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Enhancement of the gnome-search-tool

2009-12-09T21:54:27Z

Hello list !!
I am new to this list, and very new to desktop search too. Please pardon me any behavior not suited to the list.
I am still reading a lot to know the exact search process. My doubts (and they are a lot !) are hence very basic.
As users me and my friends are not very much impressed by the default search in GNOME (by the gnome-search-tool), and I aim at enhancing that tool. Even after a lot of googling I am yet to find out what indexing process does gnome-search-tool use as a backend.So can anyone please tell me the search engine used by the tool ?
I have also been through the beagle architecture and got to know that it uses the LUCENE search engine at core. But I could not get to know what search engine does tracker use, hope you people can tell me.
In the gnome-love list people said that gnome-search-tool "probably" uses libbeagle and libtracker. Is it true ? If it is, then why both ?? Any one could do !
Earlier I always had a thought that gnome-search used the "find" or "locate" utility in linux,but after going through it's source, I discovered I was wrong. But I feel even the "find" utility must be making an index for its use....cant we simply use it ?

Hope you people will help me out soon !
Thanks in anticipation.
Deepak Mishra

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Enhancement of the gnome-search-tool

2009-12-09T04:12:46Z

Re: gnome-dictionary applet behind a firewall

2009-11-04T03:30:09Z

On 4 Nov 2009, at 09:45, Indraneel Mukherjee wrote:

> Hi,
> I'm trying to use the gnome-dictionary applet in my office where
> definitely
> there's some kind of firewall that's blocking out many ports.
>
> So, is it possible to get the gnome-dictionary-applet working from
> behind a
> firewall?

Only by setting up your own dictionary server inside the firewall
(this is what we had to do for a while when our office blocked DICT
traffic), or finding a dictionary server outside the firewall that
listened on a port that your firewall permitted.

Alternatively, of course, you try nicely asking your sysadmin to open
the DICT port in the firewall :) (UDP port 2628, IIRC).

Cheeri,
Calum.

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gnome-dictionary applet behind a firewall

2009-11-04T01:45:18Z

Hi,
I'm trying to use the gnome-dictionary applet in my office where definitely there's some kind of firewall that's blocking out many ports.

So, is it possible to get the gnome-dictionary-applet working from behind a firewall?

Or will it require some changes to the code base of gnome-dictionary-applet?

Regards,
Indro

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Re: (Gnome-screenshot) about included pointer

2009-10-24T07:54:36Z

I have filed report. Thank you.
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Re: (Gnome-screenshot) about included pointer

2009-10-24T06:11:48Z

On Sat, 2009-10-24 at 15:08 +0200, Cosimo Cecchi wrote:

> On Sat, 2009-10-24 at 21:04 +0900, threewayhandshake@... wrote:
> > Hello,
> > Gnome-screenshot always composite only left-arrow cursor,
> > while GIMP uses XFixes and composite right style cursor.
> > I want Gnome-screenshot to composite right cursor as like GIMP.
>
> Hi,
>
> please file a bug report in the GNOME Bugzilla [1], gnome-utils product,
> screenshot component.

Whoops, forgot the link: https://bugzilla.gnome.org

Cosimo

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Re: (Gnome-screenshot) about included pointer

2009-10-24T06:08:42Z

On Sat, 2009-10-24 at 21:04 +0900, threewayhandshake@... wrote:
> Hello,
> Gnome-screenshot always composite only left-arrow cursor,
> while GIMP uses XFixes and composite right style cursor.
> I want Gnome-screenshot to composite right cursor as like GIMP.

Hi,

please file a bug report in the GNOME Bugzilla [1], gnome-utils product,
screenshot component.

Cheers,

Cosimo

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(Gnome-screenshot) about included pointer

2009-10-24T05:04:17Z

Hello,
Gnome-screenshot always composite only left-arrow cursor,
while GIMP uses XFixes and composite right style cursor.
I want Gnome-screenshot to composite right cursor as like GIMP.
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Re: Character Palette: country-specific palettes?

2009-10-06T01:40:10Z

[As gnome-applets releases are always announced on gnome-utils-list,
I've cc'ed this message there.]

Hi Sietse,

Op dinsdag 06-10-2009 om 01:50 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Sietse
Brouwer:

> Does anybody think they could implement (2) or (3)? Me, I'm not much
> of a programmer, and I'm afraid I don't know how to do either one.
> I've started on (1) already: I'm making a list of the special
> characters of the languages that Gnome supports. See my work so far
> here:
> http://www.math.leidenuniv.nl/~sbrouwer/char-pick.txt

Could you put that in bugzilla please?

> I'll continue with that, and see if I can get it into the source
> code's charpick.c, and compile. (Yes, the default palettes are defined
> in source rather than in a config file. I don't know where user-made
> palettes are stored.)

