tag:old.nabble.com,2006:forum-87Nabble - GIMP2009-11-06T01:02:31ZGIMP home is <a href="http://www.gimp.org/" target="_top" rel="nofollow">here</a>.tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26228728Re: Wish: adding Jitter and Brush Dynamics into Script-Fu2009-11-06T01:02:31Z2009-11-06T01:02:31ZMichael NattererOn Wed, 2009-11-04 at 14:16 +0100, <a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26228728&i=0" target="_top" rel="nofollow">ginodonig@...</a> wrote:
<div class='shrinkable-quote'><br>> Hi.
<br>>
<br>> 2009/10/31 Michael Natterer <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26228728&i=1" target="_top" rel="nofollow">mitch@...</a>>
<br>>
<br>> On Sat, 2009-10-31 at 11:40 +0100, <a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26228728&i=2" target="_top" rel="nofollow">ginodonig@...</a> wrote:
<br>> > Hi.
<br>> >
<br>> > After glancing over the various commands listed inside the
<br>> Script-Fu
<br>> > Procedure Browser, I noticed that it ain't possible to
<br>> invoke Jitter
<br>> > and Brush Dynamics by using the Script-Fu language.
<br>> >
<br>> > It would be nice if these two useful features were
<br>> implemented within
<br>> > Script-Fu in some way.
<br>> >
<br>> > By chance, the addition of these functionalities into
<br>> Script-Fu (as
<br>> > new procedures or maybe as arguments of existing procedures)
<br>> is
<br>> > planned for upcoming versions of GIMP?
<br>>
<br>>
<br>> yes.
<br>>
<br>> ciao,
<br>> --mitch
<br>>
<br>>
<br>>
<br>> Out of curiosity, generally speaking, how this integration will be
<br>> eventually performed? Maybe, Brush Dynamics and Jitter will become new
<br>> arguments of the Script-Fu procedures concerning Brush Tools (like
<br>> gimp-paintbrush, gimp-dodgeburn, gimp-edit-stroke, etc...) ?
</div><br>We don't know yet, but additional parameters are not an option
<br>because that would break existing scripts. The general plan is
<br>to introduce variable argument lists with named parameters
<br>and default values, but for paint properties I guess there will
<br>simply be more setters in the gimp-context namespace that will
<br>affect the paint functions.
<br><br>ciao,
<br>--mitch
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<br>> Sorry if my question is out of context: has this problem anything to
<br>> do with the fact that the Gfig or Spyrogimp filters, for example, are
<br>> no longer usable with version 2.7, since there is no way to change the
<br>> size of the brush?
<br><br>That is certainly a different issue. But if you can still reproduce it
<br>with a recent git checkout, then you should make sure that it is
<br>reported in our bug-tracker.
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-- <br>Olivier Lecarme<br>
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<br>and I want to load these all as layers... how can I do this
<br>without cut/paste of each separate image ?
<br><br>Is there a function which does this automatically,
<br>from a group of already open images ?
<br><br>thanks
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<br><br>On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 8:55 AM, Rob Antonishen wrote:
<br>As far as I know, there is no blueprint at this time. I had previously
<br>asked when the 2.4 current brush options (mainly brush scaling) would
<br>be either respected from scripts or selectable as parameters.
<br><br>There is a bugtrack item on this. I would suspect a whole new PDB call
<br>will have to be created with new parameters, and the old calls
<br>eventually depreciated. It might be worth making the new one take all
<br>parameters as a single argument consisting of parameter enums and
<br>values so it can be extended later without changing the PDB call again
<br>as more brush options become available.
<br><br>-Rob A>
<br><div class='shrinkable-quote'><br>>> > Hi.
<br>>> >
<br>>> > After glancing over the various commands listed inside the Script-Fu
<br>>> > Procedure Browser, I noticed that it ain't possible to invoke Jitter
<br>>> > and Brush Dynamics by using the Script-Fu language.
<br>>> >
<br>>> > It would be nice if these two useful features were implemented within
<br>>> > Script-Fu in some way.
<br>>> >
<br>>> > By chance, the addition of these functionalities into Script-Fu (as
<br>>> > new procedures or maybe as arguments of existing procedures) is
<br>>> > planned for upcoming versions of GIMP?
<br>>>
<br>>> yes.
