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by Ronald RiemVis :: Rate this Message:

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Hello All,

As new user from the Horde application i did found it very annoing
that not on any place good documentattion can be found for all
parameters inside the hord configuration setup.
Basic information about the registry.php and to set the path for the
horde application is missing.
The struggle to find out for instance if the php scripts within horde
are creating the data base + horde_datatree tables is untill now not
clear.
No documentation can be found on this subject.

Are there on this moment volunteers who are maybe busy to write this
part of documentation?

Greetings,

Ronald
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Re: Good documentation

by Jan Schneider :: Rate this Message:

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Zitat von Ronald RiemVis <ronald.riemvis@...>:

> As new user from the Horde application i did found it very annoing
> that not on any place good documentattion can be found for all
> parameters inside the hord configuration setup.
> Basic information about the registry.php and to set the path for the
> horde application is missing.
> The struggle to find out for instance if the php scripts within horde
> are creating the data base + horde_datatree tables is untill now not
> clear.
> No documentation can be found on this subject.

You can read, can't you? Or are you looking for introduction movies and
audio files? Sorry, we don't have them. Everything else that you are
complaining about is there.

Jan.

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Re: Good documentation

by Ronald RiemVis :: Rate this Message:

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Mr Jan Schneider,

You can become very angry but you also can face it that the
documentation is far from being complete.
Why do i get error messages fromout horde after installing MySQL with
errors like no database found.
After creating the database by hand and making actif the datatree in
de horde setupn i get that the datatable is not there. Why i can not
find in ANY documentation (because there is none for this) that tells
me WAT horde is doing during the installation proces and maybe give
the good parameters to create the datatable by hand.
Is the idea that horde will make the database and later the table for
the datatree environment or not.
>From a stupid man like me you can learn a lot to make documentation
good so other stupid people can use it.

Thank you for reading this stupid comment.

Ronald
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Re: Good documentation

by Benoit St-Andre :: Rate this Message:

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Le Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 09:16:37PM +0100, Ronald RiemVis a écrit:

> Mr Jan Schneider,
>
> You can become very angry but you also can face it that the
> documentation is far from being complete.
> Why do i get error messages fromout horde after installing MySQL with
> errors like no database found.
> After creating the database by hand and making actif the datatree in
> de horde setupn i get that the datatable is not there. Why i can not
> find in ANY documentation (because there is none for this) that tells
> me WAT horde is doing during the installation proces and maybe give
> the good parameters to create the datatable by hand.
> Is the idea that horde will make the database and later the table for
> the datatree environment or not.
> >From a stupid man like me you can learn a lot to make documentation
> good so other stupid people can use it.
>
> Thank you for reading this stupid comment.
>
> Ronald
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Like Jan said, just read the doc.

point 6 in the "Quick install" section, in horde's docs/INSTALL

"6. Create database tables::

     cd ../scripts/sql
     vi create.mysql.sql
     mysql -u root -p < create.mysql.sql
"

And you'll also see that the datatree tables are being created by that
script.
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Re: Good documentation

by Eric Jon Rostetter :: Rate this Message:

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Quoting Ronald RiemVis <ronald.riemvis@...>:

> Why do i get error messages fromout horde after installing MySQL with
> errors like no database found.

We have no idea.  We'd have to know a lot of details about your OS,
Database setup, networking setup, steps you took during installation,
etc. in order to know what the problem was, or document how you would
resolve it.

> After creating the database by hand and making actif the datatree in
> de horde setupn i get that the datatable is not there. Why i can not
> find in ANY documentation (because there is none for this) that tells
> me WAT horde is doing during the installation proces and maybe give
> the good parameters to create the datatable by hand.

As an open source project, Horde depends on volunteers to create both
the code and the documentation.  Unfortunately, there are almost no
volunteers to create documentation, and hence there is very little
documentation.

> Is the idea that horde will make the database and later the table for
> the datatree environment or not.

No.  Horde includes some scripts to create the database, but you must
run them by hand.  Horde does not do this for you.

> >From a stupid man like me you can learn a lot to make documentation
> good so other stupid people can use it.
>
> Thank you for reading this stupid comment.
>
> Ronald

Please feel free to write some documentation on this so that others
will benefit from it.  If you need help, ask questions.  Use the
answers you get to create the docs that are missing.

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Re: Good documentation

by Ronald RiemVis :: Rate this Message:

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Thank you for this answer.

Specialy about the volunteers.
I will create a guideline with all things i did to install horde under
IIS windows server 2003.
Untill now i can not create any user.
I could create a group and and rights.
What sould i do to make it possible that the line saying "that my
authentification backend is not allowing to add users or this option
is maybe shutdown" will disapear.
I see with the SQL shell:
LIST TABLES
horde_datatree
horde_datatree_attributes
horde_datatree_seq
horde_prefs
horde_tokens
horde_users
horde_vfs

Greetings,

Ronald


2005/11/30, Eric Rostetter <eric.rostetter@...>:

> Quoting Ronald RiemVis <ronald.riemvis@...>:
>
> > Why do i get error messages fromout horde after installing MySQL with
> > errors like no database found.
>
> We have no idea.  We'd have to know a lot of details about your OS,
> Database setup, networking setup, steps you took during installation,
> etc. in order to know what the problem was, or document how you would
> resolve it.
>
> > After creating the database by hand and making actif the datatree in
> > de horde setupn i get that the datatable is not there. Why i can not
> > find in ANY documentation (because there is none for this) that tells
> > me WAT horde is doing during the installation proces and maybe give
> > the good parameters to create the datatable by hand.
>
> As an open source project, Horde depends on volunteers to create both
> the code and the documentation.  Unfortunately, there are almost no
> volunteers to create documentation, and hence there is very little
> documentation.
>
> > Is the idea that horde will make the database and later the table for
> > the datatree environment or not.
>
> No.  Horde includes some scripts to create the database, but you must
> run them by hand.  Horde does not do this for you.
>
> > >From a stupid man like me you can learn a lot to make documentation
> > good so other stupid people can use it.
> >
> > Thank you for reading this stupid comment.
> >
> > Ronald
>
> Please feel free to write some documentation on this so that others
> will benefit from it.  If you need help, ask questions.  Use the
> answers you get to create the docs that are missing.
>
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> The Department of Physics
> The University of Texas at Austin
>
> Why get even? Get odd!
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