Grails Hosting: Which Company, Which Application Server

[christian.sonne.jensen]

I've been using Grails for a while, but have not until resently had a need for Hosting.
Now that time has come, and I must say that I have been surprised by how much resources a Grails App needs. I have setup an account at eApps with Tomcat 6 and MySql and around 300 MB RAM. But that solution crashed ALL the time with an OOM. It can only run for a few hours before that happens.

Tomcat, I'm afraid, is very unstable when redeploying an application (uploading). This usually takes it down with OOM.

I was therefore wondering which app servers are the best, the most stable for a grails solution. What are your experiences?

As for Hosting, we are considering Morph and EC2 (by Amazon). I've had a good experience with both, but they are expensive - at least compared to "normal" hosting like eApps. And I find that the Morph admin interface is awful. EC2 is Top-Nice, but even more expensive.

I would appreciate hearing about your experiences with grails Hosting...

Thanks,

Christian Sonne Jensen

 

[Paul Bowler]

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Christian,

I had identical problems to you about a year back and came to the conclusion that EC2 is currently the most flexible and cost-effective hosting solution for grails.

I had also tried Morph (not enough memory) and EApps. The latter runs Grails apps fine although you'll need one of the advanced plans which is roughly the same price as EC2.

For EC2 I use CloudFoundry to manage my applications. This is great while it is free, but no information has been released about costs in the future.

I was hoping that Google AppEngine would provide a cheaper solution, but I didn't fancy rewriting my application until the platform has its many faults ironed out.

Paul.

 

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Subject: [grails-user] Grails Hosting: Which Company, Which Application Server


I've been using Grails for a while, but have not until resently had a need
for Hosting.
Now that time has come, and I must say that I have been surprised by how
much resources a Grails App needs. I have setup an account at eApps with
Tomcat 6 and MySql and around 300 MB RAM. But that solution crashed ALL the
time with an OOM. It can only run for a few hours before that happens.

Tomcat, I'm afraid, is very unstable when redeploying an application
(uploading). This usually takes it down with OOM.

I was therefore wondering which app servers are the best, the most stable
for a grails solution. What are your experiences?

As for Hosting, we are considering Morph and EC2 (by Amazon). I've had a
good experience with both, but they are expensive - at least compared to
"normal" hosting like eApps. And I find that the Morph admin interface is
awful. EC2 is Top-Nice, but even more expensive.

I would appreciate hearing about your experiences with grails Hosting...

Thanks,

Christian Sonne Jensen




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[Daniel Guryca-2]

Hi,

What you describe is a normal java infrastructure behaviour. It has nothing to do with grails. Yes grails or better say groovy adds some more memory requirements but it's not so bad as one would expect.

All java apps need enough memory to work properly.

Redeploying your application again and again is not a good idea. After each redeploy you should restart whole tomcat. Best approach is to run 1 tomcat per 1 application (virtual servers).

Increasing permgen memory can help. JRockit JVM can help a lot.

Cheers
Daniel

On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Paul Bowler <paul_bowler@...> wrote:

Christian,

I had identical problems to you about a year back and came to the conclusion that EC2 is currently the most flexible and cost-effective hosting solution for grails.

I had also tried Morph (not enough memory) and EApps. The latter runs Grails apps fine although you'll need one of the advanced plans which is roughly the same price as EC2.

For EC2 I use CloudFoundry to manage my applications. This is great while it is free, but no information has been released about costs in the future.

I was hoping that Google AppEngine would provide a cheaper solution, but I didn't fancy rewriting my application until the platform has its many faults ironed out.

Paul.

 

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From: christian.sonne.jensen <csj.the.man@...>
To: user@...
Sent: Friday, 7 August, 2009 9:11:08
Subject: [grails-user] Grails Hosting: Which Company, Which Application Server


I've been using Grails for a while, but have not until resently had a need
for Hosting.
Now that time has come, and I must say that I have been surprised by how
much resources a Grails App needs. I have setup an account at eApps with
Tomcat 6 and MySql and around 300 MB RAM. But that solution crashed ALL the
time with an OOM. It can only run for a few hours before that happens.

Tomcat, I'm afraid, is very unstable when redeploying an application
(uploading). This usually takes it down with OOM.

I was therefore wondering which app servers are the best, the most stable
for a grails solution. What are your experiences?

