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Re: Fwd: Improving the Friends of GNOME donation pagesHi Stormy!
Thanks Glynn for the feedback. The slider idea is really nice! I think I can implement these with some help from Kalle (who is better at jquery voodoo than I am). Speaking of the FOG site. At some point I would like to look into some traffic data on the site at some point to figure out if we need to fine tune something on the site and look into from were we're getting the visits etc. - Andreas Stormy Peters wrote: > I think Glynn has some really good feedback on our Friends page. Can > someone help implement some changes that take it into account? Lucas? > Someone else? > > Thanks, > > Stormy > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: *Glynn Foster* <Glynn.Foster@... <mailto:Glynn.Foster@...>> > Date: Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 3:05 PM > Subject: Improving the Friends of GNOME donation pages > To: Stormy Peters <stormy@... <mailto:stormy@...>> > > > Hey, > > When you click on the 'Proceed with your donation' button, it goes to > a page where it looks like the only options are > > o Options specific to that level of donation eg. t-shirt size > o Select if you want to receive that gift > o Select whether you want your name on the donors page > o Add comments > > The important box with the dollar figure is small, and pushed out at > the end of the first line. All the options above are highlighted in > green, but the dollar figure section is not. I'd suggest having a > header 'Select donation amount:' in green, and bringing the box onto a > separate line. I'd also wrap the larger comments box below 'improve > the GNOME Foundation:' text. > > Bonus points would be if you could somehow create a slider widget that > allows the user to drag the dot between two extremes ie. > > Thank you! $25 > You are awesome, thank you! $100 > <------------------- o > --------------------------------------------------------------------> > $50 > > (or something similar to try and encourage more love for a higher > dollar amount) > > I'm sure there's some clever articles around the net about donation > sites and how to maximize donations. Friends of GNOME is a nice set of > pages, but I think more could be done. How about recording a few > different people at GUADEC in a quiet room asking them to say how > much we appreciate donations and what they go for. "I'm Vincent Untz. > I've been a GNOME developer for the past 8 years. The money you've > just donated has helped people like me to maintain the GNOME panel > and have the opportunity of face to face meetings with other GNOME > developers. In 2007 we visited a school yadda yadda yadda ... Thank > you so much for donating to the GNOME Foundation, we really appreciate > your support". Perhaps a whacky idea :) > > > Glynn > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- > marketing-list mailing list > marketing-list@... > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list > -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list |
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Re: Fwd: Improving the Friends of GNOME donation pagesOn Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 5:00 PM, Andreas Nilsson <nisses.mail@...> wrote: Hi Stormy! Awesome!
Last time I asked for traffic data on the website I got just some general numbers. What would people think of putting something like Google Analytics on the website? I guess that's probably a question for the web team. I think it would really help us figure out what's going on. Stormy
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Re: Fwd: Improving the Friends of GNOME donation pagesHi Stormy,
Stormy Peters wrote: > Last time I asked for traffic data on the website I got just some > general numbers. > > What would people think of putting something like Google Analytics on > the website? I guess that's probably a question for the web team. I > think it would really help us figure out what's going on. Webalyzer is on there: http://www.gnome.org/stats/ http://foundation.gnome.org/stats/ http://planet.gnome.org/stats/ http://developer.gnome.org/stats/ http://library.gnome.org/stats/ (succeeded developer - interesting to see dgo's figures holding up since then) Looking at April, wgo/friends is an entry page for 16629 hits, and 7720 visits. It also figures in the top 20 referrer URLs for GNOME pages: 153604 hits. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dneary@... -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list |
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Re: Fwd: Improving the Friends of GNOME donation pagesBut I couldn't find good data about paths through, referring websites, entrance websites, exit websites, etc.
Stormy On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 6:52 AM, Dave Neary <dneary@...> wrote: Hi Stormy, -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list |
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Re: Fwd: Improving the Friends of GNOME donation pagesHi,
Stormy Peters wrote: > But I couldn't find good data about paths through, referring websites, > entrance websites, exit websites, etc. No, Webalizer doesn't really give good detailed information. Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dneary@... -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list |
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Re: Fwd: Improving the Friends of GNOME donation pagesGoogle analytics is really good (and free of cost, but not open source) - it would help us in designing the new website and in marketing in general, if we could add it to the website.
Stormy
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 8:56 AM, Dave Neary <dneary@...> wrote: Hi, -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list |
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Re: Fwd: Improving the Friends of GNOME donation pagesTo be clear, I'd much, much rather use open/free (not in terms of cost free) services. So if anyone knows of one that could provide the more detailed data we could use, please speak up!
