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	<title>Nabble - Gnome - Love</title>
	<updated>2009-10-19T04:08:54Z</updated>
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-25956486</id>
	<title>How to fix gnome-panel item size</title>
	<published>2009-10-19T04:08:54Z</published>
	<updated>2009-10-19T04:08:54Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Santanu Chatterjee</name>
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	<content type="html">Hello Everybody,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I find the gnome panel's items to be too large (in height). Please see
&lt;br&gt;the attached screenshot (the &amp;quot;Games&amp;quot; item, for example). I would like
&lt;br&gt;to reduce the height as much as possible. I feel I should look into
&lt;br&gt;the theme's gtkrc file for this. But I could not pinpoint any
&lt;br&gt;particular line I should modify.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Could you please point me to the correct line to edit? Also, I feel
&lt;br&gt;directly editing the theme's gtkrc file is not the right way. Is there
&lt;br&gt;any file in my home directory which I should be editing so that this
&lt;br&gt;change becomes theme independent?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks in advance for your help.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Regards,
&lt;br&gt;Santanu Chatterjee
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	<title>Hello</title>
	<published>2009-10-12T01:27:49Z</published>
	<updated>2009-10-12T01:27:49Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>anjoli</name>
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	<content type="html">Hi Friends,
&lt;br&gt;I'm new in this interesting forum.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.TastyBoston.net&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;boston single women &lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</content>
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-25016923</id>
	<title>Re: Getting started</title>
	<published>2009-08-17T18:17:07Z</published>
	<updated>2009-08-17T18:17:07Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Matthew J. Fisher</name>
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	<content type="html">Thanks for the replies on this thread. I've chosen to start programming
&lt;br&gt;GTK+ with C. Once the &amp;quot;alien C&amp;quot; idiom becomes familiar it's simple
&lt;br&gt;enough. It's fun to see those GNOME desktop widgets in action.
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	<title>Re: Signal marshallers</title>
	<published>2009-08-14T02:07:42Z</published>
	<updated>2009-08-14T02:07:42Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Richard Henwood-2</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;--- On Wed, 12/8/09, Juan Rafael García Blanco &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=24968607&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;jgblanco.mail@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; From: Juan Rafael García Blanco &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=24968607&amp;i=1&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;jgblanco.mail@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Subject: [gnome-love] Signal marshallers
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; To: &lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=24968607&amp;i=2&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;gnome-love@...&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Date: Wednesday, 12 August, 2009, 4:48 PM
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hi, i'm starting learning to code on
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; the gnome platform. I have seen
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; epiphany and empathy projects, and both have a file
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; containing
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; marshallers, but i do not know what they are. I have read
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; GObject
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; information about this topic, but i get a few confused. I
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; know they
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; exist in order to communicate signals and slots, but i do
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; not know
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; why. So i wonder if you could give some other entry point
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; to this
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; issue.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Thank you very much.
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hi Juan,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Have you read through:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://library.gnome.org/devel/gobject/unstable/gobject-Signals.html&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://library.gnome.org/devel/gobject/unstable/gobject-Signals.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;? 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I don't have much experience with signals but this would seem like a good place to start.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;r,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-24939436</id>
	<title>Signal marshallers</title>
	<published>2009-08-12T08:48:49Z</published>
	<updated>2009-08-12T08:48:49Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Juan Rafael García Blanco</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hi, i'm starting learning to code on the gnome platform. I have seen
&lt;br&gt;epiphany and empathy projects, and both have a file containing
&lt;br&gt;marshallers, but i do not know what they are. I have read GObject
&lt;br&gt;information about this topic, but i get a few confused. I know they
&lt;br&gt;exist in order to communicate signals and slots, but i do not know
&lt;br&gt;why. So i wonder if you could give some other entry point to this
&lt;br&gt;issue.
&lt;br&gt;Thank you very much.
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	<title>Re: Apologies if Noise: Gnome Login Screen - &quot;Other&quot;</title>
	<published>2009-08-03T10:13:22Z</published>
	<updated>2009-08-03T10:13:22Z</updated>
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		<name>lucasagomes1-2</name>
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	<content type="html">U can personalize ur login screen changing the gdm xml, its in /usr/share/gdm/themes/&amp;lt;urtheme&amp;gt;/&amp;lt;xml&amp;gt;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If u want to change authentication of ur system, u gotta write a pam module and configure ur gdm to use ur new module in /etc/pam.d/gdm.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;Lucas.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot;&gt;On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 5:33 AM, Frank Murphy &lt;span dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;&amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=24794629&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;frankly3d@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/span&gt; wrote:&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot; style=&quot;border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;&quot;&gt;
Not a Developer, yet.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
But is there  some method to remove &amp;quot;Other&amp;quot; from the user login.&lt;br&gt;
From boxes where it is not required.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
--&lt;br&gt;
Regards, Frank&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-24793633</id>
	<title>Re: Apologies if Noise: Gnome Login Screen - &quot;Other&quot;</title>
	<published>2009-08-03T09:16:43Z</published>
	<updated>2009-08-03T09:16:43Z</updated>
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		<name>Frank Murphy (Frankly3D)-2</name>
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	<content type="html">On 03/08/09 16:03, ritz wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hi
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; On Mon, 2009-08-03 at 09:33 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote: 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Not a Developer, yet.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; But is there &amp;nbsp;some method to remove &amp;quot;Other&amp;quot; from the user login.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;From boxes where it is not required.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; you should probably try gdm-list. You seem to be using the new gdm, 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ok, thank-you
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	<title>Re: Apologies if Noise: Gnome Login Screen - &quot;Other&quot;</title>
	<published>2009-08-03T08:03:51Z</published>
	<updated>2009-08-03T08:03:51Z</updated>
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		<name>ritz-2</name>
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	<content type="html">Hi
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;On Mon, 2009-08-03 at 09:33 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote: 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Not a Developer, yet.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; But is there &amp;nbsp;some method to remove &amp;quot;Other&amp;quot; from the user login.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;From boxes where it is not required.
