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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26506138</id>
	<title>Re: creating a texture</title>
	<published>2009-11-24T17:20:54Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-24T17:20:54Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Owen-24</name>
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	<content type="html">&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; hello there i am a blender user
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; i i wanted to create a texture for bumomap/normal map
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; in gimp
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; i tryed the noise filter but this is not what i need
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; i am modeling a camera
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; see camera real image here
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d40/images/d40-18-55mm-top-big.jpg&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d40/images/d40-18-55mm-top-big.jpg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; u can see that the camera material have little bumps
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; with different shapes in each little bump
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; how can i generate a texture like this in gimp
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; black and white will be also greate
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;I would try
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;Convert image to grayscale
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;Copy out a small section and save as a .pat file
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; i dont understand how grayscale can help
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; thank u
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Well that was my interpretation of your &amp;quot;black and white will be also
&lt;br&gt;greate&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- 
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26506096</id>
	<title>Re: Script-Fu Exceptions and errors</title>
	<published>2009-11-24T17:15:57Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-24T17:15:57Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Thomas DuBuisson</name>
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	<content type="html">Update 2:
&lt;br&gt;1) Exceptions
&lt;br&gt;The macro (not sure of the underlying primitives) &amp;quot;catch&amp;quot; will catch
&lt;br&gt;errors. &amp;nbsp;The web page didn't even call them exceptions, which explains
&lt;br&gt;why I/google didn't find it quickly.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ex: when converting an image that might already be RGB to RGB:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; (catch (gimp-image-convert-rgb image))
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;2) The layer issue
&lt;br&gt;As stated before, an earlier command was obliterating my layer and I
&lt;br&gt;forgot to take the head of the get-active-{layer,drawable} in my later
&lt;br&gt;operations.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;3) Assertation failures and segfaults
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The assertation failures are probably somehow connected with my layer
&lt;br&gt;merging - not that it is good to be able to hit this so easily. &amp;nbsp;I
&lt;br&gt;also found a segfault, do to out of range arguments, since my previous
&lt;br&gt;post and see that this doesn't crash the program - so its running in a
&lt;br&gt;different thread or processs I guess. &amp;nbsp;Not sure if I can catch this
&lt;br&gt;with &amp;quot;catch&amp;quot;, if I can't then I'll have to fix these corner cases.
&lt;br&gt;Perhaps I'll make some patches for the function documentation if
&lt;br&gt;people are interested.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thomas
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Thomas DuBuisson
&lt;br&gt;&amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26506096&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;thomas.dubuisson@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Update:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 1) The question regarding exceptions remains - there are too many
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; corner cases, mostly undocumented, so it would be nice to ignore them
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; silently.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 2) I see my fix was almost right but I forgot to take the head of the list:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;quot;(car (gimp-image-get-active-drawable image))&amp;quot; is what I want, not the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; no-longer-existing layer0 or the whole list returned by
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; gimp-image-get-active-{layer,drawable}.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 3) I still get things like the message below, so same question.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; (gimp-console:2987): Gimp-Core-CRITICAL **: gimp_image_remove_layer:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; assertion `gimp_container_have (image-&amp;gt;layers, GIMP_OBJECT (layer))'
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; failed
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Thomas DuBuisson
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26506096&amp;i=1&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;thomas.dubuisson@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Hello list,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; I am planning on evolving image transformations using an AST of the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; script-fu langauge and generating random (but syntatically correct)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; scripts.  I would like to avoid programming in hundreds of corner
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; cases into the system and thus have the following questions:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 1) Script-fu throws exceptions
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; If/when I do something basic like call &amp;quot;gimp-image-raise-layer&amp;quot; on a
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; layer that can not be raised, an exception is thrown.  I would very
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; much like to catch/ignore exceptions such as this but it seems
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; script-fu is too primitive.  Am I missing something?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 2) gimp-layer-new-from-drawable nearly always fails
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; ------------- CODE --------------
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; (let* ((image (car (gimp-file-load RUN-NONINTERACTIVE &amp;quot;image.png&amp;quot; &amp;quot;image.png&amp;quot;)))
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;        (layer0 (car (gimp-image-get-active-layer image))))
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;        (let* ((layer1 (car (gimp-image-flatten image))))
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;        (gimp-layer-set-mode layer1 25)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; )       (let* ((layer1 (car (gimp-layer-new-from-drawable layer0 image))))
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; ...