<br>>>
<br>>> ciao,
<br>>> --mitch
<br>>>
<br>>>
<br>>>
<br>> Out of curiosity, generally speaking, how this integration will be
<br>> eventually performed? Maybe, Brush Dynamics and Jitter will become new
<br>> arguments of the Script-Fu procedures concerning Brush Tools (like
<br>> gimp-paintbrush, gimp-dodgeburn, gimp-edit-stroke, etc...) ?
<br>>
<br>> Thanks in advance.
<br>>
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<br><br>You have to do baseball caps and beanies... T-shirts are
<br>decoration -- hats are functional equipment protecting eyes from
<br>sun and head from cold.
<br><br>HATS!!!
<br><br>Ismael Barros² wrote:
<div class='shrinkable-quote'><br>> Hi,
<br>>
<br>> We are FreeWear.org, we print and sell T-shirts with FOSS designs
<br>> (Linux distros, desktops environments, etc) and donate to each
<br>> organization a percentage of each sold article. We usually sell via
<br>> website, but we can also be found in local FOSS-related events. We
<br>> also cover special orders, like commemorative t-shirts for events.
<br>>
<br>> We just started up a contest to make a cool GIMP T-shirt. You are all
<br>> welcome to send your designs. Feel free to drop me any question you
<br>> have.
<br>>
<br>> You can find the rules here: <a href="http://www.freewear.org/?contest=gimp" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://www.freewear.org/?contest=gimp</a><br>>
<br>> Regards,
<br>> Ismael
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<br><br>We are FreeWear.org, we print and sell T-shirts with FOSS designs
<br>(Linux distros, desktops environments, etc) and donate to each
<br>organization a percentage of each sold article. We usually sell via
<br>website, but we can also be found in local FOSS-related events. We
<br>also cover special orders, like commemorative t-shirts for events.
<br><br>We just started up a contest to make a cool GIMP T-shirt. You are all
<br>welcome to send your designs. Feel free to drop me any question you
<br>have.
<br><br>You can find the rules here: <a href="http://www.freewear.org/?contest=gimp" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://www.freewear.org/?contest=gimp</a><br><br>Regards,
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<br>> On Wednesday 04 November 2009, Ismael Barros² wrote:
<br>>> How about a little competition?
<br>>
<br>> Better than this list would be the gimp-user list, and I'm sure there are some
<br>> more lists for this purpose.
<br><br>Indeed, I'll spread the word.
<br><br>I organised the rules and added some that were missing. You can find
<br>them at <a href="http://www.freewear.org/?contest=gimp" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://www.freewear.org/?contest=gimp</a><br><br>Cheers,
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<div class="quote-author" style="font-weight: bold;">Christopher Howard-3 wrote:</div>
<div class="quote-message">If the devels ever did come over to the other side on this issue, the
<br>coolest way to go about picking a new name would be a contest. For
<br>example, have a web page where people suggest a name or vote on a list
<br>of names. Then the devs could pick from the top 5.
<br><br>Imagine the publicity and recognition the project would get the moment
<br>word got out about the contest! It would be on every blog and news site
<br>in the FOSS universe!</div>
</div></blockquote>
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<br><br>> Because I was curious about what registry entry the installer looks
<br>> for I downloaded some NSIS-source files of the Windows-installer for
<br>> GIMP.
<br>> At SourceForge I found a file with a name of
<br>> gimp+gtk-install-script-20061018.zip. 2006 sounds pretty old to me,
<br>> but it was the most recent I could find.
<br><br>The most recent installer source is
<br><a href="http://sourceforge.net/projects/gimp-win/files/GIMP%20%2B%20GTK%2B%20(stable%20release)/GIMP%202.6.5%20%2B%20GTK%2B%202.14.7/gimp-install-script-20090321.zip/download" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://sourceforge.net/projects/gimp-win/files/GIMP%20%2B%20GTK%2B%20(stable%20release)/GIMP%202.6.5%20%2B%20GTK%2B%202.14.7/gimp-install-script-20090321.zip/download</a><br><br>And it's Inno, not NSIS - I'm not masochistic.
<br><br>> Perhaps one could also use a registry monitor to see what exact
<br>> Registry key a more recent GIMP version is checking.
<br><br>Same as the script you found, except that it looks for Python 2.5 and 2.6
<br>(GIMP 2.6 installers support both Python versions).
