GPSDRIVE can't communicate with my globalsat BU-353

[Hervé Gilibert-2]

My config:
Dell inspiron mini 9, Ubuntu 8.04.
USB GPS Globalsat BU-353
Gpsdrive 2.10 pre 4-1 and GPSD 2.36-2 installed from universe repository
using synaptic.

GPSdrive says "No GPS used"
When I telnet localhost 2947 I get:
$ sudo telnet localhost 2947
Trying 127.0.0.1...
telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
GPSDRIVE is launched using: gpsdrive -S -q -M pda -g 1024x600
GPSD is installed but not running:
gilibert@gilibert:~$ ps -edf | grep gpsd
gilibert  6652     1  9 00:01 ?        00:02:56 gpsdrive -S -q -M pda -g
1024x600
I thought GPSD was launched by gpsdrive ?
Thanks in advance for any clue for newby.
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[Ross Scanlon]

On Fri, 03 Apr 2009 11:37:37 +0200
Herv_ Gilibert <Herve.Gilibert@...> wrote:

> My config:
> Dell inspiron mini 9, Ubuntu 8.04.
> USB GPS Globalsat BU-353
> Gpsdrive 2.10 pre 4-1 and GPSD 2.36-2 installed from universe repository
> using synaptic.
 

> GPSdrive says "No GPS used"
> When I telnet localhost 2947 I get:
> $ sudo telnet localhost 2947
> Trying 127.0.0.1...
> telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
> GPSDRIVE is launched using: gpsdrive -S -q -M pda -g 1024x600
> GPSD is installed but not running:
> gilibert@gilibert:~$ ps -edf | grep gpsd
> gilibert  6652     1  9 00:01 ?        00:02:56 gpsdrive -S -q -M pda -g
> 1024x600
> I thought GPSD was launched by gpsdrive ?
> Thanks in advance for any clue for newby.

gpsd is not launched by gpsdrive.

Have a read of the wiki on installing gpsdrive on Ubuntu 8.04 in particular the section on gpsd.

http://apps.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/gpsdrive/index.php?title=8.04_manual

Cheers
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[Wayne Topa-3]

� wrote:

> My config:
> Dell inspiron mini 9, Ubuntu 8.04.
> USB GPS Globalsat BU-353
> Gpsdrive 2.10 pre 4-1 and GPSD 2.36-2 installed from universe repository
> using synaptic.
>
> GPSdrive says "No GPS used"
> When I telnet localhost 2947 I get:
> $ sudo telnet localhost 2947
> Trying 127.0.0.1...
> telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
> GPSDRIVE is launched using: gpsdrive -S -q -M pda -g 1024x600
> GPSD is installed but not running:
> gilibert@gilibert:~$ ps -edf | grep gpsd
> gilibert  6652     1  9 00:01 ?        00:02:56 gpsdrive -S -q -M pda -g
> 1024x600
> I thought GPSD was launched by gpsdrive ?
> Thanks in advance for any clue for newby.

I have gpsd running and gpsdrive can't find it.  I tried roadmap and it
does find the gps on dev/ttyUSB7 and shows I have 8 Sats.

I can no longer find a way to configure the GPS in gpsdrive do guess
that it does not auto detect or just wasn't programmed to expect that
many USB ports.  I found an option in an old .gpsdriverc
"serialdevice = /dev/ttyUSB0".  I added that to the current rc file,
with ttyUSB7 of course, but that didn't help.

BTW the reason for the hight usb port is that I am testing this on a
desktop.

Wayne
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[Joerg Ostertag (gpsdrive Tettnang/Germany)]

On Freitag 03 April 2009, Wayne Topa wrote:

> � wrote:
> > My config:
> > Dell inspiron mini 9, Ubuntu 8.04.
> > USB GPS Globalsat BU-353
> > Gpsdrive 2.10 pre 4-1 and GPSD 2.36-2 installed from universe repository
> > using synaptic.
> >
> > GPSdrive says "No GPS used"
> > When I telnet localhost 2947 I get:
> > $ sudo telnet localhost 2947
> > Trying 127.0.0.1...
> > telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
> > GPSDRIVE is launched using: gpsdrive -S -q -M pda -g 1024x600
> > GPSD is installed but not running:
> > gilibert@gilibert:~$ ps -edf | grep gpsd
> > gilibert  6652     1  9 00:01 ?        00:02:56 gpsdrive -S -q -M pda -g
> > 1024x600
> > I thought GPSD was launched by gpsdrive ?
> > Thanks in advance for any clue for newby.
>
> I have gpsd running and gpsdrive can't find it.  I tried roadmap and it
> does find the gps on dev/ttyUSB7 and shows I have 8 Sats.
>
> I can no longer find a way to configure the GPS in gpsdrive do guess
> that it does not auto detect or just wasn't programmed to expect that
> many USB ports.  I found an option in an old .gpsdriverc
> "serialdevice = /dev/ttyUSB0".  I added that to the current rc file,
> with ttyUSB7 of course, but that didn't help.