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; ----------------- END CODE --------------
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; In the above you see I define layer0 as the active layer (which I
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; thought was a drawable) but this doesn't work for
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; gimp-layer-new-from-drawable.  Replacing layer0 with 'image' also
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; doesn't work and most frustratingly, using &amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; (gimp-image-get-active-drawable image)&amp;quot; also doesn't work - which I
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; really thought it should based on the documentation.  What does this
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; function expect?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; (I understand gimp-image-flatten somehow screws everything up by
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; eliminating the layer, but am still not clear how to once-again get a
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; valid layer from my image)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 3) C Assertation failures
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Perhaps most concerning are the assertation failures.  Presumably,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; these are not supposed to happen.  How concerned should I be?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; -------------------- START CONSOLE DUMP -------------------------
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; (let* ((image (car (gimp-file-load RUN-NONINTERACTIVE &amp;quot;image.png&amp;quot; &amp;quot;image.png&amp;quot;)))
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;        (layer0 (car (gimp-image-get-active-layer image))))
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;        (let* ((layer1 (car (gimp-layer-new-from-drawable layer0 image))))
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;        (gimp-layer-add-alpha layer1)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;        (gimp-image-merge-down image layer1 2))
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;        (set! layer0 (gimp-image-get-active-layer image))
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;        (let* ((layer1 (car (gimp-image-flatten image))))
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;        (gimp-layer-set-opacity layer1 21.811554)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;        (gimp-image-merge-down image layer1 0))
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;        (set! layer0 (gimp-image-get-active-layer image))
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;        (let* ((layer1 (car (gimp-layer-new-from-drawable layer0 image))))
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;        (gimp-layer-flatten layer1)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;        (gimp-image-merge-down image layer1 0))
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;        (set! layer0 (gimp-image-get-active-layer image))
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; (let* ((currDraw (car (gimp-image-get-active-layer image))))
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; (gimp-file-save RUN-NONINTERACTIVE image currDraw &amp;quot;newImage.png&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;quot;newImage.png&amp;quot; ))
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; )
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; (gimp-console:2987): Gimp-Core-CRITICAL **: gimp_image_remove_layer:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; assertion `gimp_container_have (image-&amp;gt;layers, GIMP_OBJECT (layer))'
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; failed
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; ---------------------------- END CONSOLE DUMP -------------------------
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Cheers,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Thomas
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26504557</id>
	<title>convert an image into an outline</title>
	<published>2009-11-24T14:41:30Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-24T14:41:30Z</updated>
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		<name>Batangisip</name>
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	<content type="html">You could select by color and choose the black, then from the select menu
&lt;br&gt;choose &amp;quot;to path&amp;quot; from there go to the edit menu and select &amp;quot;stroke path&amp;quot;.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- 
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26503955</id>
	<title>Re: minimize the main toolbox?</title>
	<published>2009-11-24T13:53:42Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-24T13:53:42Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Sven Neumann</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hi,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;there are a lot of useful hints in the &amp;quot;Tips of the Day&amp;quot; dialog, hidden
&lt;br&gt;in the Help menu. Perhaps you guys want to enable the &amp;quot;Tips of the Day&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;feature and learn some more nice things about GIMP. One of the tips
&lt;br&gt;would have been this one:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;If your screen is too cluttered, you can press Tab in an image
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;window to toggle the visibility of the toolbox and other dialogs.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sven
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	<title>Re: creating a texture</title>
	<published>2009-11-24T13:50:35Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-24T13:50:35Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>GSR - FR</name>
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	<content type="html">Hi,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26503896&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;forums@...&lt;/a&gt; (2009-11-24 at 2113.32 +0100):
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; hello there i am a blender user 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; i i wanted to create a texture for bumomap/normal map
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; in gimp 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; i tryed the noise filter but this is not what i need
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You have to combine it with other things. ;]
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; i am modeling a camera 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; see camera real image here 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d40/images/d40-18-55mm-top-big.jpg&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d40/images/d40-18-55mm-top-big.jpg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; u can see that the camera material have little bumps
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; with different shapes in each little bump
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; how can i generate a texture like this in gimp
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You can probably do it in Blender too, using clouds texture, custom
&lt;br&gt;colour gradients, etc. But in Gimp:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;- new white image.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;- rgb noise filter, move sliders to max so you get lots of dots.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;- desaturate (lightness one is fine, try others if you want).
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;- blur (normal one will do here).
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;- curves, make a _/ curve , the histogram should show a sharp spike on
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; the right side like /\, I placed the curve parallel to the left side
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; of spike (x 162, y 0 and x 183, y 255, approx). This leaves you with
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; some random black spots.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;- guassian blur, 1-2 pixels to smooth.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;- invert if you need the bump map that way.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As last note, I decided the dot density was too low, so before invert
&lt;br&gt;I duplicated the layer, offset it, and put it in multiply mode. Next
&lt;br&gt;would be making the result tileable (plenty of tutorials about this,
&lt;br&gt;most just forget that you should use offset multiple times different
&lt;br&gt;values, otherwise you will have zones that are hard to touch up).
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;GSR
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	<title>Re: minimize the main toolbox?</title>
	<published>2009-11-24T13:41:29Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-24T13:41:29Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Ryan Krauss-2</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Ironically, I think I have accidentally hidden the toolbox trying to
&lt;br&gt;alt-tab as well. &amp;nbsp;If I knew what I did, I would have stumbled onto the
&lt;br&gt;answer to my own question...
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Martijn Weisbeek &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26503770&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;weisbeek@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Olivier,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Use the TAB key, which toggles visibility of the toolbox and other
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; dockable dialogs. And use F11 to fill the screen with the image window.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; You can even remove the menu bar, scrolling bars, and status bar, and
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; have an image which really fills the screen.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Those are some nifty shortcut keys. That might also explain why
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; sometimes I have &amp;quot;lost&amp;quot; my toolbox.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I guess that this has happened after I used the tab key for some
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; action within GIMP.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Then I might have meant ALT+TAB (to switch windows) instead, but
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; forgot to press ALT and my toolbox is gone...
