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RE: Grails 1.0.1 is out
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Re: Grails 1.0.1 is out
On Monday 18 February 2008 07:42, Graeme Rocher wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> We've release the first point release for Grails 1.0. Grails 1.0.1
> can be downloaded here: http://grails.org/DownloadThanks again for all the work you folks put in!
Is it correct that the documentation has not changed? The Zipped
document file link has the same name as it did when the 1.0 release was
announced (< http://dist.codehaus.org/grails/grails-docs-1.0.zip>).
> ...
>
> Cheers
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Re: Grails 1.0.1 is out
On Feb 18, 2008 4:00 PM, Randall R Schulz < rschulz@...> wrote:
> On Monday 18 February 2008 07:42, Graeme Rocher wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > We've release the first point release for Grails 1.0. Grails 1.0.1
> > can be downloaded here: http://grails.org/Download>
> Thanks again for all the work you folks put in!
>
> Is it correct that the documentation has not changed? The Zipped
> document file link has the same name as it did when the 1.0 release was
> announced (< http://dist.codehaus.org/grails/grails-docs-1.0.zip>).
The documentation is same yes and has not changed
Cheers
>
>
> > ...
> >
> > Cheers
>
>
> Randall Schulz
>
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Re: Grails 1.0.1 is out
Congrats for 1.0.1.
Its installer for Windows is also ready.
Cheers,
Chanwit
On 18/02/2008, Graeme Rocher < graeme@...> wrote:
> On Feb 18, 2008 4:00 PM, Randall R Schulz < rschulz@...> wrote:
> > On Monday 18 February 2008 07:42, Graeme Rocher wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > We've release the first point release for Grails 1.0. Grails 1.0.1
> > > can be downloaded here: http://grails.org/Download> >
> > Thanks again for all the work you folks put in!
> >
> > Is it correct that the documentation has not changed? The Zipped
> > document file link has the same name as it did when the 1.0 release was
> > announced (< http://dist.codehaus.org/grails/grails-docs-1.0.zip>).
>
> The documentation is same yes and has not changed
>
> Cheers
>
> >
> >
> > > ...
> > >
> > > Cheers
> >
> >
> > Randall Schulz
> >
> >
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Re: Grails 1.0.1 is out
The Ubuntu deb package is also available at:
http://code.google.com/p/ant-deb-task/downloads/listMarius
On Feb 18, 2008 8:51 AM, Chanwit Kaewkasi < chanwit@...> wrote:
> Congrats for 1.0.1.
> Its installer for Windows is also ready.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Chanwit
>
>
> On 18/02/2008, Graeme Rocher < graeme@...> wrote:
> > On Feb 18, 2008 4:00 PM, Randall R Schulz < rschulz@...> wrote:
> > > On Monday 18 February 2008 07:42, Graeme Rocher wrote:
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > We've release the first point release for Grails 1.0. Grails 1.0.1
> > > > can be downloaded here: http://grails.org/Download> > >
> > > Thanks again for all the work you folks put in!
> > >
> > > Is it correct that the documentation has not changed? The Zipped
> > > document file link has the same name as it did when the 1.0 release was
> > > announced (< http://dist.codehaus.org/grails/grails-docs-1.0.zip>).
> >
> > The documentation is same yes and has not changed
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > > ...
> > > >
> > > > Cheers
> > >
> > >
> > > Randall Schulz
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> >
> >
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Re: Grails 1.0.1 is out
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Re: Grails 1.0.1 is out
I've updated the i18n-templates plugin as well, as some templates were changed.
See http://www.grails.org/I18n+Templates+Plugin for more information.
chanwit wrote:
Congrats for 1.0.1.
Its installer for Windows is also ready.
Cheers,
Chanwit
On 18/02/2008, Graeme Rocher <graeme@g2one.com> wrote:
> On Feb 18, 2008 4:00 PM, Randall R Schulz <rschulz@sonic.net> wrote:
> > On Monday 18 February 2008 07:42, Graeme Rocher wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > We've release the first point release for Grails 1.0. Grails 1.0.1
> > > can be downloaded here: http://grails.org/Download> >
> > Thanks again for all the work you folks put in!