It slightly sounds to me like you are probably mixing up
GPS-device-file(dev/gps) and /usr/sbin/gpsd. You need a seperate Daemon
called gpsd (to connect to. This Daemon itself then connects to your
gps-device-file which itself is connected to your GPS by the kernel..
The old GpsDrive versions had direct connection inside AND had an automatic
gpsd strting mechanism. This is no longer inside GpsDrive and has to be
configured/started by the system outside gpsdrive.


If you are doing
   > > $ sudo telnet localhost 2947
   > > Trying 127.0.0.1.. .
   > > telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
and getting "no connection", you either have gpsd not running or it's
configured different than you thougt.

> BTW the reason for the hight usb port is that I am testing this on a
> desktop.


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[Hervé Gilibert-2]

Ross Scanlon a écrit :

> On Fri, 03 Apr 2009 11:37:37 +0200
> Herv_ Gilibert <Herve.Gilibert@...> wrote:
>
>  
>> My config:
>> Dell inspiron mini 9, Ubuntu 8.04.
>> USB GPS Globalsat BU-353
>> Gpsdrive 2.10 pre 4-1 and GPSD 2.36-2 installed from universe repository
>> using synaptic.
>>    
>  
>  
>> GPSdrive says "No GPS used"
>> When I telnet localhost 2947 I get:
>> $ sudo telnet localhost 2947
>> Trying 127.0.0.1...
>> telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
>> GPSDRIVE is launched using: gpsdrive -S -q -M pda -g 1024x600
>> GPSD is installed but not running:
>> gilibert@gilibert:~$ ps -edf | grep gpsd
>> gilibert  6652     1  9 00:01 ?        00:02:56 gpsdrive -S -q -M pda -g
>> 1024x600
>> I thought GPSD was launched by gpsdrive ?
>> Thanks in advance for any clue for newby.
>>    
>
>
> gpsd is not launched by gpsdrive.
>
> Have a read of the wiki on installing gpsdrive on Ubuntu 8.04 in particular the section on gpsd.
>
> http://apps.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/gpsdrive/index.php?title=8.04_manual
>
> Cheers
> Ross
>
>  

OK Ross, many thanks for this URL.
All is OK now after running GPSD by hand.
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[Wayne Topa-3]

Joerg Ostertag (gpsdrive Tettnang/Germany) wrote:
> On Freitag 03 April 2009, Wayne Topa wrote:
>> � wrote:

>> I can no longer find a way to configure the GPS in gpsdrive do guess
>> that it does not auto detect or just wasn't programmed to expect that
>> many USB ports.  I found an option in an old .gpsdriverc
>> "serialdevice = /dev/ttyUSB0".  I added that to the current rc file,
>> with ttyUSB7 of course, but that didn't help.
>
> It slightly sounds to me like you are probably mixing up
> GPS-device-file(dev/gps) and /usr/sbin/gpsd. You need a seperate Daemon
> called gpsd (to connect to. This Daemon itself then connects to your
> gps-device-file which itself is connected to your GPS by the kernel..
> The old GpsDrive versions had direct connection inside AND had an automatic
> gpsd strting mechanism. This is no longer inside GpsDrive and has to be
> configured/started by the system outside gpsdrive.
>

Let me try this again.

gpsd is running
The "roadnav" application finds the GPS and reports 8 Sat's found and my
Latitude and Longitude.  The port it reports the GPS using is /dev/ttyUSB7.

If I modify /etc/default/gpsd like so
DEVICES="/dev/ttyUSB7"
gpsdrive does see the gps as well.

With gpsdrive running if I do "sudo telnet localhost 2947"
it displays "Escape character is '^['" and then times out.

Gpsdrive continues to run and the map downloaded for my location works.

So it seems that the default parameters for gpsd, DEVICES=/dev/ttyUSB?,
have to be set for gpsdrive to work.  I tried setting
DEVICES=ttyUSB[0-7], and DEVICES="/dev/ttyUSB0, /dev/ttyUSB7" but that
did not work.

