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Re: many-to-many

2009-12-04T00:48:07Z

On Fri, 2009-12-04 at 09:42 +0100, Michael Hasselmann wrote:
> Hi,
>
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/murrayc/4154655849/sizes/o/
>
> Nice! I havent thought about doing the formatting directly in the
> availability table. I think I will create a useful example .glom file
> from this use case, perhaps we can add that to Glom later?

Sure, though I doubt if Glom's feature set / UI is currently very good
at handling date scheduling, so I'd leave dates out of it.

I guess we use this (custom field formatting in a related record portal)
somewhere in an example already, but any documentation about it would be
good.

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Re: many-to-many

2009-12-04T00:42:32Z

Hi,

> http://www.flickr.com/photos/murrayc/4154655849/sizes/o/

Nice! I havent thought about doing the formatting directly in the
availability table. I think I will create a useful example .glom file
from this use case, perhaps we can add that to Glom later?

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Re: many-to-many

2009-12-03T03:22:28Z

On Fri, 2009-12-04 at 00:10 +1300, Andrew Ruthven wrote:

> On Thu, 2009-12-03 at 10:14 +0100, Murray Cumming wrote:
> > On Thu, 2009-12-03 at 09:31 +0100, Murray Cumming wrote:
> > > I think the bug here is that the _custom_ field formatting's choices
> > > for
> > > the portals's field only offers relationships for the parent table
> > > (People), instead of offering relationships for the field's table
> > > (Availability). I'll try to fix that bug in the UI.
> >
> > Fixed by this commit, so it will be in a future release of Glom:
> > http://git.gnome.org/cgit/glom/commit/?id=ac1f179f54bdedc1d473c1672b4e74f3c41bd17d
>
> The patch applied cleanly (apart from the changelog) to 1.12.3, but I
> still don't see the relationships from the field's table (Availability)
> table inside the portal, only the relationships for the parent (People)
> table.
>
> Does this work for you, as expected, on trunk?

Yes:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/murrayc/4154655849/sizes/o/

(I see Days and People) in that combo box. These are the relationships
for the Availability table.

I guess it might require something else from master, but I doubt it. Is
it really really installed?

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Re: Todays date in a field?

2009-12-03T03:20:46Z

On Thu, 2009-12-03 at 22:43 +1300, Andrew Ruthven wrote:

> On Thu, 2009-12-03 at 09:07 +0100, Murray Cumming wrote:
> > On Wed, 2009-12-02 at 18:30 -0200, Arq. Maximiliano Meilán wrote:
> > > try in calculated field:
> > >
> > > import time;
> > > return time.strftime( "%Y-%m-%d" );
> > >
> > > for today, works for me.
> >
> > That's not ideal. It could be recalculated at any time. You could do
> > this in a button's script, though it would be more complicated because
> > there's not yet a nice python API for setting field values:
> > http://library.gnome.org/users/glom/unstable/sec-calculated-fields.html.en#using-the-full-pygda-api
> >
> > We should probably just add a "today's date" button to the "..." date
> > selection button. It probably defaults to today's date anyway.
>
> Ugh, still a bit of an ugly hack.
>
> Can I put in a default value the PostgreSQL database to set it? Perhaps
> with a trigger on a modified column to update that? (Yeah, I'm a
> PostgreSQL guy.)

I would personally avoid using any PosgreSQL-specific feature, or doing
anything with PostgreSQL directly. There's no guarantee that Glom will
not explode now or later if you do.