> >
> > Is it correct that the documentation has not changed? The Zipped
> > document file link has the same name as it did when the 1.0 release was
> > announced (< http://dist.codehaus.org/grails/grails-docs-1.0.zip>).
>
> The documentation is same yes and has not changed
>
> Cheers
>
> >
> >
> > > ...
> > >
> > > Cheers
> >
> >
> > Randall Schulz
> >
> >
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> >
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Re: Grails 1.0.1 is out
I just see the front web page today( http://grails.org/). I think if you say 45 bug fixes in version 1.0.1, some people might sees this version is still not production ready and will wait until its stable. I like grails and hope that many people will try this program also.
Just a suggestion, might be its better if we say something along like " Grails 1.0.1 are updated with features from our vibrant forums... ? ".
Please pardon my english, but I think you get my meaning.
Best Regards,
Joni S
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Re: Grails 1.0.1 is out
FWIW, I'm currently evaluating Grails for development of a fairly complex web site that will potentially have a large number of users. The "45 bug fixes" thing didn't turn me off at all. I prefer candor over spin, particularly for a developer-oriented site like grails.org.
I'm still evaluating, so I can't comment on whether Grails appears mature enough at this point to use it for a large commercial application. If it's appropriate for this forum, I would be interested in hearing any thoughts people may have on the subject. I know there are a lot of developers here who want to talk nuts and bolts. So if you have comments that you think may NOT be of interest to the readers of this forum, please feel free to send them directly to: clint@....
Clint Foster On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 1:33 AM, Jon.S < bulkmailme@...> wrote:
I just see the front web page today(http://grails.org/). I think if you say
45 bug fixes in version 1.0.1, some people might sees this version is still
not production ready and will wait until its stable. I like grails and hope
that many people will try this program also.
Just a suggestion, might be its better if we say something along like "
Grails 1.0.1 are updated with features from our vibrant forums... ? ".
Please pardon my english, but I think you get my meaning.
Best Regards,
Joni S
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Re: Grails 1.0.1 is out
This is a little silly isn't it? Spring 2.5.1 contained 125 "bug
fixes" and I don't see anyone calling Spring 2.5 unstable
Cheers
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 8:33 AM, Jon.S < bulkmailme@...> wrote:
>
> I just see the front web page today( http://grails.org/). I think if you say
> 45 bug fixes in version 1.0.1, some people might sees this version is still
> not production ready and will wait until its stable. I like grails and hope
> that many people will try this program also.
>
> Just a suggestion, might be its better if we say something along like "
> Grails 1.0.1 are updated with features from our vibrant forums... ? ".
>
> Please pardon my english, but I think you get my meaning.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Joni S
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Re: Grails 1.0.1 is out
On 28 Feb 2008, at 08:33, Jon.S wrote:
>
> I just see the front web page today( http://grails.org/). I think if
> you say
> 45 bug fixes in version 1.0.1, some people might sees this version
> is still
> not production ready and will wait until its stable. I like grails
> and hope
> that many people will try this program also.
>
> Just a suggestion, might be its better if we say something along
> like "
> Grails 1.0.1 are updated with features from our vibrant forums... ? ".
This is completely the wrong attitude.
The worst software projects in the world hide their bugs. They ALL
have them, if they don't admit to them you should have less confidence
in them.
Transparency builds confidence. If it doesn't, the person who is
worried needs to get their head checked :)
It's just like the security through obscurity argument. It just
doesn't cut it in the real world!
Marc
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Re: Grails 1.0.1 is out
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What do you call "a large commercial"? I have a I grails application running in production since grails 0.6. It has 200.000 users, with 1 million page views per month. Is this big enough? Or to you, "big" is something more like amazon, or eBay?
