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Re: How to write beats

by Stephen Cameron :: Rate this Message:

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--- schoappied <schoappied@...> wrote:

[snip]
>
> I was wondering, is there information available to learn putting those
> beats into notation? What 'symbol' belongs to the bass, hi-hat etc.
> Is there information on the internet about it? Or does someone knows a
> other method (good book) for it?
>

Probably not what you were thinking of, but I was thinking of transforming
the ascii "tablature" in this howto into a more "standard" form of ascii
tablature -- e.g., the kind which can be cut and pasted into gneutronica.

http://gneutronica.sourceforge.net/index.html#tablature

> And how easy is it to match the notes with a drumkit in for example
> hydrogen? I think it should possible to play the drum score in
> Rosegarden with Hydrogen as a synth..

You can drive hydrogen with gneutronica.  Pretty sure I've done
that.

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Re: How to write beats

by Anders Dahnielson :: Rate this Message:

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On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 5:15 PM, schoappied <schoappied@...> wrote:

I was wondering, is there information available to learn putting those
beats into notation? What 'symbol' belongs to the bass, hi-hat etc.
Is there information on the internet about it? Or does someone knows a
other method (good book) for it?

And how easy is it to match the notes with a drumkit in for example
hydrogen? I think it should possible to play the drum score in
Rosegarden with Hydrogen as a synth..

Sure there is!

Here's an introduction to drum notation:

http://www.drums-and-drum-sets.com/drum-notation.php

And the Lilypond documentation has a nice overview of which "pitch" maps to what drum in different notation styles:

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.10/Documentation/user/lilypond/Percussion-staves#Percussion-staves

When it comes to drums and MIDI you have a choice of drum maps (which note maps to what drum) either standard GM drum map, the nifty MC505 map or some custom map (because every drum kit is different and MIDI should be regarded as "recorded performances" and not as "notation" -- although most maps is usually compatible when it comes to basic kick, snare and hihat).

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Re: How to write beats

by Anders Dahnielson :: Rate this Message:

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On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 6:09 PM, Anders Dahnielson <anders@...> wrote:


On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 5:15 PM, schoappied <schoappied@...> wrote:

I was wondering, is there information available to learn putting those
beats into notation? What 'symbol' belongs to the bass, hi-hat etc.
Is there information on the internet about it? Or does someone knows a
other method (good book) for it?

And how easy is it to match the notes with a drumkit in for example
hydrogen? I think it should possible to play the drum score in
Rosegarden with Hydrogen as a synth..

Sure there is!

Here's an introduction to drum notation:

http://www.drums-and-drum-sets.com/drum-notation.php

And the Lilypond documentation has a nice overview of which "pitch" maps to what drum in different notation styles:

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.10/Documentation/user/lilypond/Percussion-staves#Percussion-staves

When it comes to drums and MIDI you have a choice of drum maps (which note maps to what drum) either standard GM drum map, the nifty MC505 map or some custom map (because every drum kit is different and MIDI should be regarded as "recorded performances" and not as "notation" -- although most maps is usually compatible when it comes to basic kick, snare and hihat).


Maybe I should add that no standardized drum notation exists, different copyists/publishers/musicians use slightly different styles even if they look very much the same. The "pitch" for kick, snare and hihat are usually the same while the way different cymbals and toms are notated differ. E.g. most drum books contain a legend explaining the notation style used, which is always a good idea if notation will be read by someone else than the composer.

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Re: How to write beats

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Hallo,
schoappied hat gesagt: // schoappied wrote:

> I did also install the monday version, nice although I'm able to open
> the pattern, but I don't know how to edit it...

The funny boxes are "symbol"-atoms. You can edit them by just clicking
into them (there will be no indication of success) and then start
typing. End typing with <ENTER>.

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Re: How to write beats

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Hallo,
schoappied hat gesagt: // schoappied wrote:
> And how easy is it to match the notes with a drumkit in for example
> hydrogen? I think it should possible to play the drum score in
> Rosegarden with Hydrogen as a synth..

You could use the Pd patch I posted for this. I think, Hydrogen can do
midi, then you just need to convert the drum letters to midi note
numbers, for example with attached Pd patch. Put it next to
s-beatschool.pd and in s-beatschool.pd, create an object box (with Ctl-1)
and type "beat2midi" into that. Then connect that to the [r $0-hit]
receiver and use qjackctl to connect Pd to hydrogen.

