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Further to SMTP-QuickSend
by Michael Steinwede-2
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Further to my just sent email ...
I've just discovered that my 4D Help folder and Plugins (containing the 4D Internetcommands.bundle) are within the same folder as my 4th Dimension application. So why aren't they working? Any help appreciated. ********************************************************************** 4D Basics hosted by 4D, Inc. http://www.4D.com/ Register for 4D Summit 2009 Today Early Bird Pricing Ends August 28th - http://www.4D.com/summit To Unsubscribe: mailto:4DBasics-off@... ********************************************************************** |
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RE: Further to SMTP-QuickSend
by Michael Placko
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Hi Michael,
I usually put my plugins next to the data file and structure, but that's just personal preference. I work on lots of databases in many versions and it helps me keep it all straight. There are several vendors that offer some kind of SMTP quick send, but the 4DIC plugin provided by 4D for free works just fine for most instances. You can download it here: ftp://ftp.4d.com/PRODUCTS/4D/Current/4D_2004/MacOS/4D_Internet_Commands.dmg Documentation is available here: http://www.4d.com/docs/ICU/ICU00002.HTM Their example on SMTP_QuickSend should get you going in 5 minutes or less. Thanks, Mike Mike Placko NowData Corporation 2970 Judicial Rd. Suite 210 Burnsville, MN 55337 952-808-0504 ext. 208 mike@... http://www.nowdata.com -----Original Message----- From: 4DBasics@... [mailto:4DBasics@...] On Behalf Of Michael Steinwede Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 7:46 AM To: 4D List Subject: Further to SMTP-QuickSend Further to my just sent email ... I've just discovered that my 4D Help folder and Plugins (containing the 4D Internetcommands.bundle) are within the same folder as my 4th Dimension application. So why aren't they working? Any help appreciated. ********************************************************************** 4D Basics hosted by 4D, Inc. http://www.4D.com/ Register for 4D Summit 2009 Today Early Bird Pricing Ends August 28th - http://www.4D.com/summit To Unsubscribe: mailto:4DBasics-off@... ********************************************************************** ********************************************************************** 4D Basics hosted by 4D, Inc. http://www.4D.com/ Register for 4D Summit 2009 Today Early Bird Pricing Ends August 28th - http://www.4D.com/summit To Unsubscribe: mailto:4DBasics-off@... ********************************************************************** |
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Re: Further to SMTP-QuickSend
by Michael Steinwede-2
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Hi Mike,
That was quick! I was about to go to bed as it's 11.35 pm Thursday here in Sydney, Australia. On 09/07/2009, at 11:12 PM, Mike Placko wrote: > I usually put my plugins next to the data file and structure, Do you mean the plugins themselves or the folder Plugins? Same with the Help File as well? > but that's > just personal preference. I work on lots of databases in many > versions and > it helps me keep it all straight. > > There are several vendors that offer some kind of SMTP quick send, > but the > 4DIC plugin provided by 4D for free works just fine for most > instances. You > can download it here: > ftp://ftp.4d.com/PRODUCTS/4D/Current/4D_2004/MacOS/4D_Internet_Commands.dmg I downloaded the above file successfully and placed this plugin in with the Data and Structure file. I restarted the database, but still nothing. I even restarted my iMac, but still nothing. > > Documentation is available here: http://www.4d.com/docs/ICU/ICU00002.HTM > > Their example on SMTP_QuickSend should get you going in 5 minutes or > less. Yes, I know. The thing is, it used to work before installing the upgrade to 2004.8. I'm going to bed now, but I will check my email in the morning. Again, thanks for your response. Warm regards, Michael ********************************************************************** 4D Basics hosted by 4D, Inc. http://www.4D.com/ Register for 4D Summit 2009 Today Early Bird Pricing Ends August 28th - http://www.4D.com/summit To Unsubscribe: mailto:4DBasics-off@... ********************************************************************** |
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RE: Further to SMTP-QuickSend
by Michael Placko
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Hi Michael,
