Hardy Heron -- Pulseaudio interferes with non-gnome audio

The new default pulseaudio in Hardy screws up every program that isn't gnome, delivering terrible sound.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/198453
Question -- what does WINE do with pulseaudio?
http://forum.skype.com/index.php?showtopic=112021