As for Hosting, we are considering Morph and EC2 (by Amazon). I've had a
good experience with both, but they are expensive - at least compared to
"normal" hosting like eApps. And I find that the Morph admin interface is
awful. EC2 is Top-Nice, but even more expensive.

I would appreciate hearing about your experiences with grails Hosting...

Thanks,

Christian Sonne Jensen




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[Lucas Teixeira]

Remeber that JRockit has a better performance/speed/gc/etc, but to achieve this, it uses more memory. 

[]s,

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On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 5:56 AM, Daniel Guryca <dunsun@...> wrote:

Hi,

What you describe is a normal java infrastructure behaviour. It has nothing to do with grails. Yes grails or better say groovy adds some more memory requirements but it's not so bad as one would expect.

All java apps need enough memory to work properly.

Redeploying your application again and again is not a good idea. After each redeploy you should restart whole tomcat. Best approach is to run 1 tomcat per 1 application (virtual servers).

Increasing permgen memory can help. JRockit JVM can help a lot.

Cheers
Daniel

On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Paul Bowler <paul_bowler@...> wrote:

Christian,

I had identical problems to you about a year back and came to the conclusion that EC2 is currently the most flexible and cost-effective hosting solution for grails.

I had also tried Morph (not enough memory) and EApps. The latter runs Grails apps fine although you'll need one of the advanced plans which is roughly the same price as EC2.

For EC2 I use CloudFoundry to manage my applications. This is great while it is free, but no information has been released about costs in the future.

I was hoping that Google AppEngine would provide a cheaper solution, but I didn't fancy rewriting my application until the platform has its many faults ironed out.

Paul.

 

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From: christian.sonne.jensen <csj.the.man@...>
To: user@...
Sent: Friday, 7 August, 2009 9:11:08
Subject: [grails-user] Grails Hosting: Which Company, Which Application Server


I've been using Grails for a while, but have not until resently had a need
for Hosting.
Now that time has come, and I must say that I have been surprised by how
much resources a Grails App needs. I have setup an account at eApps with
Tomcat 6 and MySql and around 300 MB RAM. But that solution crashed ALL the
time with an OOM. It can only run for a few hours before that happens.

Tomcat, I'm afraid, is very unstable when redeploying an application
(uploading). This usually takes it down with OOM.

I was therefore wondering which app servers are the best, the most stable
for a grails solution. What are your experiences?

As for Hosting, we are considering Morph and EC2 (by Amazon). I've had a
good experience with both, but they are expensive - at least compared to
"normal" hosting like eApps. And I find that the Morph admin interface is
awful. EC2 is Top-Nice, but even more expensive.

I would appreciate hearing about your experiences with grails Hosting...

Thanks,

Christian Sonne Jensen




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[Lucas Teixeira]

I'm using www.enjoyvps.com to set my own VPS. 

For $20 monthly you can get a VPS with 1gb RAM. ($10 for 512 and $40 for 2gb).

[]s,

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On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 5:11 AM, christian.sonne.jensen <csj.the.man@...> wrote:

I've been using Grails for a while, but have not until resently had a need
for Hosting.
Now that time has come, and I must say that I have been surprised by how
much resources a Grails App needs. I have setup an account at eApps with
Tomcat 6 and MySql and around 300 MB RAM. But that solution crashed ALL the
time with an OOM. It can only run for a few hours before that happens.

Tomcat, I'm afraid, is very unstable when redeploying an application
(uploading). This usually takes it down with OOM.

I was therefore wondering which app servers are the best, the most stable
for a grails solution. What are your experiences?

As for Hosting, we are considering Morph and EC2 (by Amazon). I've had a
good experience with both, but they are expensive - at least compared to
"normal" hosting like eApps. And I find that the Morph admin interface is
awful. EC2 is Top-Nice, but even more expensive.

I would appreciate hearing about your experiences with grails Hosting...

Thanks,

Christian Sonne Jensen




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[Dave Cherry via Nabble]

I too use a VPS solution, I need the site to host in the UK for various reasons. Have found that easyspace provide some reasonably priced UK based VPS solutions.

I have a single VPS with 768M RAM, 2 grails apps running in one tomcat 6 / sun JDK 6 instance fronted by apache. I find this to be stable over time. Personally I do not use any form of reloading (all turned off in server.xml), instead I just stop the server, expand the archive manually, delete the work directory for the virtual host and restart. Call me old fashioned but it works every time.

