Get Group membership?

[Corvan-3]

Back to pick people's brains :-)

A large group I belong to wants to set up a system that will allow us to send inventory to all members of the group. We've looked at subscribe-o-matic and frankly as a non-profit we cannot afford their rates and we haven't heard back from them regarding setting up a non-profit subscribe-o-matic group.

Is there a way to find the list of UUIDs that are members of a group? Assume that the object making the request is owned by the group owner if that helps any.

The best I've found on the wiki is "Communications such as instant messages cannot be sent to a group per se. Instead, what you have to do is create a list of the UUIDs of the people in that group, and loop through the list sending an instant message to each person separately;

 " but nothing on _how_ to create such a list.

Thanks again!

Corvan.

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[Chad Skidmore]

I would maintain the list in an external DB that gets updated along with the group add/delete process.  You could then pull the list of UUIDs via HTTP and loop through it for any object sending etc.

 

Hope that helps,

chad

 

From: corvan@...

Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 7:09 AM

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Subject: Get Group membership?

Back to pick people's brains :-)

A large group I belong to wants to set up a system that will allow us to send inventory to all members of the group. We've looked at subscribe-o-matic and frankly as a non-profit we cannot afford their rates and we haven't heard back from them regarding setting up a non-profit subscribe-o-matic group.

Is there a way to find the list of UUIDs that are members of a group? Assume that the object making the request is owned by the group owner if that helps any.

The best I've found on the wiki is "Communications such as instant messages cannot be sent to a group per se. Instead, what you have to do is create a list of the UUIDs of the people in that group, and loop through the list sending an instant message to each person separately;

 " but nothing on _how_ to create such a list.

Thanks again!

Corvan.

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[Very Keynes]

If you are an officer of the group, you can see the list in the SL
Client, but you can't access it via LSL, and I don't think you can
copy and paste, so your only option is to hand transcribe it into a
list. You then use a Name2Key lookup service to get the keys. That
part of the code I can let you have, but it still needs a list of
names to send too, that you need to supply.
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[Tori C.]

On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Corvan <corvan@...> wrote:
> A large group I belong to wants to set up a system that will allow us to
> send inventory to all members of the group. We've looked at
> subscribe-o-matic and frankly as a non-profit we cannot afford their rates
> and we haven't heard back from them regarding setting up a non-profit
> subscribe-o-matic group.

You might try the built-in system, attachments on group notices, and
see how that works out.
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[2fast4u Nabob]

(shoot - Tori C beat me to it)

You could create a notecard, put your inventory items into it, and
then attach the notecard to a group notice.

Simple and free :)

-2fast

On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Corvan <corvan@...> wrote:

> Back to pick people's brains :-)
> A large group I belong to wants to set up a system that will allow us to
> send inventory to all members of the group. We've looked at
> subscribe-o-matic and frankly as a non-profit we cannot afford their rates
> and we haven't heard back from them regarding setting up a non-profit
> subscribe-o-matic group.
> Is there a way to find the list of UUIDs that are members of a group? Assume
> that the object making the request is owned by the group owner if that helps
> any.
> The best I've found on the wiki is "Communications such as instant messages
> cannot be sent to a group per se. Instead, what you have to do is create a
> list of the UUIDs of the people in that group, and loop through the list
> sending an instant message to each person separately;
>  " but nothing on _how_ to create such a list.
>
> Thanks again!
> Corvan.
>
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[ELQ Homewood]

I use a web group rather than inworld group. To join, people click my
group joiner which sends their name and key to my db and then when I
send a notice or announcement, I put the notecard or object into my
inworld distributor and it sends to all group members based on their
keys stored in the db.
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[ELQ Homewood]

Sorry, just re-read the question lol...the simplest way (for you), if
you chose to go with a web group, would be to create the db and php
scripts, set up a group joiner which sends the toucher's name and key
and whatever else you need to the php script which will populate the
db. Then set the joiner prim in some location and send out an inworld
notice asking all members to come touch the joiner.
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[Corvan-3]

They're notoriously unreliable lately, and it's not getting better.  
This is a group with several thousand members...

Thanks,
Corvan.

On Sep 10, 2009, at 7:55 AM, Tori C. wrote:

> On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Corvan <corvan@...>  
> wrote:
>> A large group I belong to wants to set up a system that will allow  
>> us to
>> send inventory to all members of the group. We've looked at
>> subscribe-o-matic and frankly as a non-profit we cannot afford  
>> their rates
>> and we haven't heard back from them regarding setting up a non-profit
>> subscribe-o-matic group.
>
> You might try the built-in system, attachments on group notices, and
> see how that works out.
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[Corvan-3]

That's essentially what Subscribe-o-matic does, and if we don't hear  
back from them, I may end up coding that myself.

Cheers,
Bruce.

On Sep 10, 2009, at 8:05 AM, ELQ Homewood wrote:

> I use a web group rather than inworld group. To join, people click my
> group joiner which sends their name and key to my db and then when I
> send a notice or announcement, I put the notecard or object into my
> inworld distributor and it sends to all group members based on their
> keys stored in the db.

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[MSo Lambert]

Corvan,

I sent you a message in regards to obtaining a non-profit Subscribe-O-Matic subscription. Would be more than happy to provide one for you - just set up your group and drop me a line.

Regards,
MSo

On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 18:23, Corvan <corvan@...> wrote:

That's essentially what Subscribe-o-matic does, and if we don't hear
back from them, I may end up coding that myself.

Cheers,
Bruce.

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[Corvan-3]

Thanks, Mso!

On Sep 10, 2009, at 9:27 AM, MSo Lambert wrote:

Corvan,

I sent you a message in regards to obtaining a non-profit Subscribe-O-Matic subscription. Would be more than happy to provide one for you - just set up your group and drop me a line.

Regards,
MSo

On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 18:23, Corvan <corvan@...> wrote:

That's essentially what Subscribe-o-matic does, and if we don't hear
back from them, I may end up coding that myself.

Cheers,
Bruce.

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I put a collision detector in my Jazz Club floor that sends the UUID to the
data base (plus "same group" information during the conversion to web base).
Depending on group type this may not help.  It can also work for automatic
open invitations to non group visitors.

Watch for traffic limitations on sending UUIDs to the distributor via HTTP.
Long lists can take hours to send keeping within the message length and HTTP
limitations.

AnnMarie Otoole

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From: "Corvan" <corvan@...>
Subject: Re: Get Group membership?

> That's essentially what Subscribe-o-matic does, and if we don't hear
> back from them, I may end up coding that myself.
>
> Cheers,
> Bruce.
>
> On Sep 10, 2009, at 8:05 AM, ELQ Homewood wrote:
>
>> I use a web group rather than inworld group. To join, people click my
>> group joiner which sends their name and key to my db and then when I
>> send a notice or announcement, I put the notecard or object into my
>> inworld distributor and it sends to all group members based on their
>> keys stored in the db.

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[Tori C.]

On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Corvan <corvan@...> wrote:
> They're notoriously unreliable lately, and it's not getting better. This is
> a group with several thousand members...

You may want to use a double pronged approach both vis script and
group, because scripted objects get silent inventory offer failures
too, it the avatar is online and busy, or offline and capped.

Group notice attachments are recoverable, they are still there in the
notices tab even if the broadcast doesn't get through.
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