Probably somewhere in gconf. Anyhow, there's also a bug about the
compiled-in palettes already:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=342259

> Idea: for the capital letters (awaiting a Shift-click implementation):
> don't put them into the language palettes, but make a small number of
> 'all caps' palettes, e.g. ÁÉÍÓÚÀÈÌÒÙ

Agreed, but as Shift-click is not very discoverable I think we should
keep capitals in the palettes anyway. Getting capitals with Shift-click
is nice, but a power user feature.

> Anybody have an idea of how to user-test the final palettes?

Asking on the gnome-i18n list would be a good start. :-)

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[BAOBAB] Feature request

2009-10-05T15:58:53Z

Hello,

I would like to have a feature in baobab so I can see how old my files are. It would be nice to see an histogram showing files that have 1 year old, 2 years old, etc..

What do you think?

Best regards,

Pedro Saraiva

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gnome-applets branched for 2.28.0

2009-09-25T20:50:57Z

Branched with name gnome-2-28.

Notes to i18n: I had to fiddle with fa.po, ka.po and ky.po to get it
past the checks git does when creating a new branch on the server.

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gnome-utils branched for 2.28

2009-09-22T01:49:25Z

hi everyone;

gnome-utils has been branched for GNOME 2.28, under the usual gnome-2-28
branch name. development will continue on master.

side note for gnome-i18n: I had to fuzzy two strings in the si and ka PO
files in order to branch. both PO files have been removed from the
LINGUAS list (they are present in the tarball for 2.28.0, as the tarball
was prepared from master before branching).

ciao,
Emmanuele.

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gnome-applets 2.28.0

2009-09-21T02:25:36Z

Finally, the first stable release of the 2.28 series.

Changes in GNOME-Applets 2.28.0 (from 2.27.92)
==============================================

Stickynotes:
- Prevent crash with recent GTK+ due to .ui problems (Callum McKenzie).
Invest Applet:
- Prevent loss of stock data when the update failes (Enrico Minack).

Translation Updates:
Assamese Breton, British, Chinese, Czech, Danish, German, Greek, Hungarian,
Kannada, Lithuanian, Marathi, Oriya, Romanian, Slovenian, Swedish, Telugu,
Ukranian

Get it from:

http://download.gnome.org/sources/gnome-applets/2.28/

- Callum

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gnome-applets 2.27.92

2009-09-08T03:49:10Z

Changes in GNOME-Applets 2.27.92
================================

Invest Applet:
- Refreshing no longer hangs (Enrico Minack).
- Better debugging support (Enrico Minack).
General:
- Autogenerate .gitignore (Luca Ferretti).

Translation Updates:
Basque, Bengali, Brazilian Portugese, French, Gujarati, Hebrew, Hungarian,
Italian, Malayalam, Polish, Punjabi, Serbian, Tamil, Turkish

Get it from:

http://download.gnome.org/sources/gnome-applets/2.27/

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gnome-applets 2.27.91

2009-08-25T02:32:33Z

Changes in GNOME-Applets 2.27.91
================================

CPU Frequency Applet:
- Port to PolicyKit 1.0.
Invest-Applet:
- Remover the 3 year chart in favour of a 5 year one which
actually works (Enrico Minack).
Mini-Commander:
- Catch gconf errors during install (Callum McKenzie).

Translation Updates:
Arabic, Brazialian Portugese, Breton, Bulgarian, Catalan, Czech,
Estonian, Finnish, Galician, German, Hindi, Irish, Italian, Korean,
Norwegian, Oriya, Spanish, Swedish, Thai

Get it from:

http://download.gnome.org/sources/gnome-applets/2.27/

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gnome-applets 2.27.4

2009-07-29T02:24:38Z

Another release of the GNOME applets collection. Thanks to Enrico
Minack, there has been a nice bundle of invest applet love.

Be warned that mini-commander may not install. The problem is being
investigated.

Aside from that, get it from:

http://download.gnome.org/sources/gnome-applets/2.27/

ChangeLog follows.

- Callum

Changes in GNOME-Applets 2.27.4
===============================

General:
- Clean up GTK+ includes (Luis Menina).
- Fix the NetworkManager autoconf script (Callum McKenzie).
Invest Applet:
- Allow the user to add their own labels as well as the ticker
symbol (Enrico Minack).
- Fix a crasher (Enrico Minack).
- Make the selction of stocks nicer (Enrico Minack).
- Select the newly added stock for editing (Enrico Minack).
Stickynotes:
- Only save when we need to, not repeatedly (Callum McKenzie).
Trash Applet:
- Move markup out of the translatable strings.