You'll realistically need a VPS with at least 512MB RAM. If you are using mysql turn off inno-db if you can, it uses a lot of memory.

Lucas F. A. Teixeira-2 wrote:

I'm using www.enjoyvps.com to set my own VPS. For $20 monthly you can get a
VPS with 1gb RAM. ($10 for 512 and $40 for 2gb).

[]s,



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On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 5:11 AM, christian.sonne.jensen <
[e-mail]> wrote:

>
> I've been using Grails for a while, but have not until resently had a need
> for Hosting.
> Now that time has come, and I must say that I have been surprised by how
> much resources a Grails App needs. I have setup an account at eApps with
> Tomcat 6 and MySql and around 300 MB RAM. But that solution crashed ALL the
> time with an OOM. It can only run for a few hours before that happens.
>
> Tomcat, I'm afraid, is very unstable when redeploying an application
> (uploading). This usually takes it down with OOM.
>
> I was therefore wondering which app servers are the best, the most stable
> for a grails solution. What are your experiences?
>
> As for Hosting, we are considering Morph and EC2 (by Amazon). I've had a
> good experience with both, but they are expensive - at least compared to
> "normal" hosting like eApps. And I find that the Morph admin interface is
> awful. EC2 is Top-Nice, but even more expensive.
>
> I would appreciate hearing about your experiences with grails Hosting...
>
> Thanks,
>
> Christian Sonne Jensen
>
>
>
>
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[Scott Ryan-2]

I have a number of customers hosting very large applications on both  
eapps and 1and1 hosting.  Tomcat has been very stable for us with  
grails but like any other server does take some tuning.  In the past I  
have seen that any application that uses HIbernate and Spring  
regardless of whether it is Grails or pure java requires some tuning  
of the tomcat server.  There are several reasons that your application  
might be growing in memory requirements as you add users or load and  
you need to understand and tune both the application and server for  
those impacts.


Scott Ryan
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On Aug 7, 2009, at 2:11 AM, christian.sonne.jensen wrote:

>
> I've been using Grails for a while, but have not until resently had  
> a need
> for Hosting.
> Now that time has come, and I must say that I have been surprised by  
> how
> much resources a Grails App needs. I have setup an account at eApps  
> with
> Tomcat 6 and MySql and around 300 MB RAM. But that solution crashed  
> ALL the
> time with an OOM. It can only run for a few hours before that happens.
>
> Tomcat, I'm afraid, is very unstable when redeploying an application
> (uploading). This usually takes it down with OOM.
>
> I was therefore wondering which app servers are the best, the most  
> stable
> for a grails solution. What are your experiences?
>
> As for Hosting, we are considering Morph and EC2 (by Amazon). I've  
> had a
> good experience with both, but they are expensive - at least  
> compared to
> "normal" hosting like eApps. And I find that the Morph admin  
> interface is
> awful. EC2 is Top-Nice, but even more expensive.
>
> I would appreciate hearing about your experiences with grails  
> Hosting...
>
> Thanks,
>
> Christian Sonne Jensen
>
>
>
>
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[Mauro-27]

2009/8/7 Daniel Guryca <dunsun@...>:

> Hi,
>
> What you describe is a normal java infrastructure behaviour. It has nothing
> to do with grails. Yes grails or better say groovy adds some more memory
> requirements but it's not so bad as one would expect.
>
> All java apps need enough memory to work properly.
>
> Redeploying your application again and again is not a good idea. After each
> redeploy you should restart whole tomcat. Best approach is to run 1 tomcat
> per 1 application (virtual servers).

one tomcat per one application?
So if I have, say, 10 applications I must run 10 tomcats?

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[Daniel Guryca-2]

If you run it on your own server than it's the best approach as you do not have to care of "I have just redeployed this application 2 times ... should I restart the whole tomcat with all other applications running on it ? ..."

Cheers
Daniel

On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Mauro <mrsanna1@...> wrote:

2009/8/7 Daniel Guryca <dunsun@...>:

> Hi,
>
> What you describe is a normal java infrastructure behaviour. It has nothing
> to do with grails. Yes grails or better say groovy adds some more memory
> requirements but it's not so bad as one would expect.
>
> All java apps need enough memory to work properly.
>
> Redeploying your application again and again is not a good idea. After each
> redeploy you should restart whole tomcat. Best approach is to run 1 tomcat
> per 1 application (virtual servers).

one tomcat per one application?
So if I have, say, 10 applications I must run 10 tomcats?

