Fwd: Git users: bring out your bugbears!

[Chris Cormack-6]

Hi Everyone

One of my colleagues from work is off to a git get together, and Is
asking if anyone has anything they really wish was different with git.
I said I would ask the koha developers as we have used git for a while
now. So any suggestions send them my way and I will pass them on to
Sam.

Chris

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Hi all,

For some strange reason the Git project is again flying me over to Silly
Valley for the Google Summer of Code Mentor Summit.  And right after
that I've got a thrilling 3 days of GitTogether™.  This is a meeting
with many core git developers to discuss direction for git - see
http://git.or.cz/gitwiki/GitTogether09

What I'd appreciate is for people to drop me some notes about what
you've found annoying in git or room for improvement - especially from
those people who have had to teach it to new members in their team the
most.

One of the things I want to focus on are submodules - I hear from a lot
of people that they suck and would like to hear from you why.

If you have time to write, please do - otherwise if you'd prefer a face
to face rant showing with example that's all good too.  If there is
sufficient interest in this I could schedule a brief workshop on it.

I'm flying out in a week, so it needs to be between now and then.

Cheers!
Sam


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[Rick Welykochy]

Chris Cormack wrote:

> One of my colleagues from work is off to a git get together, and Is
> asking if anyone has anything they really wish was different with git.
> I said I would ask the koha developers as we have used git for a while
> now. So any suggestions send them my way and I will pass them on to  Sam

Yes! Please flatten the learning curve or at least make it
less steep.

Yes again! Provide some git for idyots doco.

And again! Provide some hybrid (macro?) commands that make
it conceptually easier for those coming from CVS to use git.

thanks
rick
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[MJ Ray-2]

Rick Welykochy wrote:
> Chris Cormack wrote:
> > One of my colleagues from work is off to a git get together, and Is
> > asking if anyone has anything they really wish was different with git.
> > I said I would ask the koha developers as we have used git for a while
> > now. So any suggestions send them my way and I will pass them on to  Sam

Some of the errors and recovery procedures are a bit confusing.  The
one which got me yesterday is the error "File exists" when another
user with a too-secure umask has created files in the git repository.
What it actually meant was that the file exists and my git couldn't
delete/modify it.

> Yes! Please flatten the learning curve or at least make it
> less steep.

How?

> Yes again! Provide some git for idyots doco.

What exactly do you want?  There's already
http://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/everyday.html
in the distribution and others outside it like
http://wiki.sourcemage.org/Git_Guide

> And again! Provide some hybrid (macro?) commands that make
> it conceptually easier for those coming from CVS to use git.

One problem is that CVS is actually conceptually broken, which was
part of the motive for git, but there's
http://git.or.cz/course/cvs.html (which uses cg not git, but I think
the actual commands in light blue are interchangable apart
from the switch command); or
http://www.chem.helsinki.fi/~jonas/git_guides/HTML/CVS2git/CVS2git.html#SECTION00061000000000000000

Hope that helps,
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[Thomas Dukleth]

A feature allowing the easy preservation of commit history in Git which
follows the new location of files when they are moved for reorganisation
would be great.  Understanding the code and preserving correct attribution
would be much improved by such a feature.

Most every programming tool could use more informative error messages.


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On Thu, October 15, 2009 04:10, Chris Cormack wrote:

> Hi Everyone
>
> One of my colleagues from work is off to a git get together, and Is
> asking if anyone has anything they really wish was different with git.
> I said I would ask the koha developers as we have used git for a while
> now. So any suggestions send them my way and I will pass them on to
> Sam.
>
> Chris
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>
> Hi all,
>
> For some strange reason the Git project is again flying me over to Silly
> Valley for the Google Summer of Code Mentor Summit.  And right after
> that I've got a thrilling 3 days of GitTogether™.  This is a meeting
> with many core git developers to discuss direction for git - see
> http://git.or.cz/gitwiki/GitTogether09
>
> What I'd appreciate is for people to drop me some notes about what
> you've found annoying in git or room for improvement - especially from
> those people who have had to teach it to new members in their team the
> most.
>
> One of the things I want to focus on are submodules - I hear from a lot
> of people that they suck and would like to hear from you why.
>
> If you have time to write, please do - otherwise if you'd prefer a face
> to face rant showing with example that's all good too.  If there is
> sufficient interest in this I could schedule a brief workshop on it.
>
> I'm flying out in a week, so it needs to be between now and then.
>
> Cheers!
> Sam
>
>
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[Mason James-5]

On 2009/10/16, at 4:13 PM, Thomas Dukleth wrote:

> A feature allowing the easy preservation of commit history in Git  
> which
> follows the new location of files when they are moved for  
> reorganisation
> would be great.


> Understanding the code and preserving correct attribution
> would be much improved by such a feature.

hmm, that *is* a good suggestion

i thought that either 'git-mv' or git-rename' did this, but a quick  
google-about says they dont - i'm surprised...


>
> Most every programming tool could use more informative error messages.

yep, thats a given, so get writing those man-pages and wiki-docs  
everyone! ;)


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