&lt;br&gt;you should probably try gdm-list. You seem to be using the new gdm, 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- 
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-24788782</id>
	<title>Re: Apologies if Noise: Gnome Login Screen - &quot;Other&quot;</title>
	<published>2009-08-03T03:59:31Z</published>
	<updated>2009-08-03T03:59:31Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Stefan Kost</name>
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	<content type="html">Andre Klapper schrieb:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Am Montag, den 03.08.2009, 09:33 +0100 schrieb Frank Murphy:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; But is there &amp;nbsp;some method to remove &amp;quot;Other&amp;quot; from the user login.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;From boxes where it is not required.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Which boxes do you refer to?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Can you provide an exact step-by-step description to reproduce?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; andre
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;He is talking about gdm, I guess and he would like to configure it so that it
&lt;br&gt;only shows entries from users group.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Stefan
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-24788177</id>
	<title>Re: Apologies if Noise: Gnome Login Screen - &quot;Other&quot;</title>
	<published>2009-08-03T03:03:52Z</published>
	<updated>2009-08-03T03:03:52Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Frank Murphy (Frankly3D)-2</name>
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	<content type="html">On 03/08/09 11:00, Andre Klapper wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Am Montag, den 03.08.2009, 09:33 +0100 schrieb Frank Murphy:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; But is there &amp;nbsp;some method to remove &amp;quot;Other&amp;quot; from the user login.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;From boxes where it is not required.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Which boxes do you refer to?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Can you provide an exact step-by-step description to reproduce?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; andre
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sorry Boxes =PC's
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There are users names on the greeter + other
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-24788127</id>
	<title>Re: Apologies if Noise: Gnome Login Screen - &quot;Other&quot;</title>
	<published>2009-08-03T03:00:07Z</published>
	<updated>2009-08-03T03:00:07Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Andre Klapper</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Am Montag, den 03.08.2009, 09:33 +0100 schrieb Frank Murphy:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; But is there &amp;nbsp;some method to remove &amp;quot;Other&amp;quot; from the user login.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;From boxes where it is not required.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Which boxes do you refer to?
&lt;br&gt;Can you provide an exact step-by-step description to reproduce?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;andre
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-24787134</id>
	<title>Apologies if Noise: Gnome Login Screen - &quot;Other&quot;</title>
	<published>2009-08-03T01:33:59Z</published>
	<updated>2009-08-03T01:33:59Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Frank Murphy (Frankly3D)-2</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Not a Developer, yet.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But is there &amp;nbsp;some method to remove &amp;quot;Other&amp;quot; from the user login.
&lt;br&gt;From boxes where it is not required.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- 
&lt;br&gt;Regards, Frank
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-24787078</id>
	<title>Re: Getting started</title>
	<published>2009-08-03T01:29:07Z</published>
	<updated>2009-08-03T01:29:07Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Richard Henwood-2</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;br&gt;--- On Sat, 1/8/09, Matthew J. Fisher &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=24787078&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;mfisher_ix@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; From: Matthew J. Fisher &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=24787078&amp;i=1&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;mfisher_ix@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Subject: [gnome-love] Getting started
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; To: &lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=24787078&amp;i=2&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;gnome-love@...&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Date: Saturday, 1 August, 2009, 1:21 PM
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hello,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I've been using the GNOME desktop in several different
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; distros for the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; past few years, and have an interest in learning how to
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; develop for the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; GNOME platform.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I have a small project in mind, but need some advice on
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; choice of
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; programming language.  I know C, C++, and C# but the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; tutorials I've
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; discovered so far seem to be primarily in C.  Is C
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; still the best
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; language with which to start learning GNOME development?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; The project would be a GUI alternative to the existing Lisp
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; script for
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; gNewSense &amp;quot;kernel freedom verification&amp;quot;:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://wiki.gnewsense.org/Kernel/Kfv-script&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://wiki.gnewsense.org/Kernel/Kfv-script&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I'm not a free software purist, but the gNewSense mindset
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; makes me grin
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; -- mas papista que el papa.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hi Matthew, 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This sounds like a nice project to get started with!
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I also recently started developing a Gnome application: in my case I chose Python - although I didn't have any previous experience with it.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I was able to find lots of tutorials and examples, and I have able to rapidly get a prototype application going. I've begun porting one performance critical section of the code to C, and it is proving to require significant patience - as other posters have suggested.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If I may offer one suggestion: you should familiarise yourself with the ongoing debate concerning the use of C# for Free Software [1]. When you come to share your work with a wider audience (which I hope you have ambition to do!) this topic may be raised.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Best regards,
&lt;br&gt;Richard
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1. for example: &lt;a href=&quot;http://lwn.net/Articles/341771/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://lwn.net/Articles/341771/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-24781305</id>
	<title>Re: Getting started</title>
	<published>2009-08-02T12:39:47Z</published>
	<updated>2009-08-02T12:39:47Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Javier Jardón</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">2009/8/1 Matthew J. Fisher &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=24781305&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;mfisher_ix@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hello,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hello Matthew!
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I've been using the GNOME desktop in several different distros for the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; past few years, and have an interest in learning how to develop for the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; GNOME platform.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Great :)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I have a small project in mind, but need some advice on choice of
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; programming language.  I know C, C++, and C# but the tutorials I've
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; discovered so far seem to be primarily in C.  Is C still the best
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; language with which to start learning GNOME development?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You can take a look to Vala [1] language too. Is very similar to C#
&lt;br&gt;but you don't need a special runtime environment.