Translation Updates:
Czech, Estonian, Finnish, French, Hebrew, Spanish, Swedish, Tamil,
Ukrainian

Documentation Translation Updates:
Czech, Finnish
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[proposal] Merge istanbul into gnome-screenshot or include it in gnome-utils?

2009-07-27T00:39:34Z

http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=589841

There lacks a good desktop recording program that uses gstreamer for screencasts and including this functionality in a screenshot application seems apropriate.

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gnome-applets-2.26.3

2009-06-28T23:54:24Z

This is mostly translation updates, plus one bug fix for those
(rightfully) annoyed the by stickynotes preferences dialog.

Get it from:

http://download.gnome.org/sources/gnome-applets/2.26/

- Callum

Changes in GNOME-Applets 2.26.3
====================ech===========

Stickynotes:
- Don't close the prefs dialog when a check-mark is toggled
(Sergey Rudchenko, bug 567477).

Translation Updates:
Bengali, Hindi, Japanese, Swedish

Documentation Translation Updates:
Catalan, Czech

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gnome-applets 2.27.3

2009-06-17T04:58:10Z

Its only a few days late this time, get it from:

http://download.gnome.org/sources/gnome-applets/2.27/

- Callum

Changes in GNOME-Applets 2.27.3
===============================

Note that the ChangeLog is now automatically updated from the git
logs. This should correct the missing entries for the last release.

General:
- Use of NetworkManager can now be turned off via the
--disable-networkmanager argument to configure (Romain Perier, 578951).
- Use quadrigraphs in configure.in messages to reduce quoting (Callum
McKenzie).
- Add support for the pulse website to our documentatio (Paul Cutler,
577197).
Character Picker:
- Accurate documentation about adding palettes (Lucas Lommer, 584238).
Sticky Notes:
- Don't close the prefs dialog when a check-mark is toggled (Sergey
Rudchenko, 567477).
Weather Applet:
- Fix network state detection (Matthias Clasen, 579098).

Translation Updates:
Bengali, Estonian, Hebrew, Hindi, Norwegian bokmål, Spanish, Tamil

Documentation Translation Updates:
Chinese, Czech
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[ANNOUNCE] GNOME Utilities 2.27.2 - "Dress"

2009-06-15T10:40:58Z

Hi everyone,

this is the second unstable release of the gnome-utils package, for the
2.27 release cycle.

Here is a summary of the most important changes:
* GNOME Utilities is now 100% libgnome-*-free, which will help
us to conquer the world.
* logview now translates the last update time

Thanks to everyone involved in this release; following is a log of the
changes that have taken place since 2.27.1.

Cheers,

Cosimo

-----------------------------------------------------------------------

A S Alam (1):
updating Translation for Gurmukhi

Ask H. Larsen (1):
Updated Danish translation

Claude Paroz (1):
Updated French translation

Cosimo Cecchi (2):
[logview] translate last update time
[build] patch autogen.sh to make gtk-doc happy

Dennis Cranston (9):
[build] Remove libgnomedesktop, Add gio-unix
[gsearchtool] Bug 582785: remove libgnome
[gsearchtool] MAINTAINER_CFLAGS
[gsearchtool] Bug 573670
[gsearchtool] Bug 573670 -- Add eggsmclient
[gsearchtool] Bug 573670 -- Add custom entry
[gsearchtool] Bug 573670 -- ChangeLog
[gsearchtool] ChangeLog
[gsearchtool] Add EGGSMCLIENT _LIBS & _CFLAGS

Emmanuele Bassi (2):
Post-release bump to 2.27.2
[docs] Document the release process

Fotis Tsamis (1):
updated Greek documentation translation for logview

Ivar Smolin (2):
Updating Estonian translation
Updating Estonian translation

Jorge Gonzalez (1):
Updated Spanish translation

Kjartan Maraas (1):
Updated Norwegian bokmål translation.

Michael Terry (1):
Command line parsing cleanups; add --version

Nathan-J. Hirschauer (1):
Updated German translation.

drtvasudevan (2):
Updated Tamil translation
Updated Tamil translation

Βασίλης Κοντογιάνης (1):
Updated Greek translation for baobab documentation

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Re: baobab patch [Was: Re: [ANNOUNCE] GNOME Utilities 2.25.2 - "Dark Entries"]

2009-06-11T04:27:26Z

Emmanuele Bassi a écrit :
> it would be easier if you referenced the bug to which you have attached
> your patch.

Oh, sorry. I forgot to remind the bug number: #527682 (it was in the
mail I was replying to).

> maintainers read bugzilla email, but it's up to you to poke them there.

I've already sent a ping there two months ago, without any answer.
That's why I've tried here.

> also you do have to realize that we're all volunteers.

I do. However, this patch is very small and pretty trivial and I don't
understand why it takes so long to be dealt with.