Yes, the folder Plugins next to the structure file. I don't use the help much, so I'm not sure there, but my guess is it would be the same. Thanks, Mike Mike Placko NowData Corporation 2970 Judicial Rd. Suite 210 Burnsville, MN 55337 952-808-0504 ext. 208 mike@... http://www.nowdata.com -----Original Message----- From: 4DBasics@... [mailto:4DBasics@...] On Behalf Of Michael Steinwede Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 8:42 AM To: 4D Basics List Subject: Re: Further to SMTP-QuickSend Hi Mike, That was quick! I was about to go to bed as it's 11.35 pm Thursday here in Sydney, Australia. On 09/07/2009, at 11:12 PM, Mike Placko wrote: > I usually put my plugins next to the data file and structure, Do you mean the plugins themselves or the folder Plugins? Same with the Help File as well? > but that's > just personal preference. I work on lots of databases in many > versions and > it helps me keep it all straight. > > There are several vendors that offer some kind of SMTP quick send, > but the > 4DIC plugin provided by 4D for free works just fine for most > instances. You > can download it here: > I downloaded the above file successfully and placed this plugin in with the Data and Structure file. I restarted the database, but still nothing. I even restarted my iMac, but still nothing. > > Documentation is available here: http://www.4d.com/docs/ICU/ICU00002.HTM > > Their example on SMTP_QuickSend should get you going in 5 minutes or > less. Yes, I know. The thing is, it used to work before installing the upgrade to 2004.8. I'm going to bed now, but I will check my email in the morning. Again, thanks for your response. Warm regards, Michael ********************************************************************** 4D Basics hosted by 4D, Inc. http://www.4D.com/ Register for 4D Summit 2009 Today Early Bird Pricing Ends August 28th - http://www.4D.com/summit To Unsubscribe: mailto:4DBasics-off@... ********************************************************************** ********************************************************************** 4D Basics hosted by 4D, Inc. http://www.4D.com/ Register for 4D Summit 2009 Today Early Bird Pricing Ends August 28th - http://www.4D.com/summit To Unsubscribe: mailto:4DBasics-off@... ********************************************************************** |
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Re: Further to SMTP-QuickSend
by Michael Steinwede-2
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Hi MIke,
On 10/07/2009, at 12:02 AM, Mike Placko wrote: > Yes, the folder Plugins next to the structure file. I don't use the > help > much, so I'm not sure there, but my guess is it would be the same. I moved my Plug_ins folder from the 4D applications folder to my Data and Structure file of my Database (Does that mean I should do this to my other DataBase as well? I have two independent Database for tow totally different purposes.) When I ran it this time, I get this error message: "License or privilege error (NL) 4D Internet Commands (NL) The plug-in method cannot be executed. " Any thoughts what I should do now? Later on today, I going to retrieve 4D 2004.7 from my back up and see if the problem disappears. I'll let you know. Warm regards, Michael ********************************************************************** 4D Basics hosted by 4D, Inc. http://www.4D.com/ Register for 4D Summit 2009 Today Early Bird Pricing Ends August 28th - http://www.4D.com/summit To Unsubscribe: mailto:4DBasics-off@... ********************************************************************** |
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RE: Further to SMTP-QuickSend
by Michael Placko
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Hi Michael,
I would make separate copies of the plugins folder for each database. The error is interesting, almost as though something is locked. 4DIC is free the last time I checked, so maybe you having something going on with your users and groups where you need to allow access? Seems pretty strange. Thanks, Mike Mike Placko NowData Corporation 2970 Judicial Rd. Suite 210 Burnsville, MN 55337 952-808-0504 ext. 208 mike@... http://www.nowdata.com -----Original Message----- From: 4DBasics@... [mailto:4DBasics@...] On Behalf Of Michael Steinwede Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 4:20 PM To: 4D Basics List Subject: Re: Further to SMTP-QuickSend Hi MIke, On 10/07/2009, at 12:02 AM, Mike Placko wrote: > Yes, the folder Plugins next to the structure file. I don't use the > help > much, so I'm not sure there, but my guess is it would be the same. I moved my Plug_ins folder from the 4D applications folder to my Data and Structure file of my Database (Does that mean I should do this to my other DataBase as well? I have two independent Database