&lt;br&gt;You have a tutorial [2] and a lot of examples [3] in Gnome wiki.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; The project would be a GUI alternative to the existing Lisp script for
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; gNewSense &amp;quot;kernel freedom verification&amp;quot;:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://wiki.gnewsense.org/Kernel/Kfv-script&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://wiki.gnewsense.org/Kernel/Kfv-script&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Very interesting, inform us of your progress on you new project ;)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Regards,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;[1] &lt;a href=&quot;http://live.gnome.org/Vala&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://live.gnome.org/Vala&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;[2] &lt;a href=&quot;http://live.gnome.org/Vala/Tutorial&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://live.gnome.org/Vala/Tutorial&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;[3] &lt;a href=&quot;http://live.gnome.org/Vala#head-9c728d151a2a0483d4f3b5837e5b545df9d8499d&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://live.gnome.org/Vala#head-9c728d151a2a0483d4f3b5837e5b545df9d8499d&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- 
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-24769050</id>
	<title>Re: Getting started</title>
	<published>2009-08-01T06:20:10Z</published>
	<updated>2009-08-01T06:20:10Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Robin Sonefors-2</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">On lör, 2009-08-01 at 08:21 -0400, Matthew J. Fisher wrote:
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hello,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I've been using the GNOME desktop in several different distros for the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; past few years, and have an interest in learning how to develop for the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; GNOME platform.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I have a small project in mind, but need some advice on choice of
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; programming language. &amp;nbsp;I know C, C++, and C# but the tutorials I've
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; discovered so far seem to be primarily in C. &amp;nbsp;Is C still the best
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; language with which to start learning GNOME development?
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;I would say no, unless you're really familiar with C. The C used by
&lt;br&gt;GNOME looks pretty alien in some places, and will, I think, take longer
&lt;br&gt;to figure out, compared to if you use the bindings for other languages.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I haven't really looked at the C++ bindings, but the C# bindings are in
&lt;br&gt;my opinion very good, and I found their documentation very helpful.
&lt;br&gt;MonoDevelop is also a pretty decent way to get a modern programming
&lt;br&gt;environment. However, I never had to look for beginner tutorials, since
&lt;br&gt;I understood GTK+ when I started using it, so I can't say anything about
&lt;br&gt;avability or quality there. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mono-project.com/GtkSharp&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.mono-project.com/GtkSharp&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;has
&lt;br&gt;pointers to a few tutorials and the API reference for C#.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It's also worth pointing out that the GNOME APIs are very similar
&lt;br&gt;between the different languages they support. C#, for instance, can use
&lt;br&gt;real namespaces, classes and properties, while C have to fake it, but
&lt;br&gt;that's pretty much all the difference there is. Thus, once you figure
&lt;br&gt;out the basics, you will be able to read C documentation, and use it for
&lt;br&gt;coding C# without much trouble.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Good luck!
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-24768619</id>
	<title>Getting started</title>
	<published>2009-08-01T05:21:14Z</published>
	<updated>2009-08-01T05:21:14Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Matthew J. Fisher</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hello,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I've been using the GNOME desktop in several different distros for the
&lt;br&gt;past few years, and have an interest in learning how to develop for the
&lt;br&gt;GNOME platform.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I have a small project in mind, but need some advice on choice of
&lt;br&gt;programming language. &amp;nbsp;I know C, C++, and C# but the tutorials I've
&lt;br&gt;discovered so far seem to be primarily in C. &amp;nbsp;Is C still the best
&lt;br&gt;language with which to start learning GNOME development?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The project would be a GUI alternative to the existing Lisp script for
&lt;br&gt;gNewSense &amp;quot;kernel freedom verification&amp;quot;:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://wiki.gnewsense.org/Kernel/Kfv-script&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://wiki.gnewsense.org/Kernel/Kfv-script&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I'm not a free software purist, but the gNewSense mindset makes me grin
&lt;br&gt;-- mas papista que el papa.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks in advance for any advice,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;- Matt Fisher
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-24587568</id>
	<title>Re: gtkbuilder and signals</title>
	<published>2009-07-21T06:21:51Z</published>
	<updated>2009-07-21T06:21:51Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Bugzilla from prlw1@cam.ac.uk</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 01:26:18AM +0200, Luis Menina wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Then, you just search in the help the GtkAction class. Once you're
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; there, you search the &amp;quot;activate&amp;quot; signal. And next to the signal, you
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; have the appropriate callback prototype. Is this case:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://library.gnome.org/devel/gtk/stable/GtkAction.html#GtkAction-activate&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://library.gnome.org/devel/gtk/stable/GtkAction.html#GtkAction-activate&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thank you! I went hunting in to g_objects...
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Patrick
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-24579241</id>
	<title>Re: gtkbuilder and signals</title>
	<published>2009-07-20T16:26:18Z</published>
	<updated>2009-07-20T16:26:18Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Luis Menina-2</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Patrick Welche a écrit :
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; In the move from libglade to gtkbuilder, if you pop the following in your
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; shiny new .ui file:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;lt;object class &amp;quot;GtkAction&amp;quot; id=...
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;lt;signal name=&amp;quot;activate&amp;quot; handler=&amp;quot;my_signal_handler&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; and in your code:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; gtk_builder_connect_signals(builder_pointer, my_data_pointer);
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; What does my_signal_handler actually get called as? Allegedly it is
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; void my_signal_handler(void*), but I get the feeling it's more like
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; gboolean my_signal_handler(GtkWidget *obj, void *my_data_pointer)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; How can I find out?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; (GtkWidget not GtkAction right? so gtk_action_get_name(obj) isn't going to
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; get me far?)
