Gwenview for Konqueror in KDE4?

[Norman Carver]

Generally finding KDE4 in 2009.1 quite usable (in contrast to 2009.0),
but installing Gwenview no longer seems to add functionality to Konqueror.
Did some searching, but didn't come up with anything relevant.
Anyone know anything about this?  Kparts still function in KDE4?
Am I just missing something, or is this a Konqueror regression
in KDE4??
Thanks,
Norm

[Chitta Mandal]

On Fri, 2009-06-19 at 10:22 -0500, Norman Carver wrote:

Story of Mdv2009.0:

I think there are lots of bugs and dropped features.

Mouse middle button functionality (mainly for launching
applications appropriate to the file) has been dropped.
Now, I have to strain my hand more to launch applications.

I somehow, failed to bind xfig to fig files. Application
binding used to work like breeze on earlier releases.

Dolphin FM does not let me launch a terminal from the
"Tool" menu item. Sizes of displayed icons in the
Konqueror somehow became a step bigger. I have not been
able to alter the size of displayed icons.

-C

On Friday 19 June 2009 16:22:31 Norman Carver wrote:
> Generally finding KDE4 in 2009.1 quite usable (in contrast to 2009.0),
> but installing Gwenview no longer seems to add functionality to Konqueror.
> Did some searching, but didn't come up with anything relevant.
> Anyone know anything about this?  Kparts still function in KDE4?
> Am I just missing something, or is this a Konqueror regression
> in KDE4??

I don't recall Gwenview ever adding functionality to Konqueror.  What is it
you expected to see?

And have you installed kipi-plugins?  The provide quite a bit of the
functionality in Gwenview.

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On Friday 19 June 2009 18:21:40 Chitta Mandal wrote:

> On Fri, 2009-06-19 at 10:22 -0500, Norman Carver wrote:
>
> Story of Mdv2009.0:
>
> I think there are lots of bugs and dropped features.
>
> Mouse middle button functionality (mainly for launching
> applications appropriate to the file) has been dropped.
> Now, I have to strain my hand more to launch applications.
>

Not sure what you mean about this.  Care to explain more?

> I somehow, failed to bind xfig to fig files. Application
> binding used to work like breeze on earlier releases.
>
Don't know anything about that.

> Dolphin FM does not let me launch a terminal from the
> "Tool" menu item. Sizes of displayed icons in the
> Konqueror somehow became a step bigger. I have not been
> able to alter the size of displayed icons.
>
Try Ctrl + mouse scroll - either up or down.

Anne
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[Chitta Mandal]

On Fri, 2009-06-19 at 22:24 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:

> > Dolphin FM does not let me launch a terminal from the
> > "Tool" menu item. Sizes of displayed icons in the
> > Konqueror somehow became a step bigger. I have not been
> > able to alter the size of displayed icons.
> >
> Try Ctrl + mouse scroll - either up or down.

That worked. But when I relaunch the FM, the icons are back to
their old sizes. How can I save the setting?

I tried Settings -> Save View Profile "File Management".
But, that did not seem to help, as the icons were back to
their old sizes when the FM was relaunched.

I have a similar problem with "enable tool tips" -- unable to
save that setting either.

-C

[Chitta Mandal]

On Fri, 2009-06-19 at 22:24 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:

(Mdv 2009.0)

> > Mouse middle button functionality (mainly for launching
> > applications appropriate to the file) has been dropped.
> > Now, I have to strain my hand more to launch applications.
> >
> Not sure what you mean about this.  Care to explain more?

I have a system running an older version of Mdv (2008/2007)
where this feature works in konqueror as follows:

Say I have a .mp3 file. When I click on the icon of that file
with the middle mouse button, the application for playing mp3
files is launched and that file is played. Similarly, for other
types of files (xpdf/kpdf/... for pdf, etc).

In Mdv2009.0 I am unable to open with their appropriate application
using the middle mouse button. I used to find that very convenient.

Earlier, clicking on a directory using the middle button would open
a new konqueror window while the left mouse button would descend
into that directory within the current window.

Is there a way to revive the middle button functionality?

