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Help Content disabled after 1 use. (Issue #153793) Resolved ?

by bruehlicke :: Rate this Message:

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I see the issue 153793 is set to RESOLVED  see
http://www.netbeans.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=153793

In my RCP app (Nb 6.5 based) when the user selects the Help->Help
Contents it pops up as expected. So far so good ....

Now, when closing the Java Help the Help->Help Content menu is
DISABLED. Only way to get it back is to exit the app and restart.

I need some help to understand what I should do to make this enabled
all the time. In particular in view of this bug is set to resolved.

B-)

Re: Help Content disabled after 1 use. (Issue #153793) Resolved ?

by Florian Brunner :: Rate this Message:

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Please add a comment if you run the application in JNLP mode or
"normally". I think this information could help the NB team.

-Florian

bruehlicke schrieb:

> I see the issue 153793 is set to RESOLVED  see
> http://www.netbeans.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=153793
>
> In my RCP app (Nb 6.5 based) when the user selects the Help->Help
> Contents it pops up as expected. So far so good ....
>
> Now, when closing the Java Help the Help->Help Content menu is
> DISABLED. Only way to get it back is to exit the app and restart.
>
> I need some help to understand what I should do to make this enabled
> all the time. In particular in view of this bug is set to resolved.
>
> B-)
>
>  


Re: Help Content disabled after 1 use. (Issue #153793) Resolved ?

by bruehlicke :: Rate this Message:

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I got some help on this one and by using some jvm arguments to
increase the debugging it turns out that my app is looking for
JavaHelp topic ID "ide.welcome"  which I do not have and hence it
triggers the disabling of the Help after first use. (see bottom of
http://www.netbeans.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=153793) for details.

Question:  Any of you know how I can make it stop looking for the
"ide.welcome" JavaHelp topic ? Or better - why and where is is looking
for it ? I assume I must have turned it off when I was branding my
JavaHelp via http://blogs.sun.com/geertjan/entry/removing_%22ide_help%22_in_the

Thanx
B-)

On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 4:09 AM, Florian Brunner <fbrunnerlist@...> wrote:

> Please add a comment if you run the application in JNLP mode or "normally".
> I think this information could help the NB team.
>
> -Florian
>
> bruehlicke schrieb:
>>
>> I see the issue 153793 is set to RESOLVED  see
>> http://www.netbeans.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=153793
>>
>> In my RCP app (Nb 6.5 based) when the user selects the Help->Help
>> Contents it pops up as expected. So far so good ....
>>
>> Now, when closing the Java Help the Help->Help Content menu is
>> DISABLED. Only way to get it back is to exit the app and restart.
>>
>> I need some help to understand what I should do to make this enabled
>> all the time. In particular in view of this bug is set to resolved.
>>
>> B-)
>>
>>
>
>

Re: Help Content disabled after 1 use. (Issue #153793) Resolved ?

by bruehlicke :: Rate this Message:

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Any of you out there know how I could figure out why the "ide.welcome" Helpset is searched for ? (see bottom of  http://www.netbeans.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=153793) for details)

The reason for the grey'ing out after first use is that it is looking for the ide.welcome HelpSet and cannot find it.  I wonder why it is looking for it since I do not have it in my RCP app.

Thanx
B-)

On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 8:55 AM, bruehlicke <bruehlicke@...> wrote:
I got some help on this one and by using some jvm arguments to
increase the debugging it turns out that my app is looking for
JavaHelp topic ID "ide.welcome"  which I do not have and hence it
triggers the disabling of the Help after first use. (see bottom of
http://www.netbeans.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=153793) for details.

Question:  Any of you know how I can make it stop looking for the
"ide.welcome" JavaHelp topic ? Or better - why and where is is looking
for it ? I assume I must have turned it off when I was branding my
JavaHelp via http://blogs.sun.com/geertjan/entry/removing_%22ide_help%22_in_the

Thanx
B-)

On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 4:09 AM, Florian Brunner <fbrunnerlist@...> wrote:
> Please add a comment if you run the application in JNLP mode or "normally".
> I think this information could help the NB team.
>
> -Florian
>
> bruehlicke schrieb:
>>
>> I see the issue 153793 is set to RESOLVED  see
>> http://www.netbeans.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=153793
>>
>> In my RCP app (Nb 6.5 based) when the user selects the Help->Help
>> Contents it pops up as expected. So far so good ....
>>
>> Now, when closing the Java Help the Help->Help Content menu is
>> DISABLED. Only way to get it back is to exit the app and restart.
>>
>> I need some help to understand what I should do to make this enabled
>> all the time. In particular in view of this bug is set to resolved.
>>
>> B-)
>>
>>
>
>


Re: Help Content disabled after 1 use. (Issue #153793) Resolved ?

by bruehlicke :: Rate this Message:

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Still  fighting with this one.