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hi Patrick,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Just look at the XML code: the handler my_signal_handler is called for 
&lt;br&gt;the &amp;quot;activate&amp;quot; signal on a GtkAction object.
&lt;br&gt;To know the prototype of the callback, you just need to give a look to 
&lt;br&gt;the GTK+ documentation, by launching the devhelp application (install it 
&lt;br&gt;if you didn't), or looking on the online help at
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://library.gnome.org/devel/gtk/stable/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://library.gnome.org/devel/gtk/stable/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Then, you just search in the help the GtkAction class. Once you're 
&lt;br&gt;there, you search the &amp;quot;activate&amp;quot; signal. And next to the signal, you 
&lt;br&gt;have the appropriate callback prototype. Is this case:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://library.gnome.org/devel/gtk/stable/GtkAction.html#GtkAction-activate&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://library.gnome.org/devel/gtk/stable/GtkAction.html#GtkAction-activate&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If that was another signal, and you couldnt't find it in the class, you 
&lt;br&gt;just would have to search this signal upper in the inheritance tree, 
&lt;br&gt;since it must be inherited from a parent class.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cheers,
&lt;br&gt;--
&lt;br&gt;Luis
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-24574105</id>
	<title>gtkbuilder and signals</title>
	<published>2009-07-20T10:28:13Z</published>
	<updated>2009-07-20T10:28:13Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Bugzilla from prlw1@cam.ac.uk</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">In the move from libglade to gtkbuilder, if you pop the following in your
&lt;br&gt;shiny new .ui file:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;lt;object class &amp;quot;GtkAction&amp;quot; id=...
&lt;br&gt;&amp;lt;signal name=&amp;quot;activate&amp;quot; handler=&amp;quot;my_signal_handler&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;and in your code:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;gtk_builder_connect_signals(builder_pointer, my_data_pointer);
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What does my_signal_handler actually get called as? Allegedly it is
&lt;br&gt;void my_signal_handler(void*), but I get the feeling it's more like
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;gboolean my_signal_handler(GtkWidget *obj, void *my_data_pointer)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;How can I find out?
&lt;br&gt;(GtkWidget not GtkAction right? so gtk_action_get_name(obj) isn't going to
&lt;br&gt;get me far?)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cheers,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Patrick
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-24362774</id>
	<title>new gnome-workspacetime release</title>
	<published>2009-07-06T14:03:14Z</published>
	<updated>2009-07-06T14:03:14Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Richard Henwood-2</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;br&gt;Hi Folks,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If anyone is interested, I've found some time to add a primitive visualization class for the auditing data which the previous code collected.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A (unwittingly scaled down) screenshot and 0.4.0 code available at:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://richard.henwood.googlepages.com/gnome-workspacetime&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://richard.henwood.googlepages.com/gnome-workspacetime&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There is still some way to go, but I thought I'd alert you to this new bit of code which I think starts to make the application considerably more useful. Note: this version is incompatible with the 0.3.0 release.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As ever: I welcome criticism, suggestions, patches.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;r,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-24210363</id>
	<title>advice on visualisation</title>
	<published>2009-06-25T13:18:06Z</published>
	<updated>2009-06-25T13:18:06Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Richard Henwood-2</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;br&gt;Hi Gnome-lovers,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I've been working on some code to audit my activities around the Gnome workspaces and windows. I've just released the auditing bit of the work which is intended to run as a daemon:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://richard.henwood.googlepages.com/gnome-workspacetime&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://richard.henwood.googlepages.com/gnome-workspacetime&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The next step from my perspective is to build an application/applet to complement the work of the daemon. The applet would be required to perform:
&lt;br&gt;1. analytics - what can't be done in sqlite, could be done in the app.
&lt;br&gt;2. visuisation - i'm must less clear about my choices here...
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I guess i should gtk.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What I would really like is something like google analytics - could I use a hyperlinked svg widget?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;For a first attempt, maybe some graphs using the same widgets as 'System Monitor' would be a good idea. Which widgets does 'System monitor' use for graphing?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I'd appreciate your thoughts on this,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;best regards,
&lt;br&gt;richard
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-24086109</id>
	<title>Yelp 2.27.1, Now With More Ducks</title>
	<published>2009-06-17T21:09:04Z</published>
	<updated>2009-06-17T21:09:04Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Shaun McCance-2</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">I've just released Yelp 2.27.1, Now With More Ducks.
