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ISRC submission tool for Windows

by Bugzilla from lalinsky@gmail.com :: Rate this Message:

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Hi,

I've written a simple command line application to submit ISRCs from
CDs to MusicBrainz. If the DiscID is already in MusicBrainz, it will
ask you to confirm that the release is the correct one, otherwise it
will launch a browser and ask you to submit the DiscID first. After
you confirm the release, it will ask for your username/password
(password will be shown, sorry about that) and submit the ISRCs to MB.
While it's a command line application, you can start it from Explorer
like any other GUI application if you have only one CD drive.

http://www.oxygene.sk/lukas/isrcsubmit-0.1.zip

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Re: ISRC submission tool for Windows

by Chad Wilson-2 :: Rate this Message:

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> Hi,
>
> I've written a simple command line application to submit ISRCs from
> CDs to MusicBrainz. If the DiscID is already in MusicBrainz, it will
> ask you to confirm that the release is the correct one, otherwise it
> will launch a browser and ask you to submit the DiscID first. After
> you confirm the release, it will ask for your username/password
> (password will be shown, sorry about that) and submit the ISRCs to MB.
> While it's a command line application, you can start it from Explorer
> like any other GUI application if you have only one CD drive.
>
> http://www.oxygene.sk/lukas/isrcsubmit-0.1.zip
>
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Great idea. How long should one expect it to take to run, on an average disc? Is it O(n) to the # of tracks? It's taking a couple of minutes for some of mine.

Also, one CD I've got gave me output which looks really weird to me (multiple tracks with same ISRC?). It's a DJ-mix CD so admittedly would seem to fall into a weird area for ISRCs.

DiscID   : hQzzrGup9A7SUZ8LghrE_HqnvcE-
Track 1  : USPO10200021
Track 2  : USPO10200021
Track 3  : USBS10000052
Track 4  : USEE10251224
Track 5  :
Track 6  : USAR10200722
Track 7  : USAR10200722
Track 8  : USV120200353
Track 9  :
Track 10 :
Track 11 :
Track 12 : USDJ20200342
Track 13 : USIR10300033
Track 14 : USIR10300033
Track 15 : USIR10312250
Track 16 : USIR10312250
Track 17 : USIR10211471
Track 18 :
Track 19 :
Track 20 :
Track 21 :
Track 22 :
Track 23 : USDJ20201202
Track 24 : USDJ20201202
Track 25 : USDJ20201202
Track 26 : USDJ20201202
Track 27 : USSM10211988
Track 28 : USDJ20201202
Track 29 : USDJ29900052
Track 30 : USDJ29900052
Track 31 : USDJ29900052
Track 32 : USDJ20201429
Track 33 : USDJ20201429
Track 34 :
Track 35 : USIR10211053
Track 36 : USIR10211053
Track 37 :
Track 38 : USIR10211059
Track 39 : USIR10211059
Track 40 : USDJ20300493
Track 41 : USDJ20300493

Matching releases:
1) http://musicbrainz.org/release/7992411a-2c62-4b79-86cc-4fe1f4121400.html Major Flavours 4 (disc 1)

Do you recommend any separate tool where I can verify correctness?

As a wider issue, can we blindly trust ISRC content of a disc? Are there certain types of discs/recordings that we just shouldn't bother with?

Chad
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Re: ISRC submission tool for Windows

by Chad Wilson-2 :: Rate this Message:

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> Do you recommend any separate tool where I can verify correctness?

You can ignore this part of my question. I got icedax working under Cygwin, which confirms them. I have another disc which gives the following, again with repeated ISRCs for completely different recordings :( (tracks 4+5, 6+7, 9+10)

T:  1 ISRC: NZ-SU1-08-00001
T:  2 ISRC: NZ-SU1-08-00007
T:  3 ISRC: NZ-SU1-09-00004
T:  4 ISRC: NZ-SU1-09-00009
T:  5 ISRC: NZ-SU1-09-00009
T:  6 ISRC: NZ-SU1-09-00008
T:  7 ISRC: NZ-SU1-09-00008
T:  8 ISRC: NZ-SU1-09-00003
T:  9 ISRC: NZ-SU1-09-00005
T: 10 ISRC: NZ-SU1-09-00005
T: 11 ISRC: NZ-SU1-09-00007
T: 12 ISRC: NZ-SU1-09-00002

Do I even both submitting such ISRCs? Could the tool perhaps highlight and then allow me to not submit the cross-linked ISRCs, or some such?

