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How to install helper applications

by Tilo Baumann :: Rate this Message:

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I use Galeon 1.3.20 on Debian Sarge. My window manager ist fvwm2. (I
know of the newer versions of galeon.)

I used to use Acroread for viewing pdf files when browsing, but want to
change to xpdf.

My steps:

* uninstall Acroread as plugin.
* install xpdf
* searching for installation of xpdf as default helper application
  whenever pdf is to be displayed within/out of the browser.

So far when linking to a pdf file galeon offers an alert of two
helper application to choose of, one of which is xpdf (the other acroread).

I want to eliminate this step: when linking to a pdf file galeon should
start xpdf without asking me.

Installation of such defaults used to be an option in the menu called
'helper application' or, perhaps, 'mime types'.  How is it done now?

The above question is not restricted to xpdf but concerns every helper
application.

Additional question: is xpdf installable as a plugin?


I know of:

        gconf-editor
        about:config
        about:plugins

That does not seem to be enough.

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Re: How to install helper applications

by Bugzilla from michael.mauch@gmx.de :: Rate this Message:

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Tilo Baumann wrote:

> I use Galeon 1.3.20 on Debian Sarge. My window manager ist fvwm2. (I
> know of the newer versions of galeon.)
>
> I used to use Acroread for viewing pdf files when browsing, but want to
> change to xpdf.
 

> So far when linking to a pdf file galeon offers an alert of two
> helper application to choose of, one of which is xpdf (the other acroread).
>
> I want to eliminate this step: when linking to a pdf file galeon should
> start xpdf without asking me.
>
> Installation of such defaults used to be an option in the menu called
> 'helper application' or, perhaps, 'mime types'.  How is it done now?
>
> The above question is not restricted to xpdf but concerns every helper
> application.

Perhaps it works if you start "nautilus --no-desktop", find a .pdf file,
right-click on it -> Properties -> Open With. I think that's the way
it's supposed to work (somebody please correct me if I'm wrong).

If that doesn't help, you could remove the offending .desktop file and
run update-desktop-database (perhaps as root).

A web search for 'galeon update-desktop-database' also finds e.g.
<http://www.linuxforen.de/forums/showthread.php?t=216790>.

<http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/desktop-file-utils> also could be
useful.

> Additional question: is xpdf installable as a plugin?

I don't think so.

Regards...
                Michael

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Parent Message unknown Re: How to install helper applications

by Tilo Baumann :: Rate this Message:

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Am Fri, Jun 06, 2008 at 10:51:27AM +0200 schrieb Tilo Baumann:

> My steps:
>
> * uninstall Acroread as plugin.
> * install xpdf
> * searching for installation of xpdf as default helper application
>   whenever pdf is to be displayed within/out of the browser.
>
> So far when linking to a pdf file galeon offers an alert of two
> helper application to choose of, one of which is xpdf (the other acroread).

I meant a dialog (instead of an alert)

While waiting on your responses I did the following:

-- # update-desktop-database
-- removed 'AdobeReader.desktop' in /usr/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache
   in the line with application/pdf leaving there just 'xpdf.desktop'.

That eliminates the need to select between those two viewers, and I may
press 'open' at once.

I would like to have xpdf started at once, though.

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Re: How to install helper applications

by Tilo Baumann :: Rate this Message:

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On Fri, Jun 06, 2008 at 05:44:02PM +0200 Michael Mauch wrote:

> Tilo Baumann wrote:

> > So far when linking to a pdf file galeon offers an alert of two
> > helper application to choose of, one of which is xpdf (the other acroread).
> >
> > I want to eliminate this step: when linking to a pdf file galeon should
> > start xpdf without asking me.


> > Installation of such defaults used to be an option in the menu called
> > 'helper application' or, perhaps, 'mime types'.  How is it done now?

I checked it up in an old mozilla, and find it working with just a click
on the link.


> Perhaps it works if you start "nautilus --no-desktop", find a .pdf file,
> right-click on it -> Properties -> Open With. I think that's the way
> it's supposed to work (somebody please correct me if I'm wrong).

liedena:~# apt-get install nautilus
The following extra packages will be installed:
  capplets capplets-data desktop-base docbook-xml gnome-desktop-data
gnome-icon-theme gnome-session
  hicolor-icon-theme libgstreamer-plugins0.8-0 libgstreamer0.8-0
libmetacity0 libscrollkeeper0
  libxklavier8 libxslt1.1 nautilus-data scrollkeeper sgml-base sgml-data xml-core

Need to get 14,3MB of archives.
After unpacking 48,8MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] n

I said 'no', today, but  will think it over as it is no great fuss to
delete those packages if I don't them anymore.


> If that doesn't help, you could remove the offending .desktop file and
> run update-desktop-database (perhaps as root).

That is what I did.  More exactly: I didn't remove AdobeReader.desktop
but edited mimeinfo.cache.



> A web search for 'galeon update-desktop-database' also finds e.g.
> <http://www.linuxforen.de/forums/showthread.php?t=216790>.

ok, that is the same suggestion.  However, copying mimeinfo.cache into
~/local/share/applications (as suggested) did not work.  I further rely
on it located in /usr/share/applications/.


> <http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/desktop-file-utils> also could be
> useful.