Stormy
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 9:01 AM, Stormy Peters <stormy@...> wrote: Google analytics is really good (and free of cost, but not open source) - it would help us in designing the new website and in marketing in general, if we could add it to the website. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list |
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Re: Fwd: Improving the Friends of GNOME donation pages-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1 Stormy, On 04.05.2009 17:01, Stormy Peters wrote: > Google analytics is really good (and free of cost, but not open source) - it > would help us in designing the new website and in marketing in general, if > we could add it to the website. I suggest you consider using Piwik [1] instead of Google Analytics. It is an open source clone of Google Analytics and - while still in beta - should offer everything you want. I've used it in production with a number of quite large sites and it has worked like a charm so far. Benefits: * It's open source. * You can keep the data of your users in-house. * You can delete the user data as soon as you don't need it anymore. The only drawback I see is that it's not a hosted solution. If you want to use it, you need to install and maintain it on Gnome servers. On the other hand, I think this is also one of the major advantages of Piwik over Analytics. :-) Patrick [1] <http://www.piwik.org/> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkn/CCoACgkQFBnImAM5roGlBQCg/ZA7I0EOCuEjtbaJ0yxx70a/ dVQAoLCC7OGgcpzHwQcKeNYbzDhusYB+ =P/8y -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list |
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Re: Fwd: Improving the Friends of GNOME donation pagesAnother important feature of Google Analytics is the possibility to make A/B split test.
This is a "must-have" for increasing conversion rates of the friends pages. Best regards, Claus
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 5:01 PM, Stormy Peters <stormy@...> wrote: Google analytics is really good (and free of cost, but not open source) - it would help us in designing the new website and in marketing in general, if we could add it to the website. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list |
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Re: Fwd: Improving the Friends of GNOME donation pagesPatrick Fey wrote:
> On 04.05.2009 17:01, Stormy Peters wrote: > >> Google analytics is really good (and free of cost, but not open source) - it >> would help us in designing the new website and in marketing in general, if >> we could add it to the website. >> > I suggest you consider using Piwik [1] instead of Google Analytics. It > is an open source clone of Google Analytics and - while still in beta - > should offer everything you want. I've used it in production with a > number of quite large sites and it has worked like a charm so far. > > The only drawback I see is that it's not a hosted solution. If you want > to use it, you need to install and maintain it on Gnome servers. On the > other hand, I think this is also one of the major advantages of Piwik > over Analytics. > If not, lets go for Google. I want the data now. :) - Andreas > [1] <http://www.piwik.org/> > -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list |
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Re: Fwd: Improving the Friends of GNOME donation pagesOn 05/04/2009 07:17 PM, Andreas Nilsson wrote:
> If not, lets go for Google. I want the data now. :) These kind of decisions to use non-Free Software services have always backfired in the past. Though most of the times without a clear alternative proposal that considers the volunteer time required. behdad -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list |
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Re: Fwd: Improving the Friends of GNOME donation pagesIs there a better list to ask for volunteers for this? Maybe the web list or the gnome hackers list?
Stormy On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Andreas Nilsson <nisses.mail@...> wrote: Patrick Fey wrote: -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list |
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Hash: SHA1 On 06.05.2009 07:34, Stormy Peters wrote: > Is there a better list to ask for volunteers for this? Maybe the web list or > the gnome hackers list? I can set it up for you, if you want. Piwik needs a database on a MySQL server and a web server with PHP5 support. Do we have that? If so, it probably comes down to trust (i.e. do you trust me enough to give me access to the server). If we do not have that, we should discuss with the sysadmin team, if it is feasible to set it up. Or we could use my Piwik instance for tracking, but that would be the same as if you went down the Google path. :-) Patrick -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkoBOWgACgkQFBnImAM5roFnfQCfVJAdb/HFRxW/pZeBKM4J8Agm tgAAn3cAgXyS7ocxJvg5UvX3gUaRaRz+ =8kUk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list |
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Re: Fwd: Improving the Friends of GNOME donation pagesAny progress with the sysadmin team on this?
Having piwik installed will be instrumental for improving the GNOME website Jaap On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 09:17, Patrick Fey<inside@...> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 06.05.2009 07:34, Stormy Peters wrote: >> Is there a better list to ask for volunteers for this? Maybe the web list or >> the gnome hackers list? > > I can set it up for you, if you want. Piwik needs a database on a MySQL > server and a web server with PHP5 support. Do we have that? If so, it > probably comes down to trust (i.e. do you trust me enough to give me > access to the server). If we do not have that, we should discuss with > the sysadmin team, if it is feasible to set it up. Or we could use my > Piwik instance for tracking, but that would be the same as if you went > down the Google path. > > :-) Patrick > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > iEYEARECAAYFAkoBOWgACgkQFBnImAM5roFnfQCfVJAdb/HFRxW/pZeBKM4J8Agm > tgAAn3cAgXyS7ocxJvg5UvX3gUaRaRz+ > =8kUk > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > -- > marketing-list mailing list > marketing-list@... > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list > -- blog: http://jaap.haitsma.org -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list |
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Re: Fwd: Improving the Friends of GNOME donation pagesWe discussed this yesterday briefly in the Sysadmin team meeting, and
Jeff is following up. Basically, there are some concerns around Piwik
and some security holes, but Jeff is investigating and will report back
in the next couple of weeks.