For me: yes, grails is stable enough for production. It is based on Spring, Hibernate, Sitemesh, and so on.... they are all stable enough IMHO. Cheers Felipe 2008/2/28, Clint Foster <clint.foster@...>:
FWIW, I'm currently evaluating Grails for development of a fairly complex web site that will potentially have a large number of users. The "45 bug fixes" thing didn't turn me off at all. I prefer candor over spin, particularly for a developer-oriented site like grails.org.
I'm still evaluating, so I can't comment on whether Grails appears mature enough at this point to use it for a large commercial application. If it's appropriate for this forum, I would be interested in hearing any thoughts people may have on the subject. I know there are a lot of developers here who want to talk nuts and bolts. So if you have comments that you think may NOT be of interest to the readers of this forum, please feel free to send them directly to: clint@....
Clint Foster
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 1:33 AM, Jon.S < bulkmailme@...> wrote:
I just see the front web page today(http://grails.org/). I think if you say
45 bug fixes in version 1.0.1, some people might sees this version is still
not production ready and will wait until its stable. I like grails and hope
that many people will try this program also.
Just a suggestion, might be its better if we say something along like "
Grails 1.0.1 are updated with features from our vibrant forums... ? ".
Please pardon my english, but I think you get my meaning.
Best Regards,
Joni S
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Re: Grails 1.0.1 is out
Thanks for the response. That's exactly the kind of input I was looking
for. Nothing would make us happier than for our site to become as
popular as amazon or eBay. But for now we would happily settle for the
kind of traffic you are seeing on your site.
I guess the ability to handle load is really more dependent on the
hosting hardware, the database, the web server, etc. The efficiency of
GORM could be one area in question when it comes to scaling. But
assuming it is acceptable, I suppose the question is whether it
will be easy to implement high-customized behavior when we reach a point where we need to do that. I'm assuming the answer is yes. Convention over Configuration shouldn't mean you can't specify details when you really need to, after all.
PS: Is your site publicly viewable, and if so would it be appropriate for you to share the URL with us? I'm sure others would like to see an example of a mature site implemented in Grails. Or perhaps you could email it to me directly if you don't want that much traffic...
Clint On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 9:05 PM, Felipe Nascimento < felipenasc@...> wrote:
What do you call "a large commercial"?
I have a I grails application running in production since grails 0.6. It has 200.000 users, with 1 million page views per month.
Is this big enough? Or to you, "big" is something more like amazon, or eBay?
For me: yes, grails is stable enough for production. It is based on Spring, Hibernate, Sitemesh, and so on.... they are all stable enough IMHO.
Cheers
Felipe
2008/2/28, Clint Foster <clint.foster@...>:
FWIW, I'm currently evaluating Grails for development of a fairly complex web site that will potentially have a large number of users. The "45 bug fixes" thing didn't turn me off at all. I prefer candor over spin, particularly for a developer-oriented site like grails.org.
I'm still evaluating, so I can't comment on whether Grails appears mature enough at this point to use it for a large commercial application. If it's appropriate for this forum, I would be interested in hearing any thoughts people may have on the subject. I know there are a lot of developers here who want to talk nuts and bolts. So if you have comments that you think may NOT be of interest to the readers of this forum, please feel free to send them directly to: clint@....
Clint Foster
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 1:33 AM, Jon.S < bulkmailme@...> wrote:
I just see the front web page today(http://grails.org/). I think if you say
45 bug fixes in version 1.0.1, some people might sees this version is still
not production ready and will wait until its stable. I like grails and hope
that many people will try this program also.
Just a suggestion, might be its better if we say something along like "
Grails 1.0.1 are updated with features from our vibrant forums... ? ".
Please pardon my english, but I think you get my meaning.
Best Regards,
Joni S
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RE: Grails 1.0.1 is out
I would love to be able to see more examples of production
grails applications in the wild, if you are willing to, and able to, give out
the url to your production site...