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Do you know whether there is a list of these key combinations online somewhere ?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I would expect these to be in the GIMP's user manual, but I cannot
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; seem to find them.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://docs.gimp.org/en/key-reference.html&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://docs.gimp.org/en/key-reference.html&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;is as close as I could find.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; However, it would be nice when there would be one pages with all of
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; these useful GIMP commands.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Thanks in advance,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Martijn
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26503158</id>
	<title>creating a texture</title>
	<published>2009-11-24T12:58:41Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-24T12:58:41Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Batangisip</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; hello there i am a blender user
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; i i wanted to create a texture for bumomap/normal map
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; in gimp
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; i tryed the noise filter but this is not what i need
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; i am modeling a camera
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; see camera real image here
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d40/images/d40-18-55mm-top-big.jpg&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d40/images/d40-18-55mm-top-big.jpg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; u can see that the camera material have little bumps
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; with different shapes in each little bump
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; how can i generate a texture like this in gimp
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; black and white will be also greate
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;I would try
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;Convert image to grayscale
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;Copy out a small section and save as a .pat file
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;/div&gt;i dont understand how grayscale can help
&lt;br&gt;thank u
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26502914</id>
	<title>Re: creating a texture</title>
	<published>2009-11-24T12:41:40Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-24T12:41:40Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Owen-24</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; hello there i am a blender user
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; i i wanted to create a texture for bumomap/normal map
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; in gimp
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; i tryed the noise filter but this is not what i need
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; i am modeling a camera
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; see camera real image here
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d40/images/d40-18-55mm-top-big.jpg&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d40/images/d40-18-55mm-top-big.jpg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; u can see that the camera material have little bumps
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; with different shapes in each little bump
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; how can i generate a texture like this in gimp
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; black and white will be also greate
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I would try
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Convert image to grayscale
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Copy out a small section and save as a .pat file
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- 
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26502519</id>
	<title>creating a texture</title>
	<published>2009-11-24T12:13:32Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-24T12:13:32Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Batangisip</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">hello there i am a blender user 
&lt;br&gt;i i wanted to create a texture for bumomap/normal map
&lt;br&gt;in gimp 
&lt;br&gt;i tryed the noise filter but this is not what i need
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;i am modeling a camera 
&lt;br&gt;see camera real image here 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d40/images/d40-18-55mm-top-big.jpg&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d40/images/d40-18-55mm-top-big.jpg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;u can see that the camera material have little bumps
&lt;br&gt;with different shapes in each little bump
&lt;br&gt;how can i generate a texture like this in gimp
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;black and white will be also greate 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;thank you
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- 
&lt;br&gt;shay t. (via www.gimpusers.com)
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26502013</id>
	<title>Re: Script-Fu Exceptions and errors</title>
	<published>2009-11-24T11:34:43Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-24T11:34:43Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Thomas DuBuisson</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Update:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1) The question regarding exceptions remains - there are too many
&lt;br&gt;corner cases, mostly undocumented, so it would be nice to ignore them
&lt;br&gt;silently.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;2) I see my fix was almost right but I forgot to take the head of the list:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;quot;(car (gimp-image-get-active-drawable image))&amp;quot; is what I want, not the
&lt;br&gt;no-longer-existing layer0 or the whole list returned by
&lt;br&gt;gimp-image-get-active-{layer,drawable}.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;3) I still get things like the message below, so same question.
&lt;br&gt;(gimp-console:2987): Gimp-Core-CRITICAL **: gimp_image_remove_layer:
&lt;br&gt;assertion `gimp_container_have (image-&amp;gt;layers, GIMP_OBJECT (layer))'
&lt;br&gt;failed
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Thomas DuBuisson
&lt;br&gt;&amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26502013&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;thomas.dubuisson@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hello list,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I am planning on evolving image transformations using an AST of the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; script-fu langauge and generating random (but syntatically correct)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; scripts.  I would like to avoid programming in hundreds of corner
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; cases into the system and thus have the following questions:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 1) Script-fu throws exceptions
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; If/when I do something basic like call &amp;quot;gimp-image-raise-layer&amp;quot; on a
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; layer that can not be raised, an exception is thrown.  I would very
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; much like to catch/ignore exceptions such as this but it seems
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; script-fu is too primitive.  Am I missing something?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 2) gimp-layer-new-from-drawable nearly always fails
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ------------- CODE --------------
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; (let* ((image (car (gimp-file-load RUN-NONINTERACTIVE &amp;quot;image.png&amp;quot; &amp;quot;image.png&amp;quot;)))
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;        (layer0 (car (gimp-image-get-active-layer image))))
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;        (let* ((layer1 (car (gimp-image-flatten image))))
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;        (gimp-layer-set-mode layer1 25)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; )       (let* ((layer1 (car (gimp-layer-new-from-drawable layer0 image))))
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ...