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<br><br>Thanks for your reply and good to hear that you succeeded.
<br>I would not have expected that a Registry Cleaner would do the job,
<br>but nonetheless congratulations.
<br><br>Because I was curious about what registry entry the installer looks
<br>for I downloaded some NSIS-source files of the Windows-installer for
<br>GIMP.
<br>At SourceForge I found a file with a name of
<br>gimp+gtk-install-script-20061018.zip. 2006 sounds pretty old to me,
<br>but it was the most recent I could find.
<br><br>So I downloaded it and opened it and in gimp+gtk.iss I found a
<br>function called EnablePython. This function looks in the Windows
<br>registry for the key
<br>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Python\PythonCore\2.4\InstallPath. In my
<br>Windows registry I could only find a 2.5 and a 2.6 for Python, but
<br>newer GIMP installers might be looking for a newer Python version in
<br>the registry.
<br>Then it looks in the directory that is listed in the InstallPath for a
<br>sub-directory called Lib\site-packages\gtk-2.0 to check whether PyGTK
<br>is installed.
<br>When this is found, one can install GIMP-Python.
<br><br>Perhaps one could also use a registry monitor to see what exact
<br>Registry key a more recent GIMP version is checking.
<br>Or perhaps also newer installer-sources can be found online.
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<br>>
<br>>Have you also tried Gimp-Python Easier at
<br>><a href="http://photocomix-resources.deviantart.com/art/Gimp-Python-support-easier-74889017" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://photocomix-resources.deviantart.com/art/Gimp-Python-support-easier-74889017</a><br>>?
<br>>I know that this was made before Windows 7 was finished, but it might
<br>>be worth a try.
<br>>
<br>>I can remember that I also tried installing GIMP-Python (on Windows XP).
<br>>At first the GIMP Windows-installer did not recognize it (option was
<br>>grayed out), but in the end I was able to install it and use
<br>>Python-scripts with GIMP.
<br>>However, I cannot recall what I have exactly done when it was finally
<br>>recognized.
<br>>I guess I went over the different installation documents a couple of
<br>>times installing all kinds of Python-components hoping it would work.
<br>>
<br>>Perhaps Jernej can tell what the installer is actually looking for.
<br>>It might be some registry key that can be missing or perhaps it is
<br>>looking for a specific Python version.
<br>>
<br>>
</div><br>Martin,
<br><br>Thanks for your response, but I just got the install to work finally.
<br><br>I ran a registry cleaner after my last uninstall, and this time the
<br>installation was successful.
<br><br>Go Figure!
<br><br>Thanks for your suggestions all the same
<br><br>Don
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<br><br>Have you also tried Gimp-Python Easier at
<br><a href="http://photocomix-resources.deviantart.com/art/Gimp-Python-support-easier-74889017" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://photocomix-resources.deviantart.com/art/Gimp-Python-support-easier-74889017</a><br>?
<br>I know that this was made before Windows 7 was finished, but it might
<br>be worth a try.
<br><br>I can remember that I also tried installing GIMP-Python (on Windows XP).
<br>At first the GIMP Windows-installer did not recognize it (option was
<br>grayed out), but in the end I was able to install it and use
<br>Python-scripts with GIMP.
<br>However, I cannot recall what I have exactly done when it was finally
<br>recognized.
<br>I guess I went over the different installation documents a couple of
<br>times installing all kinds of Python-components hoping it would work.
<br><br>Perhaps Jernej can tell what the installer is actually looking for.
<br>It might be some registry key that can be missing or perhaps it is
<br>looking for a specific Python version.
<br><br>--
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<br><br>First of all, I am completely new to both Gimp and Python.
<br><br>I've installed Python and everything else that is needed for Gimp several
<br>times, but when I go to install Gimp, the Python components are always grayed
<br>out in the custom installation and therefore will not be installed.
<br><br>I've followed all the instructions for installing Python, Pycairo, Pygobject,
<br>and PyGTK, and have tested Python and found it working as it should, but
<br>Gimp just does not see it on the system.
<br><br>FYI, I am running Windows 7 Ultimate.
<br><br>Does anyone have any ideas as to why Gimp does not
<br>recognize that Python is installed on the system?
<br><br>I'd appreciate any help. Thanks.
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<br>> How about a little competition?
<br><br>Better than this list would be the gimp-user list, and I'm sure there are some
<br>more lists for this purpose.