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[Dave Cherry via Nabble]

Its a case of memory over inconvenience. To me running on a 768M VPS, the cost of a 2nd JVM would be too great, so I run both apps in the same instance of tomcat. On most VPS solutions virtual memory works differently and everything has to fit into physical RAM.

However, if you have real virtual memory then that's a different story.

Something to bear in mind if you go the VPS route!

Daniel Guryca-2 wrote:

If you run it on your own server than it's the best approach as you do not
have to care of "I have just redeployed this application 2 times ... should
I restart the whole tomcat with all other applications running on it ? ..."

[Daniel Guryca-2]

Yes that's true I just was not clear enough.
Running 1 jvm instance for every app can be really overkill on VPS.

Fortunately I do not have to care abou it ... running everything on our own servers and infrastructure :)

Cheers
Daniel

On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Dave Cherry via Nabble <dave@...> wrote:

Its a case of memory over inconvenience. To me running on a 768M VPS, the
cost of a 2nd JVM would be too great, so I run both apps in the same
instance of tomcat. On most VPS solutions virtual memory works differently
and everything has to fit into physical RAM.

However, if you have real virtual memory then that's a different story.

Something to bear in mind if you go the VPS route!

Daniel Guryca-2 wrote:
>
> If you run it on your own server than it's the best approach as you do not
> have to care of "I have just redeployed this application 2 times ...
> should
> I restart the whole tomcat with all other applications running on it ?
> ..."
>

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[Moe-25]

Hi folks, 

I finally moved out the app from my home and did some research on the matter. After talking with some folks here I found that Hetzner was the best choice for me. I also looked at Amazon which I found to be more expensive.

For 50 Euros a month you get a Quad Core, 8GB Mem , 750 GB software raid, 100GB backup space, 100Mbit/s (limited amount), up to 4 ips. You have root access so you can do whatever you want and they have great support and functionalities for various things, and it's very easy to get started. 

The manual is in German though, but many other things are in English and you don't necessarily need the manual.

There is also a 150 Euros setup fee. But there are also cheaper options with no setup fee.

http://hetzner.de/en/

-- Moe

On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Daniel Guryca <dunsun@...> wrote:

Yes that's true I just was not clear enough.
Running 1 jvm instance for every app can be really overkill on VPS.

Fortunately I do not have to care abou it ... running everything on our own servers and infrastructure :)

Cheers
Daniel

On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Dave Cherry via Nabble <dave@...> wrote:

Its a case of memory over inconvenience. To me running on a 768M VPS, the
cost of a 2nd JVM would be too great, so I run both apps in the same
instance of tomcat. On most VPS solutions virtual memory works differently
and everything has to fit into physical RAM.

However, if you have real virtual memory then that's a different story.

Something to bear in mind if you go the VPS route!

Daniel Guryca-2 wrote:
>
> If you run it on your own server than it's the best approach as you do not
> have to care of "I have just redeployed this application 2 times ...
> should
> I restart the whole tomcat with all other applications running on it ?
> ..."
>

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[Burt Beckwith]

Those prices look good - too good. What's the catch? Are performance, uptime, manageability, etc. ok?

Burt

On Friday 07 August 2009 6:10:33 am Lucas F. A. Teixeira wrote:

> I'm using www.enjoyvps.com to set my own VPS. For $20 monthly you can get a
> VPS with 1gb RAM. ($10 for 512 and $40 for 2gb).
>
> []s,
>
>
>
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> - blog.lucastex.com
> - twitter.com/lucastex

[Jeff Brown-14]

On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 3:11 AM,
christian.sonne.jensen<csj.the.man@...> wrote:

>
> I've been using Grails for a while, but have not until resently had a need
> for Hosting.
> Now that time has come, and I must say that I have been surprised by how
> much resources a Grails App needs. I have setup an account at eApps with
> Tomcat 6 and MySql and around 300 MB RAM. But that solution crashed ALL the
> time with an OOM. It can only run for a few hours before that happens.
>
> Tomcat, I'm afraid, is very unstable when redeploying an application
> (uploading). This usually takes it down with OOM.
>
> I was therefore wondering which app servers are the best, the most stable
> for a grails solution. What are your experiences?
>
> As for Hosting, we are considering Morph and EC2 (by Amazon). I've had a
> good experience with both, but they are expensive - at least compared to
> "normal" hosting like eApps. And I find that the Morph admin interface is
> awful. EC2 is Top-Nice, but even more expensive.
>
> I would appreciate hearing about your experiences with grails Hosting...
>
> Thanks,
>
> Christian Sonne Jensen
>
>

If you are looking for personal scale hosting for $20/month, this may
not help you but if you are looking for serious enterprise hosting...