In respect to that page I am a bit helpless. Can you be more specific?


Thanks for your answer, Michael!


Tilo



PS: If you/somebody can give me advice how to use 'mailto' with mutt I
would appreciate.

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Re: How to install helper applications

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Am Freitag, den 06.06.2008, 21:38 +0200 schrieb Tilo Baumann:


> -- # update-desktop-database
> -- removed 'AdobeReader.desktop' in /usr/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache
>    in the line with application/pdf leaving there just 'xpdf.desktop'.
>
> That eliminates the need to select between those two viewers, and I may
> press 'open' at once.
>
> I would like to have xpdf started at once, though.

I think you can't prevent Galeon from asking whether to save the file or
to use an external helper, if there is no appropriate plugin.

> Additional question: is xpdf installable as a plugin?

But you can use xpdf as an plugin by installing the "plugger"-plugin:
(http://fredrik.hubbe.net/plugger.html), which was written for mozilla,
but works with galeon too. Unfortunately there is no documentation on
the plugger-site, but if neither AdobeReader nor ghostview is installed
on your system, no change to the default configuration is needed to use
xpdf to view pdf files within your browser. Otherwise you just have to
comment out the lines for acroread and/or gv in the PDF section of
"/etc/pluggerrc-5.1.3" (or copy this file to $HOME/.plugger/ and do the
changes there). If it doesn't work, maybe
<http://fredrik.hubbe.net/plugger/troubleshooting.html> gives help.


--
Jesko
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http://www.yeahchaos.de/jesko


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Parent Message unknown Re: How to install helper applications

by Tilo Baumann :: Rate this Message:

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-- I repeat this mail because it did not appear on the list. --

On Fri, Jun 06, 2008 at 05:44:02PM +0200 Michael Mauch wrote:

> Tilo Baumann wrote:

> > So far when linking to a pdf file galeon offers an alert of two
> > helper application to choose of, one of which is xpdf (the other acroread).
> >
> > I want to eliminate this step: when linking to a pdf file galeon should
> > start xpdf without asking me.


> > Installation of such defaults used to be an option in the menu called
> > 'helper application' or, perhaps, 'mime types'.  How is it done now?

I checked it up in an old mozilla, and find it working with just a click
on the link.


> Perhaps it works if you start "nautilus --no-desktop", find a .pdf file,
> right-click on it -> Properties -> Open With. I think that's the way
> it's supposed to work (somebody please correct me if I'm wrong).

liedena:~# apt-get install nautilus
The following extra packages will be installed:
  capplets capplets-data desktop-base docbook-xml gnome-desktop-data
gnome-icon-theme gnome-session
  hicolor-icon-theme libgstreamer-plugins0.8-0 libgstreamer0.8-0
libmetacity0 libscrollkeeper0
  libxklavier8 libxslt1.1 nautilus-data scrollkeeper sgml-base sgml-data xml-core

Need to get 14,3MB of archives.
After unpacking 48,8MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] n

I said 'no', today, but  will think it over as it is no great fuss to
delete those packages if I don't them anymore.


> If that doesn't help, you could remove the offending .desktop file and
> run update-desktop-database (perhaps as root).

That is what I did.  More exactly: I didn't remove AdobeReader.desktop
but edited mimeinfo.cache.



> A web search for 'galeon update-desktop-database' also finds e.g.
> <http://www.linuxforen.de/forums/showthread.php?t=216790>.

ok, that is the same suggestion.  However, copying mimeinfo.cache into
~/local/share/applications (as suggested) did not work.  I further rely
on it located in /usr/share/applications/.


> <http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/desktop-file-utils> also could be
> useful.

In respect to that page I am a bit helpless. Can you be more specific?


Thanks for your answer, Michael!


Tilo



PS: If you/somebody can give me advice how to use 'mailto' with mutt I
would appreciate.



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Re: How to install helper applications

by Tilo Baumann :: Rate this Message:

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Am Sat, Jun 07, 2008 at 02:41:55PM +0200 schrieb Jesko:

> Am Freitag, den 06.06.2008, 21:38 +0200 schrieb Tilo Baumann:

> > I would like to have xpdf started at once, though.
>
> I think you can't prevent Galeon from asking whether to save the file or
> to use an external helper, if there is no appropriate plugin.

Ok, it seems to be a feature of galeon, I thought it to be a mistake of mine.


> But you can use xpdf as an plugin by installing the "plugger"-plugin:
> (http://fredrik.hubbe.net/plugger.html), which was written for mozilla,

Ok, I looked for it, found it and tried to install it.  make would not
run without errors: pluginsdk/include/npapi.h is missing.  It is offered
by Debian in a mozilla-dev or mozilla-thunderbird-dev package.

I will think of installing it.  In the meantime, however, I happened to
use another computer of mine and was astonished to find installed

    File name: mozplugger.so
    MozPlugger version 1.7.3, written by Fredrik Hübinette
<hubbe@...> and Louis Bavoil <bavoil@...>

and working fine.  It is written by the same author, and seems to be a
predecessor of the program you recommended/suggested.  Do you know of
differences?

Thanks for your answer!


PS: I am still looking for installing mailto in galeon using mutt. If you
or somebody ...


Tilo

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