> > I have been working on a branch to add date/time created/modified fields
> > to all Glom tables by default, but it became complicated so it's not
> > finished. I will need it anyway to help with a replication feature that
> > I need.
>
> Ah, that'd be handy.
>
> > However, Andre, Glom shouldn't crash. Please file a bug, ideally with
> > a .glom file attached.
>
> Sure: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=603686
>
> Cheers!
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Re: many-to-many

2009-12-03T03:10:21Z

On Thu, 2009-12-03 at 10:14 +0100, Murray Cumming wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-12-03 at 09:31 +0100, Murray Cumming wrote:
> > I think the bug here is that the _custom_ field formatting's choices
> > for
> > the portals's field only offers relationships for the parent table
> > (People), instead of offering relationships for the field's table
> > (Availability). I'll try to fix that bug in the UI.
>
> Fixed by this commit, so it will be in a future release of Glom:
> http://git.gnome.org/cgit/glom/commit/?id=ac1f179f54bdedc1d473c1672b4e74f3c41bd17d

The patch applied cleanly (apart from the changelog) to 1.12.3, but I
still don't see the relationships from the field's table (Availability)
table inside the portal, only the relationships for the parent (People)
table.

Does this work for you, as expected, on trunk?

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Re: Todays date in a field?

2009-12-03T01:43:41Z

On Thu, 2009-12-03 at 09:07 +0100, Murray Cumming wrote:

> On Wed, 2009-12-02 at 18:30 -0200, Arq. Maximiliano Meilán wrote:
> > try in calculated field:
> >
> > import time;
> > return time.strftime( "%Y-%m-%d" );
> >
> > for today, works for me.
>
> That's not ideal. It could be recalculated at any time. You could do
> this in a button's script, though it would be more complicated because
> there's not yet a nice python API for setting field values:
> http://library.gnome.org/users/glom/unstable/sec-calculated-fields.html.en#using-the-full-pygda-api
>
> We should probably just add a "today's date" button to the "..." date
> selection button. It probably defaults to today's date anyway.

Ugh, still a bit of an ugly hack.

Can I put in a default value the PostgreSQL database to set it? Perhaps
with a trigger on a modified column to update that? (Yeah, I'm a
PostgreSQL guy.)

> I have been working on a branch to add date/time created/modified fields
> to all Glom tables by default, but it became complicated so it's not
> finished. I will need it anyway to help with a replication feature that
> I need.

Ah, that'd be handy.

> However, Andre, Glom shouldn't crash. Please file a bug, ideally with
> a .glom file attached.

Sure: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=603686

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Re: many-to-many

2009-12-03T01:24:33Z

On Thu, 2009-12-03 at 10:14 +0100, Murray Cumming wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-12-03 at 09:31 +0100, Murray Cumming wrote:
> > I think the bug here is that the _custom_ field formatting's choices
> > for
> > the portals's field only offers relationships for the parent table
> > (People), instead of offering relationships for the field's table
> > (Availability). I'll try to fix that bug in the UI.
>
> Fixed by this commit, so it will be in a future release of Glom:
> http://git.gnome.org/cgit/glom/commit/?id=ac1f179f54bdedc1d473c1672b4e74f3c41bd17d

Awesome, thank you. I'll just grab the commit and recompile. :)
Hopefully it applies cleanly against 1.12.3.

> > However, as a workaround, and this is maybe better anyway: You can set
> > the _default_ field formatting for the Days ID field in the
> > Availability
> > table. The UI allows you to do that properly. Then that formatting
> > will
> > then be used everywhere, including in the portal. It seems to work. I
> > have attached a .glom example file.

Heh, a bit of an ugly work around, I'll grab the commit! :)

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Re: many-to-many

2009-12-03T01:14:40Z

On Thu, 2009-12-03 at 09:31 +0100, Murray Cumming wrote:
> I think the bug here is that the _custom_ field formatting's choices
> for
> the portals's field only offers relationships for the parent table
> (People), instead of offering relationships for the field's table
> (Availability). I'll try to fix that bug in the UI.

Fixed by this commit, so it will be in a future release of Glom:
http://git.gnome.org/cgit/glom/commit/?id=ac1f179f54bdedc1d473c1672b4e74f3c41bd17d

> However, as a workaround, and this is maybe better anyway: You can set
> the _default_ field formatting for the Days ID field in the
> Availability
> table. The UI allows you to do that properly. Then that formatting
> will
> then be used everywhere, including in the portal. It seems to work. I
> have attached a .glom example file.