And for my own info about the process, who do we blame if the above are indeed wrong? Is it an error in mastering?

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Re: ISRC submission tool for Windows

by Bugzilla from lalinsky@gmail.com :: Rate this Message:

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On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 6:58 AM, Chad Wilson<chad.wilson@...> wrote:
> How long should one expect it to take to run, on an average disc? Is it O(n) to the # of tracks? It's taking a couple of minutes for some of mine.

It's taking a few seconds for ~10 track CD here. I'm not sure how
exactly is Windows reading the data, but they are stored in the track
data, so it basically has to scan the whole CD (though it can skip to
the next track after finding one).

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Re: ISRC submission tool for Windows

by Bugzilla from lalinsky@gmail.com :: Rate this Message:

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On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 8:30 AM, Chad Wilson<chad.wilson@...> wrote:
> Do I even both submitting such ISRCs? Could the tool perhaps highlight and then allow me to not submit the cross-linked ISRCs, or some such?

I'll try to fix it so that it doesn't submit such ISRCs, or at least
give a warning.

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Re: ISRC submission tool for Windows

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On Thu, 2009-08-13 at 06:58 +0200, Chad Wilson wrote:
> Track 29 : USDJ29900052
> Track 30 : USDJ29900052
> Track 31 : USDJ29900052
>
> Do you recommend any separate tool where I can verify correctness?
>
> As a wider issue, can we blindly trust ISRC content of a disc? Are there certain types of discs/recordings that we just shouldn't bother with?
>
> Chad

For independent verification of ISRC extraction, try using EAC [1] - If
you enable "Retrieve UPC/ISRC codes in CUE sheet generation" in the EAC
Options, Tools tab it will extract the ISRCs. I've found it to be more
reliable on one of my CDRom drives than other tools I've tried (cdrdao
in particular).
You can use "Action > Create CUE Sheet" to only do the ISRC extraction
without ripping the entire CD.

As far as correctness goes; You can't really be sure. However, I've
found that most of the time if ISRCs are present at all (and were read
correctly; one program I tried read ISRCs with random data - but that's
easy to tell, they were obviously wrong), they're correct.
In this case, with a DJ mix CD, isn't it possible that, say, tracks
29-31 were recorded together as a single work, and some of the other
tracks simply never had ISRCs registered?

Also, Musicbrainz really needs a way to search by ISRC so we can look up
duplicates :)  

1. http://www.exactaudiocopy.de/

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Re: ISRC submission tool for Windows

by Age Bosma-2 :: Rate this Message:

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Calvin Walton wrote:
>
> Also, Musicbrainz really needs a way to search by ISRC so we can look up
> duplicates :)  
>

Temp solution: http://musicbrainz.org/show/isrc/?isrc=US4E40962601

Replace the last bit with you ISRC code. If the ISRC code is only
attached to one track it will redirect to the track details page. If
it's attached to multiple tracks you'll get a list of those tracks.

Yours,

Age

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Re: ISRC submission tool for Windows

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Calvin Walton wrote:

> On Thu, 2009-08-13 at 06:58 +0200, Chad Wilson wrote:
>  
>> Track 29 : USDJ29900052
>> Track 30 : USDJ29900052
>> Track 31 : USDJ29900052
>>
>> Do you recommend any separate tool where I can verify correctness?
>>
>> As a wider issue, can we blindly trust ISRC content of a disc? Are there certain types of discs/recordings that we just shouldn't bother with?
>>
>> Chad
>>    
>
> In this case, with a DJ mix CD, isn't it possible that, say, tracks
> 29-31 were recorded together as a single work, and some of the other
> tracks simply never had ISRCs registered?
>  
I don't really know, to be honest. If I read the ISRC rules correctly,
it seems to be quite wedded to the concept of a track; and implies two
different tracks shouldn't have the same ISRC. We can speculate I guess?
Maybe you're right - I just wondered if anyone was an expert!