<br><br>Daniel
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<div><div></div><div class="h5">On Sat, 2009-10-31 at 11:40 +0100, <a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26196114&i=1" target="_top" rel="nofollow">ginodonig@...</a> wrote:<br>
> Hi.<br>
><br>
> After glancing over the various commands listed inside the Script-Fu<br>
> Procedure Browser, I noticed that it ain't possible to invoke Jitter<br>
> and Brush Dynamics by using the Script-Fu language.<br>
><br>
> It would be nice if these two useful features were implemented within<br>
> Script-Fu in some way.<br>
><br>
> By chance, the addition of these functionalities into Script-Fu (as<br>
> new procedures or maybe as arguments of existing procedures) is<br>
> planned for upcoming versions of GIMP?<br>
<br>
</div></div>yes.<br>
<br>
ciao,<br>
--mitch<br>
<br>
<br></blockquote><div> </div><div>Out of curiosity, generally speaking, how this integration will be
eventually performed? Maybe, Brush Dynamics and Jitter will become new
arguments of the Script-Fu procedures concerning Brush Tools (like
gimp-paintbrush, gimp-dodgeburn, gimp-edit-stroke, etc...) ?<br>
<br>
Thanks in advance.
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<br>> I really like the
<br>> <a href="http://www.freewear.org/images/release_candidates/gimp_base.png" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://www.freewear.org/images/release_candidates/gimp_base.png</a><br>> But i ´ll try to do a logo for you. the format must be svg? or xcf?
<br><br>Oops, forgot that little detail. Format must be svg.
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<br>arthur zhang <<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26192509&i=0" target="_top" rel="nofollow">mail2arthur@...</a>> wrote:
<br><br>> Hi, I am new to this list and have limited experience with GIMP (on
<br>> Ubuntu). Now I have a ASL which google tells is PS style library file.
<br>> Can I use it in GIMP. Thanks. Arthur
<br>>
<br><br><br>I would say no.
<br><br>Go to File->Open and you will see a dialog that allows you to select an
<br>extension type. ASL does not appear in that list.
<br><br><br><br><br>Owen
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<br>> Ismael Barros² wrote:
<br>>
<br>>> We've taken the liberty of making some simple designs based on Wilber:
<br>>>
<br>>> <a href="http://www.freewear.org/images/release_candidates/propuesta_gimp.png" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://www.freewear.org/images/release_candidates/propuesta_gimp.png</a><br>>
<br>> I don't really like any of the Wilbers shown there. Maybe you can come
<br>> up with some proposals featuring the more recent Wilber versions?
<br><br>Our artist gave it a try:
<br><br><a href="http://www.freewear.org/images/release_candidates/gimp_base.png" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://www.freewear.org/images/release_candidates/gimp_base.png</a><br><a href="http://www.freewear.org/images/release_candidates/gimp_base.svg" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://www.freewear.org/images/release_candidates/gimp_base.svg</a><br><br>Anyway we've been talking about it and we think you guys could do it
<br>better. How about a little competition?
<br><br>If you're willing, we can setup a competition so you can send me your
<br>designs to my email or to this list. Then I'd setup a little poll to
<br>vote for the best designs, and the winner design would get sold at
<br>Freewear.
<br><br>Rewards for the winner: two free T-shirts (one with his design, and
<br>another one (s)he likes from our catalog), and a special mention in
<br>the T-shirt page with a link to his blog/gallery/portfolio if he
<br>wants.
<br><br>The design constraints are imposed by the screen-printing technique: 3
<br>colors per design (we could print more, but we'd rather avoid it as
<br>the T-shirt would be more expensive: a 2 or 3 colors T-shirt is 16€
<br>and a 4 colors one is 18€), no gradients, no too small details. If we
<br>have to tune the winner design to make it printable we'll contact with
<br>the designer.
<br><br>We'd like to have the T-shirt ready for Christmas, so the deadlines would be:
<br>Design: from yesterday to November the 22nd
<br>Poll: from the 33rd to the 30th.
<br>Then, we'd see if the winning design needs some tunning, and then we'd
<br>publish and print it.
<br><br>Hope you like the idea, we're open to suggestions.
<br><br>Regards,
<br>Ismael
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<br><br>But I've set GIMP preferences Default Image and Image Size in mm, and
<br>Default Grid in mm.