&lt;br&gt;This coincides with gnome-doc-utils 0.17.1, Also Now
&lt;br&gt;With More Ducks. &amp;nbsp;This marks the first release with
&lt;br&gt;Mallard support built in. &amp;nbsp;And this marks the end of
&lt;br&gt;the boring part of the release announcement.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This is a huge shift in how we approach, plan, write,
&lt;br&gt;and generally work with documentation. &amp;nbsp;The entire
&lt;br&gt;community needs to be aware of what's happening and
&lt;br&gt;how it affects them. &amp;nbsp;Fellow hackers, please skip to
&lt;br&gt;the bottom for information on how this affects you.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mallard is a new[1] documentation format that is geared
&lt;br&gt;towards topic-oriented help. &amp;nbsp;While you could, in theory,
&lt;br&gt;just convert all of your DocBook documentation to Mallard,
&lt;br&gt;what you would end up with is a document that is the worst
&lt;br&gt;of both worlds. &amp;nbsp;Writing topic-based help requires a new
&lt;br&gt;way of thinking about how we present information to our
&lt;br&gt;readers.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mallard is uniquely designed from the ground up to support
&lt;br&gt;downstream modification and plugin-based help systems with
&lt;br&gt;little to no patching. &amp;nbsp;The dynamic organization structure
&lt;br&gt;of Mallard was designed with our help in mind, addressing
&lt;br&gt;the challenges we face as an upstream provider.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you're interested in writing, editing, reviewing, or
&lt;br&gt;otherwise contributing to our documentation, please get
&lt;br&gt;in touch with our team. &amp;nbsp;You can email use at
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&lt;br&gt;or join us in the #docs channel on irc.gnome.org. &amp;nbsp;Also,
&lt;br&gt;check out our brand new project blog:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.gnome.org/docs/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://blogs.gnome.org/docs/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We will be holding regular community meetings. &amp;nbsp;Stay
&lt;br&gt;tuned for more details.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you are a maintainer or active developer, know that we
&lt;br&gt;are coming for your documentation. &amp;nbsp;It might not be today,
&lt;br&gt;but it's on our radar. &amp;nbsp;If you or someone on your team
&lt;br&gt;handles your documentation independently of our team, we
&lt;br&gt;still want to be in contact to help them produce better
&lt;br&gt;help. &amp;nbsp;Writing is not a one-person task.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We hope that developers will be cooperative with our team
&lt;br&gt;as we try to provide them with better help files to make
&lt;br&gt;their software better for their users.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We also hope that more people from the greater community,
&lt;br&gt;including our downstream communities, will get involved
&lt;br&gt;with our team. &amp;nbsp;We are doing some truly exciting things
&lt;br&gt;right now, and we'd love to share the excitement.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Fearlessly,
&lt;br&gt;Shaun
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;[1] Yes, I realize I've been quacking since 2004. &amp;nbsp;But
&lt;br&gt;it's newly released, and that counts for something.
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-23841285</id>
	<title>Re: Replace gnome_help call</title>
	<published>2009-06-02T14:29:06Z</published>
	<updated>2009-06-02T14:29:06Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Nickolay V. Shmyrev</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">В Втр, 02/06/2009 в 18:59 +0200, Javi пишет:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hello,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; This is my first post in the list, so hello everyone!
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hello Javi, welcome to the GNOME-love!
&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I'm working in this GnomeGoal [1] and I'm trying to replace a
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; gnome_help call with gtk_show_uri in the gok project:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; This is the gnome help call:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; gnome_help_display_desktop (NULL, &amp;quot;gnome-access-guide&amp;quot;, helpuri,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;quot;sysadmin-37&amp;quot;, &amp;error);
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Is it
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; gtk_show_uri (NULL, &amp;quot;ghelp:gnome-access-guide?%sysadmin-37&amp;quot;,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; gtk_get_current_event_time(), &amp;error);
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; a valid replace?
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Something like this, for example gtk_get_current_event_time(), could be
&lt;br&gt;changed to GDK_CURRENT_TIME. Otherwise it's fine while it works.
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-23836654</id>
	<title>Replace gnome_help call</title>
	<published>2009-06-02T09:59:05Z</published>
	<updated>2009-06-02T09:59:05Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Javier Jardón</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hello,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This is my first post in the list, so hello everyone!
&lt;br&gt;I'm working in this GnomeGoal [1] and I'm trying to replace a
&lt;br&gt;gnome_help call with gtk_show_uri in the gok project:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This is the gnome help call:
&lt;br&gt;gnome_help_display_desktop (NULL, &amp;quot;gnome-access-guide&amp;quot;, helpuri,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;quot;sysadmin-37&amp;quot;, &amp;error);
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Is it
&lt;br&gt;gtk_show_uri (NULL, &amp;quot;ghelp:gnome-access-guide?%sysadmin-37&amp;quot;,
&lt;br&gt;gtk_get_current_event_time(), &amp;error);
&lt;br&gt;a valid replace?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Here the original code: &lt;a href=&quot;http://git.gnome.org/cgit/gok/tree/gok/main.c#n3186&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://git.gnome.org/cgit/gok/tree/gok/main.c#n3186&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thank you for your help.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;[1] &lt;a href=&quot;http://live.gnome.org/GnomeGoals/RemoveGnomeOpenGnomeHelp&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://live.gnome.org/GnomeGoals/RemoveGnomeOpenGnomeHelp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- 
&lt;br&gt;Javier Jardón Cabezas
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-23677046</id>
	<title>Re: Empathy Installation</title>
	<published>2009-05-22T13:00:08Z</published>
	<updated>2009-05-22T13:00:08Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Robin Sonefors-2</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Most likely, your manually built telepathy-glib got installed
&lt;br&gt;to /usr/local, and your distributor built version (the one from
&lt;br&gt;apt/yum/whatever) is in /usr. If I'm right, the
&lt;br&gt;file /usr/lib/pkgconfig/telepathy-glib.pc says it's version 0.7.26,
&lt;br&gt;and /usr/local/lib/pkgconfig/telepathy-glib.pc says it's 0.7.27 (or
&lt;br&gt;whatever you installed).
