Fusebox4.1 & Application.cfc

[Andy Mcshane]

OK, I have been hearing quite a bit about the application.cfc component but so far my tiny addled brain cannot understand what it is all about and how, if at all, it fits in with fusebox. Can anybody shed some light on the advantages/disadvantages of using application.cfc, how it would fit into the fusebox framework if at all and which parts could or could not be used, i.e. I am especially interested in the OnSessionStart and OnSessionEnd aspects of application.cfc to track user logon/logoff if possible, is there a plugin point in fusebox4.1 that mirrors this behaviour? Rather than waste anybody's time can you point me to any (easy to understand!) tutorials that may explain this to ease my very tired brain!?

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[Sean Corfield]

On 7/5/05, Andy Mcshane <andy@...> wrote:
>  Can anybody shed some light on the advantages/disadvantages of using application.cfc

It lets you run code at the start and END of an application and a session.

> how it would fit into the fusebox framework if at all

It doesn't really. Frameworks generally provide their own plugin
points and ignore Application.cfm - and they pretty much ignore
Application.cfc as well. Perhaps future versions of the frameworks
will support / integrate with Application.cfc?

For now, if you want to handle stuff at the end of an application (app
timeout or server shutdown) or end of a session (timeout), you'll need
to write methods (cffunction) inside your Application.cfc and use that
with your Fusebox app.

You'll need to read the (copious) CFMX 7 docs on migrating from
Application.cfm to Application.cfc.
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[Andy Mcshane]

Thanks, I was hoping that I would be able to still use the session part of the cfc without messing up my fusebox app.

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[jeff-10]

I certainly don't know of any reason why you couldn't.  
Application.cfc basically just sets up some event handlers for the
application, somewhat like a "Super Application.cfm".  You could have
the handlers call fuseactions in your application (though even with
an FB app, they could just run independent code).

- Jeff

On 5 Jul 2005 at 18:16, Andy Mcshane wrote:

> Thanks, I was hoping that I would be able to still use the session part of the cfc without messing up my fusebox app.
>
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[Andy Mcshane]

What I am hoping to acheive is as accurate as possible method of tracking how many people, and who, are logged in at any one time, hopefully capturing timed out sessions and being able to remove them from the logged in count. Can this be done within fusebox alone?
 
________________________________

From: jeff@... [mailto:jeff@...]
Sent: Thu 07/07/2005 15:19
To: Fusebox
Subject: Re: Fusebox4.1 & Application.cfc



I certainly don't know of any reason why you couldn't.
Application.cfc basically just sets up some event handlers for the
application, somewhat like a "Super Application.cfm".  You could have
the handlers call fuseactions in your application (though even with
an FB app, they could just run independent code).

- Jeff

On 5 Jul 2005 at 18:16, Andy Mcshane wrote:

> Thanks, I was hoping that I would be able to still use the session part of the cfc without messing up my fusebox app.
>
>



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[Brian Kotek]

Not reliably, because the only way to "know" when a session has timed out is
to use the onSessionEnd() event in Application.cfc. Just create an array of
users onApplicationStart(), add new session counters to the array
onSessionStart(), and remove them onSessionEnd().

On 7/7/05, Andy Mcshane <Andy@...> wrote:

>
> What I am hoping to acheive is as accurate as possible method of tracking
> how many people, and who, are logged in at any one time, hopefully capturing
> timed out sessions and being able to remove them from the logged in count.
> Can this be done within fusebox alone?
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: jeff@... [mailto:jeff@...]
> Sent: Thu 07/07/2005 15:19
> To: Fusebox
> Subject: Re: Fusebox4.1 & Application.cfc
>
>
>
> I certainly don't know of any reason why you couldn't.
> Application.cfc basically just sets up some event handlers for the
> application, somewhat like a "Super Application.cfm". You could have
> the handlers call fuseactions in your application (though even with
> an FB app, they could just run independent code).
>
> - Jeff
>
> On 5 Jul 2005 at 18:16, Andy Mcshane wrote:
>
> > Thanks, I was hoping that I would be able to still use the session part
> of the cfc without messing up my fusebox app.
> >
> >
>
>
>
>

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[Andy Mcshane]

Does application.cfc replace my application.cfm in my root folder? My application.cfm currently only contains the following code;
 
<cfsilent>
<cfif right(cgi.script_name, Len("index.cfm")) NEQ "index.cfm" AND right(cgi.script_name, 3) NEQ "cfc">
 <cflocation url="index.cfm" addtoken="no">
</cfif>
</cfsilent>
 
does this need to be transferred to an application.cfc and if so is this all that I need to do to my fusebox application?