<br><br>If I do File | New, image is displayed with mm units n status bar.
<br><br>Why doesn't that happen for an image created
<br>from a template created from my script?
<br><br>Is there some other preference I should change?
<br><br><br>> On Sun, 2009-11-01 at 18:38 +0000, Alan Campbell wrote:
<br>> > I'm trying to get a script to generate an image with default
<br>units
<br>> > (as displayed in status bar at bottom of image window)
<br>> > to be mm instead of pixels. My script does
<br>
<br>> The units displayed in the status bar are the image's display
<br>units. The
<br>> display unit is different from the image unit and it can only be
<br>changed
<br>> by the user, not by a script.
<br>
<br>> Sven
<br><br><br><br>Yours,
<br><br>Alan Campbell
<br>BRIGHTON, UK
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<br>be shortened by at least one instruction
<br>-- from which, by induction, one can
<br>deduce that every program can be reduced to
<br>one instruction which doesn't work.
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<br>Can I use it in GIMP. Thanks. Arthur
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<br>> Hi,
<br>>
<br>> as some of you may already have noticed, there's a problem with
<br>> www.gimp.org and ircd.gimp.org. Both hosts are currently unreachable.
<br>> As far as I know, both services run on the same machine, so it isn't
<br>> surprising that both are not available.
<br>>
<br>It's back:)
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<br><br>as some of you may already have noticed, there's a problem with
<br>www.gimp.org and ircd.gimp.org. Both hosts are currently unreachable.
<br>As far as I know, both services run on the same machine, so it isn't
<br>surprising that both are not available.
<br><br>We don't yet know what's causing this (although we've planted some
<br>rumors to spare everyone the need to come up with their own).
<br><br>I'm currently waiting for feedback from the server admin.
<br><br><br>Regards,
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<br><br>as some of you may already have noticed, there's a problem with
<br>www.gimp.org and ircd.gimp.org. Both hosts are currently unreachable.
<br>As far as I know, both services run on the same machine, so it isn't
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<br><br>I'm currently waiting for feedback from the server admin.
<br><br><br>Regards,
<br>Michael
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<br>> Patrick Horgan wrote:
<br>>> One hand on the tablet and the other on the pen doesn't leave a third
<br>>> for the keyboard.
<br>>
<br>> sounds a bit like holding your mouse mat whilst using the mouse to stop
<br>> it sliding around.
<br><br>Mouse is relative so moving mouse mat is a use issue. However, tablet
<br>is an absolute device so holding the tablet is a bit different.
<br>If you draw on a paper, you turn te paper to get your strokes to run
<br>conveniently for your hand. Thats something I do holding my tablet. I
<br>tilt my head and turn the tablet to keep the alignment. My tablet
<br>positioning tends to depend on what I do. Scetching, creative painting
<br>etc, I hold my tablet and align it as I need with the screen. Just
<br>using as a mouse, I set it down next to my laptop and keep my other
<br>hand on the keyboard, but I do that only about 20% of the time. Mouse
<br>is much more convenient for such interaction.
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<div class='shrinkable-quote'><br>> Sven Neumann wrote:
<br>>> Hi,
<br>>>
<br>>> On Sun, 2009-11-01 at 09:29 -0800, Patrick Horgan wrote:
<br>>>
<br>>>
<br>>>> Yea!!! Seems like an obvious idea now that I've heard it that would
<br>>>> make tablet user's lifes more happy:) Although, if you think about why
<br>>>> I would be wanting to get rid of the selection, I'm probably going to
<br>>>> have to scale or select another layer or something that is also less
<br>>>> than optional. If we could have two little buttons it would be much
<br>>>> better. The first, the aforementioned selection canceler, and the
<br>>>> second, something that does the same toggle as hitting <TAB>. I love
<br>>>> the <TAB> keyboard shortcut, but to use it I usually have to set down my
<br>>>> tablet and reach over to the keyboard, which breaks the flow.
<br>>>>
<br>>>
<br>>> I wonder why you need both hands on the tablet. The pros that I have
<br>>> seen working with GIMP always had one hand on the keyboard and the other
<br>>> hand holding the tablet pen. I don't want to offend you in any way, I
<br>>> just would like to understand why using the tablet and the keyboard at
<br>>> the same time is not an option for you.
