Gramps 3.0.4.1 Windows Version Available

[Edward Comer]

I have uploaded, for testing, Gramps 3.0.4.1 for Windows. If you load and test it, please provide some feedback.

Download it from:

http://drop.io/gramps4win

Password = gramps

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[Duncan Lithgow-2]

2008/12/7 Edward Comer <ecomer@...>:
> I have uploaded, for testing, Gramps 3.0.4.1 for Windows. If you load and test it, please provide some feedback.
>
> Download it from:
>
> http://drop.io/gramps4win
>
> Password = gramps
I notice that the file is called just
gramps-3.0.4-1.exe
Would you consider naming it with this structure:
* gramps_3.0.4-1_winxp2000.exe (it runs on win2000 I assume)
... and if it's really for testing for now then maybe:
* gramps_3.0.4-beta1_winxp2000.exe
then it will sit nicely with the other builds for specific OSs
* gramps_3.0.4-1_Ubuntu804.deb
* gramps_3.0.4-1_Ubuntu810.deb

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[Edward Comer]

Duncan,

Per your request, I renamed the windows version "gramps_3.0.4-1_winxp2000.exe".
Download it from: http://drop.io/gramps4win Password = gramps

I have loaded on my Windows XP machine and it works there, for those functions that I use (which is NOT every function). I have no way to test on Win2K although, in theory, it should work.

I have only placed it on the drop.io site so that others could test it. After a while, assuming that I hear of no problems, I will request that it be loaded onto the regular GRAMPS site. As far as testing is concerned, I refer only to the installation process as all that I have done is package GRAMPs for Windows installation and cannot address functionality problems of GRAMPS itself.

Ed Comer


--- On Sun, 12/7/08, Duncan Lithgow <dlithgow@...> wrote:
...
> From: Duncan Lithgow <dlithgow@...>
> I notice that the file is called just
> gramps-3.0.4-1.exe
> Would you consider naming it with this structure:
> gramps_3.0.4-1_winxp2000.exe (it runs on win2000 I assume)
> ... and if it's really for testing for now then maybe:
...
> Regards, Duncan


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[dsblank]

FYI, this installer does not seem to install on Vista. It complains
about pygtk, glade, and pycairo not being installed, even though they
are (under python 2.5.2). If it can be made to work under Vista, a
better name might be gramps_X.X.X_win32.exe (but marking it for
Python2.5 as well. There will have to be another version for Python2.6).

As Benny mentioned in another place, GRAMPS should be able to be
installed through easy_install. Anyone have experience with that?

Perhaps we can make a windows sources version in zip format, too?
Installation seems to be hard to do on a regular Vista box.

-Doug

Edward Comer wrote:

> Duncan,
>
> Per your request, I renamed the windows version
> "gramps_3.0.4-1_winxp2000.exe". Download it from:
> http://drop.io/gramps4win Password = gramps
>
> I have loaded on my Windows XP machine and it works there, for those
> functions that I use (which is NOT every function). I have no way to
> test on Win2K although, in theory, it should work.
>
> I have only placed it on the drop.io site so that others could test
> it. After a while, assuming that I hear of no problems, I will
> request that it be loaded onto the regular GRAMPS site. As far as
> testing is concerned, I refer only to the installation process as all
> that I have done is package GRAMPs for Windows installation and
> cannot address functionality problems of GRAMPS itself.
>
> Ed Comer
>
>
> --- On Sun, 12/7/08, Duncan Lithgow <dlithgow@...> wrote: ...
>> From: Duncan Lithgow <dlithgow@...> I notice that the file is
>> called just gramps-3.0.4-1.exe Would you consider naming it with
>> this structure: gramps_3.0.4-1_winxp2000.exe (it runs on win2000 I
>> assume) ... and if it's really for testing for now then maybe:
> ...
>> Regards, Duncan
>
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[steve_geo]

Hi,

> FYI, this installer does not seem to install on Vista. It complains
> about pygtk, glade, and pycairo not being installed,
The "pygtk, glade, and pycairo not installed" error may be due to a bug
in the nsis install script that Ed is using.
If you run the installer again a second time (while python et. al are
still cached) does it work?

The problem is in these lines of the nsis install script:
    Exec '"$3" $TEMP\gcheck.py $1'
    DetailPrint "Pausing for gcheck.py exectution..."
    Sleep 1000
This will create a thread to run cgheck
It will then sleep one second, and then go looking for results, ... the
thread my not have finished (due to having to load python, and
libraries, and write a file to file system), this is when it fails, the
second run of installer, it seems python? is still resident in memory
and faster to start up?

