HTML 4.01 Specification seems to have a Table variable just not there
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HTML 4.01 Specification seems to have a Table variable just not there
by scsijon
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To whom it may concern: Firstly, I apologize if this is the wrong place to send it, but I can't seem to find anywhere else that makes sense. I believe I have found an omission in the HTML 4.01 specification. Using your current spec (HTML40.pdf) from the W3 website, I refer to page 113, the section is 11.2.1 titled The Table Element as a subpart of the Body statement I refer to the section Attributes under this In this you show (at the bottom of the page) an attribute of "width", however, at no place is there an equivalent "height" attribute. Width is defined as: This attribute specifies the desired width of the entire table and is intended for visual user agents. When ...... It is my proposal that there be a similar height attribute. This attribute specifies the desired height of the entire table and is intended for visual user agents. When ...... The reason for this is to provide a cutoff for any background attribute for the parent <body background="" attribute when displayed on a browser. I show an example for your perusal, hoping that it gives you my intention. it is not a complete file, just a relevant section with the added attribute. --------------------------- <body background="images/brown_bg.gif" bgcolor="#e1d2be" text="#666666" link="#0000ff" vlink="#800080" alink="#ff0000" leftmargin="0" topmargin="0"> <table border=0 width=800 height=780 cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0> .......... </table> </body> -------------------------- The brown_bg.gif is to be the security level "watermark" for the page and consists of brown pannels at the left and right sides of the page. currently the absence of a height attribute causes the image to be shown down the full "page" past the last <tr> <td> .... <img src="image" ...> </td> </tr> 's area. This is messy and makes the page look quite unprofessional. A simple explanation of the above statements that may be relevant to your group would be to have: brown panels equalling a first writeup - thoughts written down blue panels equalling a work in progress - were working on this, it WILL change and grow red panels equalling a internal rfc - has anyone in the group got a problem with anything in this green panels equalling a external rfc - has anyone in any group got a problem in this orange panels equalling submission for approval - this is what we think the final writeup of the specification will look like, can we have release authorization please yellow panels equalling a superceded specification - this specification has been updated, check the latest release as things may have changed and no (or totally white) panels equalling an authorized specification - this is the currently released and authorized specification. I hope this explains my meaning and await your response. Thank you for your time, Jon Wicks scsijon@... |
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Re: HTML 4.01 Specification seems to have a Table variable just not there
by Lachlan Hunt
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scsijon wrote: > Using your current spec (HTML40.pdf) from the W3 website, I refer to page 113, It's always better to simply provide a link to the HTML version. > In this you show (at the bottom of the page) an attribute of "width", > however, at no place is there an equivalent "height" attribute. That's not needed, it can be done with CSS. In general, you should avoid presentational elements and attributes in HTML in favour of CSS. > I show an example for your perusal, hoping that it gives you my > intention. it is not a complete file, just a relevant section with the > added attribute. > --------------------------- > <body background="images/brown_bg.gif" bgcolor="#e1d2be" text="#666666" You can remove every single one of the attributes in this sample markup, and use CSS instead: body { background: #e1d2be url(images/brown_bg.gif); color: #666; margin: 0; padding: 0; } > link="#0000ff" vlink="#800080" alink="#ff0000" leftmargin="0" topmargin="0"> :link { color: #00F; } :visited { color: #800080; } :link:active, :visited:active { color: #F00; } > <table border=0 width=800 height=780 cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0> table { border: 0; width: 800px; height: 780px; border-spacing: 0; } td { padding: 0; } -- Lachlan Hunt http://lachy.id.au/ |
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Re: HTML 4.01 Specification seems to have a Table variable just not there
by scsijon
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At 10:51 PM 12/01/2006, Lachlan Hunt wrote: >scsijon wrote: >>Using your current spec (HTML40.pdf) from the W3 website, I refer >>to page 113, > >It's always better to simply provide a link to the HTML version. > >>In this you show (at the bottom of the page) an attribute of >>"width", however, at no place is there an equivalent "height" attribute. > >That's not needed, it can be done with CSS. In general, you should >avoid presentational elements and attributes in HTML in favour of CSS. this means: 1- The HTML spec can't reside on it's own, as i was told it was suppose to be able to do, when I learn't it. 2- I now have to learn CSS, something I have no idea about other than as a name! 3- I am expected to rewrite code that IS complete (and works) except for a SINGLE missing attribute, that I expected to be there as it's alternate (width) IS in the specification. not pleased folks scsijon >>I show an example for your perusal, hoping that it gives you my >>intention. it is not a complete file, just a relevant section with >>the added attribute. >>--------------------------- >><body background="images/brown_bg.gif" bgcolor="#e1d2be" text="#666666" > >You can remove every single one of the attributes in this sample >markup, and use CSS instead: > >body { background: #e1d2be url(images/brown_bg.gif); color: #666; >margin: 0; padding: 0; } > >>link="#0000ff" vlink="#800080" alink="#ff0000" leftmargin="0" topmargin="0"> > >:link { color: #00F; } >:visited { color: #800080; } >:link:active, :visited:active { color: #F00; } > >><table border=0 width=800 height=780 cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0> > >table { border: 0; width: 800px; height: 780px; border-spacing: 0; } >td { padding: 0; } > >-- >Lachlan Hunt >http://lachy.id.au/ |
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