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by Mehul Sanghvi-2 :: Rate this Message:

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Hi,

  I am posting to this mailing ince this is the only one available and
there isn't a users mailing list.

  What I am looking for is something that I can use to generate HL7
messages and write them to a file in a directory.
  The messages will then get picked up by a server process which will
do what it needs to with it.  Is this something
  that can be done using HAPI ?  I do not want to it to generate XML
files, but rather just have the HL7 message written
  directly to a file.

  The place I work at currently has a simulator that generates such
messages, but its written using Facile, and not many
people understand it that well.  It doesn't support all types of
messages, and since no one understands it well enough
it is difficult to add new message types that we may need.  The
company is a Java shop mostly.  I want to generate the
messages for the purpose of regressions testing and demonstrations of
our product.


cheers,

       mehul

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Re: Generating HL7 messages

by nksharma0624 :: Rate this Message:

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Mehul,

Hapi is not the tool to generate messages but to process them for some
use.

I would suggest Message Work Bench from HL7 would be a great start.
Google it.

Thanks.

Regards
-Niranjan.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mehul Sanghvi [mailto:mehul.sanghvi@...]
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 6:52 PM
To: hl7api-devel@...
Subject: [HAPI-devel] Generating HL7 messages

Hi,

  I am posting to this mailing ince this is the only one available and
there isn't a users mailing list.

  What I am looking for is something that I can use to generate HL7
messages and write them to a file in a directory.
  The messages will then get picked up by a server process which will
do what it needs to with it.  Is this something
  that can be done using HAPI ?  I do not want to it to generate XML
files, but rather just have the HL7 message written
  directly to a file.

  The place I work at currently has a simulator that generates such
messages, but its written using Facile, and not many
people understand it that well.  It doesn't support all types of
messages, and since no one understands it well enough
it is difficult to add new message types that we may need.  The
company is a Java shop mostly.  I want to generate the
messages for the purpose of regressions testing and demonstrations of
our product.


cheers,

       mehul

--
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Re: Generating HL7 messages

by Mithila :: Rate this Message:

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From what little I understand about hapi, you can use it to create a message.
You could probably write a custom UI to take in field values and create the type of message you want from them in a java app. You might have to look into how you would be able to save this to a file.
But remember...this will only create one message at a time and  not really 'generate' messages like Messaging Workbench does.
Good luck.


Mehul Sanghvi-2 wrote:
Hi,

  I am posting to this mailing ince this is the only one available and
there isn't a users mailing list.

  What I am looking for is something that I can use to generate HL7
messages and write them to a file in a directory.
  The messages will then get picked up by a server process which will
do what it needs to with it.  Is this something
  that can be done using HAPI ?  I do not want to it to generate XML
files, but rather just have the HL7 message written
  directly to a file.

  The place I work at currently has a simulator that generates such
messages, but its written using Facile, and not many
people understand it that well.  It doesn't support all types of
messages, and since no one understands it well enough
it is difficult to add new message types that we may need.  The
company is a Java shop mostly.  I want to generate the
messages for the purpose of regressions testing and demonstrations of
our product.


cheers,

       mehul

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Re: Generating HL7 messages

by James Agnew :: Rate this Message:

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Hi Mehul,

Just to add to the chain and agree with the others, HAPI is probably not the most friendly way of generating one-off messages if you're just looking to generate a handful of one-time messages. For that purpose, I might recommend the excellent 7edit product (http://www.7edit.com), but it's not free. Alternately, Message Workbench can probably help you, although it's a bit daunting to use.

That said, if you don't mind the learning curve, or want to automate the process of generating messages, I'm sure HAPI could be made to do what you want.

Have a look at the "creating a message" examples here for an idea of how to get started: http://hl7api.sourceforge.net/devbyexample.html

James

On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 8:52 PM, Mehul Sanghvi <mehul.sanghvi@...> wrote:
Hi,

 I am posting to this mailing ince this is the only one available and
there isn't a users mailing list.

 What I am looking for is something that I can use to generate HL7
messages and write them to a file in a directory.
 The messages will then get picked up by a server process which will
do what it needs to with it.  Is this something
 that can be done using HAPI ?  I do not want to it to generate XML
files, but rather just have the HL7 message written
 directly to a file.