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ----------------- END CODE --------------
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; In the above you see I define layer0 as the active layer (which I
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; thought was a drawable) but this doesn't work for
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; gimp-layer-new-from-drawable.  Replacing layer0 with 'image' also
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; doesn't work and most frustratingly, using &amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; (gimp-image-get-active-drawable image)&amp;quot; also doesn't work - which I
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; really thought it should based on the documentation.  What does this
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; function expect?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; (I understand gimp-image-flatten somehow screws everything up by
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; eliminating the layer, but am still not clear how to once-again get a
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; valid layer from my image)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 3) C Assertation failures
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Perhaps most concerning are the assertation failures.  Presumably,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; these are not supposed to happen.  How concerned should I be?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; -------------------- START CONSOLE DUMP -------------------------
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; (let* ((image (car (gimp-file-load RUN-NONINTERACTIVE &amp;quot;image.png&amp;quot; &amp;quot;image.png&amp;quot;)))
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;        (layer0 (car (gimp-image-get-active-layer image))))
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;        (let* ((layer1 (car (gimp-layer-new-from-drawable layer0 image))))
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;        (gimp-layer-add-alpha layer1)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;        (gimp-image-merge-down image layer1 2))
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;        (set! layer0 (gimp-image-get-active-layer image))
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;        (let* ((layer1 (car (gimp-image-flatten image))))
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;        (gimp-layer-set-opacity layer1 21.811554)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;        (gimp-image-merge-down image layer1 0))
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;        (set! layer0 (gimp-image-get-active-layer image))
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;        (let* ((layer1 (car (gimp-layer-new-from-drawable layer0 image))))
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;        (gimp-layer-flatten layer1)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;        (gimp-image-merge-down image layer1 0))
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;        (set! layer0 (gimp-image-get-active-layer image))
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; (let* ((currDraw (car (gimp-image-get-active-layer image))))
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; (gimp-file-save RUN-NONINTERACTIVE image currDraw &amp;quot;newImage.png&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;quot;newImage.png&amp;quot; ))
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; )
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; (gimp-console:2987): Gimp-Core-CRITICAL **: gimp_image_remove_layer:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; assertion `gimp_container_have (image-&amp;gt;layers, GIMP_OBJECT (layer))'
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; failed
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ---------------------------- END CONSOLE DUMP -------------------------
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Cheers,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Thomas
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26501173</id>
	<title>convert an image into an outline</title>
	<published>2009-11-24T10:34:35Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-24T10:34:35Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Bob Meetin - www.dottedi.biz</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">I have an image roughly 600 px square which in which the picture was 
&lt;br&gt;taken on a white-ish background. &amp;nbsp;I managed to crop it well enough to 
&lt;br&gt;now have a silhouette of the object, black object on white background. &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;Is there a way to convert it to an outline, say with a 1-3 pixel 
&lt;br&gt;border? &amp;nbsp;It is currently a .png.
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26500702</id>
	<title>Script-Fu Exceptions and errors</title>
	<published>2009-11-24T10:05:27Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-24T10:05:27Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Thomas DuBuisson</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hello list,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I am planning on evolving image transformations using an AST of the
&lt;br&gt;script-fu langauge and generating random (but syntatically correct)
&lt;br&gt;scripts. &amp;nbsp;I would like to avoid programming in hundreds of corner
&lt;br&gt;cases into the system and thus have the following questions:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1) Script-fu throws exceptions
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If/when I do something basic like call &amp;quot;gimp-image-raise-layer&amp;quot; on a
&lt;br&gt;layer that can not be raised, an exception is thrown. &amp;nbsp;I would very
&lt;br&gt;much like to catch/ignore exceptions such as this but it seems
&lt;br&gt;script-fu is too primitive. &amp;nbsp;Am I missing something?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;2) gimp-layer-new-from-drawable nearly always fails
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;------------- CODE --------------
&lt;br&gt;(let* ((image (car (gimp-file-load RUN-NONINTERACTIVE &amp;quot;image.png&amp;quot; &amp;quot;image.png&amp;quot;)))
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; (layer0 (car (gimp-image-get-active-layer image))))
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; (let* ((layer1 (car (gimp-image-flatten image))))
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; (gimp-layer-set-mode layer1 25)
&lt;br&gt;) &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; (let* ((layer1 (car (gimp-layer-new-from-drawable layer0 image))))
&lt;br&gt;...
&lt;br&gt;----------------- END CODE --------------
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In the above you see I define layer0 as the active layer (which I
&lt;br&gt;thought was a drawable) but this doesn't work for
&lt;br&gt;gimp-layer-new-from-drawable. &amp;nbsp;Replacing layer0 with 'image' also
&lt;br&gt;doesn't work and most frustratingly, using &amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;(gimp-image-get-active-drawable image)&amp;quot; also doesn't work - which I
&lt;br&gt;really thought it should based on the documentation. &amp;nbsp;What does this
&lt;br&gt;function expect?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;(I understand gimp-image-flatten somehow screws everything up by
&lt;br&gt;eliminating the layer, but am still not clear how to once-again get a
&lt;br&gt;valid layer from my image)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;3) C Assertation failures
&lt;br&gt;Perhaps most concerning are the assertation failures. &amp;nbsp;Presumably,
&lt;br&gt;these are not supposed to happen. &amp;nbsp;How concerned should I be?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-------------------- START CONSOLE DUMP -------------------------
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; (let* ((image (car (gimp-file-load RUN-NONINTERACTIVE &amp;quot;image.png&amp;quot; &amp;quot;image.png&amp;quot;)))
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; (layer0 (car (gimp-image-get-active-layer image))))
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; (let* ((layer1 (car (gimp-layer-new-from-drawable layer0 image))))
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; (gimp-layer-add-alpha layer1)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; (gimp-image-merge-down image layer1 2))
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; (set! layer0 (gimp-image-get-active-layer image))
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; (let* ((layer1 (car (gimp-image-flatten image))))
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; (gimp-layer-set-opacity layer1 21.811554)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; (gimp-image-merge-down image layer1 0))
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; (set! layer0 (gimp-image-get-active-layer image))
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; (let* ((layer1 (car (gimp-layer-new-from-drawable layer0 image))))
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; (gimp-layer-flatten layer1)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; (gimp-image-merge-down image layer1 0))
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; (set! layer0 (gimp-image-get-active-layer image))
&lt;br&gt;(let* ((currDraw (car (gimp-image-get-active-layer image))))
&lt;br&gt;(gimp-file-save RUN-NONINTERACTIVE image currDraw &amp;quot;newImage.png&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;quot;newImage.png&amp;quot; ))
&lt;br&gt;)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;(gimp-console:2987): Gimp-Core-CRITICAL **: gimp_image_remove_layer:
&lt;br&gt;assertion `gimp_container_have (image-&amp;gt;layers, GIMP_OBJECT (layer))'
&lt;br&gt;failed
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;---------------------------- END CONSOLE DUMP -------------------------
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	<title>Re: minimize the main toolbox?</title>
	<published>2009-11-24T09:29:08Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-24T09:29:08Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Martijn Weisbeek</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Olivier,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Use the TAB key, which toggles visibility of the toolbox and other
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; dockable dialogs. And use F11 to fill the screen with the image window.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; You can even remove the menu bar, scrolling bars, and status bar, and
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; have an image which really fills the screen.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Those are some nifty shortcut keys. That might also explain why
&lt;br&gt;sometimes I have &amp;quot;lost&amp;quot; my toolbox.
