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Dear Admin
 
       I use triangulate under GMT 4.0 to form a triangulation with command line:
 
                triangulate data.txt -M -R96/112/40/54 -Jm0.5 |psxy  -M -R96/112/40/54 -Jm0.5  -W20/20/250 > tri.ps
 
      while under MATLAB 7(R14),I also get a triangulation with command line
 
               tri = delaunay(L,B)
              triplot(tri,L,B, 'red')
 
     and I am confused while there exist some difference between the outputs.
     Can you tell me how to use the parameters to get the same output? Thanks

    attached file is the data.txt and the output pictures I clip .

 
Best regards
 
Xiao Genru


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Re: GMT Delauny triangulate

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Hi

trying to reproduce Xiao's problems using his attached data file and
specified command I get the error message:

me:~> triangulate: GMT SYNTAX ERROR.  Must specify -R, -I, -G for gridding

which I do not really understand based on the information on the man
page. I'm running GMT 4.4.0, should I upgrade (i.e. is this a bug and
has it been taken care, or am I just missing something)?

BTW. In the last example of the man page I assume that:
"triangulate samples.xyz -M -R-100/-90/30/34 -JM15c | psxy -M
OPR(R)-100/-90/30/34 -JM15c -W0.5p -B1 > network.ps"
should read:
"triangulate samples.xyz -M -R-100/-90/30/34 -JM15c | psxy -M
-R-100/-90/30/34 -JM15c -W0.5p -B1 > network.ps"

A suggestion/hint for Xiao:
You might want to make sure that the projection is the same when using
matlab and gmt to do delaunay trinagulation (matlabs equivalent would be
-Jx in gmt i guess). For one thing its hard to see the differences
between your figures from a visual inspection if the projections differ.
My money is also on that the difference in projection is part of the
difference in produced triangulation, to cite the man page
                   "If a map projection  (give  -R  and  -J) is chosen
then it is applied before the triangulation is calculated."
which I would interpret as change projection = change resulting
triangulation

regP

Genru Xiao wrote:

> Dear Admin
>  
>        I use triangulate under GMT 4.0 to form a triangulation with
> command line:
>  
>                 *triangulate data.txt -M -R96/112/40/54 -Jm0.5 |psxy
> -M -R96/112/40/54 -Jm0.5  -W20/20/250 > tri.ps <http://tri.ps/>*
> **
>       while under MATLAB 7(R14),I also get a triangulation with
> command line
>  
>                *tri = delaunay(L,B)
>               triplot(tri,L,B, 'red')*
> **
>      and I am confused while there exist some difference between the
> outputs.
>      Can you tell me how to use the parameters to get the same output?
> Thanks
>
>     attached file is the data.txt and the output pictures I clip .
>
>  
> Best regards
>  
> Xiao Genru
> *
> *
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Re: GMT Delauny triangulate

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Hi Xiao,
Using your data and script I obtain the attached figure,
I use GMT4.5.1 last version on fedora 11.

Cheers


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Quoting "Genru Xiao" <xiaogenru@...>:

>  Dear Admin
>
>        I use triangulate under GMT 4.0 to form a triangulation with command
> line:
>
>                 *triangulate data.txt -M -R96/112/40/54 -Jm0.5 |psxy  -M
> -R96/112/40/54 -Jm0.5  -W20/20/250 > tri.ps*
> **
>       while under MATLAB 7(R14),I also get a triangulation with command line
>
>                *tri = delaunay(L,B)
>               triplot(tri,L,B, 'red')*
> **
>      and I am confused while there exist some difference between the
> outputs.
>      Can you tell me how to use the parameters to get the same output?
> Thanks
>
>     attached file is the data.txt and the output pictures I clip .
>
> Best regards
>
> Xiao Genru
> *
> *
>
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> Beijing 100029, China
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Re: GMT Delauny triangulate

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hi
   thanks you,  the figure is same ,should I update my GMT to 4.5.1 ,  is it the algorithm of GMT 4.1 and 4.5 adopted different , does there have detail documents?

2009/10/22 Milton P. Plasencia Linares <mplasencia@...>

Hi Xiao,
Using your data and script I obtain the attached figure,
I use GMT4.5.1 last version on fedora 11.

Cheers


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Quoting "Genru Xiao" <xiaogenru@...>:

 Dear Admin

      I use triangulate under GMT 4.0 to form a triangulation with command
line:

               *triangulate data.txt -M -R96/112/40/54 -Jm0.5 |psxy  -M
-R96/112/40/54 -Jm0.5  -W20/20/250 > tri.ps*
**
     while under MATLAB 7(R14),I also get a triangulation with command line

              *tri = delaunay(L,B)
             triplot(tri,L,B, 'red')*
**
    and I am confused while there exist some difference between the
outputs.
    Can you tell me how to use the parameters to get the same output?
Thanks

   attached file is the data.txt and the output pictures I clip .