Thanks
Thanks for the response. That's exactly the kind of input I was
looking for. Nothing would make us happier than for our site to become as
popular as amazon or eBay. But for now we would happily settle for the kind of
traffic you are seeing on your site. I guess the ability to handle load
is really more dependent on the hosting hardware, the database, the web server,
etc. The efficiency of GORM could be one area in question when it comes to
scaling. But assuming it is acceptable, I suppose the question is whether it
will be easy to implement high-customized behavior when we reach a point where
we need to do that. I'm assuming the answer is yes. Convention over
Configuration shouldn't mean you can't specify details when you really need to,
after all. PS: Is your site publicly viewable, and if so would it be
appropriate for you to share the URL with us? I'm sure others would like to see
an example of a mature site implemented in Grails. Or perhaps you could email it
to me directly if you don't want that much traffic... Clint
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 9:05 PM, Felipe Nascimento < felipenasc@...> wrote:
What
do you call "a large commercial"?
I have a I grails application running in
production since grails 0.6. It has 200.000 users, with 1 million page views
per month.
Is this big enough? Or to you, "big" is something more like
amazon, or eBay?
For me: yes, grails is stable enough for production.
It is based on Spring, Hibernate, Sitemesh, and so on.... they are all stable
enough IMHO.
Cheers
Felipe
2008/2/28, Clint Foster <clint.foster@...>:
FWIW,
I'm currently evaluating Grails for development of a fairly complex web site
that will potentially have a large number of users. The "45 bug fixes" thing
didn't turn me off at all. I prefer candor over spin, particularly for a
developer-oriented site like grails.org.
I'm still evaluating, so I can't
comment on whether Grails appears mature enough at this point to use it for
a large commercial application. If it's appropriate for this forum, I would
be interested in hearing any thoughts people may have on the subject. I know
there are a lot of developers here who want to talk nuts and bolts. So if
you have comments that you think may NOT be of interest to the readers of
this forum, please feel free to send them directly to: clint@....
Clint Foster
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 1:33 AM, Jon.S < bulkmailme@...> wrote:
I
just see the front web page today(http://grails.org/). I think if you say
45 bug
fixes in version 1.0.1, some people might sees this version is
still
not production ready and will wait until its stable. I like
grails and hope
that many people will try this program
also.
Just a suggestion, might be its better if we say something
along like "
Grails 1.0.1 are updated with features from our vibrant
forums... ? ".
Please pardon my english, but I think you get my
meaning.
Best Regards,
Joni S
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Re: Grails 1.0.1 is out
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Yesterday I have upgraded the app from grails 0.6 to 1.0.1. So it is now under grails 1.0.1, finally. Next step is performance tunning....we will use hibernate cache properly, and Cacheable plugin also. This site is handled right now by one only server (app server and db server together). It is a US$250 / month server. So it is cheap in my opinion for an application to hanlde 1 million page views with only one server.
Grails is built on top of Hibernate. So if you need something from GORM taht it does not provide, just do it with hibernate, or JDBC directly if you'd like. It is Java platform. So it is as scalable as any Java app (I guess). You could use TerraCotta for example.
I think you can use Grails as it is in 90% of the cases. The 10% use what you want from the Java platform, java open source projects, or whatever. That is the beuty of Grails: simplicity and power together. The site is http://www.noiteuniversitaria.com.br/
Cheers Felipe 2008/2/29, Clint Foster <clint.foster@...>:
Thanks for the response. That's exactly the kind of input I was looking
for. Nothing would make us happier than for our site to become as
popular as amazon or eBay. But for now we would happily settle for the
kind of traffic you are seeing on your site.
I guess the ability to handle load is really more dependent on the
hosting hardware, the database, the web server, etc. The efficiency of
GORM could be one area in question when it comes to scaling. But
assuming it is acceptable, I suppose the question is whether it
will be easy to implement high-customized behavior when we reach a point where we need to do that. I'm assuming the answer is yes. Convention over Configuration shouldn't mean you can't specify details when you really need to, after all.
PS: Is your site publicly viewable, and if so would it be appropriate for you to share the URL with us? I'm sure others would like to see an example of a mature site implemented in Grails. Or perhaps you could email it to me directly if you don't want that much traffic...
Clint
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 9:05 PM, Felipe Nascimento < felipenasc@...> wrote:
What do you call "a large commercial"?