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Re: many-to-many

2009-12-03T00:31:30Z

On Thu, 2009-12-03 at 09:06 +1300, Andrew Ruthven wrote:

> On Wed, 2009-12-02 at 13:20 +0100, Michael Hasselmann wrote:
> > Am Mittwoch, den 02.12.2009, 22:36 +1300 schrieb Andrew Ruthven:
> > > Hi Michael,
> > >
> > > Thank you for the prompt response. I'd managed to get that far, but
> > > now, can you make the Day field in the "remote portal layout" a
> > > drop-down list showing the Day's defined in the Day table?
> >
> > I wasn't sure how far you got but it's good to know that we look on
> > similar results now.
>
> Yeah, no worries.
>
> > > If I:
> > >
> > > 1. Right-click on it in details view,
> > > 2. Choose "Layout" from the context menu,
> > > 3. Highlight "field: days::day" and click on Formatting,
> > > 4. "Select Use custom formatting"
> > > 5. Go to Choices tab
> > > 6. "Choices From Related Records"
> > >
> > > I can't see the "Day" field in any of the drop-downs.
> >
> > odd, I just tried with my example file, and I could select a
> > "DaysID" (display name of avail::days_id). Perhaps that's because I made
> > an explicit avail::days_id to days::day_id relationship in the
> > availability table.
>
> I can see avail::days_id, but that is the ID of the day, not very
> helpful for people.

Well, I don't think you can avoid showing the days_id. The only way to
identify a record in a related table is by specifying the ID. But when
people choose an ID (a product ID, a day ID, etc), the choices drop-down
can show them another field (the product's name, the day's date, etc) as
a secondary field in that combo box.

But ideally in this case, the date itself would be the primary ID in the
days table. That's meant to be possible, but I haven't tested it much.

> Where days::day should be a drop down combo box box of allowed values.

I think the bug here is that the _custom_ field formatting's choices for
the portals's field only offers relationships for the parent table
(People), instead of offering relationships for the field's table
(Availability). I'll try to fix that bug in the UI.

However, as a workaround, and this is maybe better anyway: You can set
the _default_ field formatting for the Days ID field in the Availability
table. The UI allows you to do that properly. Then that formatting will
then be used everywhere, including in the portal. It seems to work. I
have attached a .glom example file.

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Re: Todays date in a field?

2009-12-03T00:07:09Z

On Wed, 2009-12-02 at 18:30 -0200, Arq. Maximiliano Meilán wrote:
> try in calculated field:
>
> import time;
> return time.strftime( "%Y-%m-%d" );
>
> for today, works for me.

That's not ideal. It could be recalculated at any time. You could do
this in a button's script, though it would be more complicated because
there's not yet a nice python API for setting field values:
http://library.gnome.org/users/glom/unstable/sec-calculated-fields.html.en#using-the-full-pygda-api

We should probably just add a "today's date" button to the "..." date
selection button. It probably defaults to today's date anyway.

I have been working on a branch to add date/time created/modified fields
to all Glom tables by default, but it became complicated so it's not
finished. I will need it anyway to help with a replication feature that
I need.

However, Andre, Glom shouldn't crash. Please file a bug, ideally with
a .glom file attached.

> El jue, 03-12-2009 a las 09:11 +1300, Andrew Ruthven escribió:
> > Hey,
> >
> > Another little niggle I'm working on. I've added a "notes"t table and
> > want it to have a date "created" field, which defaults to today. I've
> > tried setting "calculate value" on the field, and setting it to:
> >
> > import datetime
> >
> > return datetime.date.today()
> >
> > But when I hit the "test" button, glom crashes. Is this something that
> > people do?
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
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Re: Todays date in a field?

2009-12-02T12:30:54Z

try in calculated field:

import time;
return time.strftime( "%Y-%m-%d" );

for today, works for me.
Sorry but speak spanish

El jue, 03-12-2009 a las 09:11 +1300, Andrew Ruthven escribió:

> Hey,
>
> Another little niggle I'm working on. I've added a "notes"t table and
> want it to have a date "created" field, which defaults to today. I've
> tried setting "calculate value" on the field, and setting it to:
>
> import datetime
>
> return datetime.date.today()
>
> But when I hit the "test" button, glom crashes. Is this something that
> people do?
>
> Cheers!
>
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Todays date in a field?