 
________________________________

From: Brian Kotek [mailto:brian428@...]
Sent: Thu 07/07/2005 15:38
To: Fusebox
Subject: Re: Fusebox4.1 & Application.cfc



Not reliably, because the only way to "know" when a session has timed out is
to use the onSessionEnd() event in Application.cfc. Just create an array of
users onApplicationStart(), add new session counters to the array
onSessionStart(), and remove them onSessionEnd().

On 7/7/05, Andy Mcshane <Andy@...> wrote:

>
> What I am hoping to acheive is as accurate as possible method of tracking
> how many people, and who, are logged in at any one time, hopefully capturing
> timed out sessions and being able to remove them from the logged in count.
> Can this be done within fusebox alone?
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: jeff@... [mailto:jeff@...]
> Sent: Thu 07/07/2005 15:19
> To: Fusebox
> Subject: Re: Fusebox4.1 & Application.cfc
>
>
>
> I certainly don't know of any reason why you couldn't.
> Application.cfc basically just sets up some event handlers for the
> application, somewhat like a "Super Application.cfm". You could have
> the handlers call fuseactions in your application (though even with
> an FB app, they could just run independent code).
>
> - Jeff
>
> On 5 Jul 2005 at 18:16, Andy Mcshane wrote:
>
> > Thanks, I was hoping that I would be able to still use the session part
> of the cfc without messing up my fusebox app.
> >
> >
>
>
>
>

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[Simeon Bateman]

Yes your Application.cfc will replace your app.cfm file.  That code
above will need to go into your onrequestStart() method of your
Application.cfc.  That will allow it to fire at the beginning of the
request.

Ray Camden posted and example cfc here
http://ray.camdenfamily.com/downloads/app.pdf  I use something very
similair, I just dont actually include the request method.  I prefer
to let that happen naturally.

Good Luck,

sim

On 7/7/05, Andy Mcshane <Andy@...> wrote:

> Does application.cfc replace my application.cfm in my root folder? My application.cfm currently only contains the following code;
>
> <cfsilent>
> <cfif right(cgi.script_name, Len("index.cfm")) NEQ "index.cfm" AND right(cgi.script_name, 3) NEQ "cfc">
>  <cflocation url="index.cfm" addtoken="no">
> </cfif>
> </cfsilent>
>
> does this need to be transferred to an application.cfc and if so is this all that I need to do to my fusebox application?
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Brian Kotek [mailto:brian428@...]
> Sent: Thu 07/07/2005 15:38
> To: Fusebox
> Subject: Re: Fusebox4.1 & Application.cfc
>
>
>
> Not reliably, because the only way to "know" when a session has timed out is
> to use the onSessionEnd() event in Application.cfc. Just create an array of
> users onApplicationStart(), add new session counters to the array
> onSessionStart(), and remove them onSessionEnd().
>
> On 7/7/05, Andy Mcshane <Andy@...> wrote:
> >
> > What I am hoping to acheive is as accurate as possible method of tracking
> > how many people, and who, are logged in at any one time, hopefully capturing
> > timed out sessions and being able to remove them from the logged in count.
> > Can this be done within fusebox alone?
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: jeff@... [mailto:jeff@...]
> > Sent: Thu 07/07/2005 15:19
> > To: Fusebox
> > Subject: Re: Fusebox4.1 & Application.cfc
> >
> >
> >
> > I certainly don't know of any reason why you couldn't.
> > Application.cfc basically just sets up some event handlers for the
> > application, somewhat like a "Super Application.cfm". You could have
> > the handlers call fuseactions in your application (though even with
> > an FB app, they could just run independent code).
> >
> > - Jeff
> >
> > On 5 Jul 2005 at 18:16, Andy Mcshane wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks, I was hoping that I would be able to still use the session part
> > of the cfc without messing up my fusebox app.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>

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[jeff-10]

Just to add a detail for the observers:

If Application.cfc and Application.cfm are both present, CF uses the
CFC and ignores the CFM.