I have a I grails application running in production since grails 0.6. It has 200.000 users, with 1 million page views per month.
Is this big enough? Or to you, "big" is something more like amazon, or eBay?
For me: yes, grails is stable enough for production. It is based on Spring, Hibernate, Sitemesh, and so on.... they are all stable enough IMHO.
Cheers
Felipe
2008/2/28, Clint Foster <clint.foster@...>:
FWIW, I'm currently evaluating Grails for development of a fairly complex web site that will potentially have a large number of users. The "45 bug fixes" thing didn't turn me off at all. I prefer candor over spin, particularly for a developer-oriented site like grails.org.
I'm still evaluating, so I can't comment on whether Grails appears mature enough at this point to use it for a large commercial application. If it's appropriate for this forum, I would be interested in hearing any thoughts people may have on the subject. I know there are a lot of developers here who want to talk nuts and bolts. So if you have comments that you think may NOT be of interest to the readers of this forum, please feel free to send them directly to: clint@....
Clint Foster
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 1:33 AM, Jon.S < bulkmailme@...> wrote:
I just see the front web page today(http://grails.org/). I think if you say
45 bug fixes in version 1.0.1, some people might sees this version is still
not production ready and will wait until its stable. I like grails and hope
that many people will try this program also.
Just a suggestion, might be its better if we say something along like "
Grails 1.0.1 are updated with features from our vibrant forums... ? ".
Please pardon my english, but I think you get my meaning.
Best Regards,
Joni S
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Re: Grails 1.0.1 is out
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It is a brazillian entertainement web site. So it is in portuguese...sorry for that :-) Here it is: http://www.noiteuniversitaria.com.br/Cheers Felipe
2008/2/29, Mandeville, Kevin (BuyerZone) <kmandeville@...>:
I would love to be able to see more examples of production
grails applications in the wild, if you are willing to, and able to, give out
the url to your production site...
Thanks
From: Clint Foster
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Subject: Re: [grails-user]
Grails 1.0.1 is out
Thanks for the response. That's exactly the kind of input I was
looking for. Nothing would make us happier than for our site to become as
popular as amazon or eBay. But for now we would happily settle for the kind of
traffic you are seeing on your site.
I guess the ability to handle load
is really more dependent on the hosting hardware, the database, the web server,
etc. The efficiency of GORM could be one area in question when it comes to
scaling. But assuming it is acceptable, I suppose the question is whether it
will be easy to implement high-customized behavior when we reach a point where
we need to do that. I'm assuming the answer is yes. Convention over
Configuration shouldn't mean you can't specify details when you really need to,
after all.
PS: Is your site publicly viewable, and if so would it be
appropriate for you to share the URL with us? I'm sure others would like to see
an example of a mature site implemented in Grails. Or perhaps you could email it
to me directly if you don't want that much traffic...
Clint
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 9:05 PM, Felipe Nascimento < felipenasc@...> wrote:
What
do you call "a large commercial"?
I have a I grails application running in
production since grails 0.6. It has 200.000 users, with 1 million page views
per month.
Is this big enough? Or to you, "big" is something more like
amazon, or eBay?
For me: yes, grails is stable enough for production.
It is based on Spring, Hibernate, Sitemesh, and so on.... they are all stable
enough IMHO.
Cheers
Felipe
2008/2/28, Clint Foster <clint.foster@...>:
FWIW,
I'm currently evaluating Grails for development of a fairly complex web site
that will potentially have a large number of users. The "45 bug fixes" thing
didn't turn me off at all. I prefer candor over spin, particularly for a
developer-oriented site like grails.org.
I'm still evaluating, so I can't
comment on whether Grails appears mature enough at this point to use it for
a large commercial application. If it's appropriate for this forum, I would
be interested in hearing any thoughts people may have on the subject. I know
there are a lot of developers here who want to talk nuts and bolts. So if
you have comments that you think may NOT be of interest to the readers of
this forum, please feel free to send them directly to: clint@....