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Re: How to write beats

by philippe hezaine :: Rate this Message:

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Stephen Cameron a écrit :

> --- schoappied <schoappied@...> wrote:
>
> [snip]
>  
>> I was wondering, is there information available to learn putting those
>> beats into notation? What 'symbol' belongs to the bass, hi-hat etc.
>> Is there information on the internet about it? Or does someone knows a
>> other method (good book) for it?
>>
>>    
>
> Probably not what you were thinking of, but I was thinking of transforming
> the ascii "tablature" in this howto into a more "standard" form of ascii
> tablature -- e.g., the kind which can be cut and pasted into gneutronica.
>
> http://gneutronica.sourceforge.net/index.html#tablature
>  
I was very interested to tablatures and i googled for that. It was hell.
Commercials banners, nothing is free and i get rid of
them when i see many times: " Your tab is not available for now but ...
links to ... " and "re-bla-bla" again.
I like very much gneutronica for its rythmic capabilities. And i'm
wondering about this feature of tablatures.

>  
>> And how easy is it to match the notes with a drumkit in for example
>> hydrogen? I think it should possible to play the drum score in
>> Rosegarden with Hydrogen as a synth..
>>    
>
> You can drive hydrogen with gneutronica.  Pretty sure I've done
> that.
>
> -- steve
>  
I confirm.  Even with LinuxSampler. Hé! I'm not only saying Hydrogen is
a drum sampler.
Best.

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Re: How to write beats

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Anders Dahnielson a écrit :

>
>
> On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 5:15 PM, schoappied <schoappied@...
> <mailto:schoappied@...>> wrote:
>
>
>     I was wondering, is there information available to learn putting those
>     beats into notation? What 'symbol' belongs to the bass, hi-hat etc.
>     Is there information on the internet about it? Or does someone knows a
>     other method (good book) for it?
>
>     And how easy is it to match the notes with a drumkit in for example
>     hydrogen? I think it should possible to play the drum score in
>     Rosegarden with Hydrogen as a synth..
>
>
> Sure there is!
>
> Here's an introduction to drum notation:
>
> http://www.drums-and-drum-sets.com/drum-notation.php
>
> And the Lilypond documentation has a nice overview of which "pitch"
> maps to what drum in different notation styles:
>
> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.10/Documentation/user/lilypond/Percussion-staves#Percussion-staves
>
> When it comes to drums and MIDI you have a choice of drum maps (which
> note maps to what drum) either standard GM drum map, the nifty MC505
> map or some custom map (because every drum kit is different and MIDI
> should be regarded as "recorded performances" and not as "notation" --
> although most maps is usually compatible when it comes to basic kick,
> snare and hihat).
>
> --
> Anders Dahnielson
> <anders@... <mailto:anders@...>>
Sorry for the inconvenient. My post was too big.
Here is a  zip with my map. It isn't so different than Lilypond's
standard notation, apart for a few percussions.
For a few days:

http://philippe.hezaine.free.fr/spip.php?article28

all the best.

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Re: How to write beats

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Frank Barknecht wrote:

> Hallo,
> schoappied hat gesagt: // schoappied wrote:
>  
>> And how easy is it to match the notes with a drumkit in for example
>> hydrogen? I think it should possible to play the drum score in
>> Rosegarden with Hydrogen as a synth..
>>    
>
> You could use the Pd patch I posted for this. I think, Hydrogen can do
> midi, then you just need to convert the drum letters to midi note
> numbers, for example with attached Pd patch. Put it next to
> s-beatschool.pd and in s-beatschool.pd, create an object box (with Ctl-1)
> and type "beat2midi" into that. Then connect that to the [r $0-hit]
> receiver and use qjackctl to connect Pd to hydrogen.

Thanks for the comment about editing (previous message in this thread),
I'm able to do it now :) I start to find pure date interesting...

I don't understand totally your quoted explanation.

... I make drum letters, in NtEd for example.... how can pd grab,
convert and play that file?

About creating the object box, how do I connect the box to [r $0-hit]?