for tow totally different purposes.) When I ran it this time, I get this error message: "License or privilege error (NL) 4D Internet Commands (NL) The plug-in method cannot be executed. " Any thoughts what I should do now? Later on today, I going to retrieve 4D 2004.7 from my back up and see if the problem disappears. I'll let you know. Warm regards, Michael ********************************************************************** 4D Basics hosted by 4D, Inc. http://www.4D.com/ Register for 4D Summit 2009 Today Early Bird Pricing Ends August 28th - http://www.4D.com/summit To Unsubscribe: mailto:4DBasics-off@... ********************************************************************** ********************************************************************** 4D Basics hosted by 4D, Inc. http://www.4D.com/ Register for 4D Summit 2009 Today Early Bird Pricing Ends August 28th - http://www.4D.com/summit To Unsubscribe: mailto:4DBasics-off@... ********************************************************************** |
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Re: Further to SMTP-QuickSend
by Mehboob Alam
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> I moved my Plug_ins folder from the 4D applications folder It's "Plugins".. exactly.. "plugins" also works.. no other variants.. I see from your message that you may have called it "Plug_ins".. Beyond that, 4D is sensitive to the version of the plugins, so make sure you are using everything from the same version. I.e. 4Dv2004.8 requires 4DICv2004.8 - easiest way to confirm this is simply download everything from the FTP site and install a new set. sincerely, mehboob alam Electricity is actually made up of extremely tiny particles called electrons, that you cannot see with the naked eye unless you have been drinking. - Dave Barry ----- Original Message ---- From: Mike Placko <mike@...> To: 4D Basics List <4DBasics@...> Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2009 6:02:30 PM Subject: RE: Further to SMTP-QuickSend Hi Michael, I would make separate copies of the plugins folder for each database. The error is interesting, almost as though something is locked. 4DIC is free the last time I checked, so maybe you having something going on with your users and groups where you need to allow access? Seems pretty strange. Thanks, Mike Mike Placko NowData Corporation 2970 Judicial Rd. Suite 210 Burnsville, MN 55337 952-808-0504 ext. 208 mike@... http://www.nowdata.com -----Original Message----- From: 4DBasics@... [mailto:4DBasics@...] On Behalf Of Michael Steinwede Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 4:20 PM To: 4D Basics List Subject: Re: Further to SMTP-QuickSend Hi MIke, On 10/07/2009, at 12:02 AM, Mike Placko wrote: > Yes, the folder Plugins next to the structure file. I don't use the > help > much, so I'm not sure there, but my guess is it would be the same. I moved my Plug_ins folder from the 4D applications folder to my Data and Structure file of my Database (Does that mean I should do this to my other DataBase as well? I have two independent Database for tow totally different purposes.) When I ran it this time, I get this error message: "License or privilege error (NL) 4D Internet Commands (NL) The plug-in method cannot be executed. " Any thoughts what I should do now? Later on today, I going to retrieve 4D 2004.7 from my back up and see if the problem disappears. I'll let you know. Warm regards, Michael ********************************************************************** 4D Basics hosted by 4D, Inc. http://www.4D.com/ Register for 4D Summit 2009 Today Early Bird Pricing Ends August 28th - http://www.4D.com/summit To Unsubscribe: mailto:4DBasics-off@... ********************************************************************** |
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Re: Further to SMTP-QuickSend
by Michael Steinwede-2
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Hi Mike and Mehboob,
On 10/07/2009, at 8:02 AM, Mike Placko wrote: > I would make separate copies of the plugins folder for each database. I did that, but still no joy. > > The error is interesting, almost as though something is locked. > 4DIC is > free the last time I checked, so maybe you having something going on > with > your users and groups where you need to allow access? Seems pretty > strange. I've checked the application file (using command+I) to ensure the Info file has the 4D Interne have been added and ticked and I've even made all groups have read and write access. But still no joy. SMTP_QuickSend is seen as a variable by 4D. I'm baffled. All I did was upgrade from 2004.7 to 2004.8 and then my problems arose. Even getting the 2004.7 from my back up disc and using it no