It would be strange if it were the case though, for it's an NZ mix CD
only released in NZ, so AFAIK if the mix was deemed to be new works,
shouldn't they have  NZ ISRCs? I actually have some of the original
retail albums that contain tracks off this mix CD though, so I'll do a
check and see if any of the ISRCs correlate at some point.

It's completely unexplainable on the other example I gave in a separate
message though. It's not even a mix CD, and each work is definitely
completely separate - even released by the same label?

But yes, that's why I'm asking these questions. My not-so-educated guess
from my tests so far are that mastering oversights/laziness/problems are
going to be somewhat problematic for correctness of ISRC submission. :-(

Chad

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Re: ISRC submission tool for Windows

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Age Bosma wrote:

> Calvin Walton wrote:
>  
>> Also, Musicbrainz really needs a way to search by ISRC so we can look up
>> duplicates :)  
>>
>>    
>
> Temp solution: http://musicbrainz.org/show/isrc/?isrc=US4E40962601
>
> Replace the last bit with you ISRC code. If the ISRC code is only
> attached to one track it will redirect to the track details page. If
> it's attached to multiple tracks you'll get a list of those tracks.
>  
Or just use the search page: http://musicbrainz.org/search.html
There's an ISRC search field.

- Aurélien

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Re: ISRC submission tool for Windows

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On a related note, how many people use Max for Mac OS X?
(http://sbooth.org/Max/)

I recently submitted a patch to add DiscID submission to MusicBrainz. Would
people like to be able to submit ISRCs too?
 
nick.


On 14/08/2009 17:45, "Aurélien Mino" <a.mino@...> wrote:

> Age Bosma wrote:
>> Calvin Walton wrote:
>>  
>>> Also, Musicbrainz really needs a way to search by ISRC so we can look up
>>> duplicates :)  
>>>
>>>    
>>
>> Temp solution: http://musicbrainz.org/show/isrc/?isrc=US4E40962601
>>
>> Replace the last bit with you ISRC code. If the ISRC code is only
>> attached to one track it will redirect to the track details page. If
>> it's attached to multiple tracks you'll get a list of those tracks.
>>  
> Or just use the search page: http://musicbrainz.org/search.html
> There's an ISRC search field.
>
> - Aurélien
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Re: ISRC submission tool for Windows

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On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Nicholas
Humfrey<nicholas.humfrey@...> wrote:
> On a related note, how many people use Max for Mac OS X?
> (http://sbooth.org/Max/)

I use Xld (http://tmkk.hp.infoseek.co.jp/xld/index_e.html)

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Re: ISRC submission tool for Windows

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I do.

On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Nicholas
Humfrey<nicholas.humfrey@...> wrote:

> On a related note, how many people use Max for Mac OS X?
> (http://sbooth.org/Max/)
>
> I recently submitted a patch to add DiscID submission to MusicBrainz. Would
> people like to be able to submit ISRCs too?
>
> nick.
>
>
> On 14/08/2009 17:45, "Aurélien Mino" <a.mino@...> wrote:
>
>> Age Bosma wrote:
>>> Calvin Walton wrote:
>>>
>>>> Also, Musicbrainz really needs a way to search by ISRC so we can look up
>>>> duplicates :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Temp solution: http://musicbrainz.org/show/isrc/?isrc=US4E40962601
>>>
>>> Replace the last bit with you ISRC code. If the ISRC code is only
>>> attached to one track it will redirect to the track details page. If
>>> it's attached to multiple tracks you'll get a list of those tracks.
>>>
>> Or just use the search page: http://musicbrainz.org/search.html
>> There's an ISRC search field.
>>
>> - Aurélien
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Re: ISRC submission tool for Windows

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I do.

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On Tuesday, August 18, 2009, at 10:44AM, "Nicholas Humfrey" <nicholas.humfrey@...> wrote:
>On a related note, how many people use Max for Mac OS X?
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