Clint Foster
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 1:33 AM, Jon.S < bulkmailme@...> wrote:
I
just see the front web page today(http://grails.org/). I think if you say
45 bug
fixes in version 1.0.1, some people might sees this version is
still
not production ready and will wait until its stable. I like
grails and hope
that many people will try this program
also.
Just a suggestion, might be its better if we say something
along like "
Grails 1.0.1 are updated with features from our vibrant
forums... ? ".
Please pardon my english, but I think you get my
meaning.
Best Regards,
Joni S
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Re: Grails 1.0.1 is out
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There is not one day that I don't thank myself to "going for it" when grails was 0.3.1 and I started this website development. It was really a bet. And I won it! (thanks for that Graeme et al :-) Cheers
Felipe 2008/2/29, Felipe Nascimento <felipenasc@...>:
It is a brazillian entertainement web site. So it is in portuguese...sorry for that :-)
Here it is:
http://www.noiteuniversitaria.com.br/
Cheers
Felipe
2008/2/29, Mandeville, Kevin (BuyerZone) <kmandeville@...>:
I would love to be able to see more examples of production
grails applications in the wild, if you are willing to, and able to, give out
the url to your production site...
Thanks
From: Clint Foster
[mailto:clint.foster@...]
Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 11:13
AM
To: user@...
Subject: Re: [grails-user]
Grails 1.0.1 is out
Thanks for the response. That's exactly the kind of input I was
looking for. Nothing would make us happier than for our site to become as
popular as amazon or eBay. But for now we would happily settle for the kind of
traffic you are seeing on your site.
I guess the ability to handle load
is really more dependent on the hosting hardware, the database, the web server,
etc. The efficiency of GORM could be one area in question when it comes to
scaling. But assuming it is acceptable, I suppose the question is whether it
will be easy to implement high-customized behavior when we reach a point where
we need to do that. I'm assuming the answer is yes. Convention over
Configuration shouldn't mean you can't specify details when you really need to,
after all.
PS: Is your site publicly viewable, and if so would it be
appropriate for you to share the URL with us? I'm sure others would like to see
an example of a mature site implemented in Grails. Or perhaps you could email it
to me directly if you don't want that much traffic...
Clint
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 9:05 PM, Felipe Nascimento < felipenasc@...> wrote:
What
do you call "a large commercial"?
I have a I grails application running in
production since grails 0.6. It has 200.000 users, with 1 million page views
per month.
Is this big enough? Or to you, "big" is something more like
amazon, or eBay?
For me: yes, grails is stable enough for production.
It is based on Spring, Hibernate, Sitemesh, and so on.... they are all stable
enough IMHO.
Cheers
Felipe
2008/2/28, Clint Foster <clint.foster@...>:
FWIW,
I'm currently evaluating Grails for development of a fairly complex web site
that will potentially have a large number of users. The "45 bug fixes" thing
didn't turn me off at all. I prefer candor over spin, particularly for a
developer-oriented site like grails.org.
I'm still evaluating, so I can't
comment on whether Grails appears mature enough at this point to use it for
a large commercial application. If it's appropriate for this forum, I would
be interested in hearing any thoughts people may have on the subject. I know
there are a lot of developers here who want to talk nuts and bolts. So if
you have comments that you think may NOT be of interest to the readers of
this forum, please feel free to send them directly to: clint@....
Clint Foster
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 1:33 AM, Jon.S < bulkmailme@...> wrote:
I
just see the front web page today(http://grails.org/). I think if you say
45 bug
fixes in version 1.0.1, some people might sees this version is
still
not production ready and will wait until its stable. I like
grails and hope
that many people will try this program
also.
Just a suggestion, might be its better if we say something
along like "
Grails 1.0.1 are updated with features from our vibrant
forums... ? ".
Please pardon my english, but I think you get my
meaning.