2009-12-02T12:11:16Z

Hey,

Another little niggle I'm working on. I've added a "notes"t table and
want it to have a date "created" field, which defaults to today. I've
tried setting "calculate value" on the field, and setting it to:

import datetime

return datetime.date.today()

But when I hit the "test" button, glom crashes. Is this something that
people do?

Cheers!

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Re: many-to-many

2009-12-02T12:06:55Z

On Wed, 2009-12-02 at 13:20 +0100, Michael Hasselmann wrote:
> Am Mittwoch, den 02.12.2009, 22:36 +1300 schrieb Andrew Ruthven:
> > Hi Michael,
> >
> > Thank you for the prompt response. I'd managed to get that far, but
> > now, can you make the Day field in the "remote portal layout" a
> > drop-down list showing the Day's defined in the Day table?
>
> I wasn't sure how far you got but it's good to know that we look on
> similar results now.

Yeah, no worries.

> > If I:
> >
> > 1. Right-click on it in details view,
> > 2. Choose "Layout" from the context menu,
> > 3. Highlight "field: days::day" and click on Formatting,
> > 4. "Select Use custom formatting"
> > 5. Go to Choices tab
> > 6. "Choices From Related Records"
> >
> > I can't see the "Day" field in any of the drop-downs.
>
> odd, I just tried with my example file, and I could select a
> "DaysID" (display name of avail::days_id). Perhaps that's because I made
> an explicit avail::days_id to days::day_id relationship in the
> availability table.

I can see avail::days_id, but that is the ID of the day, not very
helpful for people.

> However, I can't get the days combobox inside the "remote portal layout"
> of the people details view to work. That is, when I click on a day field
> in that column I can briefly see a combobox appearing but I cant make a
> selection. I can't remember having seen that feature in any of the Glom
> example files though.
>
>
> I am quickly going to summarize your use case, from my point of view:
>
> 1. Have a people table and a days table with a N:N relationship
> represented by a common join table, avail (with additional fields for
> start/finish time for a given name and day).
>
> 2. Display the joined view of people and days in the people details
> view, using a remote portal layout showing avail.
>
> 3. Allow editing of records via the remote portal in the people details
> view, which shows as a triple of (days::day, avail::start, avail::end).
> On editing records in the remote portal it should not be possible to
> select a day that does not exist in the days table.

Where days::day should be a drop down combo box box of allowed values.

Correct.

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Re: many-to-many

2009-12-02T04:20:24Z

Am Mittwoch, den 02.12.2009, 22:36 +1300 schrieb Andrew Ruthven:
> Hi Michael,
>
> Thank you for the prompt response. I'd managed to get that far, but
> now, can you make the Day field in the "remote portal layout" a
> drop-down list showing the Day's defined in the Day table?

I wasn't sure how far you got but it's good to know that we look on
similar results now.

> If I:
>
> 1. Right-click on it in details view,
> 2. Choose "Layout" from the context menu,
> 3. Highlight "field: days::day" and click on Formatting,
> 4. "Select Use custom formatting"
> 5. Go to Choices tab
> 6. "Choices From Related Records"
>
> I can't see the "Day" field in any of the drop-downs.

odd, I just tried with my example file, and I could select a
"DaysID" (display name of avail::days_id). Perhaps that's because I made
an explicit avail::days_id to days::day_id relationship in the
availability table.

However, I can't get the days combobox inside the "remote portal layout"
of the people details view to work. That is, when I click on a day field
in that column I can briefly see a combobox appearing but I cant make a
selection. I can't remember having seen that feature in any of the Glom
example files though.

I am quickly going to summarize your use case, from my point of view:

1. Have a people table and a days table with a N:N relationship
represented by a common join table, avail (with additional fields for
start/finish time for a given name and day).

