Fw: kde4.2 - my feedback

[Mo Ali]

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From: Hans-J. Ullrich <hans.ullrich@...>
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Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 6:37:28 AM
Subject: kde4.2 - my feedback

Dear developers,

I just tested kde4.2, using debian-live cd. This is my first feedback with my
very, very personal impressions.

Tested on a Acer Aspire 9300 WLMI, dual-cpu with 2x1,8GHZ, 2GB RAM, Nvidia
Graphics card with 512MB (7300Go).

Starting:

First, I liked the new splashscreen. Looks very fine. After the first icon
appeared, nothing seem to happen (about 30 - 45 seconds), then suddenly it
went on, and kde started. I saw no wizard, for the first configuration, but
this might be normal, as it is a live cd.


Settings:

Of course the first thing, I wanted to change, were the personal settings.
Keyboard and language are the most important thing. As German (my native
language) was not available, I could not set it, but this was normal. It was
just a live-cd.

Setting for my keyboard was fine (in my case it is Acer Laptop).


Critics

Look and Feel:
First I took a look at the launcher. At the first glance it seemed good
structured. When working with the launcher, I was happy, to see, that at
every start of the launcher, you now always begin with the starting points of
the menu, and no more with that point, you have ended at the last time. Nice!

Clicking on a menu like "graphics" let me see and choose the application, but,
when hovering back to the left, I expected, to get automatically back to the
menu choices (graphics, multtimedia and so on), but nothing happend. I have
to click at the left on the "back" arrow to get back.

Hovering over the tab-icons did me neither bring back, too, nor back top the
starting points.

This behaviour is a pain in the ass.

Please let me explain out of my view, why:

At KDE3.X it is that way: When I am looking for an application, and I do not
exactly know, where I find it (for example a graphics application might
either be in "Graphics" or "Multimedia"), but I know its name, I can hover
over the menues, and as the submenus appear, I just can see and find my
required application very fast. With KDE4 this is no more possible, I have to
click into every menu, click back, click into, click back, click into... A
paine in the ass, really (sorry for that)

I wish for me an option, to open submenus by hovering over the menus. This is
really missing! I saw, you can activate and deactivate this for the tab-icons
in the applauncher settings, but I found nothing for the menues itself.


Taskbar
Another point, I am not fond of is the taskbar. Not the taskbar itself, but I
dislike the very small areas for the virtual desktops. As I am very often
switching among the desktops, IMO the buttons should be much bigger. It was
o.k., as it was in KDE3.


Logout:
Logging out did not work. Although I configured it in that way, to show all
options and pressing "Logout"-button, to shutdown the machine, this did not
work. Either the machine could be shut down (KDE4 always restartet), nor I
could choose the option "shut down" in the logout window. This might be a
bug!


General:
I like the new optical style. It looks very modern and KDE4 seem to run faster
on my machine than KDE3. Applications I use (i.e. kmail) are fine, I found no
problems. In comparison to KDE3 (and I am using KDE since version 1.x), IMO
KDE4 has got marked lesser usability than KDE3! KDE3 is more usable to
unexperienced people than KDE4. Changing the points, I described above, might
improve the system significantly.

My description and critics are my very personal view and may be not important
for the folks at all, so please don't anger with me, but I hope it will help,
to improve the system at all.

I know, this is a lot of work! Thanks for this!!!!

Best regards

Hans
 
 



 
 
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[Tomaz Canabrava]

Well, some of those points are actually true but easily
workaroundable. (this word exists?),
for the launcher, you can try another approach, it calls Lancelot, is
a menu with a `no-click` philosophy.
the size of the virtual desktops applet is configurable, depending on
the size of your taskbar ( or if it`s on your desktop, plasma will let
you redimension it normally. )

Tomaz

On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Mo Ali <dodi666@...> wrote:

>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Forwarded Message ----
> From: Hans-J. Ullrich <hans.ullrich@...>
> To: kde-quality@...
> Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 6:37:28 AM
> Subject: kde4.2 - my feedback
>
> Dear developers,
>
> I just tested kde4.2, using debian-live cd. This is my first feedback with my
> very, very personal impressions.
>
> Tested on a Acer Aspire 9300 WLMI, dual-cpu with 2x1,8GHZ, 2GB RAM, Nvidia
> Graphics card with 512MB (7300Go).
>
> Starting:
>
> First, I liked the new splashscreen. Looks very fine. After the first icon
> appeared, nothing seem to happen (about 30 - 45 seconds), then suddenly it
> went on, and kde started. I saw no wizard, for the first configuration, but
> this might be normal, as it is a live cd.
>
>
> Settings:
>
> Of course the first thing, I wanted to change, were the personal settings.
> Keyboard and language are the most important thing. As German (my native
> language) was not available, I could not set it, but this was normal. It was
> just a live-cd.
>
> Setting for my keyboard was fine (in my case it is Acer Laptop).
>
>
> Critics
>
> Look and Feel:
> First I took a look at the launcher. At the first glance it seemed good
> structured. When working with the launcher, I was happy, to see, that at
> every start of the launcher, you now always begin with the starting points of
> the menu, and no more with that point, you have ended at the last time. Nice!
>
> Clicking on a menu like "graphics" let me see and choose the application, but,
> when hovering back to the left, I expected, to get automatically back to the
> menu choices (graphics, multtimedia and so on), but nothing happend. I have
> to click at the left on the "back" arrow to get back.
>
> Hovering over the tab-icons did me neither bring back, too, nor back top the
> starting points.
>
> This behaviour is a pain in the ass.
>
> Please let me explain out of my view, why:
>
> At KDE3.X it is that way: When I am looking for an application, and I do not
> exactly know, where I find it (for example a graphics application might
> either be in "Graphics" or "Multimedia"), but I know its name, I can hover
> over the menues, and as the submenus appear, I just can see and find my
> required application very fast. With KDE4 this is no more possible, I have to
> click into every menu, click back, click into, click back, click into... A
> paine in the ass, really (sorry for that)
>
> I wish for me an option, to open submenus by hovering over the menus. This is
> really missing! I saw, you can activate and deactivate this for the tab-icons
> in the applauncher settings, but I found nothing for the menues itself.
>
>
> Taskbar
> Another point, I am not fond of is the taskbar. Not the taskbar itself, but I
> dislike the very small areas for the virtual desktops. As I am very often
> switching among the desktops, IMO the buttons should be much bigger. It was
> o.k., as it was in KDE3.
>
>
> Logout:
> Logging out did not work. Although I configured it in that way, to show all
> options and pressing "Logout"-button, to shutdown the machine, this did not
> work. Either the machine could be shut down (KDE4 always restartet), nor I
> could choose the option "shut down" in the logout window. This might be a
> bug!
>
>
> General:
> I like the new optical style. It looks very modern and KDE4 seem to run faster
> on my machine than KDE3. Applications I use (i.e. kmail) are fine, I found no
> problems. In comparison to KDE3 (and I am using KDE since version 1.x), IMO
> KDE4 has got marked lesser usability than KDE3! KDE3 is more usable to
> unexperienced people than KDE4. Changing the points, I described above, might
> improve the system significantly.
>
> My description and critics are my very personal view and may be not important
> for the folks at all, so please don't anger with me, but I hope it will help,
> to improve the system at all.
>
> I know, this is a lot of work! Thanks for this!!!!
>
> Best regards
>
> Hans
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Tomaz Canabrava wrote:
> Well, some of those points are actually true but easily
> workaroundable. (this word exists?)
:-)  but...

are easily worked around
have simple work arounds

workaround is a common term but not very well behaved.
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