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by bvidinli :: Rate this Message:

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(Btw, what is list for general discussion or programming discussion? )

In fact,  language is not problem for me,
I mean, if I find a good IDE in java, C++ , php, python or other,  I
will adapt to that language .
My problem is: I could not find an easy to use IDE  (like old Delphi)
in any of languages.
I see python is a rising language,

My preference regarding language:
1- python,
2- php,
3- .......other...
4- java
5- C++

I know i have no much choice, i wrote my preference to clarify, C and
java seems very cold to me,

I tested lastly, QT creator, by far, as I see, it is the most usable
one on Linux world; But, even it is not easy as I expect..
I asked here to now Who uses What ? and to learn if I miss something ?

My experience and opinion about some IDE's in Linux world:

  Name             Language            Experience, Opinion:
1- Kdevelop         C++, etc            Even dont work in Ubuntu 9.04
2- Boa Constructor     python            Gui design complicated and
hard to understand, implement
3- Eclipse           many                Huge, complicated, slow, like
an elephant
4- Eric IDE           python             managed to run old one, but
eric4 even do not start/run in Ubuntu 9.04
5- Gambas2           Basic               Gui: even basic gui controls
do not work
6- Lazarus           FreePascal          Very similar to Delphi,
database gui vcl is not complete (or i could not find some), hangs
rarely, maybe i will try this again and again. its self gui is not
very well..
7- MonoDevelop       C#,C, etc           Even some basic operations
are not working, gui design is still not good, i am testing now again,
8- Netbeans          java, etc           a bit slow,big,like eclipse
(but better regarding speed), gui development is not so easy
9- QTCreator         C++                 only C++, fast, gui design is
good, but only QT, we need to learn QT terminology, help system is
good.. i am still trying this..


I have all these installed on my Ubuntu 9.04, I do test these tools on
almost regular intervals to see if they are improved...

any idea is welcome..


Thanks

On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 10:21 PM, Alexander
Kraev<alexander.kraev@...> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> It depends on language do you use. NetBeans is good for Java
> development. Anjuta is for C/C++ development. There is also QDevelop and
> others.
>
> Regards,
> Alexander
>
> bvidinli wrote:
>> Which IDE do you use mostly in Ubuntu.
>>
>> I mean a programming environment where you develop GUI applications
>> like old Delphi one, or Visual Studio.NET ....
>>
>> I want to develop GUI applications,
>> I use Ubuntu 9.04, I have knowledge of programming, tried a few one in
>> Ubuntu but not succeeded to get programming in a straight forward
>> way..
>>
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
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Re: Best IDE in Ubuntu, or Which IDE do you use ?

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On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 9:14 PM, bvidinli<bvidinli@...> wrote:

> My problem is: I could not find an easy to use IDE  (like old Delphi)
> in any of languages.

If you can't find one which you like, and you can adapt to multiple
languages easily, write you own. Lift the best parts of each IDE you
like and weave them together as you like them.
It's what I did for my company... mind you, there's only me working
for it, so the "eat your own dog food" approach makes you fix annoying
things quickly.

Mostly though, at client sites, I use vi as it's always going to be installed.

Other environments I use include PowerCenter from Informatica and Vis
Studio. Your mileage will vary considerably.

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Re: Fwd: Best IDE in Ubuntu, or Which IDE do you use ?

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On Sat, Jul 04, 2009 at 11:14:40PM +0300, bvidinli wrote:

> (Btw, what is list for general discussion or programming discussion? )
>
> In fact,  language is not problem for me,
> I mean, if I find a good IDE in java, C++ , php, python or other,  I
> will adapt to that language .
> My problem is: I could not find an easy to use IDE  (like old Delphi)
> in any of languages.
> I see python is a rising language,
>
> My preference regarding language:
> 1- python,
> 2- php,
> 3- .......other...
> 4- java
> 5- C++

Something look at is 'pida'. You choose your editor (emacs or vim), and it does
the ide related stuff. Probably not as high end feature-wise as eclipse and
some of the others, but reasonable. I just like using vim inside an ide. Its
also python based, so maybe you help fix some of the quirks :/

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Re: Fwd: Best IDE in Ubuntu, or Which IDE do you use ?

by zhihang wang :: Rate this Message:

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How to use vim under ide?