2. Display the joined view of people and days in the people details
view, using a remote portal layout showing avail.

3. Allow editing of records via the remote portal in the people details
view, which shows as a triple of (days::day, avail::start, avail::end).
On editing records in the remote portal it should not be possible to
select a day that does not exist in the days table.

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Re: many-to-many

2009-12-02T01:36:14Z

Hi Michael,

Thank you for the prompt response. I'd managed to get that far, but
now, can you make the Day field in the "remote portal layout" a
drop-down list showing the Day's defined in the Day table?

If I:

1. Right-click on it in details view,
2. Choose "Layout" from the context menu,
3. Highlight "field: days::day" and click on Formatting,
4. "Select Use custom formatting"
5. Go to Choices tab
6. "Choices From Related Records"

I can't see the "Day" field in any of the drop-downs.

Cheers!

On Tue, 2009-12-01 at 14:53 +0100, Michael Hasselmann wrote:

> Hi Andrew,
>
> I tried to follow your description, and the attachment is what I came up
> with. The trick is, once you are back in the people table after adding
> the "remote portal layout":
>
> 1. Right-click on it in details view,
> 2. Choose "Layout" from the context menu,
> 3. Click "Add field",
> 4. Check "Show related relationships" (this will enable you to use the
> relations defined in the availability table),
> 5. Select "Days > Days via days_id" and the Fields list should show a
> "Field: days::day" entry.
>
> The start/finish fields from the availability table are easy to add, as
> simple fields.
>
> I've created an example Glom file from what I did. It will contain some
> example data to give you an idea.
>
> Hope this helps,
> Michael
>
> PS: see http://taschenorakel.de/pictures/screenshots/2009/12/01/ruthven.png
> for a quick idea.

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Re: many-to-many

2009-12-01T05:53:10Z

Hi Andrew,

I tried to follow your description, and the attachment is what I came up
with. The trick is, once you are back in the people table after adding
the "remote portal layout":

1. Right-click on it in details view,
2. Choose "Layout" from the context menu,
3. Click "Add field",
4. Check "Show related relationships" (this will enable you to use the
relations defined in the availability table),
5. Select "Days > Days via days_id" and the Fields list should show a
"Field: days::day" entry.

The start/finish fields from the availability table are easy to add, as
simple fields.

I've created an example Glom file from what I did. It will contain some
example data to give you an idea.

Hope this helps,
Michael

PS: see http://taschenorakel.de/pictures/screenshots/2009/12/01/ruthven.png
for a quick idea.

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Re: many-to-many

2009-12-01T05:06:01Z

Hi Andrew,

I tried to follow your description, and the attachment is what I came up
with. The trick is, once you are back in the people table after adding
the "remote portal layout":

1. Right-click on it in details view,
2. Choose "Layout" from the context menu,
3. Click "Add field",
4. Check "Show related relationships" (this will enable you to use the
relations defined in the availability table),
5. Select "Days > Days via days_id" and the Fields list should show a
"Field: days::day" entry.

The start/finish fields from the availability table are easy to add, as
simple fields.

I've created an example Glom file from what I did. It will contain some
example data to give you an idea.

Hope this helps,
Michael

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many-to-many

2009-12-01T03:47:55Z

Hi,

I've had a search in the archives, and found this come up a couple of
times, but no solution given.

I have a many-to-many relationship, and I want to store some data with
the relationship. Is there any way to do this in Glom?

The use case is this: managing volunteers for a large conference (see
my .sig), we have a bunch of information about volunteers that we want
to track, including availability.

So, I have the following tables:

people
------
person_id
...

days
----
days_id
day

availability
------------
availability_id
person_id
day_id
start
finish

So, the availability table is joined to both people and days and stores
some extra info in there. What I'd like is a "related table" view in
the People details view. With the following options:

Day - Drop down of records in the days table, where you select "day".
Start - Time field, free-entry
Finish - Time field, free-entry

Is this possible?