Wayne
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[Ross Scanlon]

>
> Let me try this again.
>
> gpsd is running
> The "roadnav" application finds the GPS and reports 8 Sat's found and my
> Latitude and Longitude.  The port it reports the GPS using is
> /dev/ttyUSB7.
>
> If I modify /etc/default/gpsd like so
> DEVICES="/dev/ttyUSB7"
> gpsdrive does see the gps as well.
>
> With gpsdrive running if I do "sudo telnet localhost 2947"
> it displays "Escape character is '^['" and then times out.
>
> Gpsdrive continues to run and the map downloaded for my location works.
>
> So it seems that the default parameters for gpsd, DEVICES=/dev/ttyUSB?,
> have to be set for gpsdrive to work.  I tried setting
> DEVICES=ttyUSB[0-7], and DEVICES="/dev/ttyUSB0, /dev/ttyUSB7" but that
> did not work.
>
> Wayne
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Wayne,

Read this for correct installation of gpsd

http://apps.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/gpsdrive/index.php?title=8.04_manual

The default parameters for gpsd for device should be /dev/gps and hotplug
should automatically handle this for you.


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[Wayne Topa-3]

Ross Scanlon wrote:

>> Let me try this again.
>>
>> gpsd is running
>> The "roadnav" application finds the GPS and reports 8 Sat's found and my
>> Latitude and Longitude.  The port it reports the GPS using is
>> /dev/ttyUSB7.
>>
>> If I modify /etc/default/gpsd like so
>> DEVICES="/dev/ttyUSB7"
>> gpsdrive does see the gps as well.
>>
>> With gpsdrive running if I do "sudo telnet localhost 2947"
>> it displays "Escape character is '^['" and then times out.
>>
>> Gpsdrive continues to run and the map downloaded for my location works.
>>
>> So it seems that the default parameters for gpsd, DEVICES=/dev/ttyUSB?,
>> have to be set for gpsdrive to work.  I tried setting
>> DEVICES=ttyUSB[0-7], and DEVICES="/dev/ttyUSB0, /dev/ttyUSB7" but that
>> did not work.
>>
>> Wayne
>> Running Squeeze downloaded this morning.
>
>
> Wayne,
>
> Read this for correct installation of gpsd
>
> http://apps.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/gpsdrive/index.php?title=8.04_manual

Thanks for the link!!

> The default parameters for gpsd for device should be /dev/gps and hotplug
> should automatically handle this for you.

Well maybe it *should have*, but it didn't/doesn't.  I don't have
/dev/gps.  So I changed /etc/default/gpsd to what the  8.04_manual has
for that file. Unplugged the gps, stopped gpsd, restarted gpsd, plugged
gps in.  Ran gpspipe -r which displays one line "GPSD, R=1", and still
no /dev/gps and gpsdrive can't see the gps.

Debian Squeeze does not have a hotplug package.  It has been replaced
with udev IIRC.  So it seems, to me anyway, that the
  /etc/udev/rules.d/z60_gpsd.rules file should be creating the /dev/gps
device.  There is no reference to it in that file though or any mention
of /etc/default/gpsd.

What are other Debian Squeeze users seeing?

Switched the default/gpsd back to what I had and gpsdrive is working
again and plotting the gps which is on /dev/ttyUSB7.

The 8.04 manual instructions dit not work for setting up the databases
either.  Guess Ubuntu is a bit different the Debian Squeeze.

Thanks for your reply Ross.

Best Regards

Wayne

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[Ross Scanlon]

On Sat, 04 Apr 2009 10:25:28 -0400
Wayne Topa <linuxone@...> wrote:


> > The default parameters for gpsd for device should be /dev/gps and hotplug
> > should automatically handle this for you.
>
> Well maybe it *should have*, but it didn't/doesn't.  I don't have
> /dev/gps.  So I changed /etc/default/gpsd to what the  8.04_manual has
> for that file. Unplugged the gps, stopped gpsd, restarted gpsd, plugged
> gps in.  Ran gpspipe -r which displays one line "GPSD, R=1", and still
> no /dev/gps and gpsdrive can't see the gps.

Wayne,

My mistake I should have said udev should be handling it.

The udev rule should be something like:

SYSFS{idVendor}=="067b", SYSFS{idProduct}=="2303", SYMLINK="gps", RUN+="/lib/udev/gpsd.hotplug.wrapper"

You would have to set the idVendor and idProduct correctly this will create a symlink /dev/gps to your /dev/ttyUSBxxx


> The 8.04 manual instructions dit not work for setting up the databases
> either.  Guess Ubuntu is a bit different the Debian Squeeze.

