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GNUstep dev environment
by HalypH
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Hi all,
I'm newbie in GNUstep (and in Objective-C). What is the best dev environment for GNUstep? I'm using text editor (Vim) and console build, plus 'insight' as gdb front-end. But it doesn't like fast development environment for me. Could you please share your better practice? Thanks |
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Re: GNUstep dev environment
by TMC
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Project Center is a native IDE. You can set Project Center to use vim instead of its built-in editor. You can download the latest stable version (0.5.0, from October 2008) at
http://gnustep.org/resources/sources.html and look for the development tools section. --Tycho Martin Clendenny
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Re: GNUstep dev environment
by Gürkan Sengün-2
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> I'm newbie in GNUstep (and in Objective-C). What is the best dev environment > for GNUstep? I'm using text editor (Vim) and console build, plus 'insight' > as gdb front-end. But it doesn't like fast development environment for me. The speed gain is done using the graphical interface builder (Gorm.app), and by the greatly slim designed API, which allows you to achive all you want with much less code: Quote of the Booz-Allen Study * took 100+ senior programmers and trained them on NeXTstep, then asked them to write the same app on both NeXT and their previous system. * First application written was written two to five times faster. * Savings were 90 % * 83 % less lines of code in the NEXTstep version * 82 % said NeXTstep was better in ALL categories * It isn't faster to code on NeXTstep; you just have to write less of it. The revolution is "getting rid of software". from: http://livecd.gnustep.org/ Another big advantage, write once, compile everywhere. For example: http://www.opentrack.ch/ Yours, Guerkan > Could you please share your better practice? > > Thanks _______________________________________________ Discuss-gnustep mailing list Discuss-gnustep@... http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep |
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Re: GNUstep dev environment
by Richard Frith-Macdonald-2
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On 8 Nov 2009, at 21:19, HalypH wrote: > > Hi all, > I'm newbie in GNUstep (and in Objective-C). What is the best dev > environment > for GNUstep? I'm using text editor (Vim) and console build, plus > 'insight' > as gdb front-end. But it doesn't like fast development environment > for me. I use vim in a terminal window for editing and I use gdb from the command line too. That's fast for me (I don't really like IDEs), though you can use an IDE such as ProjectCenter.app if that's your preference. I guess you would say that I'm a 'power user' (ie someone familiar with the tools), so a command line environment will probably always provide more control and flexibility than a gui environment IDE can. If you want to use GNUstep for GUI development, then I'd recommend using Gorm.app (to design/implement your gui). If you want to design/build themes, then you should use Thematic.app If you want to write server applications, then you don't need any special tools. _______________________________________________ Discuss-gnustep mailing list Discuss-gnustep@... http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep |
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Re: GNUstep dev environment
by Riccardo Mottola-4
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HalypH wrote:
> Hi all, > I'm newbie in GNUstep (and in Objective-C). What is the best dev environment > for GNUstep? I'm using text editor (Vim) and console build, plus 'insight' > as gdb front-end. But it doesn't like fast development environment for me. > > Could you please share your better practice? > I use ProjectCenter for almost all my GNUstep application projects. If you are brave enough you can try the current SVN version (obtainable as a nightly tarball) which also supports gdb integration. But be prepared that it is not a release yet and that the project format changed: your old projects will be properly converted, but the new ones are only readable by the new version. Cheers, Riccardo _______________________________________________ Discuss-gnustep mailing list Discuss-gnustep@... http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep |
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Re: GNUstep dev environment
by Gürkan Sengün-2
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On 11/10/09 20:08, Michael Thaler wrote:
> On Tuesday 10 November 2009, discuss-gnustep-request@... wrote: > >> The speed gain is done using the graphical interface builder (Gorm.app), >> and by the greatly slim designed API, which allows you to achive all you >> want with much less code: >> >> Quote of the Booz-Allen Study >> >> * took 100+ senior programmers and trained them on NeXTstep, then >> asked them to write the same app on both NeXT and their previous system. >> * First application written was written two to five times faster. >> * Savings were 90 % >> * 83 % less lines of code in the NEXTstep version >> * 82 % said NeXTstep was better in ALL categories >> * It isn't faster to code on NeXTstep; you just have to write less of >> it. The revolution is "getting rid of software". > > When was this study done? Openstep/GNUstep/Cocoa are certainly a good I guess around 1992. http://www.paullynch.org/NeXTSTEP/Savoy.1992.htmld/ > framework by todays standards, but I really doubt that a GNUstep application > will have 83% less lines of code compared to, say, one written in Qt or with > .Net or Scala with Scala/JFC class libraries. Actually GNUstep is missing lots > of things that e.g. Qt offers, therefore you will probably write more code for > complex application. I don't think so. > Michael Guerkan _______________________________________________ Discuss-gnustep mailing list Discuss-gnustep@... http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep |
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