So far I have the Day field as a text-entry box that does nothing. I
can't choose the "day" field as a "Choices" field since the the "Day"
table doesn't appear in the Relationship drop-down when I edit the
formatting for that column. (Gee, confused yet? I am trying to explain
it.)

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Re: windows-linux

2009-10-06T23:26:51Z

Hey,

sorry for bothering again, I had this other problem:

---ERROR---

Running as Root

You seem to be running Glom as a user with administrator privileges. Glom may not be run with such privileges for security reasons.
Please login to your system as a normal user.

-------------------

Is that necessary to make another windows account to avoid this?

Thanks

Alessio

2009/10/6 Murray Cumming <murrayc@...>

On Tue, 2009-10-06 at 15:27 +0200, alessio c wrote:
> Ok, indeed it´s not working. So, I guess I would re-done the database
> on a windows platform (it´s a 2 table easy DB).

It's only the postgres data that might not be portable.

You can recreate a .glom system from your existing .glom file by:
- On PC1: File Menu -> Save As Example
- On PC2: Open that example .glom file.

It will even include the data, which might be practical if it doesn't
contain much data yet.

>
> Pasquale, it´s not me using windows, it´s the other 90% or more
> people. Filemaker it´s great, but it´s expensive and, I have to say,
> it´s a bit more complex to create.
>
> Alessio
>
> 2009/10/6 Murray Cumming <murrayc@...>
> On Tue, 2009-10-06 at 11:56 +0200, alessio c wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Is a Glom file made on a linux platform working on windows?
>
>
> Possibly not. But you could try. If not, it could be converted
> with some difficulty.
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Re: windows-linux

2009-10-06T06:32:26Z

On Tue, 2009-10-06 at 15:27 +0200, alessio c wrote:
> Ok, indeed it´s not working. So, I guess I would re-done the database
> on a windows platform (it´s a 2 table easy DB).

It's only the postgres data that might not be portable.

You can recreate a .glom system from your existing .glom file by:
- On PC1: File Menu -> Save As Example
- On PC2: Open that example .glom file.

It will even include the data, which might be practical if it doesn't
contain much data yet.

>
> Pasquale, it´s not me using windows, it´s the other 90% or more
> people. Filemaker it´s great, but it´s expensive and, I have to say,
> it´s a bit more complex to create.
>
> Alessio
>
> 2009/10/6 Murray Cumming <murrayc@...>
> On Tue, 2009-10-06 at 11:56 +0200, alessio c wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Is a Glom file made on a linux platform working on windows?
>
>
> Possibly not. But you could try. If not, it could be converted
> with some difficulty.
>
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Re: windows-linux

2009-10-06T06:27:08Z

Ok, indeed it´s not working. So, I guess I would re-done the database on a windows platform (it´s a 2 table easy DB).

Pasquale, it´s not me using windows, it´s the other 90% or more people. Filemaker it´s great, but it´s expensive and, I have to say, it´s a bit more complex to create.

Alessio

2009/10/6 Murray Cumming <murrayc@...>

On Tue, 2009-10-06 at 11:56 +0200, alessio c wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Is a Glom file made on a linux platform working on windows?

Possibly not. But you could try. If not, it could be converted with some difficulty.

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Re: windows-linux

2009-10-06T03:25:38Z

On Tue, 2009-10-06 at 11:56 +0200, alessio c wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Is a Glom file made on a linux platform working on windows?

Possibly not. But you could try. If not, it could be converted with some difficulty.

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2009-10-06T02:56:58Z

Hi,

Is a Glom file made on a linux platform working on windows?

Alessio

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Re: Related records

2009-09-29T14:46:55Z

On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 13:16 +0200, alessio c wrote:
>
> If you have time, I also would ask if there is the possibility to open
> the related record in a new window. When I click on the folder of the
> portal it takes me to the record of the child table and it is perfect,
> but if I want to go back I should write a script for this.

If you just go back to the table via the Tables menu, then you should be
taken to the record that you were previously looking at.