What did not work for the databases.

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[Wayne Topa-3]

Ross Scanlon wrote:

> On Sat, 04 Apr 2009 10:25:28 -0400
> Wayne Topa <linuxone@...> wrote:
>
>
>>> The default parameters for gpsd for device should be /dev/gps and hotplug
>>> should automatically handle this for you.
>> Well maybe it *should have*, but it didn't/doesn't.  I don't have
>> /dev/gps.  So I changed /etc/default/gpsd to what the  8.04_manual has
>> for that file. Unplugged the gps, stopped gpsd, restarted gpsd, plugged
>> gps in.  Ran gpspipe -r which displays one line "GPSD, R=1", and still
>> no /dev/gps and gpsdrive can't see the gps.
>
> Wayne,
>
> My mistake I should have said udev should be handling it.
>

No Problem.  I thought uvdev had it's own hotplug pgm.  :-)

> The udev rule should be something like:
>
> SYSFS{idVendor}=="067b", SYSFS{idProduct}=="2303", SYMLINK="gps", RUN+="/lib/udev/gpsd.hotplug.wrapper"
>
This is the z60_gpsd rule
# Prolific Technology, Inc. PL2303 Serial Port
SYSFS{idVendor}=="067b", SYSFS{idProduct}=="2303", SYMLINK="gps%n",
RUN+="/lib/udev/gpsd.hotplug.wrapper"

and the related lsusb entry
Bus 006 Device 012: ID 067b:2303 Prolific Technology, Inc. PL2303 Serial
Port

That is exactly what is in the file and the gpsd.hotplug.wrapper script
does have the code doing what you describe, yet there is still no
/dev/gps.  The code from both files is:

________
----Manual say /etc/defaults/gpsd should be
  START_DAEMON="true"
DAEMON_OPTS="-n"
DEVICES="/dev/gps"
___________

___________________
--- the wrapper code
/lib/udev/gpsd.hotplug.wrapper
! /bin/sh
# $Id: gpsd.hotplug.wrapper 4669 2008-01-21 15:07:00Z esr $

#debian addition:
[ ! -r /etc/default/gpsd ] || . /etc/default/gpsd
[ "$START_DAEMON" = "true" ] || exit 0
[ "$USBAUTO" = "true" ] || exit 0
___________________


Weird huh.  Looks right except the ""$USBAUTO" = "true" ] || exit 0".
USBAUTO in *not* in the default/gpsd options mentioned in the manual
instructions.

Thanks again for the reply Ross.
Maybe the fact that I have too many usb ports (4 on one card 5 on the
other) on this box is causing this problem.

My UPS, ATT USB wireless modem, PicKit2 Programmer, external HD, and
Kodak Camera Dock don't have a problem though.  Only thing that might
mess up the works is that the ATT Modem uses ttyUSB0 through ttyUSB4
when its connected to the net.

Regard

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[Ross Scanlon]

>
>> The udev rule should be something like:
>>
>> SYSFS{idVendor}=="067b", SYSFS{idProduct}=="2303", SYMLINK="gps",
>> RUN+="/lib/udev/gpsd.hotplug.wrapper"
>>
> This is the z60_gpsd rule
> # Prolific Technology, Inc. PL2303 Serial Port
> SYSFS{idVendor}=="067b", SYSFS{idProduct}=="2303", SYMLINK="gps%n",
> RUN+="/lib/udev/gpsd.hotplug.wrapper"

If you change the SYMLINK="gps%n" to SYMLINK="gps" it should then create a
symlink /dev/gps to whatever your /dev/ttyUSBxxx is for the gps.

With "gps%n" it creates a symlink of /dev/gpsN where N is the ttyUSB
number eg /dev/gps0 where gps is on /dev/ttyUSB0 etc. It's so that it's
possible to have multiple gps attached.

