HercGui createprocess error on perfectly well functioning Hercules

[kerravon86]

--- In hercules-390@..., "somitcw" <somitcw@...> wrote:
>
> > So, you have so far been unable to reproduce the
> >problem of the w32select going into a loop?
>
>    I don't see any w32select message.  Do I need
> some type of tracing turned on to see errors?

No.

> > Did you try closing all those terminals and then
> >starting up a new batch?
>
>    No, I just kept starting a new batch.
> My system has 35 CRTs defined so there is it takes
> awhile to run out.

Since the method I used to reproduce the problem
involved closing terminals and seeing the loop on
one of the closes, it may be a requirement to
reproduce.

>    I don't have CygWin installed so use the wc3270
> Windows version of c3270.

Ok. It probably doesn't matter which one you use,
since Gerhard isn't using Cygwin either.

>    I do have one additional symptom.  With QWS3270Secure
> having one hung terminal then wc3270 having it's first
> terminal hung and others with the "target machine
> actively refused it" error message, quit froze Hercules.
> MVS was already down with the normal quiesce wait state.
> When I closed the first wc3270 ( the hung wc3270 ),
> then Hercules ended properly from the earlier quit.

Sounds like there's several issues to go through
then!

BFN.  Paul.

[Steve And Grace Bovy]

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"kerravon86" <kerravon86@...> wrote:
> --- In hercules-390@...
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>"somitcw" <somitcw@> wrote:
>> Hercules now supports opening and closing
>>TN3270 sessions as needed. Do you need startterm?
> I do if I want to more reliably reproduce the
>obvious Hercules bug where it goes into a loop.
> Apart from that, I normally start 0 terminals, and
>when I don't start 0, I start 1, using a modified
>startterm that only starts 1.
> So. Can you reproduce the Hercules bug that randomly
>hits Gerhard? Maybe if you can it will help resolve
>the randomly-hitting bug that is giving him grief.
> BFN. Paul.

I created breakterm.bat for wc3270 and QWS3270Secure.
wc3270 started all seven terminals but the third one
was hung. I could not unhang with reset,attn,pa1,clear,
or other keys. QWS3270Secure also started all seven
terminals but the second one was hung. Could not unhang.

startterm hanging terminals is not new. That is
why sleep was added by anyone that tried to use it

>> Yes, actually using pause seems to work also
>> The pause is ignored, but does seem to cause a break in processing
>> which is usefull enough to have the desired affect

Here is my rc file >>>

devlist
sh cmd /c startterm.bat
panrate 1000
ipl 148

Here is my startterm.bat  >>

@Echo off
@call %~dp0setpath

start "Console Log" /i telnet RECROOM 3270
@pause
start wc3270 -title Console RECROOM 3270
@pause
@pause
@pause
start wc3270 RECROOM 3270
start wc3270 RECROOM 3270
 

[Gerhard Postpischil]

somitcw wrote:
>    If 192.168.0.20 is the PC that Hercules is
> running on and matches what HERCRDR is pointing
> to, it should work?  A DOS Prompt command
> netstat -a -n
> may show if 192.168.0.20:3505 is listening?

netstat shows LISTENING at the correct address and port.

>    No HERCRDR command?  Is that because 000C
> was not a socket reader at the time?

I've never used HercRDR, but have the definition setup for
socketdev so I can define 000C to Hercules, without having it
actually read a file at startup (and eventually send files from
Tritus/SPF editor).

It gets curioser - I tried HERCRDR NOTEBOOK:3505 a:\solitare.txt
- and that worked correctly. Flush with success, I defined a
batch file named SUBMIT, and that failed with an unspecified
error. Turns out that the first request kept the connection
open, and there is nothing in the documentation stating what to
do about that (conf has EOF, so it should have released?). Just
to see what would happen I tried to reinit, and Hercules crashed!

Gerhard Postpischil
Bradford, VT

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kerravon86 wrote:

> --- In hercules-390@..., "Fish" <fish@...> wrote:
> >
> > > When I try to use the reader on 00C (ASCII EOF options) I get a
> > > Hercules crash. I uploaded Hercules.dmp as dump00C.zip to the
> > > file directory - please notify when it's safe to delete.
> >
> > You can delete it.
> >
> > It's unfortunately completely worthless without the associated
> > debugging symbols to go along with it.  :(
>
> Can't that be recreated from the source code
> from SVN?

If I had the same version of Visual Studio that Ivan used to build
the snapshots with (i.e. the same compiler and linker, etc) AND the
same version of PSDK headers AND used the same build options, etc,
etc, etc ... then *MAYBE* it might work, but the general rule is and
always has been that the system doing the building of the binaries is
the one that needs to generate the .pdb files.

If a different system is used there's too great a chance the .pdb
information won't match up with the actual binaries, thereby
rendering highly dubious any conclusions that might be drawn from
their use in any later debugging session.

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[somitcw-2]

--- In hercules-390@...,
 Gerhard Postpischil <gerhard@...> wrote:
> somitcw wrote:
>> I not involved in fixing it but am curious.
>>More details would help recreating the problem.
>>How was the reader defined.  Hercules control
>>file or devinit?  What were the parameters.
>>What were the HERCRDR parameters?  Was it:
> The config file has 000C NOTEBOOK:3505 sockdev
>ascii trunc eof

   You mean with a device type like:
000C 3505 NOTEBOOK:3505 sockdev ascii trunc eof

> The command issued by HercGUI was
>devinit 000C A:solitare.txt ASCII EOF
> NOTEBOOK on a ping shows as 192.168.0.20

   I set name NOTEBOOK to 192.168.1.100 for
my PC's IP address

> FWIW, the machine has a wireless PCMCIA card
>that's disabled.  Only the ethernet port is enabled.

   Is the Ethernet port enabled and firewalled?
For XP, the firewall shouldn't matter unless you
are submitting JCL from one PC to another.

>Running Win XP w/SP3 and all current fixes.

   I currently use Vista Home Premium with all
Microsoft Updates applied.  Including Custom.

> Gerhard Postpischil
> Bradford, VT

   I downloaded the most current Hercules snapshot
( 2009-07-11 ) and tried many guesses about the
order but am not able to reproduce the problem.

   With or without RDR1 started, I enter and get:

devinit 000c jcl/dummy ascii eof
HHCSD007I Device 000C unbound from socket NOTEBOOK:3505
HHCSD022I Socketdevice listener thread terminated
HHCPN098I Device 0:000C initialized

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regli wrote way back on June 25, 2009:

> I have a perfectly well functioning Hercules environment
> in command prompt mode.  I now wanted to add Fish's GUI
> (the 64 bit version).
>
> However, as soon as I try to invoke it, I get
>
> ------------------- cut ---------------------
> x:/Hercules/Prometheus.exe -fX:/Hercules/mvs/mvs.cnf -d =l dyngui
>
> failed with rc=2 (0x00000002) The system cannot find the file specified.
> ------------------- cut ---------------------
>
> I don't know why it tries to invoke Prometheus instead of
> Hercules.exe.  I tried to look if a 64 bit version was called
> Prometheus but was unable to confirm.
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.

http://www.softdevlabs.com/Hercules/hercgui-faq.html

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