On 7 Jul 2005 at 8:14, Simeon Bateman wrote:

> Yes your Application.cfc will replace your app.cfm file.  That code
> above will need to go into your onrequestStart() method of your
> Application.cfc.  That will allow it to fire at the beginning of the
> request.
>
> Ray Camden posted and example cfc here
> http://ray.camdenfamily.com/downloads/app.pdf  I use something very
> similair, I just dont actually include the request method.  I prefer
> to let that happen naturally.
>
> Good Luck,
>
> sim
>
> On 7/7/05, Andy Mcshane <Andy@...> wrote:
> > Does application.cfc replace my application.cfm in my root folder? My application.cfm currently only contains the following code;
> >
> > <cfsilent>
> > <cfif right(cgi.script_name, Len("index.cfm")) NEQ "index.cfm" AND right(cgi.script_name, 3) NEQ "cfc">
> >  <cflocation url="index.cfm" addtoken="no">
> > </cfif>
> > </cfsilent>
> >
> > does this need to be transferred to an application.cfc and if so is this all that I need to do to my fusebox application?
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: Brian Kotek [mailto:brian428@...]
> > Sent: Thu 07/07/2005 15:38
> > To: Fusebox
> > Subject: Re: Fusebox4.1 & Application.cfc
> >
> >
> >
> > Not reliably, because the only way to "know" when a session has timed out is
> > to use the onSessionEnd() event in Application.cfc. Just create an array of
> > users onApplicationStart(), add new session counters to the array
> > onSessionStart(), and remove them onSessionEnd().
> >
> > On 7/7/05, Andy Mcshane <Andy@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > What I am hoping to acheive is as accurate as possible method of tracking
> > > how many people, and who, are logged in at any one time, hopefully capturing
> > > timed out sessions and being able to remove them from the logged in count.
> > > Can this be done within fusebox alone?
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > >
> > > From: jeff@... [mailto:jeff@...]
> > > Sent: Thu 07/07/2005 15:19
> > > To: Fusebox
> > > Subject: Re: Fusebox4.1 & Application.cfc
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I certainly don't know of any reason why you couldn't.
> > > Application.cfc basically just sets up some event handlers for the
> > > application, somewhat like a "Super Application.cfm". You could have
> > > the handlers call fuseactions in your application (though even with
> > > an FB app, they could just run independent code).
> > >
> > > - Jeff
> > >
> > > On 5 Jul 2005 at 18:16, Andy Mcshane wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thanks, I was hoping that I would be able to still use the session part
> > > of the cfc without messing up my fusebox app.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

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[Sean Corfield]

On 7/7/05, Andy Mcshane <Andy@...> wrote:
> Does application.cfc replace my application.cfm in my root folder? My application.cfm currently only contains the following code;

I would strongly encourage you to read this blog entry (and take its advice):

http://corfield.org/blog/index.cfm?do=blog.entry&entry=EC95E94F-9436-4689-80B9B7653C5ED34C

The docs explain EXACTLY how to migrate from Application.cfm to Application.cfc!
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[jeff-10]

No understatement there, Sean.  The documentation team at MM did an
outstanding job for CFMX7.  Between the docs and the samples in the
Administrator, 7 is by far the best documented release of CF to ever
hit the streets.  And that doesn't even mention all the articles that
have appeared on macromedia.com.

Take it from an author: there are many, many, hours of labor invested
in all that great information.

- Jeff

On 7 Jul 2005 at 18:28, Sean Corfield wrote:

> On 7/7/05, Andy Mcshane <Andy@...> wrote:
> > Does application.cfc replace my application.cfm in my root folder? My application.cfm currently only contains the following code;
>
> I would strongly encourage you to read this blog entry (and take its advice):
>
> http://corfield.org/blog/index.cfm?do=blog.entry&entry=EC95E94F-9436-4689-80B9B7653C5ED34C
>
> The docs explain EXACTLY how to migrate from Application.cfm to Application.cfc!
> --
> Sean A Corfield -- http://corfield.org/
> Team Fusebox -- http://fusebox.org/
> Got Gmail? -- I have 50, yes 50, invites to give away!
>
> "If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive."
> -- Margaret Atwood
>
>

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[gabriel l smallman]

If I put fusedoc info into a fuse does the runtime engine parse it out so
its not spit into the html that is churned out?

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[jason.r.cronk]

The fusedoc should be surrounded by <!---  --->  cold fusion comment tags
which won't be sent through to the browser.

Jason Cronk
jason.r.cronk@...




                                                                                                                                       
                      "gabriel l                                                                                                      
                      smallman"                To:       "Fusebox" <fusebox@...>                                        
                      <gabe@...        cc:                                                                                    
                      m>                       Subject:  Silly question                                                                
                                                                                                                                       
                      07/08/2005 10:42                                                                                                
                      AM                                                                                                              
                      Please respond to                                                                                                
                      fusebox                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                       




If I put fusedoc info into a fuse does the runtime engine parse it out so
its not spit into the html that is churned out?

Thanks gabe




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[gabriel l smallman]

Hey all,

Just wondering from the masses who may have done this a bunch of times what
you recommend for wire framing.