> and the related lsusb entry
> Bus 006 Device 012: ID 067b:2303 Prolific Technology, Inc. PL2303 Serial
> Port
>
> That is exactly what is in the file and the gpsd.hotplug.wrapper script
> does have the code doing what you describe, yet there is still no
> /dev/gps.  The code from both files is:
>
> ________
> ----Manual say /etc/defaults/gpsd should be
>   START_DAEMON="true"
> DAEMON_OPTS="-n"
> DEVICES="/dev/gps"
> ___________
>
> ___________________
> --- the wrapper code
> /lib/udev/gpsd.hotplug.wrapper
> ! /bin/sh
> # $Id: gpsd.hotplug.wrapper 4669 2008-01-21 15:07:00Z esr $
>
> #debian addition:
> [ ! -r /etc/default/gpsd ] || . /etc/default/gpsd
> [ "$START_DAEMON" = "true" ] || exit 0
> [ "$USBAUTO" = "true" ] || exit 0
> ___________________
>
>
> Weird huh.  Looks right except the ""$USBAUTO" = "true" ] || exit 0".
> USBAUTO in *not* in the default/gpsd options mentioned in the manual
> instructions.
>
> Thanks again for the reply Ross.
> Maybe the fact that I have too many usb ports (4 on one card 5 on the
> other) on this box is causing this problem.
>
> My UPS, ATT USB wireless modem, PicKit2 Programmer, external HD, and
> Kodak Camera Dock don't have a problem though.  Only thing that might
> mess up the works is that the ATT Modem uses ttyUSB0 through ttyUSB4
> when its connected to the net.

Number of USB ports should not be a problem.


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[Paul Martin-2]

On Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 12:42:41PM +1000, Ross Scanlon wrote:

> If you change the SYMLINK="gps%n" to SYMLINK="gps" it should then create a
> symlink /dev/gps to whatever your /dev/ttyUSBxxx is for the gps.

It's no help to me, where my GPS receiver connection is via Bluetooth on
/dev/rfcomm1.

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[Wayne Topa-3]

Ross Scanlon wrote:

>>> The udev rule should be something like:
>>>
>>> SYSFS{idVendor}=="067b", SYSFS{idProduct}=="2303", SYMLINK="gps",
>>> RUN+="/lib/udev/gpsd.hotplug.wrapper"
>>>
>> This is the z60_gpsd rule
>> # Prolific Technology, Inc. PL2303 Serial Port
>> SYSFS{idVendor}=="067b", SYSFS{idProduct}=="2303", SYMLINK="gps%n",
>> RUN+="/lib/udev/gpsd.hotplug.wrapper"
>
> If you change the SYMLINK="gps%n" to SYMLINK="gps" it should then create a
> symlink /dev/gps to whatever your /dev/ttyUSBxxx is for the gps.
>

--- Leaving the whole thread in for posterity.

Right on Ross.  The removal of the %n does create the symlink and it now
works as it should.

Thanks for all your help.  This isn't rocket Science but the problem
wasn't mentioned anywhere I looked.  Hope this helps someone else to get
there gpsdrive running.

Beat Regards, again

Wayne

> With "gps%n" it creates a symlink of /dev/gpsN where N is the ttyUSB
> number eg /dev/gps0 where gps is on /dev/ttyUSB0 etc. It's so that it's
> possible to have multiple gps attached.
>
>
>> and the related lsusb entry
>> Bus 006 Device 012: ID 067b:2303 Prolific Technology, Inc. PL2303 Serial
>> Port
>>
>> That is exactly what is in the file and the gpsd.hotplug.wrapper script
>> does have the code doing what you describe, yet there is still no
>> /dev/gps.  The code from both files is:
>>
>> ________
>> ----Manual say /etc/defaults/gpsd should be
>>   START_DAEMON="true"
>> DAEMON_OPTS="-n"
>> DEVICES="/dev/gps"
>> ___________
>>
>> ___________________
>> --- the wrapper code
>> /lib/udev/gpsd.hotplug.wrapper
>> ! /bin/sh
>> # $Id: gpsd.hotplug.wrapper 4669 2008-01-21 15:07:00Z esr $
>>
>> #debian addition:
>> [ ! -r /etc/default/gpsd ] || . /etc/default/gpsd
>> [ "$START_DAEMON" = "true" ] || exit 0
>> [ "$USBAUTO" = "true" ] || exit 0
>> ___________________
>>
>>
>> Weird huh.  Looks right except the ""$USBAUTO" = "true" ] || exit 0".
>> USBAUTO in *not* in the default/gpsd options mentioned in the manual
>> instructions.
>>
>> Thanks again for the reply Ross.
>> Maybe the fact that I have too many usb ports (4 on one card 5 on the
>> other) on this box is causing this problem.
>>
>> My UPS, ATT USB wireless modem, PicKit2 Programmer, external HD, and
>> Kodak Camera Dock don't have a problem though.  Only thing that might
>> mess up the works is that the ATT Modem uses ttyUSB0 through ttyUSB4
>> when its connected to the net.
>
> Number of USB ports should not be a problem.
>
>

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