On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 5:41 AM, Hal Burgiss <hal@...> wrote:
On Sat, Jul 04, 2009 at 11:14:40PM +0300, bvidinli wrote:
> (Btw, what is list for general discussion or programming discussion? )
>
> In fact,  language is not problem for me,
> I mean, if I find a good IDE in java, C++ , php, python or other,  I
> will adapt to that language .
> My problem is: I could not find an easy to use IDE  (like old Delphi)
> in any of languages.
> I see python is a rising language,
>
> My preference regarding language:
> 1- python,
> 2- php,
> 3- .......other...
> 4- java
> 5- C++

Something look at is 'pida'. You choose your editor (emacs or vim), and it does
the ide related stuff. Probably not as high end feature-wise as eclipse and
some of the others, but reasonable. I just like using vim inside an ide. Its
also python based, so maybe you help fix some of the quirks :/

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Re: Best IDE in Ubuntu, or Which IDE do you use ?

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On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 4:14 PM, bvidinli <bvidinli@...> wrote:
(Btw, what is list for general discussion or programming discussion? )

In fact,  language is not problem for me,
I mean, if I find a good IDE in java, C++ , php, python or other,  I
will adapt to that language .
My problem is: I could not find an easy to use IDE  (like old Delphi)
in any of languages.
I see python is a rising language,

My preference regarding language:
1- python,
2- php,
3- .......other...
4- java
5- C++

I know i have no much choice, i wrote my preference to clarify, C and
java seems very cold to me,

I tested lastly, QT creator, by far, as I see, it is the most usable
one on Linux world; But, even it is not easy as I expect..
I asked here to now Who uses What ? and to learn if I miss something ?

My experience and opinion about some IDE's in Linux world:

  Name             Language            Experience, Opinion:
1- Kdevelop         C++, etc            Even dont work in Ubuntu 9.04
2- Boa Constructor     python            Gui design complicated and
hard to understand, implement
3- Eclipse           many                Huge, complicated, slow, like
an elephant
4- Eric IDE           python             managed to run old one, but
eric4 even do not start/run in Ubuntu 9.04
5- Gambas2           Basic               Gui: even basic gui controls
do not work
6- Lazarus           FreePascal          Very similar to Delphi,
database gui vcl is not complete (or i could not find some), hangs
rarely, maybe i will try this again and again. its self gui is not
very well..
7- MonoDevelop       C#,C, etc           Even some basic operations
are not working, gui design is still not good, i am testing now again,
8- Netbeans          java, etc           a bit slow,big,like eclipse
(but better regarding speed), gui development is not so easy
9- QTCreator         C++                 only C++, fast, gui design is
good, but only QT, we need to learn QT terminology, help system is
good.. i am still trying this..


I have all these installed on my Ubuntu 9.04, I do test these tools on
almost regular intervals to see if they are improved...

any idea is welcome..


Thanks

On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 10:21 PM, Alexander
Kraev<alexander.kraev@...> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> It depends on language do you use. NetBeans is good for Java
> development. Anjuta is for C/C++ development. There is also QDevelop and
> others.
>
> Regards,
> Alexander
>
> bvidinli wrote:
>> Which IDE do you use mostly in Ubuntu.
>>
>> I mean a programming environment where you develop GUI applications
>> like old Delphi one, or Visual Studio.NET ....
>>
>> I want to develop GUI applications,
>> I use Ubuntu 9.04, I have knowledge of programming, tried a few one in
>> Ubuntu but not succeeded to get programming in a straight forward
>> way..
>>
>>
>> Thanks.
>>

I use NB for Java and with NB6.5+, ruby, c, c++, python, html, xhtml, xml, and php are all possible.
For Python I did use Boa and Glade for front-end design. Glade is a bit kludgy, but can be workable.
I now use WingIDE for Pythone (about $300 USD). Great IDE for Python, but isn't free...
For straight 'C' I use vi... I've been doing too much of that language to require an IDE for most stuff but have used different tools to load test it.
I've used Anjuta for some coding, but don't have enough experience to really offer an opinion there.
I've also heard that the KDE desktop is inherently better for development tasks, but have only used KDE sparingly as most of my work is done on other sites.

Hope that gives you a bit more info...

Jack


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Re: Best IDE in Ubuntu, or Which IDE do you use ?

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I use codelite.