&lt;br&gt;I guess that this has happened after I used the tab key for some
&lt;br&gt;action within GIMP.
&lt;br&gt;Then I might have meant ALT+TAB (to switch windows) instead, but
&lt;br&gt;forgot to press ALT and my toolbox is gone...
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Do you know whether there is a list of these key combinations online somewhere ?
&lt;br&gt;I would expect these to be in the GIMP's user manual, but I cannot
&lt;br&gt;seem to find them.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://docs.gimp.org/en/key-reference.html&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://docs.gimp.org/en/key-reference.html&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;is as close as I could find.
&lt;br&gt;However, it would be nice when there would be one pages with all of
&lt;br&gt;these useful GIMP commands.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks in advance,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Martijn
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	<title>Re: minimize the main toolbox?</title>
	<published>2009-11-24T08:33:29Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-24T08:33:29Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Ryan Krauss-2</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Thanks. &amp;nbsp;I got several responses - but they are sent to me and not the
&lt;br&gt;list. &amp;nbsp;I never knew the &amp;lt;tab&amp;gt; key toggled the visibility of the
&lt;br&gt;toolbox.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks!
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ryan
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 10:31 AM, Olivier Lecarme
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&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Use the TAB key, which toggles visibility of the toolbox and other
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; dockable dialogs. And use F11 to fill the screen with the image window.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; You can even remove the menu bar, scrolling bars, and status bar, and
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; have an image which really fills the screen.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; --
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;                        Olivier Lecarme
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26499044</id>
	<title>Re: minimize the main toolbox?</title>
	<published>2009-11-24T08:31:56Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-24T08:31:56Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Olivier Lecarme</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Use the TAB key, which toggles visibility of the toolbox and other
&lt;br&gt;dockable dialogs. And use F11 to fill the screen with the image window.
&lt;br&gt;You can even remove the menu bar, scrolling bars, and status bar, and
&lt;br&gt;have an image which really fills the screen.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- 
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	<title>Latest version issue...</title>
	<published>2009-11-24T07:03:49Z</published>
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	<title>minimize the main toolbox?</title>
	<published>2009-11-24T05:42:57Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-24T05:42:57Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Ryan Krauss-2</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Is it possible to either minimize the toolbox or have an image window
&lt;br&gt;in front of the toolbox. &amp;nbsp;I am using the GIMP as a digital whiteboard
&lt;br&gt;with a digitizing tablet (Wacom Bamboo) for my lectures. &amp;nbsp;I would like
&lt;br&gt;to write on an image that fills as much of the screen as possible and
&lt;br&gt;would like the toolbox to be either behind the current image or
&lt;br&gt;minimized. &amp;nbsp;It is not obvious to me how to make it not be on top.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ryan
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	<title>Re: Hi there</title>
	<published>2009-11-23T23:08:55Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-23T23:08:55Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Owen-24</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hi there:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I've been using The Gimp from some time now, but always as quick image
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; editor. Now I want to use to more things.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I'm by no means a pro, just a programmer, a linux user and an
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; enthusiast on image editing.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I'd like to learn about how using Gimp. Before posting something on
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; the list I wish to know if there any kind of rule, besides the google
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; first rule ;).
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hope learn and help to learn.
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This manual is probably your best bet, &lt;a href=&quot;http://docs.gimp.org/2.6/en/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://docs.gimp.org/2.6/en/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Pretty old, &lt;a href=&quot;http://gimp-savvy.com/BOOK/index.html&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://gimp-savvy.com/BOOK/index.html&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;but good on theory
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I haven't read this, but it's up to date and worth buying
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://gimpbook.com/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://gimpbook.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Otherwise, as you say, Google for various tutorials, there are a
&lt;br&gt;zillion of them. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gimpusers.com&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.gimpusers.com&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;is a good place to bookmark
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ask questions on irc.freenode.org #gimp
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26490924</id>
	<title>Hi there</title>
	<published>2009-11-23T22:08:57Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-23T22:08:57Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Eligio Becerra Zavala</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hi there:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I've been using The Gimp from some time now, but always as quick image editor. Now I want to use to more things.