longer works. On 10/07/2009, at 8:46 AM, Mehboob Alam wrote: > It's "Plugins".. exactly.. "plugins" also works.. no other variants.. > I see from your message that you may have called it "Plug_ins".. I used Plug-ins because that's how the error message put it. Interestingly, when you look up information on 4th Dimension.app, it also says "Plug-ins"! But the folder I've used is named - "Plugins". > > > Beyond that, 4D is sensitive to the version of the plugins, so make > sure you are using everything from the same version. > > I.e. 4Dv2004.8 requires 4DICv2004.8 - easiest way to confirm this is > simply download everything from the FTP site and install a new set. Excuse my ignorance, but I have no idea what to do here. How do I get to the FTP site? What is 4DICv2004.8? I really appreciate your efforts guys. Michael ********************************************************************** 4D Basics hosted by 4D, Inc. http://www.4D.com/ Register for 4D Summit 2009 Today Early Bird Pricing Ends August 28th - http://www.4D.com/summit To Unsubscribe: mailto:4DBasics-off@... ********************************************************************** |
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RE: Further to SMTP-QuickSend
by Michael Placko
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Hi Michael,
That link I sent takes you there, ftp://ftp.4d.com/PRODUCTS/4D/Current/4D_2004/MacOS/ This is the folder with the "current" release, which would be 2004.8 Thanks, Mike Mike Placko NowData Corporation 2970 Judicial Rd. Suite 210 Burnsville, MN 55337 952-808-0504 ext. 208 mike@... http://www.nowdata.com -----Original Message----- From: 4DBasics@... [mailto:4DBasics@...] On Behalf Of Michael Steinwede Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 8:35 AM To: 4D Basics List Subject: Re: Further to SMTP-QuickSend Hi Mike and Mehboob, On 10/07/2009, at 8:02 AM, Mike Placko wrote: > I would make separate copies of the plugins folder for each database. I did that, but still no joy. > > The error is interesting, almost as though something is locked. > 4DIC is > free the last time I checked, so maybe you having something going on > with > your users and groups where you need to allow access? Seems pretty > strange. I've checked the application file (using command+I) to ensure the Info file has the 4D Interne have been added and ticked and I've even made all groups have read and write access. But still no joy. SMTP_QuickSend is seen as a variable by 4D. I'm baffled. All I did was upgrade from 2004.7 to 2004.8 and then my problems arose. Even getting the 2004.7 from my back up disc and using it no longer works. On 10/07/2009, at 8:46 AM, Mehboob Alam wrote: > It's "Plugins".. exactly.. "plugins" also works.. no other variants.. > I see from your message that you may have called it "Plug_ins".. I used Plug-ins because that's how the error message put it. Interestingly, when you look up information on 4th Dimension.app, it also says "Plug-ins"! But the folder I've used is named - "Plugins". > > > Beyond that, 4D is sensitive to the version of the plugins, so make > sure you are using everything from the same version. > > I.e. 4Dv2004.8 requires 4DICv2004.8 - easiest way to confirm this is > simply download everything from the FTP site and install a new set. Excuse my ignorance, but I have no idea what to do here. How do I get to the FTP site? What is 4DICv2004.8? I really appreciate your efforts guys. Michael ********************************************************************** 4D Basics hosted by 4D, Inc. http://www.4D.com/ Register for 4D Summit 2009 Today Early Bird Pricing Ends August 28th - http://www.4D.com/summit To Unsubscribe: mailto:4DBasics-off@... ********************************************************************** ********************************************************************** 4D Basics hosted by 4D, Inc. http://www.4D.com/ Register for 4D Summit 2009 Today Early Bird Pricing Ends August 28th - http://www.4D.com/summit To Unsubscribe: mailto:4DBasics-off@... ********************************************************************** |
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Re: Further to SMTP-QuickSend
by Michael Steinwede-2
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Hi Mike,