After removing the "General Online Help" module in "ide10"  as
suggested in the issue
(http://www.netbeans.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=153793) it now WORKS !

But .... when launching my app I get a nasty Warning Error Dialog
message telling me "Warning - Could not install some modules.  IDE
Platform - module org.netbeans.modules.userguide/1 was needed and not
found"

... any of you know how I can stop it looking for this ? I will start
looking through the properties files to see if this one is listed
somewhere as a module dependency ...

Thanx
B-)

On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 11:20 PM, bruehlicke<bruehlicke@...> wrote:

> Any of you out there know how I could figure out why the "ide.welcome"
> Helpset is searched for ? (see bottom of
> http://www.netbeans.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=153793) for details)
>
> The reason for the grey'ing out after first use is that it is looking for
> the ide.welcome HelpSet and cannot find it.  I wonder why it is looking for
> it since I do not have it in my RCP app.
>
> Thanx
> B-)
>
> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 8:55 AM, bruehlicke <bruehlicke@...> wrote:
>>
>> I got some help on this one and by using some jvm arguments to
>> increase the debugging it turns out that my app is looking for
>> JavaHelp topic ID "ide.welcome"  which I do not have and hence it
>> triggers the disabling of the Help after first use. (see bottom of
>> http://www.netbeans.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=153793) for details.
>>
>> Question:  Any of you know how I can make it stop looking for the
>> "ide.welcome" JavaHelp topic ? Or better - why and where is is looking
>> for it ? I assume I must have turned it off when I was branding my
>> JavaHelp via
>> http://blogs.sun.com/geertjan/entry/removing_%22ide_help%22_in_the
>>
>> Thanx
>> B-)
>>
>> On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 4:09 AM, Florian Brunner <fbrunnerlist@...>
>> wrote:
>> > Please add a comment if you run the application in JNLP mode or
>> > "normally".
>> > I think this information could help the NB team.
>> >
>> > -Florian
>> >
>> > bruehlicke schrieb:
>> >>
>> >> I see the issue 153793 is set to RESOLVED  see
>> >> http://www.netbeans.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=153793
>> >>
>> >> In my RCP app (Nb 6.5 based) when the user selects the Help->Help
>> >> Contents it pops up as expected. So far so good ....
>> >>
>> >> Now, when closing the Java Help the Help->Help Content menu is
>> >> DISABLED. Only way to get it back is to exit the app and restart.
>> >>
>> >> I need some help to understand what I should do to make this enabled
>> >> all the time. In particular in view of this bug is set to resolved.
>> >>
>> >> B-)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>
>

Re: Help Content disabled after 1 use. (Issue #153793) Resolved ?

by Geertjan Wielenga :: Rate this Message:

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bruehlicke wrote:

> Still  fighting with this one.
>
> After removing the "General Online Help" module in "ide10"  as
> suggested in the issue
> (http://www.netbeans.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=153793) it now WORKS !
>
> But .... when launching my app I get a nasty Warning Error Dialog
> message telling me "Warning - Could not install some modules.  IDE
> Platform - module org.netbeans.modules.userguide/1 was needed and not
> found"
>  

org.netbeans.modules.userguide/1 = "General Online Help"

Gj

> ... any of you know how I can stop it looking for this ? I will start
> looking through the properties files to see if this one is listed
> somewhere as a module dependency ...
>
> Thanx
> B-)
>
> On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 11:20 PM, bruehlicke<bruehlicke@...> wrote:
>  
>> Any of you out there know how I could figure out why the "ide.welcome"
>> Helpset is searched for ? (see bottom of
>> http://www.netbeans.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=153793) for details)
>>
>> The reason for the grey'ing out after first use is that it is looking for
>> the ide.welcome HelpSet and cannot find it.  I wonder why it is looking for
>> it since I do not have it in my RCP app.
>>
>> Thanx
>> B-)
>>
>> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 8:55 AM, bruehlicke <bruehlicke@...> wrote:
>>    
>>> I got some help on this one and by using some jvm arguments to
>>> increase the debugging it turns out that my app is looking for
>>> JavaHelp topic ID "ide.welcome"  which I do not have and hence it
>>> triggers the disabling of the Help after first use. (see bottom of
>>> http://www.netbeans.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=153793) for details.
>>>
>>> Question:  Any of you know how I can make it stop looking for the
>>> "ide.welcome" JavaHelp topic ? Or better - why and where is is looking
>>> for it ? I assume I must have turned it off when I was branding my
>>> JavaHelp via
>>> http://blogs.sun.com/geertjan/entry/removing_%22ide_help%22_in_the
>>>
>>> Thanx
>>> B-)
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 4:09 AM, Florian Brunner <fbrunnerlist@...>
>>> wrote:
>>>      
>>>> Please add a comment if you run the application in JNLP mode or
>>>> "normally".
>>>> I think this information could help the NB team.
>>>>
>>>> -Florian
>>>>
>>>> bruehlicke schrieb:
>>>>        
>>>>> I see the issue 153793 is set to RESOLVED  see
>>>>> http://www.netbeans.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=153793
>>>>>
>>>>> In my RCP app (Nb 6.5 based) when the user selects the Help->Help
>>>>> Contents it pops up as expected. So far so good ....
>>>>>
>>>>> Now, when closing the Java Help the Help->Help Content menu is
>>>>> DISABLED. Only way to get it back is to exit the app and restart.
>>>>>
>>>>> I need some help to understand what I should do to make this enabled
>>>>> all the time. In particular in view of this bug is set to resolved.
>>>>>
>>>>> B-)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>        
>>    


