Harmonizing mingwrt / w32api with mingw-w64

[Kai Tietz-2]

Quoting Earnie Boyd <earnie@us...>

> Kai, I probably have in the past pored fuel to the flame of content.
> I appreciate your honesty in your lengthy recitation of how you view
> the history of MinGW-64 and thank you for it. I think it would
> benefit us to forget the past and look toward the future and allow our
> two ventures for MinGW to strive to become one. Let's put our
> feelings aside and work toward making GCC and MinGW the best it can be.
>
> Kind regards,
> Earnie

Earnie, thanks for adding my private e-mail to this ML. I agree deeply
that we have to look into future and should begin to forget about the
past.  I accept your apology and see it base of the beginning for
better relations between our ventures.
And indeed, it could lead to an merge of our two projects in some
future for profit of all of us. Just to give chance for letting wounds
help and annoyance cool down, I suggest here a successive
approximation of our projects.
The terms and conditions need further discussion and many things have
to be cleared by all of us.
I'll bring up this point for discussion to next mingw-w64's team
meeting. So we can prepare a road map and the important points we see
in co-operation and a possible merge in future. I would suggest that
you could also initiate such a discussion on mingw.org.
So after we finished with internal discussion, we both project could
start to discuss in more detail the working together.
Is this approach fine for you?

Regards,
Kai

PS: Sorry, that I have to post outside of the origin thread context.
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[Earnie]

Quoting Kai Tietz <ktietz70@...>:

> Quoting Earnie Boyd <earnie@us...>
>
>> Kai, I probably have in the past pored fuel to the flame of content.
>> I appreciate your honesty in your lengthy recitation of how you view
>> the history of MinGW-64 and thank you for it. I think it would
>> benefit us to forget the past and look toward the future and allow our
>> two ventures for MinGW to strive to become one. Let's put our
>> feelings aside and work toward making GCC and MinGW the best it can be.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Earnie
>
> Earnie, thanks for adding my private e-mail to this ML. I agree deeply
> that we have to look into future and should begin to forget about the
> past.  I accept your apology and see it base of the beginning for
> better relations between our ventures.
> And indeed, it could lead to an merge of our two projects in some
> future for profit of all of us. Just to give chance for letting wounds
> help and annoyance cool down, I suggest here a successive
> approximation of our projects.
> The terms and conditions need further discussion and many things have
> to be cleared by all of us.
> I'll bring up this point for discussion to next mingw-w64's team
> meeting. So we can prepare a road map and the important points we see
> in co-operation and a possible merge in future. I would suggest that
> you could also initiate such a discussion on mingw.org.
> So after we finished with internal discussion, we both project could
> start to discuss in more detail the working together.
> Is this approach fine for you?
>

Kai,

This sound fine with me.  I will allow others, especially Keith  
Marshall, make the arguments and where we have a discussion of  
disagreement I will mediate with NightStrike to reach a common ground  
and that will become the rule of cooperative work.  If NightStrike and  
I cannot reach common ground we will bring the discussion back to this  
list for vote.  I reach out to Keith Marshall to give his approval of  
this approach to our cooperative movement or propose something else.

Regards,
Earnie


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[Kai Tietz-2]

2009/7/22 Earnie Boyd <earnie@...>:

> Quoting Kai Tietz <ktietz70@...>:
>
>> Quoting Earnie Boyd <earnie@us...>
>>
>>> Kai, I probably have in the past pored fuel to the flame of content.
>>> I appreciate your honesty in your lengthy recitation of how you view
>>> the history of MinGW-64 and thank you for it. I think it would
>>> benefit us to forget the past and look toward the future and allow our
>>> two ventures for MinGW to strive to become one. Let's put our
>>> feelings aside and work toward making GCC and MinGW the best it can be.
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>> Earnie
>>
>> Earnie, thanks for adding my private e-mail to this ML. I agree deeply
>> that we have to look into future and should begin to forget about the
>> past.  I accept your apology and see it base of the beginning for
>> better relations between our ventures.
>> And indeed, it could lead to an merge of our two projects in some
>> future for profit of all of us. Just to give chance for letting wounds
>> help and annoyance cool down, I suggest here a successive
>> approximation of our projects.
>> The terms and conditions need further discussion and many things have
>> to be cleared by all of us.
>> I'll bring up this point for discussion to next mingw-w64's team
>> meeting. So we can prepare a road map and the important points we see
>> in co-operation and a possible merge in future. I would suggest that
>> you could also initiate such a discussion on mingw.org.
>> So after we finished with internal discussion, we both project could
>> start to discuss in more detail the working together.
>> Is this approach fine for you?
>>
>
> Kai,
>
> This sound fine with me.  I will allow others, especially Keith
> Marshall, make the arguments and where we have a discussion of
> disagreement I will mediate with NightStrike to reach a common ground
> and that will become the rule of cooperative work.  If NightStrike and
> I cannot reach common ground we will bring the discussion back to this
> list for vote.  I reach out to Keith Marshall to give his approval of
> this approach to our cooperative movement or propose something else.
>
> Regards,
> Earnie
>

Earnie,

I am fine by the suggestion that you and NightStrike are beginning to
find common ground. Sadly is NightStrike at the moment pretty busy at
work and can start with this in August.
It sounds to me - as more as I read the old threads - as I
misinterpreted some parts of those old conversation, but some of those
old threads were offending. Well, I couldn't tell at this time all
what was necessary to explain how this port was done, so it was
maybe.a failure to come up with that at that time.
I thought I expressed this already, but I think I put in the past some
fuel into the fire, too.

Regards,
Kai

PS: Keith: I am tired of those personal offends, and everybody of us
should pack himself at his own nose first, and should try to begin to
do something constructive.
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[keithmarshall]

On Friday 24 July 2009 19:11:28 Kai Tietz wrote:
> Keith: I am tired of those personal offends, and everybody of us
> should pack himself at his own nose first, and should try to begin
> to do something constructive.

Kai,

If you feel that I have been offensive, I am sorry; I was merely
stating fact as I saw it.  I have found your own, and more so
Nightstrike's repeated denial of verifiable fact to be particularly
offensive.

I am pleased that you have finally seen fit to apologise for your own
part in this matter, for I think, if you are honest you must admit
that you were the prime instigator of this entire sordid business.
However, as I said earlier, some of the blame must be borne by all
parties; I really do hope that we can now put it behind us.

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Keith.

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