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Re: baobab patch [Was: Re: [ANNOUNCE] GNOME Utilities 2.25.2 - "Dark Entries"]

2009-06-11T04:01:17Z

On Thu, 2009-06-11 at 08:47 +0200, Stéphane Glondu wrote:

> I have submitted this patch

which patch>

> 9 months ago, people have shown interest,
> and so far I've only received negative answers with the reason "Not now,
> we're in freeze" (it was to-be-2.24 back then). Since then, a new
> release has been made, and now, we are targetting 2.28. Will this
> feature ever been included?

it would be easier if you referenced the bug to which you have attached
your patch.

maintainers read bugzilla email, but it's up to you to poke them there.

also you do have to realize that we're all volunteers.

ciao,
Emmanuele.

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baobab patch [Was: Re: [ANNOUNCE] GNOME Utilities 2.25.2 - "Dark Entries"]

2009-06-10T23:47:18Z

Emmanuele Bassi wrote (on Tue, 10 Feb 2009 10:20:14 +0000):
>>> here's the third unstable release of the gnome-utils package for the
>>> GNOME 2.25 release cycle.
>> Is there any plan to deal with bug #527682?
>=20
> not for this cycle: we're in UI and feature freeze, at the moment.
>=20
> it probably flew under the radar of Baobab's maintainers.

And what about now?

I have submitted this patch 9 months ago, people have shown interest,
and so far I've only received negative answers with the reason "Not now,
we're in freeze" (it was to-be-2.24 back then). Since then, a new
release has been made, and now, we are targetting 2.28. Will this
feature ever been included?

Cheers,

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gnome-applets 2.26.2

2009-05-30T15:42:29Z

This is the rather late third entry in the GNOME 2.26 series of the
GNOME Applet Collection. As well as the usual translation updates it
fixes some bugs that many people have found annoying. The delay was to
allow proper testing of these fixes.

You can get it from:

http://download.gnome.org/sources/gnome-applets/2.26/

The ChangeLog follows,

- Callum

Changes in GNOME-Applets 2.26.1
===============================

Weather Applet:
- Fix network status detection. (Matthias Clasen, 5790098)
Mixer Applet:
- Make the dock window multi-head aware. (Matt Keenani, 583452)
- Avoid a crash at exit by refing what we unref. (Callum McKenzie, 546735)
- Make the up and down keys and the scroll wheel behave sanely with
the docks slider bar. (Callum McKenzie, 581448)

Translation Updates: Bulgarian, Brazilian Portugese, Catalan, Chinese,
Czech, Danish, German, Greek, Italian, Kannada, Slovenian, Spanish
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gnome-applets 2.27.2

2009-05-26T03:50:01Z

Changes in GNOME-Applets 2.27.2
===============================

Please note that the ChangeLogs are slightly inaccurate since I am in
the process of shifting to one generated from git logs. Normal service
should resume bu 2.27.3.

Character Picker:
- Add support for South African languages (Dwayne Bailey,
407409).
Mixer Applet:
- Make the up and down keys (and mouse scroll wheel) work
correctly for the dock slider, despite what GTK thinks
(Callum McKenzie, 581448).
- Fix a reference couting bug that would cause crashes at
exit (Callum McKenzie, 564735).
- Make the dock window multihead aware (Matt Keenan, 583452).

General:
- Make translations easier by removing unnecessary markup
from GtkBuilder .ui files (Callum McKenzie, 112962).
- Remove .glade files now that glade can edit the .ui files
directly.

Translation Updates:
Bulgarian, Danish, Estonian, German, Greek, Italian, Spanish, Tamil

Documentation Translation Updates:
Chinese, Greek

As usual, you can get if from:

http://download.gnome.org/sources/gnome-applets/2.27/

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Re: new dependencies in gvfs

2009-05-04T12:43:28Z

Le lundi 04 mai 2009 à 11:58 -0400, David Zeuthen a écrit :
> This "Device-disks is API unstable" might be a hard pill for some
> distributors to swallow, e.g. they would need to rev DeviceKit-disks
> whenever a new GNOME release is out. Which includes revving things using
> DeviceKit-disks as well (it's not unlikely KDE and others will switch to
> DeviceKit-disks at some point).

There are already several fd.o packages that need to be updated this
way, and it turns out to be manageable, since everything using them is
either updated frequently or small enough to be trivially patched.

One thing that would be much appreciated, however, is proper versioning
of the interface. This is not as simple to do over D-Bus as with a
regular library, but if you could at least mark prominently in the NEWS
file which versions extend the protocol and which versions break it, it
would help a lot with managing dependencies and upgrades.