Paul On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Jaap A. Haitsma <jaap@...> wrote: Any progress with the sysadmin team on this? -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list |
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Re: Fwd: Improving the Friends of GNOME donation pagesOn Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Jaap A. Haitsma <jaap@...> wrote:
> Any progress with the sysadmin team on this? > Having piwik installed will be instrumental for improving the GNOME website Piwik is now installed on http://webstats.gnome.org. Email me offlist for the login information. Sorry this took so long to take care of. You can add this to the pages you want it to track: <!-- Piwik --> <script type="text/javascript"> var pkBaseURL = (("https:" == document.location.protocol) ? "https://webstats.gnome.org/" : "http://webstats.gnome.org/"); document.write(unescape("%3Cscript src='" + pkBaseURL + "piwik.js' type='text/javascript'%3E%3C/script%3E")); </script><script type="text/javascript"> try { var piwikTracker = Piwik.getTracker(pkBaseURL + "piwik.php", 1); piwikTracker.trackPageView(); piwikTracker.enableLinkTracking(); } catch( err ) {} </script><noscript><p><img src="http://webstats.gnome.org/piwik.php?idsite=1" style="border:0" alt=""/></p></noscript> <!-- End Piwik Tag --> > On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 09:17, Patrick Fey<inside@...> wrote: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 06.05.2009 07:34, Stormy Peters wrote: >>> Is there a better list to ask for volunteers for this? Maybe the web list or >>> the gnome hackers list? >> >> I can set it up for you, if you want. Piwik needs a database on a MySQL >> server and a web server with PHP5 support. Do we have that? If so, it >> probably comes down to trust (i.e. do you trust me enough to give me >> access to the server). If we do not have that, we should discuss with >> the sysadmin team, if it is feasible to set it up. Or we could use my >> Piwik instance for tracking, but that would be the same as if you went >> down the Google path. >> >> :-) Patrick >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) >> Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ >> >> iEYEARECAAYFAkoBOWgACgkQFBnImAM5roFnfQCfVJAdb/HFRxW/pZeBKM4J8Agm >> tgAAn3cAgXyS7ocxJvg5UvX3gUaRaRz+ >> =8kUk >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> -- >> marketing-list mailing list >> marketing-list@... >> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list >> > > > > -- > blog: http://jaap.haitsma.org > _______________________________________________ > gnome-infrastructure mailing list > gnome-infrastructure@... > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-infrastructure > -- Jeff Schroeder Don't drink and derive, alcohol and analysis don't mix. http://www.digitalprognosis.com -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list |
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Re: Fwd: Improving the Friends of GNOME donation pagesGreat!!
Shouldn't we add this piwik script to every page? Can be done very easy by modifying include/evilsedhack in gnomeweb-wml. Jaap On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 00:31, Jeff Schroeder <jeffschroed@...> wrote: > On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Jaap A. Haitsma <jaap@...> wrote: >> Any progress with the sysadmin team on this? >> Having piwik installed will be instrumental for improving the GNOME website > > Piwik is now installed on http://webstats.gnome.org. Email me offlist > for the login information. Sorry this took so long to take care of. > > You can add this to the pages you want it to track: > <!-- Piwik --> > <script type="text/javascript"> > var pkBaseURL = (("https:" == document.location.protocol) ? > "https://webstats.gnome.org/" : "http://webstats.gnome.org/"); > document.write(unescape("%3Cscript src='" + pkBaseURL + "piwik.js' > type='text/javascript'%3E%3C/script%3E")); > </script><script type="text/javascript"> > try { > var piwikTracker = Piwik.getTracker(pkBaseURL + "piwik.php", 1); > piwikTracker.trackPageView(); > piwikTracker.enableLinkTracking(); > } catch( err ) {} > </script><noscript><p><img > src="http://webstats.gnome.org/piwik.php?idsite=1" style="border:0" > alt=""/></p></noscript> > <!-- End Piwik Tag --> > >> On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 09:17, Patrick Fey<inside@...