Fwd: [FOSDEM] News : Call For Developer Rooms

[Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf]

The FOSDEM call for developer rooms is out. As the conditions for  
requests state there's a preference for requests with a general  
topic, e.g. from projects with similar goals/domains. So I guess a  
joint application of GNUstep, Étoilé and OpenGroupware.org (Helge, is  
this o.k.?) like last year would be the best. Maybe we can find some  
other projects with some relation to GNUstep to join in. Any ideas?  
Window Maker comes to my mind here. Is somebody in contact with those  
guys? Who else could join in?

I think this is also an occasion to talk about reasons why  
*especially we* would need a dev-room (For instance: "we deliver  
cross platform developer tools so a developers conference is the best  
place to make those known"). I will submit the best reasons with our  
application for the room.

Please discuss.

When we reach some agrement I am ready to submit our proposal. That  
has to happen before 2009-11-22.


Thanks,

        Lars

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> A *devroom* is a room in which projects can organize their own  
> schedule made
> of presentations, brainstorming and hacking sessions. Our goal is to
> stimulate developer collaboration and cross-pollination between  
> projects, and
> as such we strongly favor projects with similar goals and domains  
> to host a
> devroom together.
>
> *Distribution projects:* As every year we only have a limited  
> number of
> rooms, yet every year more and more individual distributions request a
> Developer Room at FOSDEM. We do not want to have to choose between  
> them, but
> instead push our mission of a collaboration platform and cross-
> pollination
> even further. We will host mixed distribution rooms where talks and  
> sessions
> will be organized *by topic*. Contributors from all distributions  
> are welcome
> to join in order to participate, attend, propose topics and  
> sessions. To do
> so, please subscribe to the distro mailinglist [1].
>
> .... What we offer:
>
>   * a room on Saturday and/or Sunday,
>   * a video projector (with VGA cable)
>   * power (C/E plugs)
>   * wired (RJ-45) network with Internet access at the speaker's desk,
>   * best-effort shared wireless Internet access (a and b),
>   * publication of the schedule on the FOSDEM website, including  
> speaker bios
>     and talk abstracts.
>
> .... Conditions for requests:
>
>   * preference for requests with a general topic, eg. from projects  
> with
>     similar goals/domains,
>   * be involved in Free or Opensource Software (the projects  
> produce and
>     release software under an opensource license or otherwise  
> contributes to
>     opensource activities and communities),
>   * send us a devroom request before 2009-11-22 as described below,
>
> Distribution talks are organized collectively on the distro  
> mailinglist [2].
> Others can request a devroom by submitting the form below. For further
> questions, contact devrooms@... [3].
> The number of available rooms is limited so the FOSDEM organization  
> will
> select the proposals that can get a devroom.
>
> *Key Dates:*
> 2009-11-22: Deadline for devroom requests
> 2009-11-29: Acceptance notification of devrooms
> 2010-02-06 to 2009-02-07: FOSDEM 2010
>
> -------- DEVROOM REQUEST FORM
> ------------------------------------------------
>
> For more information, or to fill in the form check out:
> http://www.fosdem.org/2010/call-developer-rooms
>
> [1] http://lists.fosdem.org/mailman/listinfo/dist2010
> [2] http://lists.fosdem.org/mailman/listinfo/dist2010
> [3] mailto:devrooms@...
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[Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf]

and only 25 days until the deadline for dev-room applications:  
2009-11-22. As I already mentioned, the FOSDEM greatly favors joint  
applications of cooperating projects. Here's a quote from their  
website: "Our goal is to stimulate developer collaboration and cross-
pollination between projects, and as such we strongly favor projects  
with similar goals and domains to host a devroom together."

So we were right on track with our joint application of GNUstep,  
Étoilé and OpenGroupware.org last year. But currently we have just  
two projects which committed to come GNUstep and Étoilé. Helge (of  
OpenGroupware.org) is currently not sure if he will make it (and it  
seems to depend a little bit on the fact if the scalable OGo folks  
will be there).

So to increase our chances to get a dev-room I am asking: does  
somebody know other projects we could invite for a collaboration? Is  
somebody in contact with those people?


Thanks,

        Lars

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[Stef Bidi]

On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 5:11 PM, Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf <lars.sonchocky-helldorf@...> wrote:

So to increase our chances to get a dev-room I am asking: does somebody know other projects we could invite for a collaboration? Is somebody in contact with those people?

I guess if Riccardo is going that means GAP will probably be represented as well.

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On 28 Okt., 23:11, Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf <lars.sonchocky-
helld...@...> wrote:

> and only 25 days until the deadline for dev-room applications:  
> 2009-11-22. As I already mentioned, the FOSDEM greatly favors joint  
> applications of cooperating projects. Here's a quote from their  
> website: "Our goal is to stimulate developer collaboration and cross-
> pollination between projects, and as such we strongly favor projects  
> with similar goals and domains to host a devroom together."
>
> So we were right on track with our joint application of GNUstep,  
> Étoilé and OpenGroupware.org last year. But currently we have just  
> two projects which committed to come GNUstep and Étoilé. Helge (of  
> OpenGroupware.org) is currently not sure if he will make it (and it  
> seems to depend a little bit on the fact if the scalable OGo folks  
> will be there).
>
> So to increase our chances to get a dev-room I am asking: does  
> somebody know other projects we could invite for a collaboration? Is  
> somebody in contact with those people?
>
> Thanks,
>
>         Lars

If it is important that similar projects are showing that they
cooperate, please add mySTEP. And maybe Felipe from mGstep can also
come to Brussels this year.