-C

On Saturday 20 June 2009 10:02:42 Chitta Mandal wrote:

> On Fri, 2009-06-19 at 22:24 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > > Dolphin FM does not let me launch a terminal from the
> > > "Tool" menu item. Sizes of displayed icons in the
> > > Konqueror somehow became a step bigger. I have not been
> > > able to alter the size of displayed icons.
> >
> > Try Ctrl + mouse scroll - either up or down.
>
> That worked. But when I relaunch the FM, the icons are back to
> their old sizes. How can I save the setting?
>

In dolphin you can set properties for individual directories as well as

different views, and I think that's what's happening to you.  Instead, use
View > Adjust View Properties and change settings for everything that you want
to be default.

> I tried Settings -> Save View Profile "File Management".
> But, that did not seem to help, as the icons were back to
> their old sizes when the FM was relaunched.
>
> I have a similar problem with "enable tool tips" -- unable to
> save that setting either.
>
Where are you setting this?

Anne
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On Saturday 20 June 2009 10:42:40 Chitta Mandal wrote:

> On Fri, 2009-06-19 at 22:24 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:
>
> (Mdv 2009.0)
>
> > > Mouse middle button functionality (mainly for launching
> > > applications appropriate to the file) has been dropped.
> > > Now, I have to strain my hand more to launch applications.
> >
> > Not sure what you mean about this.  Care to explain more?
>
> I have a system running an older version of Mdv (2008/2007)
> where this feature works in konqueror as follows:
>
> Say I have a .mp3 file. When I click on the icon of that file
> with the middle mouse button, the application for playing mp3
> files is launched and that file is played. Similarly, for other
> types of files (xpdf/kpdf/... for pdf, etc).
>
> In Mdv2009.0 I am unable to open with their appropriate application
> using the middle mouse button. I used to find that very convenient.
>
> Earlier, clicking on a directory using the middle button would open
> a new konqueror window while the left mouse button would descend
> into that directory within the current window.
>
> Is there a way to revive the middle button functionality?
>

Hmm - I use this a lot or file navigation, but I've not used it as a launcher

like that, so this is guesswork.  I would try going to systemsettings >
Advanced tab > File Associations.  First check that the file extension is
associated with the players that you prefer to use, then go to the Embedded
tab and experiment with settings there.  If you can't resolve it this way let
me know and I'll try to get an answer for you.

Anne
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[Norman Carver]

On Friday 19 June 2009 01:10:14 pm Anne Wilson wrote:
> I don't recall Gwenview ever adding functionality to Konqueror.  What is it
> you expected to see?
>
> And have you installed kipi-plugins?  The provide quite a bit of the
> functionality in Gwenview.

From the Gwenview RPM summary:
"Gwenview also provides image and directory KParts components
for use e.g. in Konqueror."

What you got in KDE3 is functionality for Konqueror so that
when you select/view image files an embedded Gwenview
viewer is used by default, which provides:
(1) Appropriate resizing;
(2) Next and previous buttons appear automatically in the toolbar
to allow you to move among images;
(3) A Colors entry appears under the View menu, which allows you
to adjust gamma, etc.

Looking a bit further now, I see that an embedded Gwenview viewer
is being used in Konqueror in KDE4, but it lacks features (2) and (3) above.
So unfortunately, Konqueror in KDE4 is pretty useless for dealing with
directories of images.  This appears to be a regression in the KParts
elements of Gwneview for KDE4.

The kipi-plugins packge is also installed, BTW, but it has nothing
to do with what I was talking about.
Norm

On Saturday 20 June 2009 16:56:13 Norman Carver wrote:

> On Friday 19 June 2009 01:10:14 pm Anne Wilson wrote:
> > I don't recall Gwenview ever adding functionality to Konqueror.  What is
> > it you expected to see?
> >
> > And have you installed kipi-plugins?  The provide quite a bit of the
> > functionality in Gwenview.
>
> From the Gwenview RPM summary:
> "Gwenview also provides image and directory KParts components
> for use e.g. in Konqueror."
>
> What you got in KDE3 is functionality for Konqueror so that
> when you select/view image files an embedded Gwenview
> viewer is used by default, which provides:
> (1) Appropriate resizing;
> (2) Next and previous buttons appear automatically in the toolbar
> to allow you to move among images;
> (3) A Colors entry appears under the View menu, which allows you
> to adjust gamma, etc.
>
> Looking a bit further now, I see that an embedded Gwenview viewer
> is being used in Konqueror in KDE4, but it lacks features (2) and (3)
> above. So unfortunately, Konqueror in KDE4 is pretty useless for dealing
> with directories of images.  This appears to be a regression in the KParts
> elements of Gwneview for KDE4.
>
> The kipi-plugins packge is also installed, BTW, but it has nothing
> to do with what I was talking about.