Best regards

Xiao Genru
*
*

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Re: GMT Delauny triangulate

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Hi,
Ok, update your GMT version, i not have detail, but you can see
man or web page or the source code, from 4.1 to 4.5.1 GMT has had
significant changes, here the gurus can help you.

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Quoting "Genru Xiao" <xiaogenru@...>:

> hi
>    thanks you,  the figure is same ,should I update my GMT to 4.5.1 ,  is it
> the algorithm of GMT 4.1 and 4.5 adopted different , does there have detail
> documents?
>
> 2009/10/22 Milton P. Plasencia Linares <mplasencia@...>
>
>>
>> Hi Xiao,
>> Using your data and script I obtain the attached figure,
>> I use GMT4.5.1 last version on fedora 11.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>>
>> **********************************
>> Milton P. PLASENCIA LINARES
>>
>> Dipartimento Centro di Ricerche Sismologiche
>> Istituto Nazionale di Oceanografia e di Geofisica Sperimentale - OGS
>>
>> Borgo Grotta Gigante 42/C
>> (34010) Sgonico - TRIESTE - ITALIA
>> Tel: +39-040-2140305
>> Fax: +39-040-327307
>>
>> E-mail: mplasencia@...
>>
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>> *********************************
>>
>>
>>
>> Quoting "Genru Xiao" <xiaogenru@...>:
>>
>>    Dear Admin
>>>
>>>       I use triangulate under GMT 4.0 to form a triangulation with command
>>> line:
>>>
>>>                *triangulate data.txt -M -R96/112/40/54 -Jm0.5 |psxy  -M
>>> -R96/112/40/54 -Jm0.5  -W20/20/250 > tri.ps*
>>> **
>>>      while under MATLAB 7(R14),I also get a triangulation with command
>>> line
>>>
>>>               *tri = delaunay(L,B)
>>>              triplot(tri,L,B, 'red')*
>>> **
>>>     and I am confused while there exist some difference between the
>>> outputs.
>>>     Can you tell me how to use the parameters to get the same output?
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>    attached file is the data.txt and the output pictures I clip .
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>>
>>> Xiao Genru
>>> *
>>> *
>>>
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Re: GMT Delauny triangulate

by Joaquim Luis-2 :: Rate this Message:

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GMT has two different algorithms, Watson & Shewchuk. Which one is used is decided at compile time. Since you are using the Win version I'm nearly sure that 4.0 was compiled with Watson's while 4.5.1 is compiled with Shewchuk.
Matlab doesn't use any of those. It uses qhull. If the result is different I'm afraid there is nothing you can do to change it. Notice that you could also ask to Matworks (Matlab) why it doesn't give the same result as GMT.

Joaquim Luis

On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Genru Xiao <xiaogenru@...> wrote:
hi
   thanks you,  the figure is same ,should I update my GMT to 4.5.1 ,  is it the algorithm of GMT 4.1 and 4.5 adopted different , does there have detail documents?

2009/10/22 Milton P. Plasencia Linares <mplasencia@...>


Hi Xiao,
Using your data and script I obtain the attached figure,
I use GMT4.5.1 last version on fedora 11.

Cheers


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Istituto Nazionale di Oceanografia e di Geofisica Sperimentale - OGS

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E-mail: mplasencia@...

ASAIN (Antarctic Seismographic Argentinean Italian Network)
*********************************



Quoting "Genru Xiao" <xiaogenru@...>:

 Dear Admin

      I use triangulate under GMT 4.0 to form a triangulation with command
line:

               *triangulate data.txt -M -R96/112/40/54 -Jm0.5 |psxy  -M
-R96/112/40/54 -Jm0.5  -W20/20/250 > tri.ps*
**
     while under MATLAB 7(R14),I also get a triangulation with command line

              *tri = delaunay(L,B)
             triplot(tri,L,B, 'red')*
**
    and I am confused while there exist some difference between the
outputs.
    Can you tell me how to use the parameters to get the same output?
Thanks

   attached file is the data.txt and the output pictures I clip .

Best regards

Xiao Genru
*
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Re: GMT Delauny triangulate

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OK,I will try and if possible I will post the results .
thanks

2009/10/22 J Luis <jmfluis@...>
GMT has two different algorithms, Watson & Shewchuk. Which one is used is decided at compile time. Since you are using the Win version I'm nearly sure that 4.0 was compiled with Watson's while 4.5.1 is compiled with Shewchuk.
Matlab doesn't use any of those. It uses qhull. If the result is different I'm afraid there is nothing you can do to change it. Notice that you could also ask to Matworks (Matlab) why it doesn't give the same result as GMT.

Joaquim Luis


On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Genru Xiao <xiaogenru@...> wrote:
hi
   thanks you,  the figure is same ,should I update my GMT to 4.5.1 ,  is it the algorithm of GMT 4.1 and 4.5 adopted different , does there have detail documents?