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;To include the file in /usr/local, run the configure script like:
&lt;br&gt;PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/usr/local/lib/pkgconfig:$PKG_CONFIG_PATH ./configure
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You can also run
&lt;br&gt;export PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/usr/local/lib/pkgconfig:$PKG_CONFIG_PATH
&lt;br&gt;and after running that, you can just run ./configure as usual.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;On lör, 2009-05-23 at 01:02 +0530, shirish wrote:
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hello,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I have downloaded empathy from git and tried installing it to work
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; upon the love bugs posted in the gnome love bugs by Xavier Claessens
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; but i am unable to install it as it says 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;quot;Requested 'telepathy-glib &amp;gt;= 0.7.27' but version of Telepathy-GLib is
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 0.7.26&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; i have downloaded the tar.gz file and installed it proving it to be
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; futile effort
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; it says to manually set the pkg-conf path for non standard
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; installations and i am unable to do that can any one guide me through.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; cheers,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; shirish
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-23676700</id>
	<title>Empathy Installation</title>
	<published>2009-05-22T12:32:07Z</published>
	<updated>2009-05-22T12:32:07Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>shirish a</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hello,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I have downloaded empathy from git and tried installing it to work upon the love bugs posted in the gnome love bugs by Xavier Claessens but i am unable to install it as it says &lt;br&gt;&amp;quot;Requested &amp;#39;telepathy-glib &amp;gt;= 0.7.27&amp;#39; but version of Telepathy-GLib is 0.7.26&amp;quot;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;i have downloaded the tar.gz file and installed it proving it to be futile effort&lt;br&gt;it says to manually set the pkg-conf path for non standard installations and i am unable to do that can any one guide me through.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;cheers,&lt;br&gt;shirish&lt;br&gt;
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-23568630</id>
	<title>Re: force mount option</title>
	<published>2009-05-15T16:13:09Z</published>
	<updated>2009-05-15T16:13:09Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Christian Kirbach-2</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">On Fri, 15 May 2009 11:55:47 +0200, Varrun Ramani &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=23568630&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;varrunr@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I would like to add a feature to the GNOME Project viz. adding a FORCE &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Mount
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; option to the existing window that crops up when a disk formatted in &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ntfs is
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; not safely removed in windows. The only existing solution is mounting
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I am not a good programming advisor but wouldn't it be saver to mount the
&lt;br&gt;partition read-only?
&lt;br&gt;Additionally an integrity check should be performed on the not-unmounted &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;partition to ensure
&lt;br&gt;file system integrity before mounting read-write.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- 
&lt;br&gt;Christian Kirbach
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-23556729</id>
	<title>force mount option</title>
	<published>2009-05-15T02:55:47Z</published>
	<updated>2009-05-15T02:55:47Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Varrun Ramani</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hi&lt;br&gt;Im Varrun, a student of Amrita University,Amritapuri. I am new to the mailing list.&lt;br&gt;I would like to add a feature to the GNOME Project viz. adding a FORCE Mount option to the existing window that crops up when a disk formatted in ntfs is not safely removed in windows. The only existing solution is mounting through the command line with the -o force option.It is currently very inconvenient to do so and also a headache for newbies. I wish to implement it.&lt;br&gt;
I would be glad if anyone could guide me in doing so in any way possible&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks &amp;amp; Regards&lt;br&gt;Varrun Ramani &lt;br&gt;
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-23189844</id>
	<title>Re: Undefined SSL symbols when linking against libgnomevfs</title>
	<published>2009-04-22T20:54:01Z</published>
	<updated>2009-04-22T20:54:01Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>James Andrewartha-3</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">[ Actually cc:ing {desktop,&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=23189844&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;tools}-discuss@...&lt;/a&gt; ]
&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;The biggest blocker at the moment is
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; libgnomevfs-2.so being linked against libssl, causing undefined symbol
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; errors when linking binaries linked against libgnomevfs-2.so.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; [...]
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; This looks like the GNU ld vs Sun ld linker problem mentioned on
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://wikis.sun.com/display/SolarisDeveloper/Issues+when+porting+OpenSource+projects+to+Solaris&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://wikis.sun.com/display/SolarisDeveloper/Issues+when+porting+OpenSource+projects+to+Solaris&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=532093&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=532093&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;because libssl.so
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; is in
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; /usr/sfw/lib and no -L -R options are passed. I thought the way to deal
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; with
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; this would be to edit gnome-vfs-2.0.pc and add -L/usr/sfw/lib
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; -R/usr/sfw/lib
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; to Libs, but I checked the gnome-vfs-2.0.pc file from
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; SUNWgnome-vfs-devel and it doesn't have that in Libs, so I'm not sure
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; what the correct solution
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; is, and how compiling against /usr/lib/libgnomevfs-2.so works.
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;I poked around the libraries with objdump, and found this difference:
&lt;br&gt;jhbuilt libgnomevfs-2.so:
&lt;br&gt;00000000 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; *UND* &amp;nbsp;00000000 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;SSL_new
&lt;br&gt;Sun built libgnomevfs-2.so:
&lt;br&gt;00000000 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; F *UND* &amp;nbsp;00000000 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;SSL_new
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The objdump manpage says F indicates the symbol is the name of a function,
&lt;br&gt;and a space indicates it's &amp;quot;just a normal symbol&amp;quot;. So I guess it's some
&lt;br&gt;linker option that's causing this. The Sun build [1] adds &amp;quot;-Wl,-zignore
&lt;br&gt;-Wl,-zcombreloc -Wl,-Bdirect&amp;quot; to LDFLAGS, is one of these what sets the
&lt;br&gt;function flag?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; unfortunately I don't have any experience whatsoever compiling stuff for
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; this environment, so I cannot point you to the right solution. I would
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; send this question to a mailing list more subscribers, since that way you
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; have a better chance to find someone with experience on this specific
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; field. I think gnome-love could be a good place for that.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ok, cc:ed gnome-love and opensolaris tools-discuss.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;[1] &lt;a href=&quot;http://src.opensolaris.org/source/xref/jds/spec-files/trunk/include/Solaris.inc#59&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://src.opensolaris.org/source/xref/jds/spec-files/trunk/include/Solaris.inc#59&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- 
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-23174641</id>
	<title>Re: Undefined SSL symbols when linking against libgnomevfs</title>
	<published>2009-04-22T04:43:15Z</published>
	<updated>2009-04-22T04:43:15Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>James Andrewartha-3</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=23174641&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;itoral@...&lt;/a&gt; wrote:
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hi James,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Hi,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; We're compiling GNOME on SXCE/SPARC using jhbuild with the intention of
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; joining the GNOME Build Brigade [1].