&lt;br&gt;I'm by no means a pro, just a programmer, a linux user and an enthusiast on image editing.
&lt;br&gt;I'd like to learn about how using Gimp. Before posting something on the list I wish to know if there any kind of rule, besides the google first rule ;).
&lt;br&gt;Hope learn and help to learn.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;masterLoki
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26489396</id>
	<title>Re: Scaling large tiff files</title>
	<published>2009-11-23T18:00:17Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-23T18:00:17Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Owen-24</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I work with a proprietary software package that imports image files
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; (in this
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; case, large tiffs containing hi-res images of architectural plans),
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; and large
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; plans, especially if you import five or six of them, tend to choke the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; application.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; It was suggested that I open these images in Photoshop and save them
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; as
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; pdf's.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; In PS, I can open them, save them as PDF's, task complete.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; In GIMP, the same exercise yielded pdf's that were of low resolution,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; and, in
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; some cases, I believe, not true to the original scale of the tiff
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; images (a
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; very important factor to the software in which the ultimate images
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; will be
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; utilized).
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Can someone clue me in as to how I can open these large tiffs in GIMP,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; save
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; or export them as pdf's, and preserve the original resolution (or
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; viewing
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; quality) and the same scale?
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Gimp is definitely the wrong tool for for this.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You have one answer, but you might also want to look at Scribus to
&lt;br&gt;import your tiffs and produce pdfs.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Particularly if you wish to add annotations
&lt;br&gt;-- 
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	<title>Re: Scaling large tiff files</title>
	<published>2009-11-23T16:49:09Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-23T16:49:09Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Charles-94</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 01:42:45 +0100 (CET)
&lt;br&gt;Carusoswi &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26488830&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;forums@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I work with a proprietary software package that imports image files (in
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; this case, large tiffs containing hi-res images of architectural plans),
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; and large plans, especially if you import five or six of them, tend to
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; choke the application.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; It was suggested that I open these images in Photoshop and save them as
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; pdf's.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; In PS, I can open them, save them as PDF's, task complete.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; In GIMP, the same exercise yielded pdf's that were of low resolution,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; and, in some cases, I believe, not true to the original scale of the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; tiff images (a very important factor to the software in which the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ultimate images will be utilized).
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Can someone clue me in as to how I can open these large tiffs in GIMP,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; save or export them as pdf's, and preserve the original resolution (or
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; viewing quality) and the same scale?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;For windows:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://tiff.software.informer.com/download-tiff-to-dxf-convert-linux/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://tiff.software.informer.com/download-tiff-to-dxf-convert-linux/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;For Linux:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://linux.die.net/man/1/tiff2pdf&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://linux.die.net/man/1/tiff2pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Much better than relying on GIMP
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26488744</id>
	<title>Scaling large tiff files</title>
	<published>2009-11-23T16:42:45Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-23T16:42:45Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Batangisip</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">I work with a proprietary software package that imports image files (in this
&lt;br&gt;case, large tiffs containing hi-res images of architectural plans), and large
&lt;br&gt;plans, especially if you import five or six of them, tend to choke the
&lt;br&gt;application.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It was suggested that I open these images in Photoshop and save them as
&lt;br&gt;pdf's.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In PS, I can open them, save them as PDF's, task complete.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In GIMP, the same exercise yielded pdf's that were of low resolution, and, in
&lt;br&gt;some cases, I believe, not true to the original scale of the tiff images (a
&lt;br&gt;very important factor to the software in which the ultimate images will be
&lt;br&gt;utilized).
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Can someone clue me in as to how I can open these large tiffs in GIMP, save
&lt;br&gt;or export them as pdf's, and preserve the original resolution (or viewing
&lt;br&gt;quality) and the same scale?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Caruso
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26482297</id>
	<title>Re: trying to learn path tool</title>
	<published>2009-11-23T09:18:43Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-23T09:18:43Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>saulgoode</name>
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	<content type="html">Quoting Eain &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26482297&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;forums@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Apologies for such basic questions.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 1) when I have made a path to cut out a selection but before I finish if I
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; enlarge the image the anchors and connecting lines all disappear. &amp;nbsp; The undo
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; history does not seem to let me step back from this. &amp;nbsp;What is going on?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I did not experience this disappearance of the path when enlarging the &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;image; however, the path WILL disappear view if you activate a &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;different tool from the Toolbox. The path will still be there, it is &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;just hidden.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You can make the path re-appear by double-clicking on its thumbnail &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;preview in the Paths Dialog (if your Path Dialog is not visible, use &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;quot;Windows-&amp;gt;Dockable Dialogs-&amp;gt;Paths&amp;quot; to raise it). Note also that there &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;is an &amp;quot;eyeball&amp;quot; associated with the path which you can toggle (similar &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;to how you change the visibility of layers in the Layers Dialog) to &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;force the path to always be shown.