I cannot say enough good things about Contegix.  They are a full
service managed hosting provider and "full service" is "full service".
 Whatever I want done to the box, they take care of.  Until I started
using them I really didn't appreciate what they had to offer.  Their
business is not all about hosting Grails apps but hosting Grails apps
is very light lifting for them.
 .


jb
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[Daniel Honig]

On the high end Contegix is awesome, for a more do-it-yourself and cost effective solution I am fond
www.linode.com

On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Jeff Brown <jeff@...> wrote:

On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 3:11 AM,
christian.sonne.jensen<csj.the.man@...> wrote:
>
> I've been using Grails for a while, but have not until resently had a need
> for Hosting.
> Now that time has come, and I must say that I have been surprised by how
> much resources a Grails App needs. I have setup an account at eApps with
> Tomcat 6 and MySql and around 300 MB RAM. But that solution crashed ALL the
> time with an OOM. It can only run for a few hours before that happens.
>
> Tomcat, I'm afraid, is very unstable when redeploying an application
> (uploading). This usually takes it down with OOM.
>
> I was therefore wondering which app servers are the best, the most stable
> for a grails solution. What are your experiences?
>
> As for Hosting, we are considering Morph and EC2 (by Amazon). I've had a
> good experience with both, but they are expensive - at least compared to
> "normal" hosting like eApps. And I find that the Morph admin interface is
> awful. EC2 is Top-Nice, but even more expensive.
>
> I would appreciate hearing about your experiences with grails Hosting...
>
> Thanks,
>
> Christian Sonne Jensen
>
>

If you are looking for personal scale hosting for $20/month, this may
not help you but if you are looking for serious enterprise hosting...

I cannot say enough good things about Contegix.  They are a full
service managed hosting provider and "full service" is "full service".
 Whatever I want done to the box, they take care of.  Until I started
using them I really didn't appreciate what they had to offer.  Their
business is not all about hosting Grails apps but hosting Grails apps
is very light lifting for them.
 .


jb
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[Moe-25]

On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Burt Beckwith <burt@...> wrote:

Those prices look good - too good. What's the catch? Are performance, uptime, manageability, etc. ok?

There is no catch except for ( as far as I know ) :

*Traffic Usage is free. We will restrict the connection speed to 10 MBit/s if more than 2000 GB/month is exceeded. Optional, a permanent 100 MBit/s-bandwidth will be charged at 14,90 € (incl. VAT) per additional TB

Product matrix : 

http://www.hetzner.de/en/hosting/produktmatrix/rootserver-produktmatrix/

However, I have my doubts about the speed being at that level, but I haven't really givin' it a proper test.

- Moe

Burt

On Friday 07 August 2009 6:10:33 am Lucas F. A. Teixeira wrote:
> I'm using www.enjoyvps.com to set my own VPS. For $20 monthly you can get a
> VPS with 1gb RAM. ($10 for 512 and $40 for 2gb).
>
> []s,
>
>
>
> Lucas Frare Teixeira .·.
> - lucastex@...
> - blog.lucastex.com
> - twitter.com/lucastex

[OreoC]

They are in south africa, which until recently(?) had a pretty poor
backbone to "earth" in general.

So I'm guessing somehow they are slow.