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; That would be nice.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;The biggest blocker at the moment is
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; libgnomevfs-2.so being linked against libssl, causing undefined symbol
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; errors when linking binaries linked against libgnomevfs-2.so.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; [...]
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; This looks like the GNU ld vs Sun ld linker problem mentioned on
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://wikis.sun.com/display/SolarisDeveloper/Issues+when+porting+OpenSource+projects+to+Solaris&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://wikis.sun.com/display/SolarisDeveloper/Issues+when+porting+OpenSource+projects+to+Solaris&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=532093&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=532093&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;because libssl.so
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; is in
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; /usr/sfw/lib and no -L -R options are passed. I thought the way to deal
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; with
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; this would be to edit gnome-vfs-2.0.pc and add -L/usr/sfw/lib
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; -R/usr/sfw/lib
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; to Libs, but I checked the gnome-vfs-2.0.pc file from
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; SUNWgnome-vfs-devel and it doesn't have that in Libs, so I'm not sure
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; what the correct solution
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; is, and how compiling against /usr/lib/libgnomevfs-2.so works.
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;I poked around the libraries with objdump, and found this difference:
&lt;br&gt;jhbuilt libgnomevfs-2.so:
&lt;br&gt;00000000 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; *UND* &amp;nbsp;00000000 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;SSL_new
&lt;br&gt;Sun built libgnomevfs-2.so:
&lt;br&gt;00000000 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; F *UND* &amp;nbsp;00000000 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;SSL_new
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The objdump manpage says F indicates the symbol is the name of a function,
&lt;br&gt;and a space indicates it's &amp;quot;just a normal symbol&amp;quot;. So I guess it's some
&lt;br&gt;linker option that's causing this. The Sun build [1] adds &amp;quot;-Wl,-zignore
&lt;br&gt;-Wl,-zcombreloc -Wl,-Bdirect&amp;quot; to LDFLAGS, is one of these what sets the
&lt;br&gt;function flag?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; unfortunately I don't have any experience whatsoever compiling stuff for
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; this environment, so I cannot point you to the right solution. I would
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; send this question to a mailing list more subscribers, since that way you
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; have a better chance to find someone with experience on this specific
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; field. I think gnome-love could be a good place for that.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ok, cc:ed gnome-love and opensolaris tools-discuss.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;[1]
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://src.opensolaris.org/source/xref/jds/spec-files/trunk/include/Solaris.inc#59&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://src.opensolaris.org/source/xref/jds/spec-files/trunk/include/Solaris.inc#59&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- 
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-23120566</id>
	<title>Re: gnome-panel properties</title>
	<published>2009-04-19T01:15:35Z</published>
	<updated>2009-04-19T01:15:35Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>L'Isla</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 05:36:58AM +0400, Nickolay V. Shmyrev wrote:
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; В Чтв, 16/04/2009 в 17:27 -0700, Sandman пишет:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; Hi,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; In the gnome-panel &amp;quot;Panel properties&amp;quot; dialog box, if the &amp;quot;Show hide
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; buttons&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Arrows on hide buttons&amp;quot; options are toggled ON
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; (checked), i am unable to shrink the panel below 24 pixels. If the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;quot;Arrows on hide buttons&amp;quot; is unchecked everything works as its supposed
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; to.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; Here is my current setup:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; Distro: Ubuntu 9.04 (beta) using gnome-panel v2.26.0
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; Screens: Dual screen with Nvidia GeForce 7600. Main screen has a
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; resolution of 1280x1024 and this is the screen on which I have the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; lone panel at the top of the screen.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; Launchers &amp; Applets (left to right): Main Menu (button, not the bar),
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; Firefox, Gnome-Terminal, Window List, Desktop Switcher, System
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; Monitor, Network Monitor, Volume Control, Date/Time applet, User
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; Switcher.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; Font Sizes: 8px.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; I assume this has something to do with the arrow image at the ends of
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; the panel. Maybe the size of that image cannot be shrunk below 24px?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; I tried looking at the code and found the in the function *
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; panel_toplevel_check_resize () * the call to gtk_widget_size_request
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; () returns a GtkRequsition struct with height=24px for all sizes below
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; (and including) 24px. How does gtk_widget_size_request() determine
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; this size??
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; This is not a hindrance but it does make the interface a little
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; awkward. I would think that if the size of the panel cannot be reduced
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; below 24px (when the &amp;quot;Arrows on hide button&amp;quot; option is selected), the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; option of entering a lower size should not exist.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; Can anyone tell me whether or not this behavior is intentional and
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; why?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hi Sandman
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Yes, arrows explicitely set their size in panel code:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; case GTK_ARROW_UP:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; gtk_widget_set_size_request (button, -1, arrow_size);
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; When toplevel calls size_request it actually asks for size request for
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; all child widgets and returns some combination of them (maximum), that's
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; why minimal size request from arrow turns to be the minimum size of the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; panel.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; The default value for arrow-size is 20, not 24, although things may
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; change. You can change this value either in source code:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; #define DEFAULT_ARROW_SIZE &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;20 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; or with gtkrc file by settting panel's arrow-size property. Google for
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; PanelToplevel::arrow-size to get the samples.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I'm not sure this behavior needs to be fixed, but it is indeed discussed
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; many times on various forums. Probably this restrictions should be made
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; more flexible.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hi Nikolay,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks a lot for your reply. I found the #define in the code.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I appreciate your help.