Cheers,
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Re: new dependencies in gvfs

2009-05-04T08:58:07Z

On Sun, 2009-05-03 at 07:57 +0200, Frederic Peters wrote:

> I am all for DeviceKit-disks as an external dependency, but don't we
> want gnome-disk-utility as part of the desktop set ? It features many
> things, notifications, Nautilus extension, awesome replacement for
> gfloppy, and more, things that definitely have their place in the
> desktop. Just like Emmannuel I'd love to have it in the desktop suite.
>
> And being a whole part of the GNOME desktop was what I understood from
> David announce[1] (but then I could have read too much in this):
> > This will be the default volume monitor in GNOME 2.28
>
> David, would you formally propose gnome-disk-utility for inclusion in
> the GNOME Desktop Suite ?

Sure, that sounds sensible. The long term plan of this work is to have

- two libraries, libgdu and libgdu-gtk
- a set of applications / utilities
- deep integration with GNOME (e.g. Nautilus extensions, panel
items / applets, GVfs volume monitor)

for dealing with storage devices. The idea is that the bulk of the work
is in the libraries (including GTK+ widgets and dialogs) thus allowing
people to experiment and iterate over what kind of end-user experience
we want.

I'm not yet ready to commit to any kind of stable API (yet) but that
shouldn't be a problem as we can just update GVfs et. al. along and
AFAIK there's no guarantee of any API stability in Desktop, only in
Platform.

However, one thing is that the (D-Bus) API of the daemon being used,
DeviceKit-disks will remain API unstable for a bit longer (long term
plan is to provide a stable API) - probably until the GLib/D-Bus story
is sorted (see e.g. gtk-devel-list) and we have other backends (I want a
backend for unit tests and of course ideally FreeBSD, Solaris and others
could write backends too).

This "Device-disks is API unstable" might be a hard pill for some
distributors to swallow, e.g. they would need to rev DeviceKit-disks
whenever a new GNOME release is out. Which includes revving things using
DeviceKit-disks as well (it's not unlikely KDE and others will switch to
DeviceKit-disks at some point).

Also, the requirements for running DeviceKit-disks is also going to
remain bleeding edge - to do integration on the level we want (e.g. do
it right, for starters), we really need to depend on kernel and udev
features as we add them.

These shouldn't be problems for most distros, e.g. Fedora, OpenSUSE,
Ubuntu, Mandriva etc. all tend to ship bleeding edge stuff _anyway_. It
might be a problem for other OS'es (DeviceKit-disks is Linux only at the
moment), jhbuild users and infrequently release distros (such as the
enterprise releases or Debian). The only answer I have to this is that I
will ensure that things (like GVfs) will build with --disable-gdu and
then people can fall back to e.g. the HAL backend or whatever.

With the caveat that these things will not be problem (because, no, I
will not spend time making things work on ancient kernel or udev
releases) for inclusion in the Desktop release set, I'd be more than
happy to propose gnome-disk-utility.

(Btw, it's not like DeviceKit-disks is in any way special here - these
things apply to _many_ bits of an OS too (e.g. graphics, audio) - I'm
just trying to be upfront about these things in order to manage
expectations.)

> Finally, minor technical point: it requires libsexy (for SexyUrlLabel).

I can ship a local copy if this isn't in GTK+ by the 2.28 release (I
believe the plan is to get something like this into GTK+).

David

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gnome-applets 2.27.1

2009-05-04T03:45:46Z

This is the first release of the _unstable_ 2.27 series of gnome-applets
releases. Unfortunately not a lot has happened in this code yet. A full
ChangeLog follows this message.

Get it from:

http://download.gnome.org/sources/gnome-applets/2.27/

- Callum

Changes in GNOME-Applets 2.27.1
===============================

Accessibility Applet:
- Show the correct icon (Callum McKenzie).
Drivemount Applet:
- Behave sensibly on gconf corruption or missing icons (Callum McKenzie).
Mini-Commander:
- Add https support.
Null Applet:
- Remove debugging code (Callum McKenzie).
- Mark the applet names for translation.
Stickynotes Applet:
- Add scrollbars if the note gets too large for the screen (Dennis Hilmar).
Weather Applet:
- Protect against crashes when the locations file is missing (Callum
McKenzie).
General:
- Added a DOAP file for the project.
- Trigger timeouts at second boundaries for efficiency (gQuigs).
- Uneeded duplicate images removed from the documentation translations.