<br>>>
<br>> One hand on the tablet and the other on the pen doesn't leave a third
<br>> for the keyboard. Have to set down the tablet or the pen, and since I
<br>> usually use my left hand for <TAB>, and for the tablet, it's the tablet
<br>> that's set down. I have the tablet, a wacom, in my left hand. I
<br>> imagine that I could set the tablet down and still use it, but it
<br>> doesn't feel right. Maybe if I had a bigger tablet? The keyboard goes
<br>> up to the edge of the desk, where would I put the tablet but holding
<br>> it? You've really confused me Sven. My insecure side says maybe I'm
<br>> using my tablet wrong? But seriously holding it works like holding a
<br>> tablet for me--it's natural.
<br>>
<br>> Patrick
</div><br>sounds a bit like holding your mouse mat whilst using the mouse to stop
<br>it sliding around.
<br><br>I would suggest finding a _hardware_ solution to freeing up the other
<br>hand rather than forfeiting use of the keyboard.
<br><br>regard.
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Sven Neumann wrote:
<blockquote cite="mid:1257097768.7989.51.camel@bender" type="cite">
<pre wrap="">Hi,
On Sun, 2009-11-01 at 09:29 -0800, Patrick Horgan wrote:
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">Yea!!! Seems like an obvious idea now that I've heard it that would
make tablet user's lifes more happy:) Although, if you think about why
I would be wanting to get rid of the selection, I'm probably going to
have to scale or select another layer or something that is also less
than optional. If we could have two little buttons it would be much
better. The first, the aforementioned selection canceler, and the
second, something that does the same toggle as hitting <TAB>. I love
the <TAB> keyboard shortcut, but to use it I usually have to set down my
tablet and reach over to the keyboard, which breaks the flow.
</pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->
I wonder why you need both hands on the tablet. The pros that I have
seen working with GIMP always had one hand on the keyboard and the other
hand holding the tablet pen. I don't want to offend you in any way, I
just would like to understand why using the tablet and the keyboard at
the same time is not an option for you.
</pre>
</blockquote>
One hand on the tablet and the other on the pen doesn't leave a third
for the keyboard. Have to set down the tablet or the pen, and since I
usually use my left hand for <TAB>, and for the tablet, it's the
tablet that's set down. I have the tablet, a wacom, in my left hand.
I imagine that I could set the tablet down and still use it, but it
doesn't feel right. Maybe if I had a bigger tablet? The keyboard goes
up to the edge of the desk, where would I put the tablet but holding
it? You've really confused me Sven. My insecure side says maybe I'm
using my tablet wrong? But seriously holding it works like holding a
tablet for me--it's natural.<br>
<br>
Patrick<br>
<blockquote cite="mid:1257097768.7989.51.camel@bender" type="cite">
<pre wrap="">
Sven
</pre>
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<br>> Christopher Howard-3 wrote:
<br>>> Its about having a product you aren't afraid to advertise. ..... As soon
<br>>> as I say "GIMP," you can see
<br>>> the doubt on their faces, because they associate the word with being
<br>>> weak or lame.
<br>>
<br>> I agree with this. Many people shy away from using products that aren't
<br>> mainstream, and have little to do with (or knowledge of) open source
<br>> software alternatives. There is nothing about the current name that
<br>> inspires confidence or denotes competence.
<br>>
<br>> I think that the time to change the name would be when a release comes out
<br>> that has an option to run in a single window. This is a major change that
<br>> people have requested for some time and this new configuration is sure to be
<br>> discussed widely on the internet. That version could be called something
<br>> like "Gimp+". Over time this might become shortened in blogs, forums, etc.
<br>> to "G+", and then a later major release could use that as the name. The
<br>> whole time, Wilber the mascot would remain basically the same to provide
<br>> continuity. I'm no ad wizard so I don't claim this is the best naming
<br>> strategy, but I think it provides an example of how the rebranding process
<br>> could go.
</div></div>If the devels ever did come over to the other side on this issue, the
<br>coolest way to go about picking a new name would be a contest. For
<br>example, have a web page where people suggest a name or vote on a list
<br>of names. Then the devs could pick from the top 5.
<br><br>Imagine the publicity and recognition the project would get the moment
<br>word got out about the contest! It would be on every blog and news site
<br>in the FOSS universe!
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<br>python skripts.
<br><br>The error: Sorry the program "*.py" closed unexpectedly.