OK - check bugzilla and file a RFE if you can't find one already there.  O
course it may be that this is a feature still in preparation, but filing the
bug report makes sure that it won't get forgotten.

Anne
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[Chitta Mandal]

On Sat, 2009-06-20 at 13:18 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:

> > > > Dolphin FM does not let me launch a terminal from the
> > > > "Tool" menu item. Sizes of displayed icons in the
> > > > Konqueror somehow became a step bigger. I have not been
> > > > able to alter the size of displayed icons.
> > >
> > > Try Ctrl + mouse scroll - either up or down.
> >
> > That worked. But when I relaunch the FM, the icons are back to
> > their old sizes. How can I save the setting?
> >
> In dolphin you can set properties for individual directories as well as
> different views, and I think that's what's happening to you.

> Instead, use View > Adjust View Properties and change settings for
> everything that you want to be default.
Okay, but I am not able to "save" the size of displayed icons.
"Ctrl + mouse scroll" changes the displayed icon size in both
konqueror and dolphin, but the size is not saved in konqueror.

Failure to save settings in konqueror (on Mandriva 2009.0)
looks like a bug to me now.

Not being able to launch a terminal (konsole) in dolphin is a pain.
Someones brilliant idea to make things a bit more like windows,
I suppose.

> > I tried Settings -> Save View Profile "File Management".
> > But, that did not seem to help, as the icons were back to
> > their old sizes when the FM was relaunched.

> > I have a similar problem with "enable tool tips" -- unable to
> > save that setting either.
> >
> Where are you setting this?
In konqueror: Settings-->Configure Konqueror->File Management->Views.

-C

On Monday 22 June 2009 05:51:08 Chitta Mandal wrote:

> On Sat, 2009-06-20 at 13:18 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > > > > Dolphin FM does not let me launch a terminal from the
> > > > > "Tool" menu item. Sizes of displayed icons in the
> > > > > Konqueror somehow became a step bigger. I have not been
> > > > > able to alter the size of displayed icons.
> > > >
> > > > Try Ctrl + mouse scroll - either up or down.
> > >
> > > That worked. But when I relaunch the FM, the icons are back to
> > > their old sizes. How can I save the setting?
> >
> > In dolphin you can set properties for individual directories as well as
> > different views, and I think that's what's happening to you.
> >
> > Instead, use View > Adjust View Properties and change settings for
> > everything that you want to be default.
>
> Okay, but I am not able to "save" the size of displayed icons.
> "Ctrl + mouse scroll" changes the displayed icon size in both
> konqueror and dolphin, but the size is not saved in konqueror.
>
> Failure to save settings in konqueror (on Mandriva 2009.0)
> looks like a bug to me now.
>
> Not being able to launch a terminal (konsole) in dolphin is a pain.
> Someones brilliant idea to make things a bit more like windows,
> I suppose.
>
> > > I tried Settings -> Save View Profile "File Management".
> > > But, that did not seem to help, as the icons were back to
> > > their old sizes when the FM was relaunched.
> > >
> > > I have a similar problem with "enable tool tips" -- unable to
> > > save that setting either.
> >
> > Where are you setting this?
>
> In konqueror: Settings-->Configure Konqueror->File Management->Views.
>

Was it not your thread where I suggested that you try setting this up in

Dolphin, then tell us whether that affected your Konqueror settings?  I don't
recall seeing an answer to that.