Best Regards,
Joni S
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Re: Grails 1.0.1 is out
Cool, shouldn't it be listed there?
http://grails.org/Success+StoriesOn Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 7:40 PM, Felipe Nascimento < felipenasc@...> wrote:
> It is a brazillian entertainement web site. So it is in portuguese...sorry
> for that :-)
> Here it is:
>
> http://www.noiteuniversitaria.com.br/>
> Cheers
> Felipe
>
>
>
> 2008/2/29, Mandeville, Kevin (BuyerZone) < kmandeville@...>:
>
> >
> >
> > I would love to be able to see more examples of production grails
> applications in the wild, if you are willing to, and able to, give out the
> url to your production site...
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > ________________________________
> From: Clint Foster [mailto: clint.foster@...]
> > Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 11:13 AM
> > To: user@...
> > Subject: Re: [grails-user] Grails 1.0.1 is out
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks for the response. That's exactly the kind of input I was looking
> for. Nothing would make us happier than for our site to become as popular as
> amazon or eBay. But for now we would happily settle for the kind of traffic
> you are seeing on your site.
> >
> > I guess the ability to handle load is really more dependent on the hosting
> hardware, the database, the web server, etc. The efficiency of GORM could be
> one area in question when it comes to scaling. But assuming it is
> acceptable, I suppose the question is whether it will be easy to implement
> high-customized behavior when we reach a point where we need to do that. I'm
> assuming the answer is yes. Convention over Configuration shouldn't mean you
> can't specify details when you really need to, after all.
> >
> > PS: Is your site publicly viewable, and if so would it be appropriate for
> you to share the URL with us? I'm sure others would like to see an example
> of a mature site implemented in Grails. Or perhaps you could email it to me
> directly if you don't want that much traffic...
> >
> > Clint
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 9:05 PM, Felipe Nascimento < felipenasc@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > > What do you call "a large commercial"?
> > > I have a I grails application running in production since grails 0.6. It
> has 200.000 users, with 1 million page views per month.
> > > Is this big enough? Or to you, "big" is something more like amazon, or
> eBay?
> > >
> > > For me: yes, grails is stable enough for production. It is based on
> Spring, Hibernate, Sitemesh, and so on.... they are all stable enough IMHO.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > > Felipe
> > >
> > >
> > > 2008/2/28, Clint Foster < clint.foster@...>:
> > > > FWIW, I'm currently evaluating Grails for development of a fairly
> complex web site that will potentially have a large number of users. The "45
> bug fixes" thing didn't turn me off at all. I prefer candor over spin,
> particularly for a developer-oriented site like grails.org.
> > > >
> > > > I'm still evaluating, so I can't comment on whether Grails appears
> mature enough at this point to use it for a large commercial application. If
> it's appropriate for this forum, I would be interested in hearing any
> thoughts people may have on the subject. I know there are a lot of
> developers here who want to talk nuts and bolts. So if you have comments
> that you think may NOT be of interest to the readers of this forum, please
> feel free to send them directly to: clint@....
> > > >
> > > > Clint Foster
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 1:33 AM, Jon.S < bulkmailme@...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I just see the front web page today( http://grails.org/). I think if
> you say
> > > > > 45 bug fixes in version 1.0.1, some people might sees this version
> is still
> > > > > not production ready and will wait until its stable. I like grails
> and hope
> > > > > that many people will try this program also.
> > > > >
> > > > > Just a suggestion, might be its better if we say something along
> like "
> > > > > Grails 1.0.1 are updated with features from our vibrant forums... ?
> ".
> > > > >
> > > > > Please pardon my english, but I think you get my meaning.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Joni S
> > > > > --
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> http://www.nabble.com/Grails-1.0.1-is-out-tp15548113p15731885.html> > > > > Sent from the grails - user mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
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Re: Grails 1.0.1 is out
I think this is fantastic that you shared this with us Felipe - thanks
very much.
Just to let it set in for folks: a 1 million hit-per-month website
with 200,000 users on a single $250/month box. I hope that quells any
concerns that Grails isn't good enough for most sites.
If you had a server farm with load balancers (and a corresponding
sufficient database farm and SAN) there's no reason Grails couldn't
scale to the sizes of much larger sites. Throw in TerraCotta or
GigaSpaces and you're talking about massive (linear!) scalability.