If you replace those three lines with:
    ExecWait '"$3" $TEMP\gcheck.py $1'
The install script does not proceed until the execution of cgheck.py is
complete, it's a better solution.

I have done a number of fixes/new features to the nsis install script
(already committed to version control), however as some of the new
features are writing things to the registry it now requires a user with
privileges for installation. - don't know in the scheme of things if
this is an issue or not - are there many people who install as
restricted users?.

I need to learn more about windows registry and permissions, to change
the script so it can be run as a more restricted user, i.e. saving into
the registry under 'current user'

Vista may also impose other restrictions on what and where we can
install things to, that may need to be worked into the install script,
however I am not currently able to test under vista.

Also I don't have time to work on this until  Feb next year.
>  even though they
> are (under python 2.5.2). If it can be made to work under Vista, a
> better name might be gramps_X.X.X_win32.exe (but marking it for
> Python2.5 as well. There will have to be another version for Python2.6).
>  
I agree that  gramps_X.X.X_win32.exe is a better name, however I am
unsure if adding python version is relevant, given that the installer is
not installing any python libraries, it is the users responsibility to
get their python/pygtk/gtk environment setup previously before
installing gramps.

The only thing that is 'compiled' before installation is the language
files, and the install script itself, I don't know if that precludes it
from running on 64 bit os, if you have the python/gtk/pygtk chain in place.

The install script does do some trolling through the registry looking
for python, to run the gcheck.py program.
It looks under various registry keys, including several with python2.4
and python2.5 in the key name, it would seem we will need to add some
for python2.6

Also it seems it will use the first version of python it finds, if
someone has multiple versions of python installed or dags hanging around
in the registry, it might give unexpected results.

> As Benny mentioned in another place, GRAMPS should be able to be
> installed through easy_install. Anyone have experience with that?
>  
no experience with easy_install
> Perhaps we can make a windows sources version in zip format, too?
> Installation seems to be hard to do on a regular Vista box.
That's easy to do if it's needed.
Steve
>  
> -Doug
>
>  

> Edward Comer wrote:
>  
>> Duncan,
>>
>> Per your request, I renamed the windows version
>> "gramps_3.0.4-1_winxp2000.exe". Download it from:
>> http://drop.io/gramps4win Password = gramps
>>
>> I have loaded on my Windows XP machine and it works there, for those
>> functions that I use (which is NOT every function). I have no way to
>> test on Win2K although, in theory, it should work.
>>
>> I have only placed it on the drop.io site so that others could test
>> it. After a while, assuming that I hear of no problems, I will
>> request that it be loaded onto the regular GRAMPS site. As far as
>> testing is concerned, I refer only to the installation process as all
>> that I have done is package GRAMPs for Windows installation and
>> cannot address functionality problems of GRAMPS itself.
>>
>> Ed Comer
>>
>>
>> --- On Sun, 12/7/08, Duncan Lithgow <dlithgow@...> wrote: ...
>>    
>>> From: Duncan Lithgow <dlithgow@...> I notice that the file is
>>> called just gramps-3.0.4-1.exe Would you consider naming it with
>>> this structure: gramps_3.0.4-1_winxp2000.exe (it runs on win2000 I
>>> assume) ... and if it's really for testing for now then maybe:
>>>      
>> ...
>>    
>>> Regards, Duncan
>>>      

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[Edward Comer]

OK - I just implemented Steven George's suggested change and uploaded to drop.io. I have NOT tested it to see what effect the change will make with Vista, Win2K or XP. I can only test with XP. I don't own Vista, and never will.

windows version of "gramps_3.0.4-1_winxp2000.exe". Download it from:
http://drop.io/gramps4win Password = gramps

ONLY tested with Windows XP!

Please respond with your experience with this installer, Thank you.

Ed Comer


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[Jim Winfrey]

On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Edward Comer <ecomer@...> wrote:
>
> I have uploaded, for testing, Gramps 3.0.4.1 for Windows. If you load and test it, please provide some feedback.
>
> Download it from:
>
> http://drop.io/gramps4win
>
> Password = gramps


Edward,

Downloaded and installed in Vista.  Haven't tested details yet but
basic moving between options, editing individuals, etc appear to work
correctly.  Very nice install process.

Jim

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[Duncan Lithgow-2]

The idea with the naming structure, as I understand it, is that the
version is named x.x.x-b_os. Here 'x.x.x' is the version of the
developers and -b is the version of the build. So each time the
package is re-built/ re packaged it should be -b+1. Otherwise there's
no way to see if the version I've recently downloaded is the most
recent built. Which reminds me, is this version number also being set
inside the program? I don't have it running on windows so I can't
check.