> wrote: >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>> Hash: SHA1 >>> >>> On 06.05.2009 07:34, Stormy Peters wrote: >>>> Is there a better list to ask for volunteers for this? Maybe the web list or >>>> the gnome hackers list? >>> >>> I can set it up for you, if you want. Piwik needs a database on a MySQL >>> server and a web server with PHP5 support. Do we have that? If so, it >>> probably comes down to trust (i.e. do you trust me enough to give me >>> access to the server). If we do not have that, we should discuss with >>> the sysadmin team, if it is feasible to set it up. Or we could use my >>> Piwik instance for tracking, but that would be the same as if you went >>> down the Google path. >>> >>> :-) Patrick >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >>> Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) >>> Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ >>> >>> iEYEARECAAYFAkoBOWgACgkQFBnImAM5roFnfQCfVJAdb/HFRxW/pZeBKM4J8Agm >>> tgAAn3cAgXyS7ocxJvg5UvX3gUaRaRz+ >>> =8kUk >>> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >>> -- >>> marketing-list mailing list >>> marketing-list@... >>> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> blog: http://jaap.haitsma.org >> _______________________________________________ >> gnome-infrastructure mailing list >> gnome-infrastructure@... >> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-infrastructure >> > > > > -- > Jeff Schroeder > > Don't drink and derive, alcohol and analysis don't mix. > http://www.digitalprognosis.com > marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list |
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Re: Fwd: Improving the Friends of GNOME donation pagesOn Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 11:15 PM, Jaap A. Haitsma <jaap@...> wrote:
> Great!! > > Shouldn't we add this piwik script to every page? Can be done very > easy by modifying > include/evilsedhack in gnomeweb-wml. If you're a committer to gnomeweb-wml feel free :) Andreas Nilsson has the piwik login if anyone needs it. > On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 00:31, Jeff Schroeder <jeffschroed@...> wrote: >> On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Jaap A. Haitsma <jaap@...> wrote: >>> Any progress with the sysadmin team on this? >>> Having piwik installed will be instrumental for improving the GNOME website >> >> Piwik is now installed on http://webstats.gnome.org. Email me offlist >> for the login information. Sorry this took so long to take care of. >> >> You can add this to the pages you want it to track: >> <!-- Piwik --> >> <script type="text/javascript"> >> var pkBaseURL = (("https:" == document.location.protocol) ? >> "https://webstats.gnome.org/" : "http://webstats.gnome.org/"); >> document.write(unescape("%3Cscript src='" + pkBaseURL + "piwik.js' >> type='text/javascript'%3E%3C/script%3E")); >> </script><script type="text/javascript"> >> try { >> var piwikTracker = Piwik.getTracker(pkBaseURL + "piwik.php", 1); >> piwikTracker.trackPageView(); >> piwikTracker.enableLinkTracking(); >> } catch( err ) {} >> </script><noscript><p><img >> src="http://webstats.gnome.org/piwik.php?idsite=1" style="border:0" >> alt=""/></p></noscript> >> <!-- End Piwik Tag --> >> >>> On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 09:17, Patrick Fey<inside@...> wrote: >>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>> Hash: SHA1 >>>> >>>> On 06.05.2009 07:34, Stormy Peters wrote: >>>>> Is there a better list to ask for volunteers for this? Maybe the web list or >>>>> the gnome hackers list? >>>> >>>> I can set it up for you, if you want. Piwik needs a database on a MySQL >>>> server and a web server with PHP5 support. Do we have that? If so, it >>>> probably comes down to trust (i.e. do you trust me enough to give me >>>> access to the server). If we do not have that, we should discuss with >>>> the sysadmin team, if it is feasible to set it up. Or we could use my >>>> Piwik instance for tracking, but that would be the same as if you went >>>> down the Google path. >>>> >>>> :-) Patrick >>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >>>> Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) >>>> Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ >>>> >>>> iEYEARECAAYFAkoBOWgACgkQFBnImAM5roFnfQCfVJAdb/HFRxW/pZeBKM4J8Agm >>>> tgAAn3cAgXyS7ocxJvg5UvX3gUaRaRz+ >>>> =8kUk >>>> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >>>> -- >>>> marketing-list mailing list >>>> marketing-list@... >>>> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> blog: http://jaap.haitsma.org >>> _______________________________________________ >>> gnome-infrastructure mailing list >>> gnome-infrastructure@... >>> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-infrastructure >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Jeff Schroeder >> >> Don't drink and derive, alcohol and analysis don't mix. >> http://www.digitalprognosis.com >> > -- Jeff Schroeder Don't drink and derive, alcohol and analysis don't mix. http://www.digitalprognosis.com -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list |
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Re: Fwd: Improving the Friends of GNOME donation pagesOn Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 14:15, Jeff Schroeder <jeffschroed@...> wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 11:15 PM, Jaap A. Haitsma <jaap@...> wrote: >> Great!! >> >> Shouldn't we add this piwik script to every page? Can be done very >> easy by modifying >> include/evilsedhack in gnomeweb-wml. > > If you're a committer to gnomeweb-wml feel free :) > > Andreas Nilsson has the piwik login if anyone needs it. > Thanks Jaap -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list |
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