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IVY MIKE CALENDARIn previous post, I have favored a 17-fold-division calendar. Now I have the equations that do the job. The Ivy Mike calendar is based on the 33-year cycle. It's very simple.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Here are the formulas; C = JD - 2434315.5 T = FLOOR[ ( 33*C + 692 ) / 709 ] D = C - 21*( T - 1 ) - FLOOR[ 16*T / 33 ] Where JD = Julian date, C = Day Count, T = Term or 17th-of-year, D = day-of-term ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I use Mayan ( Haab ) names for convenience. The similarity to the Haab is in name only. There is the ommision of "Uo" and "Uayeb" from a Haab set of 19 names. 01) Pop ( 9th = Autumn Mid-quarter* ) 02) Zip 03) Zotz ( 9th = Winter Solstice ) 04) Tzec 05) Xul ( 9th = Winter Mid-quarter ) 06) Yaxkin 07) Mol ( 13th = Spring Equinox ) 08) Chen 09) Yax ( 16th = Spring Mid-quarter ) 10) Zac 11) Ceh ( 19th Summer Solstice ) 12) Mac 13) Kankin 14) Muan ( 1st = Summer Mid-quarter ) 15) Pax 16) Kayab ( 6th = Autumn Equinox ) 17) Cumku *Mid-quarters are based on a solar declination = ( + or - ) 16.694° ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Here are 17 "solar glyphs" I am fond of. ![]() ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- So let's input JD = 2455008.5 ( JUN 26, 2009 ) C = 20693 T = 964 D = 3 that is, Mac 3 of year 57 |
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Re: IVY MIKE CALENDARDear Helios and Calendar People
The calendar structure is not obvious from the formulae given and is considerably more simple than these formulae. This arises from the facts that 709=21+16*(22+21) and (33 + 692) mod 709 = 16 = (33-1)/2. The calendar is an example of a calendar Helios suggested several years ago. The terms start with day C=1 and alternate between 21 and 22 days for a 33-term cycle (a term-yerm) of 709 days. The first day C of each term has ( ( 33*C + 692 ) mod 709 ) < 33. For a 22-day term the value of this expression is less than 17 so that adding 33*21=693 makes it less than 709. For a 21-day term adding 33*21=693 makes it more than 709. For each 33-term cycle (term-yerm), the value of this expression for the first day of each term is 16, 00, 17, 01, 18, 02, 19, 03, ... 29, 13, 30, 14, 31, 15, 32. Seventeen of these 709-day cycles have 12053 days, which is very close to 33 years and gives a mean year of 365.2424242424... days. So Helios defines a year to be equal the 17 terms. A year has 365 days if it either begins with a 21-day term or contains the first term of the 709-day cycle (term-yerm) else it has 366 days (by having a 22-day term at both the beginning and end). The 33-term cycle is a Helios cycle, therefore these years form a Helios Cycle, and so the 366-day years are 3, 7, 11, 15, 19, 23, 27 and 31 of each 33-year cycle. I take it that JD is the JD at the start of the day. Calendar conversion algorithms usually use the JD at noon, which is an integer. Lance Latham did this, so does Calendrica (explicitly) http://emr.cs.iit.edu/home/reingold/calendar-book/Calendrica.htm . This leads to day C=1, being the day that begins JD 2434316.5 and so be JD 2434317, which I make to be 31 October 1952. See http://isotropic.org/cgi-bin/date.pl?date=31+Oct+1952 . Helios also needs to work out formulae to convert T and D back to C or JD. Also needed are the simple formulae to convert T to Y (year) and S (term of year) and back. If each day of the term is replaced by a 17-day period (which I call a dove). Each term expands to form a year and the 709-day term-yerm becomes a 33-year cycle. This idea I put forward as the Dove calendar http://www.the-light.com/cal/kp_Dove.html Helios's formulae can be modified to find the Dove calendar date for a given day. I set the Dove calendar epoch so that the last Dove of each year nearly always has the northward equinox (especially in US EST). Today (26 June 2009) is Ff 2009 in the Dove calendar (6th day of 6th Dove). Karl 10(10(04 -----Original Message----- From: East Carolina University Calendar discussion List [mailto:CALNDR-L@...] On Behalf Of Helios Sent: 26 June 2009 03:48 To: CALNDR-L@... Subject: IVY MIKE CALENDAR In previous post, I have favored a 17-fold-division calendar. Now I have the equations that do the job. The Ivy Mike calendar is based on the 33-year cycle. It's very simple. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Here are the formulas; C = JD - 2434315.5 T = FLOOR[ ( 33*C + 692 ) / 709 ] D = C - 21*( T - 1 ) - FLOOR[ 16*T / 33 ] Where JD = Julian date, C = Day Count, T = Term or 17th-of-year, D = day-of-term ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I use Mayan ( Haab ) names for convenience. The similarity to the Haab is in name only. There is the ommision of "Uo" and "Uayeb" from a Haab set of 19 names. 