That is just a guess

Roger


On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Moe<mohamed5432154321@...> wrote:

> On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Burt Beckwith <burt@...> wrote:
>>
>> Those prices look good - too good. What's the catch? Are performance,
>> uptime, manageability, etc. ok?
>
>
> There is no catch except for ( as far as I know ) :
>
> *Traffic Usage is free. We will restrict the connection speed to 10 MBit/s
> if more than 2000 GB/month is exceeded. Optional, a permanent 100
> MBit/s-bandwidth will be charged at 14,90 € (incl. VAT) per additional TB
>
> Product matrix :
> http://www.hetzner.de/en/hosting/produktmatrix/rootserver-produktmatrix/
>
> However, I have my doubts about the speed being at that level, but I haven't
> really givin' it a proper test.
> - Moe
>
>
>>
>> Burt
>>
>> On Friday 07 August 2009 6:10:33 am Lucas F. A. Teixeira wrote:
>> > I'm using www.enjoyvps.com to set my own VPS. For $20 monthly you can
>> > get a
>> > VPS with 1gb RAM. ($10 for 512 and $40 for 2gb).
>> >
>> > []s,
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Lucas Frare Teixeira .·.
>> > - lucastex@...
>> > - blog.lucastex.com
>> > - twitter.com/lucastex
>
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[Lucas Teixeira]

Burt,

I'm using a 512mb as a 'stage' env for my app.

Probably will deploy it there, in another server with 1gb or 2gb when the app gets ready.

Nothing to claim right now, everything is OK. 

But you have the root account and gotta setup all yourself.

[]s,

Lucas

Lucas Frare Teixeira .·.
- lucastex@...
- blog.lucastex.com
- twitter.com/lucastex

On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Burt Beckwith <burt@...> wrote:

Those prices look good - too good. What's the catch? Are performance, uptime, manageability, etc. ok?

Burt

On Friday 07 August 2009 6:10:33 am Lucas F. A. Teixeira wrote:
> I'm using www.enjoyvps.com to set my own VPS. For $20 monthly you can get a
> VPS with 1gb RAM. ($10 for 512 and $40 for 2gb).
>
> []s,
>
>
>
> Lucas Frare Teixeira .·.
> - lucastex@...
> - blog.lucastex.com
> - twitter.com/lucastex

[isterin]

About how much is contegix?  I don't see any pricing on their site and
don't really feel like contacting their sales to just get a roundabout
figure.

Ilya

On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Jeff Brown<jeff@...> wrote:

> On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 3:11 AM,
> christian.sonne.jensen<csj.the.man@...> wrote:
>>
>> I've been using Grails for a while, but have not until resently had a need
>> for Hosting.
>> Now that time has come, and I must say that I have been surprised by how
>> much resources a Grails App needs. I have setup an account at eApps with
>> Tomcat 6 and MySql and around 300 MB RAM. But that solution crashed ALL the
>> time with an OOM. It can only run for a few hours before that happens.
>>
>> Tomcat, I'm afraid, is very unstable when redeploying an application
>> (uploading). This usually takes it down with OOM.
>>
>> I was therefore wondering which app servers are the best, the most stable
>> for a grails solution. What are your experiences?
>>
>> As for Hosting, we are considering Morph and EC2 (by Amazon). I've had a
>> good experience with both, but they are expensive - at least compared to
>> "normal" hosting like eApps. And I find that the Morph admin interface is
>> awful. EC2 is Top-Nice, but even more expensive.
>>
>> I would appreciate hearing about your experiences with grails Hosting...
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Christian Sonne Jensen
>>
>>
>
> If you are looking for personal scale hosting for $20/month, this may
> not help you but if you are looking for serious enterprise hosting...
>
> I cannot say enough good things about Contegix.  They are a full
> service managed hosting provider and "full service" is "full service".
>  Whatever I want done to the box, they take care of.  Until I started
> using them I really didn't appreciate what they had to offer.  Their
> business is not all about hosting Grails apps but hosting Grails apps
> is very light lifting for them.
>  .
>
>
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[Scott-88]

What database are you using with the VPS?  I would think that the  
choice would have a significant impact on memory used by the Vps

On Aug 7, 2009, at 9:21 AM, Dave Cherry via Nabble  
<dave@...> wrote:

>
> Its a case of memory over inconvenience. To me running on a 768M  
> VPS, the
> cost of a 2nd JVM would be too great, so I run both apps in the same
> instance of tomcat. On most VPS solutions virtual memory works  
> differently
> and everything has to fit into physical RAM.
>
> However, if you have real virtual memory then that's a different  
> story.
>
> Something to bear in mind if you go the VPS route!
>
>
> Daniel Guryca-2 wrote:
>>
>> If you run it on your own server than it's the best approach as you  
>> do not
>> have to care of "I have just redeployed this application 2 times ...
>> should
>> I restart the whole tomcat with all other applications running on  
>> it ?
>> ..."
>>
>
>
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