Translation Updates:
as, crh, cs, es, kn, sr

Documentation Translation Updates:
el, ru, zh_CN
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Re: new dependencies in gvfs

2009-05-02T22:57:16Z

Matthias Clasen wrote:

> > David just merged the DeviceKit backend into gvfs, which means that
> > gvfs will now depend on gnome-disk-utility and DeviceKit-disks.
> >
> > David will hopefully post something about some of the cool
> > things we get with this. This mail is more about the dry bureaucratic
> > aspects of this change...
> >
> > The new dependencies are only conditional. The hal backend is still
> > there, so nobody will be rushed to switch to DeviceKit. Currently, the
> > new backend is built automatically when configure finds the necessary
> > dependencies, but there is a --en/disable-gdu option to force things.
> >
> > I'd like to add the new dependencies to our list of external deps (and
> > to the jhbuild external-deps moduleset).
> >
> > Comments ?

Emmanuele Bassi wrote:
> I, for one, would like to welcome our new disk management overlords.
>
> also, in reference to the gnome-utils plans I mailed to gnome-utils-list
> last month[1], I'd also say that gfloppy's life (or, better, the end
> thereof) is pretty much tied to DeviceKit-disks and gnome-disk-utility.
> hence, I'd love to get gnome-disk-utility as part of GNOME's desktop
> suite so that we can finally have a modern disk management.

I am all for DeviceKit-disks as an external dependency, but don't we
want gnome-disk-utility as part of the desktop set ? It features many
things, notifications, Nautilus extension, awesome replacement for
gfloppy, and more, things that definitely have their place in the
desktop. Just like Emmannuel I'd love to have it in the desktop suite.

And being a whole part of the GNOME desktop was what I understood from
David announce[1] (but then I could have read too much in this):
> This will be the default volume monitor in GNOME 2.28

David, would you formally propose gnome-disk-utility for inclusion in
the GNOME Desktop Suite ?

Finally, minor technical point: it requires libsexy (for SexyUrlLabel).

Cheers,
Frederic

[1] http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/devkit-devel/2009-May/000149.html

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Re: new dependencies in gvfs

2009-05-02T13:34:04Z

On Fri, 2009-05-01 at 19:16 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:

> David just merged the DeviceKit backend into gvfs, which means that
> gvfs will now depend on gnome-disk-utility and DeviceKit-disks.
>
> David will hopefully post something about some of the cool
> things we get with this. This mail is more about the dry bureaucratic
> aspects of this change...
>
> The new dependencies are only conditional. The hal backend is still
> there, so nobody will be rushed to switch to DeviceKit. Currently, the
> new backend is built automatically when configure finds the necessary
> dependencies, but there is a --en/disable-gdu option to force things.
>
> I'd like to add the new dependencies to our list of external deps (and
> to the jhbuild external-deps moduleset).
>
> Comments ?

I, for one, would like to welcome our new disk management overlords.

also, in reference to the gnome-utils plans I mailed to gnome-utils-list
last month[1], I'd also say that gfloppy's life (or, better, the end
thereof) is pretty much tied to DeviceKit-disks and gnome-disk-utility.
hence, I'd love to get gnome-disk-utility as part of GNOME's desktop
suite so that we can finally have a modern disk management.

ciao,
Emmanuele.

+++

[1] http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-utils-list/2009-April/msg00002.html

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gnome-utils, gfloppy and 2.28 plans

2009-04-17T11:08:27Z

hi everyone;

with the migration to Git gnome-utils lost gfloppy. the gfloppy code is
still under the gfloppy repository, like it has been for the past few
years -- and therein lies the problem: gfloppy was included using the
abomination known as svn:externals, which makes it impossible to
effectively migrate it correctly without copying the gfloppy directory
into gnome-utils.

right now, I removed all the traces of gfloppy from the gnome-utils
repository, in order for it to build properly. this, though, offers the
chance to talk a little bit about gfloppy and its future.

or lack thereof.

for the past three years (around the time I became maintainer), gfloppy
has been conditionally compiled, and the default was to leave it alone;
some distributions enabled it anyway but that's not our problem.

gfloppy is also completely unmaintained, and terribly out of scope for
the basic box. I haven't seen a floppy drive in four years, and even
then they were a relic from another age, where dinosaurs roamed huge
data centers, men were real men, women were real women and furry little
creatures from Alpha Centauri were furry little creatures from Alpha
Centauri.

some new project has been started to create a generic media formatter
utility and send gfloppy to the great floppy drive in the sky; all of
these projects are, in my opinion, completely wrong. the use bizarre
combinations of scripts and privileges escalation mechanisms to format a
disk -- instead of using appropriate tools like PolicyKit and HAL; but
most of all, they miss the only proper user interface that I would
expect from a tool that allows me to format a USB key: full integration
with Nautilus.

lately, a lot of work has been done by the DeviceKit team to provide a
sane API for accessing and formatting disks and partitions; this led to
the creation of the gnome-disks-utility application which, as far as I
know, will be proposed for inclusion for GNOME 2.28. gnome-disk-utility
will be integrated with Nautilus and will expose far more functionality
than a simple formatter tool as well.

so, long story short: we should keep gfloppy out of the gnome-utils
repository for the 2.27 cycle; IF gnome-disk-utility is approved as part
of GNOME 2.28 then we don't have to do anything and we can congratulate
ourselves with a pat on the back for having a modern and useful
platform; IF gnome-disk-utility is NOT approved then we can release
gfloppy from its repository and distributions that want to provide an
upgrade path can make gfloppy a pre-requisite for gnome-utils.

ideas? comments? thoughts?

ciao,
Emmanuele.