On 11/07/2009, at 12:02 AM, Mike Placko wrote: > That link I sent takes you there, > ftp://ftp.4d.com/PRODUCTS/4D/Current/4D_2004/MacOS/ > > This is the folder with the "current" release, which would be 2004.8 I downloaded this file and placed its contents in (1) the Plugins folder next to 4th Dimensions.app in the applications folder and (2) in my database folder where the .4DB, .4DD, .4DL, .4DR and .4RSR files are kept. Again, no success with the the SMTP_QuickSend command. I then got up the "Get Info" window for the 4th Dimension application and there is an options called "Plug-ins". When I click on the "+" button, a window labelled Add '4th Dimesnion.app' Plug-ins appears with the option to choose the plugin. The only problem is that it takes me to a folder labelled "English lproj" containing two files which have nothing to do with the 4D InternetCommands.Budnle. Where do I go from here? Michael. ********************************************************************** 4D Basics hosted by 4D, Inc. http://www.4D.com/ Register for 4D Summit 2009 Today Early Bird Pricing Ends August 28th - http://www.4D.com/summit To Unsubscribe: mailto:4DBasics-off@... ********************************************************************** |
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RE: Further to SMTP-QuickSend
by Michael Placko
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Hi Michael,
Did you try re-tokenizing the calls to the plugin? I'm sure you've typed them a bunch, but it's a potential gotcha. If all else fails, I'd contact 4D tech support. It sure sounds like everything is in the right place. Thanks, Mike Mike Placko NowData Corporation 2970 Judicial Rd. Suite 210 Burnsville, MN 55337 952-808-0504 ext. 208 mike@... http://www.nowdata.com -----Original Message----- From: 4DBasics@... [mailto:4DBasics@...] On Behalf Of Michael Steinwede Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 6:24 PM To: 4D Basics List Subject: Re: Further to SMTP-QuickSend Hi Mike, On 11/07/2009, at 12:02 AM, Mike Placko wrote: > That link I sent takes you there, > ftp://ftp.4d.com/PRODUCTS/4D/Current/4D_2004/MacOS/ > > This is the folder with the "current" release, which would be 2004.8 I downloaded this file and placed its contents in (1) the Plugins folder next to 4th Dimensions.app in the applications folder and (2) in my database folder where the .4DB, .4DD, .4DL, .4DR and .4RSR files are kept. Again, no success with the the SMTP_QuickSend command. I then got up the "Get Info" window for the 4th Dimension application and there is an options called "Plug-ins". When I click on the "+" button, a window labelled Add '4th Dimesnion.app' Plug-ins appears with the option to choose the plugin. The only problem is that it takes me to a folder labelled "English lproj" containing two files which have nothing to do with the 4D InternetCommands.Budnle. Where do I go from here? Michael. ********************************************************************** 4D Basics hosted by 4D, Inc. http://www.4D.com/ Register for 4D Summit 2009 Today Early Bird Pricing Ends August 28th - http://www.4D.com/summit To Unsubscribe: mailto:4DBasics-off@... ********************************************************************** ********************************************************************** 4D Basics hosted by 4D, Inc. http://www.4D.com/ Register for 4D Summit 2009 Today Early Bird Pricing Ends August 28th - http://www.4D.com/summit To Unsubscribe: mailto:4DBasics-off@... ********************************************************************** |
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Re: Further to SMTP-QuickSend
by Michael Steinwede-2
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Hi Mike,
Thanks for your persistence in following this through with me. On 15/07/2009, at 3:29 AM, Mike Placko wrote: > Hi Michael, > > Did you try re-tokenizing the calls to the plugin? I'm sure you've > typed > them a bunch, but it's a potential gotcha. By re-tokenizing the calls to the plugin, do you mean retyping the word SMPT_QuickSend to ensure it is being picked up? If this is what you mean, I've tried that, but no joy. I'm convinced it has something to do with 2004.8 because SMPT_QuickSend was working happily with 2004.7. All I did was upgrade and bang ... now it's not working. However, even re-installing 2004.7 now doesn't like my SMPT_QuickSend command. I'm wondering if there is some preference file I should get rid of and allow 4D to create a new one. But I'm not sure which one to try without cause more troubles. > > If all else fails, I'd contact 4D tech support. It sure sounds like > everything is in the right place. > I'll try 4D tech, but I'm not hopeful. Again, thanks for all your help. Warm regards, Michael ********************************************************************** 4D Basics hosted by 4D, Inc. http://www.4D.com/ Register for 4D Summit 2009 Today Early Bird Pricing Ends August 28th - http://www.4D.com/summit To Unsubscribe: mailto:4DBasics-off@... ********************************************************************** |
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