2009/10/22 Milton P. Plasencia Linares <mplasencia@...>


Hi Xiao,
Using your data and script I obtain the attached figure,
I use GMT4.5.1 last version on fedora 11.

Cheers


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Istituto Nazionale di Oceanografia e di Geofisica Sperimentale - OGS

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(34010) Sgonico - TRIESTE - ITALIA
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Quoting "Genru Xiao" <xiaogenru@...>:

 Dear Admin

      I use triangulate under GMT 4.0 to form a triangulation with command
line:

               *triangulate data.txt -M -R96/112/40/54 -Jm0.5 |psxy  -M
-R96/112/40/54 -Jm0.5  -W20/20/250 > tri.ps*
**
     while under MATLAB 7(R14),I also get a triangulation with command line

              *tri = delaunay(L,B)
             triplot(tri,L,B, 'red')*
**
    and I am confused while there exist some difference between the
outputs.
    Can you tell me how to use the parameters to get the same output?
Thanks

   attached file is the data.txt and the output pictures I clip .

Best regards

Xiao Genru
*
*

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Re: GMT Delauny triangulate

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the following is the replied from Mathworks user group
"Damian Sheehy" <Damian.Sheehy@...> wrote in message <hbpq2g$d3u$1@...>...
> Xiao,
>
> If the topology of the triangulation you are plotting is different, then it
> is probably due to degeneracy.
> Delaunay triangulations are not unique in the presence of degeneracies.
>
> With respect to 2D triangulations, it means that if you have 4 cocircular
> points in the triangulation
>
> the topology can either be like this ;
>
>
>
> +-----+
>

> |  \       |
>
> |    \     |
> |      \   |
> |        \ |
> +-----+
>
> Or like this;
>
> +-----+
>
> |        / |
>
> |      /   |
> |    /     |
> |  /       |
> +-----+
>
> Both are valid Delaunay triangulations.
>
> You can spot these degeneracies as follows;
> tri = delaunay(L,B)
> triplot(tri,L,B)  % Blue
> hold on
> voronoi(L,B,tri, 'r')
> hold off
>
>
> In the figure look for vertices in the (red) Voronoi diagram that have 4 or
> more edges emanating from the vertex.
> This may be a degenerate vertex and the corresponding triangles are likely
> to have different topology.
>
> If this does not explain the differences you are seeing let me know.
>
>
> Damian
>


 
2009/10/22 Genru Xiao <xiaogenru@...>
OK,I will try and if possible I will post the results .
thanks

2009/10/22 J Luis <jmfluis@...>

GMT has two different algorithms, Watson & Shewchuk. Which one is used is decided at compile time. Since you are using the Win version I'm nearly sure that 4.0 was compiled with Watson's while 4.5.1 is compiled with Shewchuk.
Matlab doesn't use any of those. It uses qhull. If the result is different I'm afraid there is nothing you can do to change it. Notice that you could also ask to Matworks (Matlab) why it doesn't give the same result as GMT.

Joaquim Luis


On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Genru Xiao <xiaogenru@...> wrote:
hi
   thanks you,  the figure is same ,should I update my GMT to 4.5.1 ,  is it the algorithm of GMT 4.1 and 4.5 adopted different , does there have detail documents?

2009/10/22 Milton P. Plasencia Linares <mplasencia@...>


Hi Xiao,
Using your data and script I obtain the attached figure,
I use GMT4.5.1 last version on fedora 11.

Cheers


**********************************
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Dipartimento Centro di Ricerche Sismologiche
Istituto Nazionale di Oceanografia e di Geofisica Sperimentale - OGS

Borgo Grotta Gigante 42/C
(34010) Sgonico - TRIESTE - ITALIA
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Quoting "Genru Xiao" <xiaogenru@...>:

 Dear Admin

      I use triangulate under GMT 4.0 to form a triangulation with command
line:

               *triangulate data.txt -M -R96/112/40/54 -Jm0.5 |psxy  -M
-R96/112/40/54 -Jm0.5  -W20/20/250 > tri.ps*
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     while under MATLAB 7(R14),I also get a triangulation with command line

              *tri = delaunay(L,B)
             triplot(tri,L,B, 'red')*
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    and I am confused while there exist some difference between the
outputs.
    Can you tell me how to use the parameters to get the same output?
Thanks

   attached file is the data.txt and the output pictures I clip .

Best regards

Xiao Genru
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Beijing 100029, China
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Tel.  86-10-62009178
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Dr. Genru Xiao
GPS Center of Institute of Geology,China Earthquake Administration
Beijing 100029, China
Tel.  86-10-62009178
xiaogenru@...   xgr541@...
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GPS Center of Institute of Geology,China Earthquake Administration
Beijing 100029, China
Tel.  86-10-62009178
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