Does the designation win32 include win95 and win98?

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[Edward Comer]

The version number is manually set in the install build script in order to fetch the proper sources, but the program is untouched in any way. Therefore, whatever version number, etc, would be present in the Linux installation is also present in the Windows installation.


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[steve_geo]

Ed is correct the version number is manually set in the build script to
get the correct sources, the script also uses that same (manually set
number) to write out const.py which is the version number that gramps
uses and displays in the about box.
I would not say this method is fool proof, but it seems to work

note: const.py is a build generated file no matter what build process
you use. however other build process get the number from configure.in
which is a version controlled file along side the sources.

Steve

Edward Comer wrote:

> The version number is manually set in the install build script in order to fetch the proper sources, but the program is untouched in any way. Therefore, whatever version number, etc, would be present in the Linux installation is also present in the Windows installation.
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Hi,

Good job Edward!
For WinXP I tried both, a new / fresh installation and an update-installation. So far I've checked it, GRAMPS works fine.
Helge

Edward Comer wrote:

...
windows version of "gramps_3.0.4-1_winxp2000.exe". Download it from:
http://drop.io/gramps4win Password = gramps
...

[Duncan Lithgow-2]

Works fine for me as well. Although only when I tried to install it
for a second time. I'd say we should ask the devs to add this to
sourceforge.

Nice work.

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[E.Genssmann]

I've downloaded and installed on my Vista-Box (Vista Home Premium, Serv.Pack 1 German) over an existing 3.0 GRAMPS. It installed very nice - but I strugle with 2 issues:
1.) opening media files (this issue was known already from previous version, still open, please see other thread)
2.) can't change properties in GRAMPS

When I try to open the properties-dialog, GRAMPS comes back with the error:

3620874: ERROR: gramps.py: line 160: Unhandled exception
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "C:\Program Files\gramps\ViewManager.py", line 715, in preferences_activate
    GrampsCfg.GrampsPreferences(self.uistate, self.state)
  File "C:\Program Files\gramps\GrampsCfg.py", lin

When I open a new, empty database and re-start GRAMPS, the dialog opens as expected. I don't know if that's new or also comes from previous installations.
When I updated to 3.0.4-1, I left all the other components (GTK, Python, etc) untouched - but I've double-checked that they are on the required versions ...

Any ideas?
Thanks for your help ...   Eckhard

Edward Comer wrote:

OK - I just implemented Steven George's suggested change and uploaded to drop.io. I have NOT tested it to see what effect the change will make with Vista, Win2K or XP. I can only test with XP. I don't own Vista, and never will.

windows version of "gramps_3.0.4-1_winxp2000.exe". Download it from:
http://drop.io/gramps4win Password = gramps

ONLY tested with Windows XP!

Please respond with your experience with this installer, Thank you.

Ed Comer


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[Edward Comer]

These would be issues with the Python GRAMPS code, itself, and not the Windows installation. If these problems aren't reported in Linux operation, then it may be a coding incompatibility issue with Vista. I don't experience any problems running on XP.

--- On Fri, 12/12/08, E.Genssmann <eckhard.genssmann@...> wrote:
>... I strugle with 2 issues:
> 1.) opening media files (this issue was known already from
> previous version,
> still open, please see other thread)
> 2.) can't change properties in GRAMPS
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[E.Genssmann]

Based on the replies I've seen, it seams to me that this is not a bug in GRAMPS but most likely something with my local installation and configuration. So I de-installed GRAMPS and everything that came with it (python, gtk, etc) and removed everything else related to GRAMPS that I found. After new installation (exact versions as recommended on wiki) I found he same behaviour...
Again, I de-installed and installed with sligthly newer version (e.g. python 2.5.3c1, gtk-2.12.9, pycairo 1.4.12-1, pygobject-2.14.1-1, pygtk-2.12.1-2  with the same result...
positive findings: GRAMPS works with that newer versions (on vista) but I still had the previous issues.
Some more findings though experimenting: the error while opnening the preference-dialog did NOT occur as long as I had the language package of GRAMPS NOT installed. With Lang set to GERMAN it worked with an empty database. As soon as I imported data ( gpkg-file generated with GRAMPS 3.0.4 on Ubuntu 8.10 ) I had the old problem again.

I found no configuration that had an impact on the issue with opening jpeg-media ...

Any ideas how to solve the issue? Any recommendations?