 The place I work at currently has a simulator that generates such
messages, but its written using Facile, and not many
people understand it that well.  It doesn't support all types of
messages, and since no one understands it well enough
it is difficult to add new message types that we may need.  The
company is a Java shop mostly.  I want to generate the
messages for the purpose of regressions testing and demonstrations of
our product.


cheers,

      mehul

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Re: Generating HL7 messages

by Mehul Sanghvi-2 :: Rate this Message:

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James,

     Automating the process of generating messages is what I am trying
to do.  I understand that HAPI by itself will not be able to generate
the messages as such and that I will need to write some wrapper code
around it.

     Do you have an URL for Message Workbench ?   I've looked at
HL7.org and the following
http://hl7projects.hl7.nscee.edu/projects/mwb/ but doesn't seem to
have a downloadable copy of the application.

     I will check out the examples you pointed out.


cheers,

    mehul


On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 08:26, James Agnew<james@...> wrote:

> Hi Mehul,
>
> Just to add to the chain and agree with the others, HAPI is probably not the
> most friendly way of generating one-off messages if you're just looking to
> generate a handful of one-time messages. For that purpose, I might recommend
> the excellent 7edit product (http://www.7edit.com), but it's not free.
> Alternately, Message Workbench can probably help you, although it's a bit
> daunting to use.
>
> That said, if you don't mind the learning curve, or want to automate the
> process of generating messages, I'm sure HAPI could be made to do what you
> want.
>
> Have a look at the "creating a message" examples here for an idea of how to
> get started: http://hl7api.sourceforge.net/devbyexample.html
>
> James
>
> On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 8:52 PM, Mehul Sanghvi <mehul.sanghvi@...>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>>  I am posting to this mailing ince this is the only one available and
>> there isn't a users mailing list.
>>
>>  What I am looking for is something that I can use to generate HL7
>> messages and write them to a file in a directory.
>>  The messages will then get picked up by a server process which will
>> do what it needs to with it.  Is this something
>>  that can be done using HAPI ?  I do not want to it to generate XML
>> files, but rather just have the HL7 message written
>>  directly to a file.
>>
>>  The place I work at currently has a simulator that generates such
>> messages, but its written using Facile, and not many
>> people understand it that well.  It doesn't support all types of
>> messages, and since no one understands it well enough
>> it is difficult to add new message types that we may need.  The
>> company is a Java shop mostly.  I want to generate the
>> messages for the purpose of regressions testing and demonstrations of
>> our product.
>>
>>
>> cheers,
>>
>>       mehul
>>
>> --
>> Mehul N. Sanghvi
>> email: mehul.sanghvi@...
>> Ted Turner  - "Sports is like a war without the killing." -
>> http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/t/ted_turner.html
>>
>>
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Re: Generating HL7 messages

by James Agnew :: Rate this Message:

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In that case, I'd say HAPI probably is your best bet.

Here's a link to where you can download MWB though: http://sl.infoway-inforoute.ca/content/dispPage.asp?cw_page=infostand_hl7can_software_e

James

On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 8:33 AM, Mehul Sanghvi <mehul.sanghvi@...> wrote:
James,

    Automating the process of generating messages is what I am trying
to do.  I understand that HAPI by itself will not be able to generate
the messages as such and that I will need to write some wrapper code
around it.

    Do you have an URL for Message Workbench ?   I've looked at
HL7.org and the following
http://hl7projects.hl7.nscee.edu/projects/mwb/ but doesn't seem to
have a downloadable copy of the application.

    I will check out the examples you pointed out.


cheers,

   mehul


On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 08:26, James Agnew<james@...> wrote:
> Hi Mehul,
>
> Just to add to the chain and agree with the others, HAPI is probably not the
> most friendly way of generating one-off messages if you're just looking to
> generate a handful of one-time messages. For that purpose, I might recommend
> the excellent 7edit product (http://www.7edit.com), but it's not free.
> Alternately, Message Workbench can probably help you, although it's a bit
> daunting to use.
>
> That said, if you don't mind the learning curve, or want to automate the
> process of generating messages, I'm sure HAPI could be made to do what you
> want.
>
> Have a look at the "creating a message" examples here for an idea of how to
> get started: http://hl7api.sourceforge.net/devbyexample.html
>
> James
>
> On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 8:52 PM, Mehul Sanghvi <mehul.sanghvi@...>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>>  I am posting to this mailing ince this is the only one available and
>> there isn't a users mailing list.
>>
>>  What I am looking for is something that I can use to generate HL7
>> messages and write them to a file in a directory.
>>  The messages will then get picked up by a server process which will
>> do what it needs to with it.  Is this something
>>  that can be done using HAPI ?  I do not want to it to generate XML
>> files, but rather just have the HL7 message written
>>  directly to a file.
>>
>>  The place I work at currently has a simulator that generates such
>> messages, but its written using Facile, and not many
>> people understand it that well.  It doesn't support all types of
>> messages, and since no one understands it well enough
>> it is difficult to add new message types that we may need.  The
>> company is a Java shop mostly.  I want to generate the
>> messages for the purpose of regressions testing and demonstrations of
>> our product.
>>
>>
>> cheers,
>>
>>       mehul
>>
>> --
>> Mehul N. Sanghvi
>> email: mehul.sanghvi@...
>> Ted Turner  - "Sports is like a war without the killing." -
>> http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/t/ted_turner.html
>>
>>
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>
>