Nikolaus
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[Riccardo Mottola-4]

Hi,

>> So to increase our chances to get a dev-room I am asking: does somebody
>> know other projects we could invite for a collaboration? Is somebody in
>> contact with those people?
>>
>>    
>
> I guess if Riccardo is going that means GAP will probably be represented as
> well.
>
>  

Indeed, I'll try my best to come to FOSDEM.

I'd like to make a speech, but I need a good topic which will interest
people. I still need to think about it, suggestions welcome.

Riccardo


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On 29 Okt., 23:26, Riccardo Mottola <mul...@...> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> >> So to increase our chances to get a dev-room I am asking: does somebody
> >> know other projects we could invite for a collaboration? Is somebody in
> >> contact with those people?
>
> > I guess if Riccardo is going that means GAP will probably be represented as
> > well.
>
> Indeed, I'll try my best to come to FOSDEM.
>
> I'd like to make a speech, but I need a good topic which will interest
> people. I still need to think about it, suggestions welcome.

@proposal: GAP: an Application Suite for GNUstep
@proposal: GAP: an Application Collection for GNUstep
@proposal: GAP: User Applications for GNUstep

Nikolaus
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[Robert J. Slover]

Or, something with a more catchy title?  Perhaps:

Filling the GAP: GNUstep Application Project Seeks New Apps and  
Maintainers

--Robert

On Oct 30, 2009, at 11:33 AM, hns@... wrote:

> On 29 Okt., 23:26, Riccardo Mottola <mul...@...> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>>>> So to increase our chances to get a dev-room I am asking: does  
>>>> somebody
>>>> know other projects we could invite for a collaboration? Is  
>>>> somebody in
>>>> contact with those people?
>>
>>> I guess if Riccardo is going that means GAP will probably be  
>>> represented as
>>> well.
>>
>> Indeed, I'll try my best to come to FOSDEM.
>>
>> I'd like to make a speech, but I need a good topic which will  
>> interest
>> people. I still need to think about it, suggestions welcome.
>
> @proposal: GAP: an Application Suite for GNUstep
> @proposal: GAP: an Application Collection for GNUstep
> @proposal: GAP: User Applications for GNUstep
>
> Nikolaus
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[Riccardo Mottola-4]

Hi,

Robert J. Slover wrote:
> Or, something with a more catchy title?  Perhaps:
>
> Filling the GAP: GNUstep Application Project Seeks New Apps and
> Maintainers
>>
>> @proposal: GAP: an Application Suite for GNUstep
>> @proposal: GAP: an Application Collection for GNUstep
>> @proposal: GAP: User Applications for GNUstep

your title ends up being similar to the one of the last year talk, where
I just did a mass-presentation of GAP Apps. I don't know if it is a good
idea to repeat such a talk?
Compared to last year, GAP gained applications but no new maintainers...

Maybe we can select just certain apps?

GAP poses also an accent on portability, several of its apps run on
Macintosh and/or on Windows. Perhaps those can be used to demonstrate
our cross-platform capabilities.

Another idea would be a talk about Theming. More end-user oriented. The
last year about theming was very technical, interesting but only for
developers. Now we have something to show the end-user: Thematic to
modify Pixmap themes. a Preference module to set them user-wide, a way
to set them per-application and that without resorting to the command line.

It could be half part of a talk, another half could be still dedicated
to more devloper topics, held perhaps by Richard himself again

Riccardo



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[David Chisnall]

On 31 Oct 2009, at 10:45, Riccardo Mottola wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Robert J. Slover wrote:
>> Or, something with a more catchy title?  Perhaps:
>>
>> Filling the GAP: GNUstep Application Project Seeks New Apps and  
>> Maintainers
>>>
>>> @proposal: GAP: an Application Suite for GNUstep
>>> @proposal: GAP: an Application Collection for GNUstep
>>> @proposal: GAP: User Applications for GNUstep
>
> your title ends up being similar to the one of the last year talk,  
> where I just did a mass-presentation of GAP Apps. I don't know if it  
> is a good idea to repeat such a talk?
> Compared to last year, GAP gained applications but no new  
> maintainers...

A few years ago I was at a conference where one of the Linux kernel  
devs did an 'adopt a driver' talk, discussing how drivers ended up  
without maintainers, how other people could take them over, what was  
involved, and why it is useful.  I think maintaining a GAP app is  
probably a bit easier than maintaining a Linux driver, so possibly  
it's worth doing a similar talk and seeing if you can get some new  
maintainers?

David

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