Thanks in advance,

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Re: How to write beats

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On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 11:14 AM, schoappied <schoappied@...> wrote:

> Frank Barknecht wrote:
>  > Hallo,
>  > schoappied hat gesagt: // schoappied wrote:
>  >
>  >> And how easy is it to match the notes with a drumkit in for example
>  >> hydrogen? I think it should possible to play the drum score in
>  >> Rosegarden with Hydrogen as a synth..
>  >>
>  >
>  > You could use the Pd patch I posted for this. I think, Hydrogen can do
>  > midi, then you just need to convert the drum letters to midi note
>  > numbers, for example with attached Pd patch. Put it next to
>  > s-beatschool.pd and in s-beatschool.pd, create an object box (with Ctl-1)
>  > and type "beat2midi" into that. Then connect that to the [r $0-hit]
>  > receiver and use qjackctl to connect Pd to hydrogen.
>
>  Thanks for the comment about editing (previous message in this thread),
>  I'm able to do it now :) I start to find pure date interesting...
>
>  I don't understand totally your quoted explanation.
>
>  ... I make drum letters, in NtEd for example.... how can pd grab,
>  convert and play that file?
>
>  About creating the object box, how do I connect the box to [r $0-hit]?
>
>  Thanks in advance,
>
>
>
>  Dirk
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>
a [r] is a nonlocal receiver. if you make a box that says [s $0-hit]
in the same window, it will
send its output there without a wire. Almost every pd object has a
help patch showing an
example of its usage, if you right click on the object, and choose help.

By the way, I have recently released some plugins, and include some
documentation with
them, and would be honored to know if they pass the patented
"schoappied usability test".
You can get them via:
svn checkout https://noisesmith-linux-audio.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/
noisesmith-linux-audio

I have announced the plugins also to linux-audio-announce, but that is
a moderated list, so who knows when they show up on there.

Of course, I invite everyone here to take a look (lots of screenshots!).
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Re: How to write beats

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google messed up that formatting a bit, and I think I also gave the wrong url:

try
svn checkout http://noisesmith-linux-audio.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/
noisesmith-linux-audio-read-only

On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 11:26 AM, Justin Smith <noisesmith@...> wrote:

>
> On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 11:14 AM, schoappied <schoappied@...> wrote:
>  > Frank Barknecht wrote:
>  >  > Hallo,
>  >  > schoappied hat gesagt: // schoappied wrote:
>  >  >
>  >  >> And how easy is it to match the notes with a drumkit in for example
>  >  >> hydrogen? I think it should possible to play the drum score in
>  >  >> Rosegarden with Hydrogen as a synth..
>  >  >>
>  >  >
>  >  > You could use the Pd patch I posted for this. I think, Hydrogen can do
>  >  > midi, then you just need to convert the drum letters to midi note
>  >  > numbers, for example with attached Pd patch. Put it next to
>  >  > s-beatschool.pd and in s-beatschool.pd, create an object box (with Ctl-1)
>  >  > and type "beat2midi" into that. Then connect that to the [r $0-hit]
>  >  > receiver and use qjackctl to connect Pd to hydrogen.
>  >
>  >  Thanks for the comment about editing (previous message in this thread),
>  >  I'm able to do it now :) I start to find pure date interesting...
>  >
>  >  I don't understand totally your quoted explanation.
>  >
>  >  ... I make drum letters, in NtEd for example.... how can pd grab,
>  >  convert and play that file?
>  >
>  >  About creating the object box, how do I connect the box to [r $0-hit]?
>  >
>  >  Thanks in advance,
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >  Dirk
>  >  _______________________________________________
>  >  Linux-audio-user mailing list
>  >  Linux-audio-user@...
>  >  http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user
>  >
>  a [r] is a nonlocal receiver. if you make a box that says [s $0-hit]
>  in the same window, it will
>  send its output there without a wire. Almost every pd object has a
>  help patch showing an
>  example of its usage, if you right click on the object, and choose help.
>
>  By the way, I have recently released some plugins, and include some
>  documentation with
>  them, and would be honored to know if they pass the patented
>  "schoappied usability test".
>  You can get them via:
>  svn checkout https://noisesmith-linux-audio.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/
>  noisesmith-linux-audio
>
>  I have announced the plugins also to linux-audio-announce, but that is
>  a moderated list, so who knows when they show up on there.
>
>  Of course, I invite everyone here to take a look (lots of screenshots!).
>
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Re: How to write beats

by Luigi Curzi :: Rate this Message:

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Il giorno Mon, 21 Apr 2008 11:29:57 -0700
"Justin Smith" <noisesmith@...> ha scritto:

> google messed up that formatting a bit, and I think I also gave the
> wrong url:
>
> try
> svn checkout http://noisesmith-linux-audio.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/
> noisesmith-linux-audio-read-only
>
> On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 11:26 AM, Justin Smith <noisesmith@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 11:14 AM, schoappied <schoappied@...>
> > wrote:
> >  > Frank Barknecht wrote:
> >  >  > Hallo,
> >  >  > schoappied hat gesagt: // schoappied wrote:
> >  >  >
> >  >  >> And how easy is it to match the notes with a drumkit in for
> >  >  >> example hydrogen? I think it should possible to play the
> >  >  >> drum score in Rosegarden with Hydrogen as a synth..
> >  >  >>
> >  >  >
> >  >  > You could use the Pd patch I posted for this. I think,
> >  >  > Hydrogen can do midi, then you just need to convert the drum
> >  >  > letters to midi note numbers, for example with attached Pd
> >  >  > patch. Put it next to s-beatschool.pd and in s-beatschool.pd,
> >  >  > create an object box (with Ctl-1) and type "beat2midi" into
> >  >  > that. Then connect that to the [r $0-hit] receiver and use
> >  >  > qjackctl to connect Pd to hydrogen.
> >  >
> >  >  Thanks for the comment about editing (previous message in this
> >  > thread), I'm able to do it now :) I start to find pure date
> >  > interesting...
> >  >
> >  >  I don't understand totally your quoted explanation.
> >  >
> >  >  ... I make drum letters, in NtEd for example.... how can pd
> >  > grab, convert and play that file?
> >  >
> >  >  About creating the object box, how do I connect the box to [r
> >  > $0-hit]?
> >  >
> >  >  Thanks in advance,
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >  Dirk
> >  >  _______________________________________________
> >  >  Linux-audio-user mailing list
> >  >  Linux-audio-user@...
> >  >  http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user
> >  >
> >  a [r] is a nonlocal receiver. if you make a box that says [s
> > $0-hit] in the same window, it will
> >  send its output there without a wire. Almost every pd object has a
> >  help patch showing an
> >  example of its usage, if you right click on the object, and choose
> > help.
> >
> >  By the way, I have recently released some plugins, and include some
> >  documentation with
> >  them, and would be honored to know if they pass the patented
> >  "schoappied usability test".
> >  You can get them via:
> >  svn checkout
> > https://noisesmith-linux-audio.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/
> > noisesmith-linux-audio
> >
> >  I have announced the plugins also to linux-audio-announce, but
> > that is a moderated list, so who knows when they show up on there.
> >
> >  Of course, I invite everyone here to take a look (lots of
> > screenshots!).
> >

i can't understand why i would use ladosc, ardour has yet plugins
automation, am i wrong?

or can i connect with ladosc any softsynth in (ad example) ardour and
automate its slider/knobs (of the softsynth)? how?

maybe, i understand nothing.
excuse for my english, but i'm drunk and italian.

ciao
Luigi
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Re: How to write beats

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On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 12:31 PM, luigi curzi <luigi_curzi@...> wrote:

> Il giorno Mon, 21 Apr 2008 11:29:57 -0700
>  "Justin Smith" <noisesmith@...> ha scritto:
>
>
>
>  > google messed up that formatting a bit, and I think I also gave the
>  > wrong url:
>  >
>  > try
>  > svn checkout http://noisesmith-linux-audio.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/
>  > noisesmith-linux-audio-read-only
>  >
>  > On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 11:26 AM, Justin Smith <noisesmith@...>
>  > wrote:
>  > >
>  > > On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 11:14 AM, schoappied <schoappied@...>
>  > > wrote:
>  > >  > Frank Barknecht wrote:
>  > >  >  > Hallo,
>  > >  >  > schoappied hat gesagt: // schoappied wrote:
>  > >  >  >
>  > >  >  >> And how easy is it to match the notes with a drumkit in for
>  > >  >  >> example hydrogen? I think it should possible to play the
>  > >  >  >> drum score in Rosegarden with Hydrogen as a synth..
>  > >  >  >>
>  > >  >  >
>  > >  >  > You could use the Pd patch I posted for this. I think,
>  > >  >  > Hydrogen can do midi, then you just need to convert the drum
>  > >  >  > letters to midi note numbers, for example with attached Pd
>  > >  >  > patch. Put it next to s-beatschool.pd and in s-beatschool.pd,
>  > >  >  > create an object box (with Ctl-1) and type "beat2midi" into
>  > >  >  > that. Then connect that to the [r $0-hit] receiver and use
>  > >  >  > qjackctl to connect Pd to hydrogen.
>  > >  >
>  > >  >  Thanks for the comment about editing (previous message in this
>  > >  > thread), I'm able to do it now :) I start to find pure date
>  > >  > interesting...
>  > >  >
>  > >  >  I don't understand totally your quoted explanation.
>  > >  >
>  > >  >  ... I make drum letters, in NtEd for example.... how can pd
>  > >  > grab, convert and play that file?
>  > >  >
>  > >  >  About creating the object box, how do I connect the box to [r
>  > >  > $0-hit]?
>  > >  >
>  > >  >  Thanks in advance,
>  > >  >
>  > >  >
>  > >  >
>  > >  >  Dirk
>  > >  >  _______________________________________________
>  > >  >  Linux-audio-user mailing list
>  > >  >  Linux-audio-user@...
>  > >  >  http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user
>  > >  >
>  > >  a [r] is a nonlocal receiver. if you make a box that says [s
>  > > $0-hit] in the same window, it will
>  > >  send its output there without a wire. Almost every pd object has a
>  > >  help patch showing an
>  > >  example of its usage, if you right click on the object, and choose
>  > > help.
>  > >
>  > >  By the way, I have recently released some plugins, and include some
>  > >  documentation with
>  > >  them, and would be honored to know if they pass the patented
>  > >  "schoappied usability test".
>  > >  You can get them via:
>  > >  svn checkout
>  > > https://noisesmith-linux-audio.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/
>  > > noisesmith-linux-audio
>  > >
>  > >  I have announced the plugins also to linux-audio-announce, but
>  > > that is a moderated list, so who knows when they show up on there.
>  > >
>  > >  Of course, I invite everyone here to take a look (lots of
>  > > screenshots!).
>  > >
>
>  i can't understand why i would use ladosc, ardour has yet plugins
>  automation, am i wrong?
>
>  or can i connect with ladosc any softsynth in (ad example) ardour and
>  automate its slider/knobs (of the softsynth)? how?
>
>  maybe, i understand nothing.
>  excuse for my english, but i'm drunk and italian.
>
>  ciao
>  Luigi
>
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>
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>               Non sarò mai niente.
>         Non posso volere d'essere niente.
>  A parte questo, ho in me tutti i sogni del mondo.
>
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It is for connecting the automations in one program, to plugins in
another program. In the illustrated step by step example, it is ardour
automations controlling a patch made in galan (but it could similarly
connect to pd, whathaveyou).

It also comes with some basic computational operator plugins (+, -, *,
/, %, |, ||, if, etc.) that should be useful for patching things
together pd style.
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Re: How to write beats

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Hallo,
schoappied hat gesagt: // schoappied wrote:

> Thanks for the comment about editing (previous message in this thread),
> I'm able to do it now :) I start to find pure date interesting...

If you want to dig a bit deeper, I'd recommend to go to the menu
"Help->Browser->2.control.examples" and read through the first couple of
patches. Or print and read the HTML manual on your way to work.

> About creating the object box, how do I connect the box to [r $0-hit]?

Ctl-E to switch to edit-mode (Ctl-E again to get out), then you drag a
connecttion with the mouse from the oulet of [r $0-hit] to the inlet of
[beat2midi]. It's also in the help patch: 02.editing.pd and the
following.

Have fun.

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Re: How to write beats

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Ken Restivo wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 03:47:00PM +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote:
>  
>> Hallo Chris,
>> Chris McCormick hat gesagt: // Chris McCormick wrote:
>>    
<snip>

> Drifting off-topic a bit, but here is a loop sampled from my daughter's toy keyboard's built-in drum machine:
> http://freesound.iua.upf.edu/samplesViewSingle.php?id=52126
>
> I found the sounds really cheesy, but I also found the beat really interesting and kind of complex for a kid's toy.
>
> -ken
>  
Ken,

Help an acoustic musician understand how you "sampled" the drum
accompaniment, and what form it's in.  Is MIDI data available in the
process for driving a synth drum kit?