Re: Help Content disabled after 1 use. (Issue #153793) Resolved ?

by bruehlicke :: Rate this Message:

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Thanx - I know. After removing the General Online Help the app still
asks for it. When removing the dependency from the list of libraries
to include it is given a warning that the module "IDE Platform" in
cluster "ide10" depends on the module "General Online Help".
Obviously I cannot remove the module "IDE Platform" - so I will have
to forcefully make the IDE Platform module not wanting the General
Online Help module. - Just can't find the config file where that
dependency is explicitly defined.

B-)


On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 8:32 AM, Geertjan
Wielenga<Geertjan.Wielenga@...> wrote:

> bruehlicke wrote:
>>
>> Still  fighting with this one.
>>
>> After removing the "General Online Help" module in "ide10"  as
>> suggested in the issue
>> (http://www.netbeans.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=153793) it now WORKS !
>>
>> But .... when launching my app I get a nasty Warning Error Dialog
>> message telling me "Warning - Could not install some modules.  IDE
>> Platform - module org.netbeans.modules.userguide/1 was needed and not
>> found"
>>
>
> org.netbeans.modules.userguide/1 = "General Online Help"
>
> Gj
>
>> ... any of you know how I can stop it looking for this ? I will start
>> looking through the properties files to see if this one is listed
>> somewhere as a module dependency ...
>>
>> Thanx
>> B-)
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 11:20 PM, bruehlicke<bruehlicke@...> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Any of you out there know how I could figure out why the "ide.welcome"
>>> Helpset is searched for ? (see bottom of
>>> http://www.netbeans.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=153793) for details)
>>>
>>> The reason for the grey'ing out after first use is that it is looking for
>>> the ide.welcome HelpSet and cannot find it.  I wonder why it is looking
>>> for
>>> it since I do not have it in my RCP app.
>>>
>>> Thanx
>>> B-)
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 8:55 AM, bruehlicke <bruehlicke@...> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I got some help on this one and by using some jvm arguments to
>>>> increase the debugging it turns out that my app is looking for
>>>> JavaHelp topic ID "ide.welcome"  which I do not have and hence it
>>>> triggers the disabling of the Help after first use. (see bottom of
>>>> http://www.netbeans.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=153793) for details.
>>>>
>>>> Question:  Any of you know how I can make it stop looking for the
>>>> "ide.welcome" JavaHelp topic ? Or better - why and where is is looking
>>>> for it ? I assume I must have turned it off when I was branding my
>>>> JavaHelp via
>>>> http://blogs.sun.com/geertjan/entry/removing_%22ide_help%22_in_the
>>>>
>>>> Thanx
>>>> B-)
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 4:09 AM, Florian Brunner <fbrunnerlist@...>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Please add a comment if you run the application in JNLP mode or
>>>>> "normally".
>>>>> I think this information could help the NB team.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Florian
>>>>>
>>>>> bruehlicke schrieb:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I see the issue 153793 is set to RESOLVED  see
>>>>>> http://www.netbeans.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=153793
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In my RCP app (Nb 6.5 based) when the user selects the Help->Help
>>>>>> Contents it pops up as expected. So far so good ....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now, when closing the Java Help the Help->Help Content menu is
>>>>>> DISABLED. Only way to get it back is to exit the app and restart.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I need some help to understand what I should do to make this enabled
>>>>>> all the time. In particular in view of this bug is set to resolved.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> B-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>

Re: Help Content disabled after 1 use. (Issue #153793) Resolved ?

by Geertjan Wielenga :: Rate this Message:

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bruehlicke wrote:
> Thanx - I know. After removing the General Online Help the app still
> asks for it. When removing the dependency from the list of libraries
> to include it is given a warning that the module "IDE Platform" in
> cluster "ide10" depends on the module "General Online Help".
> Obviously I cannot remove the module "IDE Platform" - so I will have
> to forcefully make the IDE Platform module not wanting the General
> Online Help module. - Just can't find the config file where that
> dependency is explicitly defined.
>  

I've read the issue, I've read this mail thread, but I still don't
understand what you're trying to achieve.