Anne
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[Chitta Mandal]

On Mon, 2009-06-22 at 08:34 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:

> On Monday 22 June 2009 05:51:08 Chitta Mandal wrote:
> > On Sat, 2009-06-20 at 13:18 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > > > > > Dolphin FM does not let me launch a terminal from the
> > > > > > "Tool" menu item. Sizes of displayed icons in the
> > > > > > Konqueror somehow became a step bigger. I have not been
> > > > > > able to alter the size of displayed icons.
> > > > >
> > > > > Try Ctrl + mouse scroll - either up or down.
> > > >
> > > > That worked. But when I relaunch the FM, the icons are back to
> > > > their old sizes. How can I save the setting?
> > >
> > > In dolphin you can set properties for individual directories as well as
> > > different views, and I think that's what's happening to you.
> > >
> > > Instead, use View > Adjust View Properties and change settings for
> > > everything that you want to be default.
> >
> > Okay, but I am not able to "save" the size of displayed icons.
> > "Ctrl + mouse scroll" changes the displayed icon size in both
> > konqueror and dolphin, but the size is not saved in konqueror.
> >
> > Failure to save settings in konqueror (on Mandriva 2009.0)
> > looks like a bug to me now.
> >
> > Not being able to launch a terminal (konsole) in dolphin is a pain.
> > Someones brilliant idea to make things a bit more like windows,
> > I suppose.
> >
> > > > I tried Settings -> Save View Profile "File Management".
> > > > But, that did not seem to help, as the icons were back to
> > > > their old sizes when the FM was relaunched.
> > > >
> > > > I have a similar problem with "enable tool tips" -- unable to
> > > > save that setting either.
> > >
> > > Where are you setting this?
> >
> > In konqueror: Settings-->Configure Konqueror->File Management->Views.
> >
> Was it not your thread where I suggested that you try setting this up in
> Dolphin, then tell us whether that affected your Konqueror settings?  I don't
> recall seeing an answer to that.

Konqueror settings are not affected by altering the settings in dolphin
(on Mdv 2009.0). In dolphin changes in icon sizes are remembered without
explicit saving.

-C

On Monday 22 June 2009 05:51:08 Chitta Mandal wrote:

> On Sat, 2009-06-20 at 13:18 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > > > > Dolphin FM does not let me launch a terminal from the
> > > > > "Tool" menu item. Sizes of displayed icons in the
> > > > > Konqueror somehow became a step bigger. I have not been
> > > > > able to alter the size of displayed icons.
> > > >
> > > > Try Ctrl + mouse scroll - either up or down.
> > >
> > > That worked. But when I relaunch the FM, the icons are back to
> > > their old sizes. How can I save the setting?
> >
> > In dolphin you can set properties for individual directories as well as
> > different views, and I think that's what's happening to you.
> >
> > Instead, use View > Adjust View Properties and change settings for
> > everything that you want to be default.
>
> Okay, but I am not able to "save" the size of displayed icons.
> "Ctrl + mouse scroll" changes the displayed icon size in both
> konqueror and dolphin, but the size is not saved in konqueror.
>

I don't use konqueror as a file manager these days, so I don't know about

that.  Certainly Dolphin did continue to use my preferred icon size in 2009.0.

> Failure to save settings in konqueror (on Mandriva 2009.0)
> looks like a bug to me now.
>
You need first to find out whether others experience this.  Start a new thread
to ask that specific question.

> Not being able to launch a terminal (konsole) in dolphin is a pain.

View > Panels > Terminal - or F4 if you prefer.

> Someones brilliant idea to make things a bit more like windows,
> I suppose.
>
I won't bother to answer that.

Anne
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[James Kerr-2]

On Monday 22 June 2009, Chitta Mandal wrote:


> Failure to save settings in konqueror (on Mandriva 2009.0)
> looks like a bug to me now.

This may be a long-shot, but make sure that the current user is the
owner of all of the konq* files in /.kde4/share/config and of  the
contents of /.kde4/share/apps/konqueror and that all such files are
writeable.

> Not being able to launch a terminal (konsole) in dolphin is a pain.

In 2009.1, dolphin can open a terminal (View - Panels - Terminal). I
don't recall if this option was available in 2009.0

KDE4 is still under rapid development and each new release adds new
features (or restores features that used to be available in KDE3). An
update to KDE4.2.4 will soon be released for 2009.0. That update will  
include many new features as well as numerous bug fixes.

Jim