Frank
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Re: How to write beats

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On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 06:56:33PM -0400, frank pirrone wrote:

> Ken Restivo wrote:
>> On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 03:47:00PM +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote:
>>  
>>> Hallo Chris,
>>> Chris McCormick hat gesagt: // Chris McCormick wrote:
>>>    
> <snip>
>
>> Drifting off-topic a bit, but here is a loop sampled from my daughter's toy keyboard's built-in drum machine:
>> http://freesound.iua.upf.edu/samplesViewSingle.php?id=52126
>>
>> I found the sounds really cheesy, but I also found the beat really interesting and kind of complex for a kid's toy.

Heh, I just recorded it. But it's called a "sample" in Freesound terminology.

I guess one could cut up the individual drum beats into separate drum "samples".

I was intrigued by the weirdly syncopated beat that was in this kid's toy, and I figured I'd post it.

I promised my daughter I'd make a song out of it but I haven't gotten around to it yet. I will though.

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Re: How to write beats

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On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 03:47:00PM +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote:

> Hallo Chris,
> Chris McCormick hat gesagt: // Chris McCormick wrote:
>
> > I wrote this for a couple of my friends and thought it might come in
> > useful for someone else:
> > <http://mccormick.cx/news/entries/how-to-write-beats.news>
>
> Very, very cool! As a little sunday afternoon fun project I made the
> patterns into a Pd patch, see attached, feel free to put it anywhere
> you like. Samples from freesound are not included, but if you unpack
> this: http://freesound.iua.upf.edu/packsViewSingle.php?id=120 into the
> "samples" subdir, everything will load immediatly. s-beatschool.pd is
> the main patch.

Way cool Frank, thanks! If it's ok with you I will add a link to your
patch (the latest revision) from my post.

Chris.

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Re: How to write beats

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On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 10:46:01AM +0200, Thorsten Wilms wrote:
> On Sun, 2008-04-20 at 11:59 +0800, Chris McCormick wrote:
>
> > <http://mccormick.cx/news/entries/how-to-write-beats.news>
>
> So if you want something that "stomps", you accentuate the backbeats.

Thanks for your detailed post, Thorsten; most illuminating. I'll add a
link to this email in the archive from my post.

Best,

Chris.

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Re: How to write beats

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Hallo,
Chris McCormick hat gesagt: // Chris McCormick wrote:

> On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 10:46:01AM +0200, Thorsten Wilms wrote:
> > On Sun, 2008-04-20 at 11:59 +0800, Chris McCormick wrote:
> >
> > > <http://mccormick.cx/news/entries/how-to-write-beats.news>
> >
> > So if you want something that "stomps", you accentuate the backbeats.
>
> Thanks for your detailed post, Thorsten; most illuminating. I'll add a
> link to this email in the archive from my post.

The latest version was missing list-drip.pd. You could also just put
the archive on your site, if you want. Public domain.

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Re: How to write beats

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Philippe Hezaine wrote:

> Hi all,
> Many thanks Chris.
>
> I've made a lilypond file, a midi file and a pdf from your article.
> Some velocities are given as numbers. (not complete)
> May be there are mistakes or incomprehensions.
> Tell me your feedback.
>
> It's here for some days:
>
> http://philippe.hezaine.free.fr/spip.php?article28
>
> Have fun.
>  
Which program did you use to make the drum notation and the midi file?

Edit: shouldn't it be possible in hydrogen to insert drum notation
instead of patterns?

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Re: How to write beats

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> Philippe Hezaine wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> Many thanks Chris.
>>
>> I've made a lilypond file, a midi file and a pdf from your article.
>> Some velocities are given as numbers. (not complete)
>> May be there are mistakes or incomprehensions.
>> Tell me your feedback.
>>
>> It's here for some days:
>>
>> http://philippe.hezaine.free.fr/spip.php?article28
>>
>> Have fun.  
Which program did you use to make the drum notation and the midi file?

Edit: shouldn't it be possible in hydrogen to insert drum notation
instead of patterns?


Dirk

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