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26480586</id>
	<title>trying to learn path tool</title>
	<published>2009-11-23T07:48:57Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-23T07:48:57Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Batangisip</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Apologies for such basic questions.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1) when I have made a path to cut out a selection but before I finish if I
&lt;br&gt;enlarge the image the anchors and connecting lines all disappear. &amp;nbsp; The undo
&lt;br&gt;history does not seem to let me step back from this. &amp;nbsp;What is going on?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;2) Is this the correct forum for completely new users? &amp;nbsp;I do not wish to
&lt;br&gt;annoy the community with simplistic questions. &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Eain
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26478543</id>
	<title>Re: GIMP T-shirt design contest</title>
	<published>2009-11-23T05:59:25Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-23T05:59:25Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Ismael Barros²</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hi again,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Design submitting deadline is over, and the designs are ready to get voted.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You can vote here: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.freewear.org/?contest=gimp&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.freewear.org/?contest=gimp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Regards,
&lt;br&gt;Ismael
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26451946</id>
	<title>Re: Brush edit problem</title>
	<published>2009-11-20T15:29:50Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-20T15:29:50Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>phorgan1</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC &quot;-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN&quot;&gt;
&lt;html&gt;
&lt;head&gt;
  &lt;meta content=&quot;text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1&quot; http-equiv=&quot;Content-Type&quot;&gt;
  &lt;title&gt;&lt;/title&gt;
&lt;/head&gt;
&lt;body bgcolor=&quot;#ffffff&quot; text=&quot;#000000&quot;&gt;
Chris wrote:
&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;mid:20091120231210.BDDBD18067663@a.dev001.net&quot; type=&quot;cite&quot;&gt;
  &lt;blockquote type=&quot;cite&quot;&gt;
    &lt;pre wrap=&quot;&quot;&gt;No, but it may be impossible to have an even sized 'virtual' brush,
which is the type you're editing.
    &lt;/pre&gt;
  &lt;/blockquote&gt;
  &lt;pre wrap=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;!----&gt;

Ah OK - many thanks for both your suggestions :)&lt;/pre&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Why not use the 1x1 with scaling set to 2?&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Patrick&lt;br&gt;
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	<title>Re: Reduce or crop an image by N pixels?</title>
	<published>2009-11-20T15:22:44Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-20T15:22:44Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Akkana Peck</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">vr writes:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Oops, after poking around a bit more I realize now that the actual crop
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; tool's selector is more friendly than the selection tool selector for what
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I'm trying to do. I guess the real question I'm asking is how do you get
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; the selection tool to operate like the crop tools selector? Meaning, not go
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; outside the perimeter of the layer you want to select within?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The closest I've found is View-&amp;gt;Snap to Canvas Edges. It's not
&lt;br&gt;perfect -- you still have to be fairly careful and occasionally
&lt;br&gt;it doesn't snap at all -- but it will certainly help you avoid
&lt;br&gt;going over the edges.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In 2.6, you have to set it on each image separately. In 2.8 it will
&lt;br&gt;be possible to make that the default. &amp;nbsp;Though you may not want that;
&lt;br&gt;I find I always want it for Rect Select, but it gets in the way
&lt;br&gt;for the Move tool, so I have to keep toggling the option.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; ...Akkana
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26451765</id>
	<title>Brush edit problem</title>
	<published>2009-11-20T15:12:10Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-20T15:12:10Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Batangisip</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;No, but it may be impossible to have an even sized 'virtual' brush,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;which is the type you're editing.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ah OK - many thanks for both your suggestions :)
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26450796</id>
	<title>Re: Brush edit problem</title>
	<published>2009-11-20T13:46:18Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-20T13:46:18Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>David Gowers</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 4:00 AM, Chris &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26450796&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;forums@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I want to create a straight line that's two pixels wide. There's a brush
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; that's 1px, and another that's 3px, so I created a new brush, made it a square
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; one and selected a radius of 1.0px. If I do this, the brush appears to be 3px
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; in width.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; So I tried various values. 0.7px radius still gives me a brush that is 3px
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; wide. However, 0.6px radius gives me one that is 1px wide. I don't seem to be
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; able to find any setting that makes it 2px wide, and neither can I understand
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; the relationship between &amp;quot;radius&amp;quot; and the actual size of the brush. The same
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; thing happens with higher values - anything from 0.7 up to 1.6 gives me a
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; brush that's 3px wide, then at 1.7 it jumps to 5 pixels.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Is it impossible to have a brush that is an even number of pixels wide, and
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; if so, why?
&lt;/div&gt;No, but it may be impossible to have an even sized 'virtual' brush,
&lt;br&gt;which is the type you're editing.
&lt;br&gt;You may need to create a 2x2 grayscale image filled with black* and
&lt;br&gt;save it with a 'gbr' extension to your brushes directory.(then refresh
&lt;br&gt;the brushes dialog)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;* or is it white? one of those two.
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26449092</id>
	<title>Brush edit problem</title>
	<published>2009-11-20T11:34:46Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-20T11:34:46Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Batangisip</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&amp;gt;I want to create a straight line that's two pixels wide. There's a brush
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;that's 1px, and another that's 3px, so I created a new brush, made it a
&lt;br&gt;square
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;one and selected a radius of 1.0px. If I do this, the brush appears to be
&lt;br&gt;3px
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;in width.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;So I tried various values. 0.7px radius still gives me a brush that is 3px
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;wide. However, 0.6px radius gives me one that is 1px wide. I don't seem to
&lt;br&gt;be
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;able to find any setting that makes it 2px wide, and neither can I
&lt;br&gt;understand
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;the relationship between &amp;quot;radius&amp;quot; and the actual size of the brush. The
&lt;br&gt;same
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;thing happens with higher values - anything from 0.7 up to 1.6 gives me a
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;brush that's 3px wide, then at 1.7 it jumps to 5 pixels.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;Is it impossible to have a brush that is an even number of pixels wide, and
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;if so, why?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Better use a path and use the &amp;quot;stroke path&amp;quot; option in the paths dialog! You
&lt;br&gt;can enter a specific value there, and you can use different line types too
&lt;br&gt;(from solid to dashed and/or dotted). pretty cool...
