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by Cesar D. Rodas
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On 06/12/2007, Philippe Jausions <Philippe.Jausions@...> wrote:
>
> till wrote:
> > I swear to whatever you believe.
> >
> > I worked on a project a while back where the client wanted to backup
> > into S3. They had a bunch of wrappers (straight php, curl) but it did
> > not work. So when I asked them who did this, they didn't know and said
> > it was some intern and it had 0 copyrights/names on it.
>
> Now we're getting somewhere...
>
> > I ported the class to use HTTP_Request etc., recently I put in
> > CRYPT_HMAC2 as well to go more PHP5 when I used it at another client.
> > And now I will use MIME_Type etc. and change the behavior from global
> > constants to class vars to follow suggestions given in comments.
>
> Future changes don't really apply here.
>
> > Both parties told me that they had no problem if I proposed it to PEAR
> > since I made it work and polished it up. So if some intern indeed took
> > your code in the beginning, I am still not aware of this. The first
> > project dates back to over three months ago.
>
> There are too many similarities especially with typos in comments (no
> offense Cesar ;) to not give credit to Cesar for the original code.
Dont worry, as you can see (or read) English is not my first language, it is
my third language.
> On Dec 6, 2007 5:21 AM, Cesar D. Rodas <saddor@...> wrote:
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> Really?, take a look on the code, there are so similar, and I was code
> it
> >> long time ago, I have prove...
> >>
> >> Can U explain why, even the comments are similar?, why you only don't
> accept
> >> it, you copy.. I wont be angry :-)
> >>
> >> Even the package has my same English mistakes ;-) on the comments
> >>
> >> On 06/12/2007, till <klimpong@...> wrote:
> >>> Cesar,
> >>>
> >>> I was not aware of your package and DID NOT COPY ANY OF YOUR CODE.
>
> (Not knowingly)
>
> >>> I build this code over 3 months ago and used it in the last month on a
> >>> website and since I was using it in production decided to release it.
> >>> I have no idea when you came up with it, but there are also other
> >>> people who wrote similar packages.
>
> "Built upon existing code provided by client" would sound more
> appropriate.
>
> >>> E.g. Clay notified me last night that he had written a very similar
> >>> package.
> >>>
> >>> Till
>
> No one is making a million $ on this, and you both use OSS licenses.
Even the class is free, it must have my name there, if you use a portion of
the code it means that you accept what the BSD License say.
-Philippe
>
I think that Gregory Beaver <greg+at+chiaraquartet+dot+net> (
http://news.php.net/php.pear.dev/48696) shows many proves that the code was
write by me.
Personally I don't believe the story of some other one copy the code,
removes only the copyrights, and give him without copyrights.
Get the class is so easy, if you Google "php amazon s3 stream wrapper", or
"php amazon s3 client", you can see on the first the result my class, so a
PHP programmer will google something similar to that easily than a mere
mortal or a "client"
--
Best Regards
Cesar D. Rodas
http://www.cesarodas.com
http://www.thyphp.com
http://www.phpajax.org
Phone: +595-961-974165
On 06/12/2007, Philippe Jausions <Philippe.Jausions@...> wrote:
>
> till wrote:
> > I swear to whatever you believe.
> >
> > I worked on a project a while back where the client wanted to backup
> > into S3. They had a bunch of wrappers (straight php, curl) but it did
> > not work. So when I asked them who did this, they didn't know and said
> > it was some intern and it had 0 copyrights/names on it.
>
> Now we're getting somewhere...
>
> > I ported the class to use HTTP_Request etc., recently I put in
> > CRYPT_HMAC2 as well to go more PHP5 when I used it at another client.
> > And now I will use MIME_Type etc. and change the behavior from global
> > constants to class vars to follow suggestions given in comments.
>
> Future changes don't really apply here.
>
> > Both parties told me that they had no problem if I proposed it to PEAR
> > since I made it work and polished it up. So if some intern indeed took
> > your code in the beginning, I am still not aware of this. The first
> > project dates back to over three months ago.
>
> There are too many similarities especially with typos in comments (no
> offense Cesar ;) to not give credit to Cesar for the original code.
Dont worry, as you can see (or read) English is not my first language, it is
my third language.
> On Dec 6, 2007 5:21 AM, Cesar D. Rodas <saddor@...> wrote:
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> Really?, take a look on the code, there are so similar, and I was code
> it
> >> long time ago, I have prove...
> >>
> >> Can U explain why, even the comments are similar?, why you only don't
> accept
> >> it, you copy.. I wont be angry :-)
> >>
> >> Even the package has my same English mistakes ;-) on the comments
> >>
> >> On 06/12/2007, till <klimpong@...> wrote:
> >>> Cesar,
> >>>
> >>> I was not aware of your package and DID NOT COPY ANY OF YOUR CODE.
>
> (Not knowingly)
>
> >>> I build this code over 3 months ago and used it in the last month on a
> >>> website and since I was using it in production decided to release it.
> >>> I have no idea when you came up with it, but there are also other
> >>> people who wrote similar packages.
>
> "Built upon existing code provided by client" would sound more
> appropriate.
>
> >>> E.g. Clay notified me last night that he had written a very similar
> >>> package.
> >>>
> >>> Till
>
> No one is making a million $ on this, and you both use OSS licenses.
Even the class is free, it must have my name there, if you use a portion of
the code it means that you accept what the BSD License say.
-Philippe
>
I think that Gregory Beaver <greg+at+chiaraquartet+dot+net> (
http://news.php.net/php.pear.dev/48696) shows many proves that the code was
write by me.
Personally I don't believe the story of some other one copy the code,
removes only the copyrights, and give him without copyrights.
Get the class is so easy, if you Google "php amazon s3 stream wrapper", or
"php amazon s3 client", you can see on the first the result my class, so a
PHP programmer will google something similar to that easily than a mere
mortal or a "client"
--
Best Regards
Cesar D. Rodas
http://www.cesarodas.com
http://www.thyphp.com
http://www.phpajax.org
Phone: +595-961-974165
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