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Fwd: Hi

2009-04-15T10:54:35Z

Hi all.

I`ve just sent this email to Cosimo and Emmanuele but I think I can send it to a little bit wider audience.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Witek Adamus <witekadamus@...>
Date: 2009/4/15
Subject: Hi
To: cosimoc@..., emmanuele@...

I have few ideas to implement in gnome-screenshot but... I`ve been reading all of this pages at gnome.org and I`m a bit disoriented :(
You`re gnome developers and you`re the gnome-screenshot authors(http://live.gnome.org/GnomeUtils). Please write me point-by-point what I have to do to get svn accout and ability to upload my code. I`d didnt used SVN ever in my live, and I completly dont know what commits, updates, branches etc. means and how to deal with it.

As not hard to figure out - these are my first steps with developing such a big project. Basicaly I`m guy who prefers putting his idea to bugtracks or brainstorm, than implement something when he`s not payed for doing it, but I decided to implement few ideas from ubuntu brainstorm.

Just take a look at them:

http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/16850/
http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/12177/
http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/16206/
http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/13378/
http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/18488/
    I temporary use workaround from 2nd solution but it works only when compiz is disabled (and needs adidional app)
http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/6042/
    sequencive saving can be nice to (some more preferences)
http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/18247/
    It`s allready implemented but need typing "gnome-screenshot -i" in CONSOLE(imo forcing to use console is evil)

This ideas imo are also worth of interest but LATER(maybe when I`ll acomplish, if I`ll acomplish my todays plan):

+http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/12502/
+http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/15796/
+http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/9682/
    I rather think here about idea of saving thumbnail than various formats

After browsing all of this ideas I think its not big project and I can accomplish some of listed ideas.
Best way of satisfy all of people who would like to have such functionality is creating one Preferences window more - I`ve just created my mockup of- System->Preferences->Screenshoting window

... but 1st. Lets see at another mockup I also created.

http://apng.pl/gnome/mockups/4.png

If someone preses print screen key he should have ability to change preferences directly. Theres little problem because when I`ll add new button to the bottom, the whole window will be a bit biger and noisy. I think than buttons "Copy to clipboard" and "Save" should be just at the bottom of filename, and directory selection area.
Help button should stay with Preferences button on the left side, and on the right side the Cancel button - but imo it rather should be the "Close" button not "Cancel"

Ok. So lets go to preferences.

http://apng.pl/gnome/mockups/1.png

gnome-screenshot should check values in gconf seted-up by this window right before taking screenshot.
Default behaviour would be this which is now + users should have a chance to choose between this, and as you can se: autosave mode and windows like behaviour.

Actualy theres also problem with delay. You can change it only via gconf-editor or choose once when in interactive mode. Putting it here would simplify it.

"Hide mouse cursor" doesnt need explanation.

"Show notification" - here`s my littel dilema. I dont know is the notification area in gnome by default - or its just in ubuntu (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NotifyOSD)
1st of all I think it should be included in standard Gnome edition if its not, but also... if its not included yet, I think its a bad idea to put this check box into preferences window. - What do you think??

OK. Lets go to the second tab.
http://apng.pl/gnome/mockups/2.png

When someone will choose autosave mode he will be able to specify his dreamed directory to save files or he can be promted sometimes - but not too often.
As you could read in brainstorm ideas of diffrent people - they had many ideas of it how filename should look like. These 3 modes should satisfy everyone + you can put prefix and postfix - I just dont know is it a good in english to call "string putten behind another string" a postfix.

here comes 3rd tab:
http://apng.pl/gnome/mockups/3.png
Its just info. I know that theres documentation, and tiny tutorial on how to use Desktop but... I dont know is anyone reading it. I didnt read it.
It`s boring and things like shourtcuts even more. I know person who didnt even know that there is prtSc key on keyboard and downloaded separate aplication for windows when wated to take some screenshots.
So if it will be in preferences window someone will read it, eg. when he`l just install ubuntu and begin to play with preferences.

And theres also one idea more - taking shot of the selected area of a screen.