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Re: Generating HL7 messages

by Mehul Sanghvi-2 :: Rate this Message:

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Thanks for the MWB URL.

Any experience with NIST Message Maker, anyone ?


cheers,

    mehul
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 11:17, James Agnew<james@...> wrote:

> In that case, I'd say HAPI probably is your best bet.
>
> Here's a link to where you can download MWB though:
> http://sl.infoway-inforoute.ca/content/dispPage.asp?cw_page=infostand_hl7can_software_e
>
> James
>
> On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 8:33 AM, Mehul Sanghvi <mehul.sanghvi@...>
> wrote:
>>
>> James,
>>
>>     Automating the process of generating messages is what I am trying
>> to do.  I understand that HAPI by itself will not be able to generate
>> the messages as such and that I will need to write some wrapper code
>> around it.
>>
>>     Do you have an URL for Message Workbench ?   I've looked at
>> HL7.org and the following
>> http://hl7projects.hl7.nscee.edu/projects/mwb/ but doesn't seem to
>> have a downloadable copy of the application.
>>
>>     I will check out the examples you pointed out.
>>
>>
>> cheers,
>>
>>    mehul
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 08:26, James Agnew<james@...> wrote:
>> > Hi Mehul,
>> >
>> > Just to add to the chain and agree with the others, HAPI is probably not
>> > the
>> > most friendly way of generating one-off messages if you're just looking
>> > to
>> > generate a handful of one-time messages. For that purpose, I might
>> > recommend
>> > the excellent 7edit product (http://www.7edit.com), but it's not free.
>> > Alternately, Message Workbench can probably help you, although it's a
>> > bit
>> > daunting to use.
>> >
>> > That said, if you don't mind the learning curve, or want to automate the
>> > process of generating messages, I'm sure HAPI could be made to do what
>> > you
>> > want.
>> >
>> > Have a look at the "creating a message" examples here for an idea of how
>> > to
>> > get started: http://hl7api.sourceforge.net/devbyexample.html
>> >
>> > James
>> >
>> > On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 8:52 PM, Mehul Sanghvi <mehul.sanghvi@...>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >>  I am posting to this mailing ince this is the only one available and
>> >> there isn't a users mailing list.
>> >>
>> >>  What I am looking for is something that I can use to generate HL7
>> >> messages and write them to a file in a directory.
>> >>  The messages will then get picked up by a server process which will
>> >> do what it needs to with it.  Is this something
>> >>  that can be done using HAPI ?  I do not want to it to generate XML
>> >> files, but rather just have the HL7 message written
>> >>  directly to a file.
>> >>
>> >>  The place I work at currently has a simulator that generates such
>> >> messages, but its written using Facile, and not many
>> >> people understand it that well.  It doesn't support all types of
>> >> messages, and since no one understands it well enough
>> >> it is difficult to add new message types that we may need.  The
>> >> company is a Java shop mostly.  I want to generate the
>> >> messages for the purpose of regressions testing and demonstrations of
>> >> our product.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> cheers,
>> >>
>> >>       mehul
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Mehul N. Sanghvi
>> >> email: mehul.sanghvi@...
>> >> Ted Turner  - "Sports is like a war without the killing." -
>> >> http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/t/ted_turner.html
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Mehul N. Sanghvi
>> email: mehul.sanghvi@...
>> Mike Ditka  - "If God had wanted man to play soccer, he wouldn't have
>> given us arms." -
>> http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/m/mike_ditka.html
>
>



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