On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 6:56 AM, Verde Denim <tdldev@...> wrote:


On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 4:14 PM, bvidinli <bvidinli@...> wrote:
(Btw, what is list for general discussion or programming discussion? )

In fact,  language is not problem for me,
I mean, if I find a good IDE in java, C++ , php, python or other,  I
will adapt to that language .
My problem is: I could not find an easy to use IDE  (like old Delphi)
in any of languages.
I see python is a rising language,

My preference regarding language:
1- python,
2- php,
3- .......other...
4- java
5- C++

I know i have no much choice, i wrote my preference to clarify, C and
java seems very cold to me,

I tested lastly, QT creator, by far, as I see, it is the most usable
one on Linux world; But, even it is not easy as I expect..
I asked here to now Who uses What ? and to learn if I miss something ?

My experience and opinion about some IDE's in Linux world:

  Name             Language            Experience, Opinion:
1- Kdevelop         C++, etc            Even dont work in Ubuntu 9.04
2- Boa Constructor     python            Gui design complicated and
hard to understand, implement
3- Eclipse           many                Huge, complicated, slow, like
an elephant
4- Eric IDE           python             managed to run old one, but
eric4 even do not start/run in Ubuntu 9.04
5- Gambas2           Basic               Gui: even basic gui controls
do not work
6- Lazarus           FreePascal          Very similar to Delphi,
database gui vcl is not complete (or i could not find some), hangs
rarely, maybe i will try this again and again. its self gui is not
very well..
7- MonoDevelop       C#,C, etc           Even some basic operations
are not working, gui design is still not good, i am testing now again,
8- Netbeans          java, etc           a bit slow,big,like eclipse
(but better regarding speed), gui development is not so easy
9- QTCreator         C++                 only C++, fast, gui design is
good, but only QT, we need to learn QT terminology, help system is
good.. i am still trying this..


I have all these installed on my Ubuntu 9.04, I do test these tools on
almost regular intervals to see if they are improved...

any idea is welcome..


Thanks

On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 10:21 PM, Alexander
Kraev<alexander.kraev@...> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> It depends on language do you use. NetBeans is good for Java
> development. Anjuta is for C/C++ development. There is also QDevelop and
> others.
>
> Regards,
> Alexander
>
> bvidinli wrote:
>> Which IDE do you use mostly in Ubuntu.
>>
>> I mean a programming environment where you develop GUI applications
>> like old Delphi one, or Visual Studio.NET ....
>>
>> I want to develop GUI applications,
>> I use Ubuntu 9.04, I have knowledge of programming, tried a few one in
>> Ubuntu but not succeeded to get programming in a straight forward
>> way..
>>
>>
>> Thanks.
>>

I use NB for Java and with NB6.5+, ruby, c, c++, python, html, xhtml, xml, and php are all possible.
For Python I did use Boa and Glade for front-end design. Glade is a bit kludgy, but can be workable.
I now use WingIDE for Pythone (about $300 USD). Great IDE for Python, but isn't free...
For straight 'C' I use vi... I've been doing too much of that language to require an IDE for most stuff but have used different tools to load test it.
I've used Anjuta for some coding, but don't have enough experience to really offer an opinion there.
I've also heard that the KDE desktop is inherently better for development tasks, but have only used KDE sparingly as most of my work is done on other sites.

Hope that gives you a bit more info...

Jack


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Re: Best IDE in Ubuntu, or Which IDE do you use ?

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I also tried WingIDE, it is only a code editor.

I do not look only for a code editor. the IDE should also has gui
design capabilities...
i think IDE <> only code editor....


On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 1:56 AM, Verde Denim<tdldev@...> wrote:

>
>
> On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 4:14 PM, bvidinli <bvidinli@...> wrote:
>>
>> (Btw, what is list for general discussion or programming discussion? )
>>
>> In fact,  language is not problem for me,
>> I mean, if I find a good IDE in java, C++ , php, python or other,  I
>> will adapt to that language .
>> My problem is: I could not find an easy to use IDE  (like old Delphi)
>> in any of languages.
>> I see python is a rising language,
>>
>> My preference regarding language:
>> 1- python,
>> 2- php,
>> 3- .......other...
>> 4- java
>> 5- C++
>>
>> I know i have no much choice, i wrote my preference to clarify, C and
>> java seems very cold to me,
>>
>> I tested lastly, QT creator, by far, as I see, it is the most usable
>> one on Linux world; But, even it is not easy as I expect..
>> I asked here to now Who uses What ? and to learn if I miss something ?
>>
>> My experience and opinion about some IDE's in Linux world:
>>
>>   Name             Language            Experience, Opinion:
>> 1- Kdevelop         C++, etc            Even dont work in Ubuntu 9.04
>> 2- Boa Constructor     python            Gui design complicated and
>> hard to understand, implement
>> 3- Eclipse           many                Huge, complicated, slow, like
>> an elephant
>> 4- Eric IDE           python             managed to run old one, but
>> eric4 even do not start/run in Ubuntu 9.04
>> 5- Gambas2           Basic               Gui: even basic gui controls
>> do not work
>> 6- Lazarus           FreePascal          Very similar to Delphi,
>> database gui vcl is not complete (or i could not find some), hangs
>> rarely, maybe i will try this again and again. its self gui is not
>> very well..
>> 7- MonoDevelop       C#,C, etc           Even some basic operations
>> are not working, gui design is still not good, i am testing now again,
>> 8- Netbeans          java, etc           a bit slow,big,like eclipse
>> (but better regarding speed), gui development is not so easy
>> 9- QTCreator         C++                 only C++, fast, gui design is
>> good, but only QT, we need to learn QT terminology, help system is
>> good.. i am still trying this..
>>
>>
>> I have all these installed on my Ubuntu 9.04, I do test these tools on
>> almost regular intervals to see if they are improved...
>>
>> any idea is welcome..
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 10:21 PM, Alexander
>> Kraev<alexander.kraev@...> wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > It depends on language do you use. NetBeans is good for Java
>> > development. Anjuta is for C/C++ development. There is also QDevelop and
>> > others.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Alexander
>> >
>> > bvidinli wrote:
>> >> Which IDE do you use mostly in Ubuntu.
>> >>
>> >> I mean a programming environment where you develop GUI applications
>> >> like old Delphi one, or Visual Studio.NET ....
>> >>
>> >> I want to develop GUI applications,
>> >> I use Ubuntu 9.04, I have knowledge of programming, tried a few one in
>> >> Ubuntu but not succeeded to get programming in a straight forward
>> >> way..
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Thanks.
>> >>
>
> I use NB for Java and with NB6.5+, ruby, c, c++, python, html, xhtml, xml,
> and php are all possible.
> For Python I did use Boa and Glade for front-end design. Glade is a bit
> kludgy, but can be workable.
> I now use WingIDE for Pythone (about $300 USD). Great IDE for Python, but
> isn't free...
> For straight 'C' I use vi... I've been doing too much of that language to
> require an IDE for most stuff but have used different tools to load test it.
> I've used Anjuta for some coding, but don't have enough experience to really
> offer an opinion there.
> I've also heard that the KDE desktop is inherently better for development
> tasks, but have only used KDE sparingly as most of my work is done on other
> sites.
>
> Hope that gives you a bit more info...
>
> Jack
>
>
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Re: Fwd: Best IDE in Ubuntu, or Which IDE do you use ?

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bvidinli wrote:

Please don't top post.

> (Btw, what is list for general discussion or programming discussion? )
>
> In fact,  language is not problem for me,
> I mean, if I find a good IDE in java, C++ , php, python or other,  I
> will adapt to that language .
> My problem is: I could not find an easy to use IDE  (like old Delphi)
> in any of languages.
> I see python is a rising language,
>
> My preference regarding language:
> 1- python,
> 2- php,
> 3- .......other...
> 4- java
> 5- C++

I use Netbeans (for these + for Ruby/JRuby), and drop into gvim for any
complex editing. I use my own install of v6.7, instead of the version in
the repos; Python support is improving with each release.

> 3- Eclipse many Huge, complicated, slow, like an elephant

It's very good for Java dev, but Netbeans has caught up in most areas in
the last year or so. I no longer use it, because I do less Java dev; I
use JRuby and include any Java I might need instead.

> 8- Netbeans java, etc a bit slow,big,like eclipse
> (but better regarding speed), gui development is not so easy

Slow! It runs great on any dual core ;-) I use it a lot on a low power
laptop and, last week, on an ancient Sempron <?>; works fine. Most of
these tools bog down with less than 2Gb; taking into account the other
stuff you'll be running simultaneously.

What GUI dev are you doing? Netbeans is great for Java gui dev - as
you'd expect. I us this for JRuby gui dev via the monkybars gem; very
neat.

There's an Ubuntu bug messing with CherryPy, which is a nuisance for
python gui dev.

Haven't tried the gtk stuff with PHP, but the web server integration
makes web-site testing very simple.



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