Also, your related record's details layout probably has an [Open] button
next to the ID that was used in the relationship. This will take you
back to the parent record too. That might not be obvious to every user,
of course.

There is no full navigation history in Glom, though I guess this could
be done if someone wanted to code it. Likewise, at the moment there is
no way to specify that Glom should open tables in new windows.

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Re: Related records

2009-09-29T14:30:13Z

On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 10:58 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote:

> On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 09:51 +0200, alessio c wrote:
> > I keep receiving this error:
> >
> > ERROR: duplicate key value violates unique constraint "ComanyID_key"
> >
> > But my relationship are the same of the project example.
>
> I suspect that your relationship doesn't make sense somehow. For
> instance, maybe you are trying to use the related table's primary key as
> a to key from the first table. Glom would then be trying to set the
> related table's primary key to match the from field in the parent table.
>
> We should probably try to prevent you from doing this.

I have made a change in the code
http://git.gnome.org/cgit/glom/commit/?id=c291bc2bb0b2bc72ac57e8162f11749f68d45d72
which should make this clearer in future versions of Glom by preventing
you from using a primary key (or unique key) for this.

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Re: Related records

2009-09-29T01:58:15Z

On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 09:51 +0200, alessio c wrote:
> I keep receiving this error:
>
> ERROR: duplicate key value violates unique constraint "ComanyID_key"
>
> But my relationship are the same of the project example.

I suspect that your relationship doesn't make sense somehow. For
instance, maybe you are trying to use the related table's primary key as
a to key from the first table. Glom would then be trying to set the
related table's primary key to match the from field in the parent table.

We should probably try to prevent you from doing this.

I could check if you can send me the .glom file.

>
> Alessio
>
> 2009/9/29 alessio c <viandante68@...>
> Hi,
>
> I don't know if you guys have read my previous email.
>
> I am having problem in using the related records object. I
> have enabled the editing and the automatic creation of
> records, but if I create a record in the portal it doesn't
> automatically create the related foreign key.
>
> Are there any advices on how to use the portal in Glom?
> Because in Filemaker I was using it without problems, I guess
> it's only a different approach that I still don't know well.
>
> Please, some help, it's a stupid question, but there is no
> documentation on it!
>
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Re: Related records

2009-09-29T00:51:20Z

I keep receiving this error:

ERROR: duplicate key value violates unique constraint "ComanyID_key"

But my relationship are the same of the project example.

Alessio

2009/9/29 alessio c <viandante68@...>

Hi,

I don't know if you guys have read my previous email.

I am having problem in using the related records object. I have enabled the editing and the automatic creation of records, but if I create a record in the portal it doesn't automatically create the related foreign key.

Are there any advices on how to use the portal in Glom? Because in Filemaker I was using it without problems, I guess it's only a different approach that I still don't know well.

Please, some help, it's a stupid question, but there is no documentation on it!

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Related records

2009-09-29T00:11:31Z

Hi,

I don't know if you guys have read my previous email.

I am having problem in using the related records object. I have enabled the editing and the automatic creation of records, but if I create a record in the portal it doesn't automatically create the related foreign key.

Are there any advices on how to use the portal in Glom? Because in Filemaker I was using it without problems, I guess it's only a different approach that I still don't know well.

Please, some help, it's a stupid question, but there is no documentation on it!

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Re: Glom

2009-09-28T13:09:22Z

On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 14:10 -0500, Robert Feldman wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I see that you say you have released version 1.12 of Glom. Does it
> work on an N810 with Diablo? From where can it be downloaded?

No, we are focusing on Fremantle at the moment. I'm currently porting
the code to the Fremantle UI, in the maeom5 branch, though an initial
package is in maemo's extras-devel already.

> If you have time, can you try to fix the install image at
> http://maemo.org/downloads/OS2008/office-business/?org_openpsa_qbpager_org_openpsa_products_product_dba_page=3 ? Based on posts to the maemo talk, it looks like it has been broken for quite some time. Trying to install Glom gives an "missing installation application" message.

