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by Brenda K. Sparks :: Rate this Message:

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 I am doing both my husbands and my own families and I have a database of
names totaling: 1800+individuals and 500+ families.  I would like to split it
so my husbands family tree is separated from mine w/o having to type it all
again.  I have no clue as to how to do this. Any help would be greatly
appreciated. TY

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Re: Help please!!

by Gerald Britton-2 :: Rate this Message:

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You will need to filter things one way or the other.  e.g.
1. set up a filter for your husband and his ancestors;
2.  export that to a gramps xml database;
3. create a new database and import the results of step 2 into it.

In practice it's usually not that simple, depending on how many family
lines you have.  The approach above would not include your husbands
cousins, for example, since they are not in his ancestral tree.
You'll need to play around with filters until you get what you want.

On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 12:50 PM, Brenda K. Sparks
<bksparks@...> wrote:

>  I am doing both my husbands and my own families and I have a database of
> names totaling: 1800+individuals and 500+ families.  I would like to split it
> so my husbands family tree is separated from mine w/o having to type it all
> again.  I have no clue as to how to do this. Any help would be greatly
> appreciated. TY
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Re: Help please!!

by Cedric Scott :: Rate this Message:

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Brenda,

Like Gerald said you can do it with filters but you have to adapt them to your
own needs. I've done this a few times now and the set of filters I use is.

Filter (1) Spouse
Filter (2) Relatives of filter (1)
Filter (3) Spouses of filter (2)
Filter (4) Parents and siblings of (3)
Filter (5) All people matching Filters (1), (2), (3) or (4)

When you do the export there is an option to not export unreferenced notes;
you'll almost certainly need to check that.

When you've worked out how to do it you can then offer a service splitting
family trees for friends who  use FTM or TMG - neither of which can do this.

Cedric

On Tuesday 27 October 2009 16:58:40 Gerald Britton wrote:

> You will need to filter things one way or the other.  e.g.
> 1. set up a filter for your husband and his ancestors;
> 2.  export that to a gramps xml database;
> 3. create a new database and import the results of step 2 into it.
>
> In practice it's usually not that simple, depending on how many family
> lines you have.  The approach above would not include your husbands
> cousins, for example, since they are not in his ancestral tree.
> You'll need to play around with filters until you get what you want.
>
> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 12:50 PM, Brenda K. Sparks
>
> <bksparks@...> wrote:
> >  I am doing both my husbands and my own families and I have a database of
> > names totaling: 1800+individuals and 500+ families.  I would like to
> > split it so my husbands family tree is separated from mine w/o having to
> > type it all again.  I have no clue as to how to do this. Any help would
> > be greatly appreciated. TY
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Re: Help please!!

by Benny Malengier :: Rate this Message:

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2009/10/27 Brenda K. Sparks <bksparks@...>:
>  I am doing both my husbands and my own families and I have a database of
> names totaling: 1800+individuals and 500+ families.  I would like to split it
> so my husbands family tree is separated from mine w/o having to type it all
> again.  I have no clue as to how to do this. Any help would be greatly
> appreciated. TY

As mentioned on the user list today and yesterday, gramps can filter
out results on export with the help of filters.
Note however that GRAMPS at the moment does _not_ support import and
merge, so if you split, merging it again will not be simple (if only a
couple of people overlap then no problem to merge and clean up
afterward though)

Do keep frequent backups as .gramps xml files, in case you export with
a filter and discover later that you filtered too much people out.

Benny

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Re: Help please!!

by Peter Hewett-2 :: Rate this Message:

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On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 05:50:51 Brenda K. Sparks wrote:
>  I am doing both my husbands and my own families and I have a database of
> names totaling: 1800+individuals and 500+ families.  I would like to split
> it so my husbands family tree is separated from mine w/o having to type it
> all again.  I have no clue as to how to do this. Any help would be greatly
> appreciated. TY

Hi Brenda
as others have explained, you can split your database.

However, I would recommend you think about why you want to do this.  I run one
database for all my research, covering both my wife and my ancestors (about
3000 people).  This means it is easy to make ancestor or pedigree charts for
my children, which you can't do with split databases, unless you duplicate
some data.  Also, we discovered that a great uncle of mine married a fourth
cousin of my wife, which might not have been so easily found if they were in
different databases.  Similarly, we have found some other distant but
interesting links.