But Felipe said it best - the reason this isn't a problem for Grails
is that because it is all Java and excellent frameworks under the hood
with the ease-of-use and flexibility of Groovy (still Java!).
Anyway, its still nice to hear success stories, and it is especially
rewarding to hear about early adopters vindicated - you stuck your
neck out on the line and risked a lot, and its nice to see it all pay
off for you :)
Cheers,
Les
On 2/29/08, Guillaume Laforge < glaforge@...> wrote:
> Cool, shouldn't it be listed there?
> http://grails.org/Success+Stories>
>
> On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 7:40 PM, Felipe Nascimento < felipenasc@...> wrote:
> > It is a brazillian entertainement web site. So it is in portuguese...sorry
> > for that :-)
> > Here it is:
> >
> > http://www.noiteuniversitaria.com.br/> >
> > Cheers
> > Felipe
> >
> >
> >
> > 2008/2/29, Mandeville, Kevin (BuyerZone) < kmandeville@...>:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > I would love to be able to see more examples of production grails
> > applications in the wild, if you are willing to, and able to, give out the
> > url to your production site...
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > From: Clint Foster [mailto: clint.foster@...]
> > > Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 11:13 AM
> > > To: user@...
> > > Subject: Re: [grails-user] Grails 1.0.1 is out
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks for the response. That's exactly the kind of input I was looking
> > for. Nothing would make us happier than for our site to become as popular as
> > amazon or eBay. But for now we would happily settle for the kind of traffic
> > you are seeing on your site.
> > >
> > > I guess the ability to handle load is really more dependent on the hosting
> > hardware, the database, the web server, etc. The efficiency of GORM could be
> > one area in question when it comes to scaling. But assuming it is
> > acceptable, I suppose the question is whether it will be easy to implement
> > high-customized behavior when we reach a point where we need to do that. I'm
> > assuming the answer is yes. Convention over Configuration shouldn't mean you
> > can't specify details when you really need to, after all.
> > >
> > > PS: Is your site publicly viewable, and if so would it be appropriate for
> > you to share the URL with us? I'm sure others would like to see an example
> > of a mature site implemented in Grails. Or perhaps you could email it to me
> > directly if you don't want that much traffic...
> > >
> > > Clint
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 9:05 PM, Felipe Nascimento < felipenasc@...>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > What do you call "a large commercial"?
> > > > I have a I grails application running in production since grails 0.6. It
> > has 200.000 users, with 1 million page views per month.
> > > > Is this big enough? Or to you, "big" is something more like amazon, or
> > eBay?
> > > >
> > > > For me: yes, grails is stable enough for production. It is based on
> > Spring, Hibernate, Sitemesh, and so on.... they are all stable enough IMHO.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers
> > > > Felipe
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2008/2/28, Clint Foster < clint.foster@...>:
> > > > > FWIW, I'm currently evaluating Grails for development of a fairly
> > complex web site that will potentially have a large number of users. The "45
> > bug fixes" thing didn't turn me off at all. I prefer candor over spin,
> > particularly for a developer-oriented site like grails.org.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm still evaluating, so I can't comment on whether Grails appears
> > mature enough at this point to use it for a large commercial application. If
> > it's appropriate for this forum, I would be interested in hearing any
> > thoughts people may have on the subject. I know there are a lot of
> > developers here who want to talk nuts and bolts. So if you have comments
> > that you think may NOT be of interest to the readers of this forum, please
> > feel free to send them directly to: clint@....
> > > > >
> > > > > Clint Foster
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 1:33 AM, Jon.S < bulkmailme@...> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I just see the front web page today( http://grails.org/). I think if
> > you say
> > > > > > 45 bug fixes in version 1.0.1, some people might sees this version
> > is still
> > > > > > not production ready and will wait until its stable. I like grails
> > and hope
> > > > > > that many people will try this program also.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Just a suggestion, might be its better if we say something along
> > like "
> > > > > > Grails 1.0.1 are updated with features from our vibrant forums... ?
> > ".
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Please pardon my english, but I think you get my meaning.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Joni S
> > > > > > --
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