&lt;br&gt;Take care.
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-23118920</id>
	<title>Re: gnome-panel properties</title>
	<published>2009-04-18T18:36:58Z</published>
	<updated>2009-04-18T18:36:58Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Nickolay V. Shmyrev</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">В Чтв, 16/04/2009 в 17:27 -0700, Sandman пишет:
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hi,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; In the gnome-panel &amp;quot;Panel properties&amp;quot; dialog box, if the &amp;quot;Show hide
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; buttons&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Arrows on hide buttons&amp;quot; options are toggled ON
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; (checked), i am unable to shrink the panel below 24 pixels. If the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;quot;Arrows on hide buttons&amp;quot; is unchecked everything works as its supposed
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; to.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Here is my current setup:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Distro: Ubuntu 9.04 (beta) using gnome-panel v2.26.0
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Screens: Dual screen with Nvidia GeForce 7600. Main screen has a
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; resolution of 1280x1024 and this is the screen on which I have the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; lone panel at the top of the screen.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Launchers &amp; Applets (left to right): Main Menu (button, not the bar),
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Firefox, Gnome-Terminal, Window List, Desktop Switcher, System
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Monitor, Network Monitor, Volume Control, Date/Time applet, User
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Switcher.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Font Sizes: 8px.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I assume this has something to do with the arrow image at the ends of
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; the panel. Maybe the size of that image cannot be shrunk below 24px?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I tried looking at the code and found the in the function *
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; panel_toplevel_check_resize () * the call to gtk_widget_size_request
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; () returns a GtkRequsition struct with height=24px for all sizes below
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; (and including) 24px. How does gtk_widget_size_request() determine
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; this size??
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; This is not a hindrance but it does make the interface a little
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; awkward. I would think that if the size of the panel cannot be reduced
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; below 24px (when the &amp;quot;Arrows on hide button&amp;quot; option is selected), the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; option of entering a lower size should not exist.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Can anyone tell me whether or not this behavior is intentional and
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; why?
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Hi Sandman
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yes, arrows explicitely set their size in panel code:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; case GTK_ARROW_UP:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; gtk_widget_set_size_request (button, -1, arrow_size);
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;When toplevel calls size_request it actually asks for size request for
&lt;br&gt;all child widgets and returns some combination of them (maximum), that's
&lt;br&gt;why minimal size request from arrow turns to be the minimum size of the
&lt;br&gt;panel.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The default value for arrow-size is 20, not 24, although things may
&lt;br&gt;change. You can change this value either in source code:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;#define DEFAULT_ARROW_SIZE &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;20 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;or with gtkrc file by settting panel's arrow-size property. Google for
&lt;br&gt;PanelToplevel::arrow-size to get the samples.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I'm not sure this behavior needs to be fixed, but it is indeed discussed
&lt;br&gt;many times on various forums. Probably this restrictions should be made
&lt;br&gt;more flexible.
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	<title>gnome-panel properties</title>
	<published>2009-04-16T17:27:50Z</published>
	<updated>2009-04-16T17:27:50Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>L'Isla</name>
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	<content type="html">Hi,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In the gnome-panel &amp;quot;Panel properties&amp;quot; dialog box, if the &amp;quot;Show hide buttons&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Arrows on hide buttons&amp;quot; options are toggled ON (checked), i am unable to shrink the panel below 24 pixels. If the &amp;quot;Arrows on hide buttons&amp;quot; is unchecked everything works as its supposed to.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Here is my current setup:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Distro: Ubuntu 9.04 (beta) using gnome-panel v2.26.0
&lt;br&gt;Screens: Dual screen with Nvidia GeForce 7600. Main screen has a resolution of 1280x1024 and this is the screen on which I have the lone panel at the top of the screen.
&lt;br&gt;Launchers &amp; Applets (left to right): Main Menu (button, not the bar), Firefox, Gnome-Terminal, Window List, Desktop Switcher, System Monitor, Network Monitor, Volume Control, Date/Time applet, User Switcher.
&lt;br&gt;Font Sizes: 8px.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I assume this has something to do with the arrow image at the ends of the panel. Maybe the size of that image cannot be shrunk below 24px?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I tried looking at the code and found the in the function * panel_toplevel_check_resize () * the call to gtk_widget_size_request () returns a GtkRequsition struct with height=24px for all sizes below (and including) 24px. How does gtk_widget_size_request() determine this size??
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This is not a hindrance but it does make the interface a little awkward. I would think that if the size of the panel cannot be reduced below 24px (when the &amp;quot;Arrows on hide button&amp;quot; option is selected), the option of entering a lower size should not exist.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Can anyone tell me whether or not this behavior is intentional and why?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks and take care.
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-23038886</id>
	<title>Re: Gnome Panel</title>
	<published>2009-04-14T05:52:12Z</published>
	<updated>2009-04-14T05:52:12Z</updated>
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		<name>Calum Benson</name>
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	<content type="html">&lt;br&gt;On 14 Apr 2009, at 10:32, Sandman wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hi, I have a few questions regarding the gnome-panel source code. Is &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; there a separate list for the panel or can I post my questions to &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; this list.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There's no separate list for the panel. &amp;nbsp;So you can ask here, but &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;since your question is about the code, desktop-devel-list might also &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;be appropriate.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cheeri,
&lt;br&gt;Calum.
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-23036199</id>
	<title>Gnome Panel</title>
	<published>2009-04-14T02:32:03Z</published>
	<updated>2009-04-14T02:32:03Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>L'Isla</name>
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	<content type="html">Hi, I have a few questions regarding the gnome-panel source code. Is there a separate list for the panel or can I post my questions to this list.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks.
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