By all means, run separate databases if you wish.  I'm just pointing out that
there are some advantages in running a single database.  As Benny has pointed
out, merging separate databases is not easy.

best regards

Peter


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Re: Help please!!

by Brenda K. Sparks :: Rate this Message:

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On Tuesday 27 October 2009, Peter Hewett wrote:

> On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 05:50:51 Brenda K. Sparks wrote:
> >  I am doing both my husbands and my own families and I have a database of
> > names totaling: 1800+individuals and 500+ families.  I would like to
> > split it so my husbands family tree is separated from mine w/o having to
> > type it all again.  I have no clue as to how to do this. Any help would
> > be greatly appreciated. TY
>
> Hi Brenda
> as others have explained, you can split your database.
>
> However, I would recommend you think about why you want to do this.  I run
> one database for all my research, covering both my wife and my ancestors
> (about 3000 people).  This means it is easy to make ancestor or pedigree
> charts for my children, which you can't do with split databases, unless you
> duplicate some data.  Also, we discovered that a great uncle of mine
> married a fourth cousin of my wife, which might not have been so easily
> found if they were in different databases.  Similarly, we have found some
> other distant but interesting links.
>
> By all means, run separate databases if you wish.  I'm just pointing out
> that there are some advantages in running a single database.  As Benny has
> pointed out, merging separate databases is not easy.
>
> best regards
>
> Peter
>
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I need to split the database so my husband can joint the SAR, he has a direct
ancestor who was a wounded in the Battle of Oriskany. The SAR doesn't need my
family tree, (YET).

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Re: Help please!!

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On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Brenda K. Sparks <bksparks@...> wrote:

> On Tuesday 27 October 2009, Peter Hewett wrote:
>> On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 05:50:51 Brenda K. Sparks wrote:
>> >  I am doing both my husbands and my own families and I have a database of
>> > names totaling: 1800+individuals and 500+ families.  I would like to
>> > split it so my husbands family tree is separated from mine w/o having to
>> > type it all again.  I have no clue as to how to do this. Any help would
>> > be greatly appreciated. TY
>>
>> Hi Brenda
>> as others have explained, you can split your database.
>>
>> However, I would recommend you think about why you want to do this.  I run
>> one database for all my research, covering both my wife and my ancestors
>> (about 3000 people).  This means it is easy to make ancestor or pedigree
>> charts for my children, which you can't do with split databases, unless you
>> duplicate some data.  Also, we discovered that a great uncle of mine
>> married a fourth cousin of my wife, which might not have been so easily
>> found if they were in different databases.  Similarly, we have found some
>> other distant but interesting links.
>>
>> By all means, run separate databases if you wish.  I'm just pointing out
>> that there are some advantages in running a single database.  As Benny has
>> pointed out, merging separate databases is not easy.
>>
>> best regards
>>
>> Peter
>>
>>
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> I need to split the database so my husband can joint the SAR, he has a direct
> ancestor who was a wounded in the Battle of Oriskany. The SAR doesn't need my
> family tree, (YET).

Sounds like you just to create a filter of the appropriate people, and
generate a report, or send them a GEDCOM. You don't need to create a
different database to do that.

-Doug

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Re: Help please!!

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2009/10/27 Brenda K. Sparks <bksparks@...>:
> I need to split the database so my husband can joint the SAR, he has a direct
> ancestor who was a wounded in the Battle of Oriskany. The SAR doesn't need my
> family tree, (YET).

What is SAR? 'Sons of the revolution'?

Duncan

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Re: Help please!!

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On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 10:00:00PM +0100, Duncan Lithgow wrote:
> What is SAR? 'Sons of the revolution'?

Sons of the American Revolution. See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sons_of_the_American_Revolution

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Re: Help please!!

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On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Brenda K. Sparks <bksparks@...> wrote:
I need to split the database so my husband can joint the SAR, he has a direct
ancestor who was a wounded in the Battle of Oriskany. The SAR doesn't need my
family tree, (YET).
 
Select your husband in GRAMPS.
File -> Export
Select GEDCOM as the output format
Select "Ancestors of your husband" as the Person filter
Finish exporting the GED.

The resulting export will only contain your husbands ancestors and you can send that to SAR so that they can review it.  Your family information won't be included.  Does this do what you need?

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