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hope that helps ;)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- 
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26447215</id>
	<title>Brush edit problem</title>
	<published>2009-11-20T09:30:53Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-20T09:30:53Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Batangisip</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">I want to create a straight line that's two pixels wide. There's a brush
&lt;br&gt;that's 1px, and another that's 3px, so I created a new brush, made it a square
&lt;br&gt;one and selected a radius of 1.0px. If I do this, the brush appears to be 3px
&lt;br&gt;in width.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So I tried various values. 0.7px radius still gives me a brush that is 3px
&lt;br&gt;wide. However, 0.6px radius gives me one that is 1px wide. I don't seem to be
&lt;br&gt;able to find any setting that makes it 2px wide, and neither can I understand
&lt;br&gt;the relationship between &amp;quot;radius&amp;quot; and the actual size of the brush. The same
&lt;br&gt;thing happens with higher values - anything from 0.7 up to 1.6 gives me a
&lt;br&gt;brush that's 3px wide, then at 1.7 it jumps to 5 pixels.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Is it impossible to have a brush that is an even number of pixels wide, and
&lt;br&gt;if so, why?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- 
&lt;br&gt;Chris (via www.gimpusers.com)
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26446637</id>
	<title>Re: Reduce or crop an image by N pixels?</title>
	<published>2009-11-20T08:53:49Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-20T08:53:49Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>saulgoode</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Quoting vr &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26446637&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;gimp-user@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Oops, after poking around a bit more I realize now that the actual crop
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; tool's selector is more friendly than the selection tool selector for what
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I'm trying to do. I guess the real question I'm asking is how do you get
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; the selection tool to operate like the crop tools selector? Meaning, not go
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; outside the perimeter of the layer you want to select within?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I don't believe that is currently possible. If your layer is &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;completely opaque, you could perform a &amp;quot;Layer-&amp;gt;Transparency-&amp;gt;Intersect &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;with selection&amp;quot; after having making your selection (this will &amp;quot;trim&amp;quot; &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;the selection to lie within the layer's borders).
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The following script may prove a slightly better solution, as it will &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;also work with non-opaque layers. The command appears as &amp;quot;Within &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;Layer&amp;quot; under the Select Menu. (Note: if there is no selection when the &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;script is run, the entire layer will be selected.)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flashingtwelve.brickfilms.com/GIMP/Scripts/sg-select-within-layer.scm&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.flashingtwelve.brickfilms.com/GIMP/Scripts/sg-select-within-layer.scm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;_______________________________________________
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26445377</id>
	<title>Re: Reduce or crop an image by N pixels?</title>
	<published>2009-11-20T07:39:11Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-20T07:39:11Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>VR-8</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 10:03:37 -0500, vr wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I've used edit mode of a program called Thumbsplus to take an image of
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 200H x 210W and reduce image by 10W starting from the left. Is there a
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; similar feature in the crop tool of GIMP for quickly reducing a height
&lt;br&gt;or
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; width without free selecting the whole image minus 10W? When I try the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;quot;fixed&amp;quot; I seem to have trouble getting my selection area lined up with
&lt;br&gt;the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; image right side.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Oops, after poking around a bit more I realize now that the actual crop
&lt;br&gt;tool's selector is more friendly than the selection tool selector for what
&lt;br&gt;I'm trying to do. I guess the real question I'm asking is how do you get
&lt;br&gt;the selection tool to operate like the crop tools selector? Meaning, not go
&lt;br&gt;outside the perimeter of the layer you want to select within?
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26444814</id>
	<title>Reduce or crop an image by N pixels?</title>
	<published>2009-11-20T07:03:37Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-20T07:03:37Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>VR-8</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">I've used edit mode of a program called Thumbsplus to take an image of
&lt;br&gt;200H x 210W and reduce image by 10W starting from the left. Is there a
&lt;br&gt;similar feature in the crop tool of GIMP for quickly reducing a height or
&lt;br&gt;width without free selecting the whole image minus 10W? When I try the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;quot;fixed&amp;quot; I seem to have trouble getting my selection area lined up with the
&lt;br&gt;image right side.
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26437888</id>
	<title>Text on Curved Path onto Imported jpeg Image</title>
	<published>2009-11-19T19:28:35Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-19T19:28:35Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Batangisip</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hi ramana
&lt;br&gt;Thanks for your help re putting text on curved path in GIMP. You say to add a
&lt;br&gt;new layer then select from path and use the bucket tool to give the color.
&lt;br&gt;ramana what I need to know is when do I add the new layer. If you look at the
&lt;br&gt;steps I took in my initial request for help,would I add the new layer after
&lt;br&gt;getting rid of the dotted yellow lines? Meaning after View&amp;gt;&amp;gt;Show Layer
&lt;br&gt;Boundary then add a new transparent layer? If I have a new transparent layer,
&lt;br&gt;how is the software going to know to select the now curved text when it's
&lt;br&gt;under a transperant layer? If you can help thanks. Janice28
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