Do you have a link? talk.maemo.org is probably the worst place to report
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Re: Question

2009-09-28T08:04:49Z

On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 13:52 +0200, Marc-Andre Menard wrote:
> I have read about glom, and before going into the download or forum
> registration here is the most important question I have...
>
> I need to be able to create a database and let the customer fill it.
> The website must be fill with content from the database
>
> So I need to be able to query the database from php ,Will I be able to
> do that with your solution ?

Glom uses PostgreSQL, so you can access that from PHP as you normally
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Related records

2009-09-28T00:45:33Z

Hi,

I don't know if you guys have read my previous email.

I am having problem in using the related records object. I have enabled the editing and the automatic creation of records, but if I create a record in the portal it doesn't automatically create the related foreign key.

Are there any advices on how to use the portal in Glom? Because in Filemaker I was using it without problems, I guess it's only a different approach that I still don't know well.

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Re: Web interface

2009-09-27T23:57:35Z

On Sun, 2009-09-27 at 17:50 +0100, Martyn Shiner wrote:
>
> We do most of our work in PHP+postgresql - I have two developers
> working
> on an ERP system - maybe if we could dovetail a glom based extension
> to
> this so that we could grab data from the erp system - that'd be cool.
> I
> really like glom and a web interface for users would be great.

Sure. That would be great.

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Re: Web interface

2009-09-27T09:50:49Z

>> Have seen some stuff in the wiki and on Murray's blog about the
>> 'possibility' of a web interface to Glom for end users.
> Yes:
>
http://www.murrayc.com/blog/permalink/2009/03/24/learning-java-web-stuff/

>
>> Is this still in the works?
>
> More or less. I created a very simple proof of concepts using Java, JSP,
> and GWT:
> http://github.com/murraycu/online_glom
>
> At the moment it just shows a list of tables names in the web browser.
>
> I'm also concerned at how difficult it is to deploy JSP on cheap web
> hosting. And I'm concerned at how near impossible it is to deploy a C++
> library on cheap web hosting. But in the worst case, libglom could be
> gradually replaced with a Java reimplementation for the web UI.
>
>> Any time scales?
>
> Not really. It's hard to find time for it while also doing paying work.
> It's one of the things that I hope to find a sponsoring company for.

We do most of our work in PHP+postgresql - I have two developers working
on an ERP system - maybe if we could dovetail a glom based extension to
this so that we could grab data from the erp system - that'd be cool. I
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Re: Add multiple rows in list

2009-09-27T09:46:10Z

On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 15:07:40 +0200, Murray Cumming <murrayc@...>
wrote:

>
> Well, you can't even copy and paste a single record in Glom right now. I
> guess that could be implemented as a way to add a new record, generating
> new primary key IDs if the primary key is autogenerated.
>
> This would be much like what happens now if you export and then import.
> I'd like exporting and importing to be scriptable via python, which
> should be doable.
>
> Exporting now exports all currently-found records. though I agree that
> it would be nice to export selected rows too.

MY PKs are auto generated so this is not an issue. The python code can
access details about the record selected, right? I guess if there was some
way of selecting multiple records the python code could do the adding of
the new rows based on the selection.

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Re: New Features fro Glom?

2009-09-27T06:34:57Z

On Fri, 2009-09-25 at 16:57 -0500, Daniel Espinosa wrote:
> Then if I have a database with some tables and relations between them,
> Can I import them to Glom? I want to create an UI from Glom maybe for
> little tables and/or views can I do it?

Well, you can create a simple .glom file (for instance, by copying an
existing one and changing the database name in it), open it and add
tables. When you add a table that already exists on the server, Glom
will ask you if you want to use it. I've used that to test a very large
database.

The creation of the .glom (XML) file could be scripted quite easily with
a libgda or pygda program, I guess.

It might work. If it doesn't, we'd welcome patches. But I don't have
time to work on this feature personally.

Glom won't know anything about the relations - or can you suggest how it
could discover them via libgda.

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