I've downloaded and installed on my Vista-Box (Vista Home Premium, Serv.Pack 1 German) over an existing 3.0 GRAMPS. It installed very nice - but I strugle with 2 issues:
1.) opening media files (this issue was known already from previous version, still open, please see other thread)
2.) can't change properties in GRAMPS

When I try to open the properties-dialog, GRAMPS comes back with the error:

3620874: ERROR: gramps.py: line 160: Unhandled exception
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "C:\Program Files\gramps\ViewManager.py", line 715, in preferences_activate
    GrampsCfg.GrampsPreferences(self.uistate, self.state)
  File "C:\Program Files\gramps\GrampsCfg.py", lin

When I open a new, empty database and re-start GRAMPS, the dialog opens as expected. I don't know if that's new or also comes from previous installations.
When I updated to 3.0.4-1, I left all the other components (GTK, Python, etc) untouched - but I've double-checked that they are on the required versions ...

Any ideas?
Thanks for your help ...   Eckhard

[dsblank]

I didn't see the earlier post, but in looking at the error message:

> When I try to open the properties-dialog, GRAMPS comes back with the
> error:
>
> 3620874: ERROR: gramps.py: line 160: Unhandled exception
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "C:\Program Files\gramps\ViewManager.py", line 715, in
> preferences_activate
>     GrampsCfg.GrampsPreferences(self.uistate, self.state)
>   File "C:\Program Files\gramps\GrampsCfg.py", lin

I see that this is cut off. The real error is at the bottom of the list,
but I can't tell if this is the top, middle, or almost the bottom. If you
could post the entire error message, that would be useful in seeing the
exact issue.

-Doug


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[E.Genssmann]

Doug,

sorry, I did not recognize that the message was cut.
Here the complete message:

Error Details:
===================

1575: WARNING: spell.py: line 58: Rechtschreibprüfung ist nicht
installiert9250: ERROR: gramps.py: line 160: Unhandled exception
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "C:\Program Files\gramps\ViewManager.py", line 715, in
preferences_activate
    GrampsCfg.GrampsPreferences(self.uistate, self.state)
  File "C:\Program Files\gramps\GrampsCfg.py", line 152, in __init__
    panel.append_page(self.add_formats_panel(),
  File "C:\Program Files\gramps\GrampsCfg.py", line 613, in
add_formats_panel
    self.fmt_model, active = self._build_name_format_model(active)
  File "C:\Program Files\gramps\GrampsCfg.py", line 338, in
_build_name_format_model
    row=[num, translation, fmt_str, _nd.display_name(self.examplename)])
  File "C:\Program Files\gramps\BasicUtils\_NameDisplay.py", line 560,
in display_name
    return self.name_formats[num][_F_FN](name)
  File "C:\Program Files\gramps\BasicUtils\_NameDisplay.py", line 126,
in <lambda>
    return lambda x: self.format_str(x,fmt_str)
  File "C:\Program Files\gramps\BasicUtils\_NameDisplay.py", line 417,
in format_str
    name.call,format_str)
  File "C:\Program Files\gramps\BasicUtils\_NameDisplay.py", line 457,
in _format_str_base
    func = self._gen_cooked_func(format_str)
  File "C:\Program Files\gramps\BasicUtils\_NameDisplay.py", line 330,
in _gen_cooked_func
    return self._make_fn(format_str, d, args)
  File "C:\Program Files\gramps\BasicUtils\_NameDisplay.py", line 346,
in _make_fn
    format_str = format_str.replace(ikeyword.title(),"%"+ code)
UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf8' codec can't decode bytes in position 3-5:
invalid data


System Information:
===================

Python version: 2.5.3c1 (r253c1:67742, Dec 13 2008, 17:13:27) [MSC
v.1310 32 bit (Intel)]
BSDDB version: 4.4.5.3
Gramps version: 3.0.4-1
LANG: de_UTF-8
OS: win32
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Douglas S. Blank schrieb:

> I didn't see the earlier post, but in looking at the error message:
>
>  
>> When I try to open the properties-dialog, GRAMPS comes back with the
>> error:
>>
>> 3620874: ERROR: gramps.py: line 160: Unhandled exception
>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>   File "C:\Program Files\gramps\ViewManager.py", line 715, in
>> preferences_activate
>>     GrampsCfg.GrampsPreferences(self.uistate, self.state)
>>   File "C:\Program Files\gramps\GrampsCfg.py", lin
>>    
>
> I see that this is cut off. The real error is at the bottom of the list,
> but I can't tell if this is the top, middle, or almost the bottom. If you
> could post the entire error message, that would be useful in seeing the
> exact issue.
>
> -Doug
>
>  

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Hi,

it looks a little bit similar to http://www.gramps-project.org/bugs/view.php?id=2416 ?