So. That was my listing of plans I want to achieve in a couple of following days/weeks/months. Im downloading a whole gnome from svn right now. Maybe I`ll write few lines tomorrow - but... as I said. I dont know how to put all of this to the repository. Please send me what do you think about project, list of links directed to users of SVN(I found some tutorials but they are rather for admins who wana deploy it on their own server), and maybe some instructions how to join to gnome developers.

Cheers mate.

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gnome-applets 2.26.1

2009-04-12T18:39:58Z

This is the first maintenance release of the 2.26 stable series. A few
crashers have been fixed and the translations continue to be updated.
The source can be found at:

http://download.gnome.org/sources/gnome-applets/2.26/

The full changelog follows,

- Callum

Changes in GNOME-Applets 2.26.1
===============================

Drivemount Applet:
- Don't crash if the icons can't be found or gconf is down (340410,
Callum McKenzie).
Keyboard Accessibility Indicator:
- Load icons correctly (576707, Callum McKenzie).
Weather Applet:
- Fix a crash if the locations could not be read (554856, Callum
McKenzie).

Translation Updates:
ar, as, crh, it, kn, sr

Documentation Translation Updates:
cs, el, ru
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[ANNOUNCE] GNOME Utilities 2.26.0 - "So They Say"

2009-03-16T16:05:27Z

good news, everyone;

here's the first stable release of the gnome-utils package for the
GNOME 2.26 release cycle.

as usual, you can download it from:

http://download.gnome.org/sources/gnome-utils/2.26/

the GNOME Utilities package contains several utilities for the GNOME
desktop environment:

Baobab, the disk usage analyser
GNOME Dictionary, a DICT protocol client
gFloppy, a floppy formatter (optional)
GNOME Screenshot, a small utility to take screenshots of your desktop
GNOME Search Tool, a file search utility
GNOME System Log Viewer, a viewer for the system log messages

as a spectial note: the 2.25 release cycle has seen an incredible amount
of work on the System Log Viewer, which has been completely rewritten by
Cosimo Cecchi -- who also took over the maintainership of the Screenshot
tool. Make sure you buy him a beer at GUADEC: he really deserves it!

here are the news for this release:

Baobab

* Fix bug 574105 - Do no show GVfs FUSE file systems in the
preferences dialog

Dictionary

* Nothing

Floppy

* Nothing

Screenshot

* Fix bug 573939 - Disable the delay option when taking a
screenshot of a user selected area

Search Tool

* Nothing

System Log Viewer

* Nothing

Translations Updated by:

Runa Bhattacharjee (bn_IN), Joan Duran (ca), Adrian Guniš (cs),
Ask Hjorth Larsen (da), Hendrik Richter (de), Fotis Tsamis (el),
Ivar Smolin (et), Iñaki Larrañaga Murgoitio (eu), Meelad Zakaria (fa),
Suso Baleato (gl), Ankit Patel (gu), Rajesh Ranjan (hi),
Andrea Zagli (it), Shankar Prasad (kn), Changwoo Ryu (ko),
Žygimantas Beručka (lt), Praveen Arimbrathodiyil (ml),
Sandeep Shedmake (mr), Kjartan Maraas (nb), Manoj Kumar Giri (or),
Tomasz Dominikowski (pl), Djavan Fagundes (pt_BR), Adi Roiban (ro),
Yuriy Penkin (ru), I. Felix (ta), Krishna Babu K (te),
Chao-Hsiung Liao (zh_HK), Chao-Hsiung Liao (zh_TW)

as always, a great "thank you" to everyone that submitted bugs, patches,
documentation and translations for the GNOME Utilities: you all rock!

have fun!

ciao,
Emmanuele.

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gnome-applets 2.26.0

2009-03-16T02:27:55Z

Finally, the big 2.26.0 release. This is a stable release and should be
suitable for your day-to-day use.

There is one major change that everyone should be aware of. The volume
control applet has been replaced by a version supplied by the
gnome-media package. The transition should be automatic, but the
location of the applet will move to the notification area.

If you want the old volume control back, then the --enable-mixer-applet
option to configure is what you want. Be warned that it doesn't look
quite like it used to.

You can get it from:

http://download.gnome.org/sources/gnome-applets/2.26/

The detailed changelog fo this release follows.

- Callum

Changes in GNOME-Applets 2.26.0
===============================

CPU Frequency Selector:
- Fix crasher for non-authorized users.
Invest Applet:
- Correctly install defs.py without distributing it.
Mixer Applet:
- Hide the applet when the escape key is pressed.
- Sync the dock icon and the panel mute check-box.
Null Applet:
- Correctly replace the mixer applet.

Translation Updates:
af, bn_IN, ca, cs, de, el, gl, gu, he, kn, lt, ml, mr, pl, ru, sv, ta, te

Documentation Translation Updates:
cs, en_GB, hu, it
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