My thoughts so far,

1. I have found a couple tools that do to much. I wouldn't mind a tool but
just want a simple clickable walk through in the end to show a client

2. Im not sure I want to build it inside the fusebox architecture b/c it
does take a bit more time to-do this and im not totally sure it would end up
being re-usable.

What have you all tried? What works for you?

Many thanks

gabe


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[Damien McKenna-4]

> Just wondering from the masses who may have done this a bunch
> of times what you recommend for wire framing.

http://www.fusebuilder.net/
Next question? :)

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[jason.r.cronk]

For just wireframming this tool I think is great

http://sourceforge.net/projects/wireframetool/


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[Andy Mcshane]

Hi guy's me again! Finally got around to taking a look at converting my application.cfm to application.cfc using Ray Camdens example. I thought I had this working, it looks so simple, but for the life of me I cannot get this to work. Below is my application.cfc

<cfcomponent output="false">
        <cfset this.name = "MyApplicationName">
        <cfset this.applicationTimeout = createTimeSpan(0,2,0,0)>
        <cfset this.clientManagement = true>
        <cfset this.clientStorage = "MyClientStorage">
        <cfset this.loginStorage = "session">
        <cfset this.sessionManagement = true>
        <cfset this.sessionTimeout = createTimeSpan(0,1,0,0)>
        <cfset this.setClientCookies = true>
        <cfset this.setDomainCookies = false>
        <cfset this.scriptProtect = true>
       
        <cffunction name="onApplicationStart" returnType="boolean" output="false">
                <cfreturn true>
        </cffunction>
       
        <cffunction name="onApplicationEnd" returnType="void" output="false">
                <cfargument name="applicationScope" required="true">
        </cffunction>
       
        <cffunction name="onRequestStart" returnType="boolean" output="false">
                <cfargument name="thePage" type="string" required="true">
                <cfif right(cgi.script_name, Len("index.cfm")) NEQ "index.cfm" AND right(cgi.script_name, 3) NEQ "cfc">
                        <cflocation url="index.cfm" addtoken="no">
                </cfif>
                <cfreturn true>
        </cffunction>
       
        <cffunction name="onRequest" returnType="void">
                <cfargument name="thePage" type="string" required="true">
                <cfinclude template="../#arguments.thePage#">
        </cffunction>
       
        <cffunction name="onRequestEnd" returnType="void" output="false">
                <cfargument name="thePage" type="string" required="true">
        </cffunction>
       
        <cffunction name="onError" returnType="void" output="true">
                <cfargument name="exception" required="true">
                <cfargument name="eventname" type="string" required="true">
        </cffunction>
       
        <cffunction name="onSessionStart" returnType="void" output="false">

        </cffunction>
       
        <cffunction name="onSessionEnd" returnType="void" output="false">
                <cfargument name="sessionScope" type="struct" required="true">
                <cfargument name="appScope" type="struct" required="false">

        </cffunction>
</cfcomponent>

That is it, as simple as that. I restarted my coldfusion server and the first time I ran it there was no page so in the 'OnRequest' I had to prepend '../' to #arguments.thepage# (I still don't know why?) and then I had my login page appear. Just to make sure I restarted my server again and now I do not get any page at, not even an error! In my debug code I see the trace of all pages to be included but nothing is displayed, what have I screwed up,anyone?

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[Sean Corfield]

On 9/22/05, Andy Mcshane <andy@...> wrote:
>         <cffunction name="onRequestStart" returnType="boolean" output="false">
>                 <cfargument name="thePage" type="string" required="true">
>                 <cfif right(cgi.script_name, Len("index.cfm")) NEQ "index.cfm" AND right(cgi.script_name, 3) NEQ "cfc">

You could (should) use arguments.thePage instead of cgi.script_name
here really (that's why you are passed it!).

>         <cffunction name="onRequest" returnType="void">
>                 <cfargument name="thePage" type="string" required="true">
>                 <cfinclude template="../#arguments.thePage#">

Using <cfinclude template="#arguments.thePage#" /> should work fine
(and it does for me). However, you could simply remove the entire
onRequest() method and it would also work.
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[Mark Kecko]

Fusedoc Generator for Homesite
Test Harness Generator for Homesite

Can anyone tell me if these tools will work with Dreamweaver 8?  We
don't use HomeSite.

Has anyone else had success with these tools?

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[Sean Corfield]

On 4/20/06, Mark Kecko <mark@...> wrote:
> Fusedoc Generator for Homesite
> Test Harness Generator for Homesite
>
> Can anyone tell me if these tools will work with Dreamweaver 8?  We
> don't use HomeSite.

No. HomeSite uses VTML for extensions, Dreamweaver uses JavaScript.
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