<br><br>The skripts-layerfx,contactsheet and btn4ws.
<br><br>Any help?
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<br>done a thorough test but, it seems to me works fine, the pressure sensitivity
<br>feature also works.
<br><br>> I want to know if wacom bamboo pen tablet (the one that costs only $69)
<br>works
<br>>well with GIMP. Im using windows xp.
<br>>
<br>>thanks
<br>>
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<br><br>> I wonder why you need both hands on the tablet. The pros that I have
<br>> seen working with GIMP always had one hand on the keyboard and the other
<br>> hand holding the tablet pen. I don't want to offend you in any way, I
<br>> just would like to understand why using the tablet and the keyboard at
<br>> the same time is not an option for you.
<br><br>After some of these replies, just wanted to say that this describes
<br>*exactly* how I work. In addition to the actual drawing/editing I
<br>also need to track email and web pages, so I need to be able to jump
<br>between kb+pad and full kb easily (pretty much just drop the pen into
<br>my lap and start typing).
<br><br>I'd like to ask the folks who do not keep a hand on the keyboard: how
<br>do you save files? How do you enter text into GIMP? Do you not use
<br>modifier keys when selecting/drawing? I find that just about
<br>everything I do (in any drawing program) requires both hands - but I
<br>would like to hear more about how others work.
<br><br>Thanks,
<br>Chris
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<br><br>> I frequently use The GIMP for photo-editing work and I am absolutely lost
<br>> without it. Could someone help me out here? Thanks.
<br><br>Go to your user profile directory (click on your username in Start Menu)
<br>and delete or rename the .gimp-2.6 folder (and if you have any older
<br>.gimp-2.x folders, delete them, too), then try running GIMP again.
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<br><br>peter sikking wrote:
<br>> what I am missing is a direct way to end the selection state.
<br><br>another thought:
<br>when selection masks get disposed frequently, this points at possible
<br>improvements in other places, IMHO.
<br><br>Stroking circles as an example: the task is finished once the circle
<br>is visible -- in my mind, but not so for GIMP, as i have to get rid of the
<br>selection afterwards. Genuine geometry tools shurely work better here than
<br>throw-away selection masks.
<br><br>Complex selection masks, on the other hand, like a hair cut-out, tend to survive in
<br>form of layer masks or alpha channels.
<br><br>I'm not really shure: are there other common workflows which build selection masks
<br>that are more complex than just a rectangle and still dispose the mask afterwards?
<br><br><br>regards,
<br>yahvuu
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<br><br>> I wonder why you need both hands on the tablet. The pros that I have
<br>> seen working with GIMP always had one hand on the keyboard and the other
<br>> hand holding the tablet pen. I don't want to offend you in any way, I
<br>> just would like to understand why using the tablet and the keyboard at
<br>> the same time is not an option for you.
<br><br>This workflow may be ok with certain types of uses/users (for example
<br>photo retouching with a small tablet), but personally when I'm drawing
<br>(main thing I use the tablet for with GIMP) I want, as when I draw on
<br>paper, to keep the tablet aligned to my main monitor and keep a proper
<br>body/arm position.
<br><br>As I'm right-handed, the only places for the keyboard to be would be in
<br>my case between the monitor and the tablet (where I actually keep it) or
<br>to the left of the tablet. So the ESC key would be in either cases too
<br>far away and require tiring and unnecessary stretching of my left arm.
<br><br>Most tablets have usually a few (4-8 or more depending on the model,
<br>some may have less) shortcut keys and a touch ring/strip. So the left
<br>hand (or right hand for LH users) is usually not just lying on the
<br>tablet doing nothing but has access to a limited set of quickly and
<br>comfortably reachable keys. It's true that one of them could be mapped
<br>to the "select none" option, but depending on the user and/or tablet,
<br>this shortcut might have to be sacrificed for other, more used, ones.
<br><br>All this without even talking of tablet PCs, tablet monitors, or users
<br>who use their tablet on their lap like if they were drawing on a
<br>sketchbook. In these cases keyboard access can be rather inconvenient
<br>and thus limited to the minimum possible.
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<br>Gimp 2.6/ UFRAW 0.15). I've spent hours trying to find a solution and may not
<br>see the forest for the trees. Any help is appreciated - I am "just a user" and
<br>have no knowledge of codes: please keep it simple.
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