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From: Joe Bloggs <heliumblimp@...>
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Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 05:39:20 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Aria International Signs contract with Aeros to bring the
AEROS-40B to Thailand. What is your opinion about this airship?
Success and failure
Hi folks,
The track record for the Aeros 40B is good for a laugh if you like
airship disaster stories. One of the Trinidad pilots test flew the
very first Aeros in Shanghai. This was a smaller ship than the 40B and
the test pilot took one look at it and asked for 5000 usd in advance,
which he got. After takeoff the nintendo side stick rudder control
failed and no backup system was fitted, so he had no choice in the
offshore wind but to ditch the ship in a banana plantation. He and his
Chinese co pilot were unhurt.
Lots of listers know the history of Aeros in the US, with one ship
parked on a restaurant roof after an attempted windy landing at
Oakland.
I dont have enough time to describe everything that went went wrong
in Trinidad with the Aeros 40B. Apart from the effects of the salt air
on the electronics it was too slow to handle even light trade winds
and could not lift even one camera and operator with enough fuel to
make a sensible mission possible. That ship is still for sale by AMS
as removing it from Trinidad was part of the contract for the new
Skyship 600L.
I am surprised that any high tech camera company would go anywhere
near Aeros after they lost a Wescam in the Atlantic after one of their
drivers discovered that lack of vectored thrust to carry out a
vertical approach makes landings less safe when you dont know exactly
where your own mast is on a foggy day.
China was a joke and there is an ongoing legal case even involving an
FAA LTA examiner as expert witness that the ship could not lift the
required payload etc. It appear that ship has also been removed and
sent to Thailand although an extra 10m section has been spliced in to
add to the lift. I hope they manage to knot the control wires and
valve cables correctly or there will be another Far Eastern fiasco.
Regards
Joe.
--- On Sat, 5/23/09, Andreas Grunewald <airshipworld@...> wrote:
> From: Andreas Grunewald <airshipworld@...>
> Subject: Ario International Signs ontract with Aeros to bring the AEROS-40B to Thailand. What is your opinion about this airship? Success and failure
> To: "Airship List" <airship-list@...>, AirshipList@..., the-list@...
> Date: Saturday, May 23, 2009, 8:55 AM
> Hello,
> in a recent press release
> http://www.businesswire.com/portal/site/home/permalink/?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20090520005651&newsLang=en
> Aria officially announced that they are accquireing the
> Aeros 40
> Skydragon, from a picture it looks like it is the N820AC
> that
> registration was previously used for the Skydragon sold to
> China. I
> assume. Now the question is, what track record does the
> Skydragon have? If my memory isn't completely wrong there
> were some
> failed missions with this airship but I don't remember
> which and why. If the list could fill me in that would be
> very
> helpfull. Wasn't the Aeros 40 Skydragon also in Trinidad ?
>
> Regards
>
>
> Andreas G
>
> Editor of Airshipworld
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> Visit the Airshipworld Blog at
> http://airshipworld.blogspot.com
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>
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From: Joe Bloggs <heliumblimp@...>
To: Airship List <airship-list@...>,
AirshipList@..., the-list@...,
airshipworld@...
Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 05:39:20 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Aria International Signs contract with Aeros to bring the
AEROS-40B to Thailand. What is your opinion about this airship?
Success and failure
Hi folks,
The track record for the Aeros 40B is good for a laugh if you like
airship disaster stories. One of the Trinidad pilots test flew the
very first Aeros in Shanghai. This was a smaller ship than the 40B and
the test pilot took one look at it and asked for 5000 usd in advance,
which he got. After takeoff the nintendo side stick rudder control
failed and no backup system was fitted, so he had no choice in the
offshore wind but to ditch the ship in a banana plantation. He and his
Chinese co pilot were unhurt.
Lots of listers know the history of Aeros in the US, with one ship
parked on a restaurant roof after an attempted windy landing at
Oakland.
I dont have enough time to describe everything that went went wrong
in Trinidad with the Aeros 40B. Apart from the effects of the salt air
on the electronics it was too slow to handle even light trade winds
and could not lift even one camera and operator with enough fuel to
make a sensible mission possible. That ship is still for sale by AMS
as removing it from Trinidad was part of the contract for the new
Skyship 600L.
I am surprised that any high tech camera company would go anywhere
near Aeros after they lost a Wescam in the Atlantic after one of their
drivers discovered that lack of vectored thrust to carry out a
vertical approach makes landings less safe when you dont know exactly
where your own mast is on a foggy day.
China was a joke and there is an ongoing legal case even involving an
FAA LTA examiner as expert witness that the ship could not lift the
required payload etc. It appear that ship has also been removed and
sent to Thailand although an extra 10m section has been spliced in to
add to the lift. I hope they manage to knot the control wires and
valve cables correctly or there will be another Far Eastern fiasco.
Regards
Joe.
--- On Sat, 5/23/09, Andreas Grunewald <airshipworld@...> wrote:
> From: Andreas Grunewald <airshipworld@...>
> Subject: Ario International Signs ontract with Aeros to bring the AEROS-40B to Thailand. What is your opinion about this airship? Success and failure
> To: "Airship List" <airship-list@...>, AirshipList@..., the-list@...
> Date: Saturday, May 23, 2009, 8:55 AM
> Hello,
> in a recent press release
> http://www.businesswire.com/portal/site/home/permalink/?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20090520005651&newsLang=en
> Aria officially announced that they are accquireing the
> Aeros 40
> Skydragon, from a picture it looks like it is the N820AC
> that
> registration was previously used for the Skydragon sold to
> China. I
> assume. Now the question is, what track record does the
> Skydragon have? If my memory isn't completely wrong there
> were some
> failed missions with this airship but I don't remember
> which and why. If the list could fill me in that would be
> very
> helpfull. Wasn't the Aeros 40 Skydragon also in Trinidad ?
>
> Regards
>
>
> Andreas G
>
> Editor of Airshipworld
> --------------------------------------------------------
> Visit the Airshipworld Blog at
> http://airshipworld.blogspot.com
> --------------------------------------------------------
>
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