If I create a new NetBeans Platform application, add a new module, and
use the JavaHelp wizard, I don't have any problems -- I can open and
reopen the JavaHelp without any problem.

Gj


> B-)
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 8:32 AM, Geertjan
> Wielenga<Geertjan.Wielenga@...> wrote:
>  
>> bruehlicke wrote:
>>    
>>> Still  fighting with this one.
>>>
>>> After removing the "General Online Help" module in "ide10"  as
>>> suggested in the issue
>>> (http://www.netbeans.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=153793) it now WORKS !
>>>
>>> But .... when launching my app I get a nasty Warning Error Dialog
>>> message telling me "Warning - Could not install some modules.  IDE
>>> Platform - module org.netbeans.modules.userguide/1 was needed and not
>>> found"
>>>
>>>      
>> org.netbeans.modules.userguide/1 = "General Online Help"
>>
>> Gj
>>
>>    
>>> ... any of you know how I can stop it looking for this ? I will start
>>> looking through the properties files to see if this one is listed
>>> somewhere as a module dependency ...
>>>
>>> Thanx
>>> B-)
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 11:20 PM, bruehlicke<bruehlicke@...> wrote:
>>>
>>>      
>>>> Any of you out there know how I could figure out why the "ide.welcome"
>>>> Helpset is searched for ? (see bottom of
>>>> http://www.netbeans.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=153793) for details)
>>>>
>>>> The reason for the grey'ing out after first use is that it is looking for
>>>> the ide.welcome HelpSet and cannot find it.  I wonder why it is looking
>>>> for
>>>> it since I do not have it in my RCP app.
>>>>
>>>> Thanx
>>>> B-)
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 8:55 AM, bruehlicke <bruehlicke@...> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>> I got some help on this one and by using some jvm arguments to
>>>>> increase the debugging it turns out that my app is looking for
>>>>> JavaHelp topic ID "ide.welcome"  which I do not have and hence it
>>>>> triggers the disabling of the Help after first use. (see bottom of
>>>>> http://www.netbeans.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=153793) for details.
>>>>>
>>>>> Question:  Any of you know how I can make it stop looking for the
>>>>> "ide.welcome" JavaHelp topic ? Or better - why and where is is looking
>>>>> for it ? I assume I must have turned it off when I was branding my
>>>>> JavaHelp via
>>>>> http://blogs.sun.com/geertjan/entry/removing_%22ide_help%22_in_the
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanx
>>>>> B-)
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 4:09 AM, Florian Brunner <fbrunnerlist@...>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>> Please add a comment if you run the application in JNLP mode or
>>>>>> "normally".
>>>>>> I think this information could help the NB team.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Florian
>>>>>>
>>>>>> bruehlicke schrieb:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>> I see the issue 153793 is set to RESOLVED  see
>>>>>>> http://www.netbeans.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=153793
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In my RCP app (Nb 6.5 based) when the user selects the Help->Help
>>>>>>> Contents it pops up as expected. So far so good ....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now, when closing the Java Help the Help->Help Content menu is
>>>>>>> DISABLED. Only way to get it back is to exit the app and restart.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I need some help to understand what I should do to make this enabled
>>>>>>> all the time. In particular in view of this bug is set to resolved.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> B-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>            
>>>>        
>>    


Parent Message unknown Re: Help Content disabled after 1 use. (Issue #153793) Resolved ?

by bruehlicke :: Rate this Message:

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JUBIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII   - I definitely owe you some beers now !!!  WOW !

Adding
    <mapID target="ide.welcome" url="vinlandproject-introduction.html"/>

to my initial map file did the TRICK !!!   THANKS A LOT !  I had this
for over 1 year now and could simply not understand what was going on.

Problem solved.

Phantastic
B-)

On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Geertjan
Wielenga<Geertjan.Wielenga@...> wrote:
> Related blog entry:
> http://blogs.sun.com/geertjan/entry/how_to_become_helpless_in
>
> -- Gj
>

Re: Help Content disabled after 1 use. (Issue #153793) Resolved ?

by Geertjan Wielenga :: Rate this Message:

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New FAQ entry: http://wiki.netbeans.org/DevFaqIdeWelcome

-- Gj


bruehlicke wrote:

> JUBIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII   - I definitely owe you some beers now !!!  WOW !
>
> Adding
>     <mapID target="ide.welcome" url="vinlandproject-introduction.html"/>
>
> to my initial map file did the TRICK !!!   THANKS A LOT !  I had this
> for over 1 year now and could simply not understand what was going on.
>
> Problem solved.
>
> Phantastic
> B-)
>
> On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Geertjan
> Wielenga<Geertjan.Wielenga@...> wrote:
>  
>> Related blog entry:
>> http://blogs.sun.com/geertjan/entry/how_to_become_helpless_in
>>
>> -- Gj
>>
>>