-helge

Hi Eckhard,

I told you before, that seems to me like http://www.gramps-project.org/bugs/view.php?id=2416.
Up today I know no fix for this problem. My ideas to the topic are placed in http://www.gramps-project.org/bugs/view.php?id=2438.

If you real fight against the same problem as me, you may try my work around to be able to work with GRAMPS (I assume too that you don't use the build-in archive function):
1. start GRAMPS with it's default language
    --> experiences in my cases: the problem didn't appear
2. disable the option 'automatically open last database' (Edit --> Preferences --> Database)
    This is because GRAMPS internally stores same settings (especially the user name format) into the next database if it was opened without closing GRAMPS before (may be I'm wrong in some cases, it's mostly a result of same trials)
3. Close GRAMPS, start it again with it's default language and open the database having the described problem
   --> Don't worry if the displayed names of persons seems to be wrong. It's - so far I know - the display only because of a mishandled user defined name format.
4. Export the complete database as GRAMPS XML database.
5. Close GRAMPS.
6. Do a copy of the exported file
7. Use an Editor able to handle UTF-8 (I use jedit; http:\\www.jedit.org), but for sure there are also other editors available.
8. search for the section   <name-formats> ...   </name-formats>
9. If found (it should be immediately behind the section <header> ... </header>) just delete the complete section. I tried to describe all related findings and ideas in item #2416 and #2438.
  --> If not found: you have an other problem than me and for the moment I don't know how to help you, sorry.
10. Open GRAMPS again (language doesn't matter) - but without to open the "old" database having the problem!!!
11. Generate a new family tree and import the modified database (see 9.)
That's hopefully all

But keep in mind, the problem I know (and I assume it's also your problem) may occur every time you play with user defined name formats and you switch between several databases. So, every day I change my data, I do an Gramps-xml-backup before and afterwards that's why and also to be sure to don't loose data.  

I hope this helps. Good luck
-Helge
 

[E.Genssmann]

Helge,

I executed exactly the steps as recommended - and it finally did solve
my problem as well ...
Your assumption seams to be true that the problem I had and yours are
somewhat the same. Hope that the developers can find the root cause in
order to fix the issue.
One additional observation: the XML-file contains all the
researcher-information - but these data are not imported...
Maybe that's on purpose - but it may be worth to be mentioned here, just
in case it helps to identify the root cause of the issue.
Do I need to add something to your bug-reports?

Many thanks for your help.

Eckhard


Helge@GRAMPS schrieb:

> Hi Eckhard,
>
> I told you before, that seems to me like
> http://www.gramps-project.org/bugs/view.php?id=2416
> http://www.gramps-project.org/bugs/view.php?id=2416 .
> Up today I know no fix for this problem. My ideas to the topic are placed in
> http://www.gramps-project.org/bugs/view.php?id=2438
> http://www.gramps-project.org/bugs/view.php?id=2438 .
>
> If you real fight against the same problem as me, you may try my work around
> to be able to work with GRAMPS (I assume too that you don't use the build-in
> archive function):
> 1. start GRAMPS with it's default language
>     --> experiences in my cases: the problem didn't appear
> 2. disable the option 'automatically open last database' (Edit -->
> Preferences --> Database)
>     This is because GRAMPS internally stores same settings (especially the
> user name format) into the next database if it was opened without closing
> GRAMPS before (may be I'm wrong in some cases, it's mostly a result of same
> trials)
> 3. Close GRAMPS, start it again with it's default language and open the
> database having the described problem
>    --> Don't worry if the displayed names of persons seems to be wrong. It's
> - so far I know - the display only because of a mishandled user defined name
> format.
> 4. Export the complete database as GRAMPS XML database.
> 5. Close GRAMPS.
> 6. Do a copy of the exported file
> 7. Use an Editor able to handle UTF-8 (I use jedit; http:\\www.jedit.org),
> but for sure there are also other editors available.
> 8. search for the section   <name-formats> ...   </name-formats>
> 9. If found (it should be immediately behind the section <header> ...
> </header>) just delete the complete section. I tried to describe all related
> findings and ideas in item #2416 and #2438.
>   --> If not found: you have an other problem than me and for the moment I
> don't know how to help you, sorry.
> 10. Open GRAMPS again (language doesn't matter) - but without to open the
> "old" database having the problem!!!
> 11. Generate a new family tree and import the modified database (see 9.)
> That's hopefully all :-D
>
> But keep in mind, the problem I know (and I assume it's also your problem)
> may occur every time you play with user defined name formats and you switch
> between several databases. So, every day I change my data, I do an
> Gramps-xml-backup before and afterwards that's why and also to be sure to
> don't loose data.  
>
> I hope this helps. Good luck
> -Helge
>  
>  

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