01) Pop ( 9th = Autumn Mid-quarter* ) 02) Zip 03) Zotz ( 9th = Winter Solstice ) 04) Tzec 05) Xul ( 9th = Winter Mid-quarter ) 06) Yaxkin 07) Mol ( 13th = Spring Equinox ) 08) Chen 09) Yax ( 16th = Spring Mid-quarter ) 10) Zac 11) Ceh ( 19th Summer Solstice ) 12) Mac 13) Kankin 14) Muan ( 1st = Summer Mid-quarter ) 15) Pax 16) Kayab ( 6th = Autumn Equinox ) 17) Cumku *Mid-quarters are based on a solar declination = ( + or - ) 16.694° ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Here are 17 "solar glyphs" I am fond of. http://www.nabble.com/file/p24214208/17glyph.jpg ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- So let's input JD = 2455008.5 ( JUN 26, 2009 ) C = 20693 T = 964 D = 3 that is, Mac 3 of year 56 -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/IVY-MIKE-CALENDAR-tp24214208p24214208.html Sent from the Calndr-L mailing list archive at Nabble.com. |
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3663 luni-solar year cycleThe 3663 luni-solar year cycle is listed on Karl P's http://www.the-light.com/cal/Lunisolar33.html Many of the values for these datums are divisible by 17. It tells us that a good estimation for a term-month relationship is, 3663 terms = 2665 months 1 term = 2665 / 3663 months = 8 / 11 months + 1 / 3663 months and noting that 1 / 11 = 333 / 3663 tells us that the elevenths part is incremented every 333 terms ( about 19.6 years ). So I'll set the initial value of the Brown Lunation Number "L" for the first term L = 369 & 1522 / 3663 months and create the formula L = ( 2665*T + 1350504 )/ 3663 to give the Lunation Number for all terms thereafter |
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Re: 3663 lunisolar year cycleDear Helios and Calendar People
-----Original Message----- From: East Carolina University Calendar discussion List [mailto:CALNDR-L@...] On Behalf Of Helios Sent: 27 June 2009 23:37 To: CALNDR-L@... Subject: 3663 luni-solar year cycle The 3663 luni-solar year cycle is listed on Karl P's http://www.the-light.com/cal/Lunisolar33.html Many of the values for these datums are divisible by 17. It tells us that a good estimation for a term-month relationship is, 3663 terms = 2665 months KARL SAYS: Helios has discovered that the number of months (45305) in the 3663-year cycle is divisible by 17. 45305/17 = 2665 hence this cycle approximates 2665 lunar months to 3663 terms. It has a mean month of 29.5305816... days. HELIOS CONTINUES: 1 term = 2665 / 3663 months = 8 / 11 months + 1 / 3663 months and noting that 1 / 11 = 333 / 3663 tells us that the elevenths part is incremented every 333 terms ( about 19.6 years ). KARL SAYS: I recall that Helios has previously suggested the idea of dividing each term into 8 cells (of 2 or 3 days) and counting 11 cells to each lunar month. 333 terms would then have 2664 cells. So this suggests having a 9-cell term once every 333 terms, to bring it up to 2665 cells. Suppose instead we have 9-cell term once every 334 terms. The 334 terms have 2673 cells, which is exactly 243 months and so it approximates 334 terms to 243 months. Seventeen of these 243-month cycles make a 334-year cycle of years and months. The complete cycle is 33*334=11022 years and has a mean month of 29.5306179... days. HELIOS CONTINUES: So I'll set the initial value of the Brown Lunation Number "L" for the first term L = 369 & 1522 / 3663 months and create the formula L = ( 2665*T + 1350504 )/ 3663 to give the Lunation Number for all terms thereafter KARL SAYS: This gives only an estimate of the lunation number and not the moon phase Karl 10(10(07 -- Scanned by iCritical. |
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Re: 3663 lunisolar year cycleOne more thing on this. By the parameters of the 3663y luni-solar cycle, which is 111 33y cycles, the mean year of the 11-year luni-solar cycle evidently drifts through the seasons every 2664 years.
Therefore = 1 drift cycle = 2664 solar years = 2665 luni-solar years ( 11y-cycle ) I have now made a web-page for the IM calender http://www.helios.netne.net/ivymike.htm |
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Re: 3663 lunisolar year cycleDear Helios and Calendar People
I recall responding to one of Helios's E-mails, by suggesting 11 cells (or 2 or 3 days each) in each lunar month and 136 cells in each year, but not counting every 2665th cell in the 136 cells of a year. Then 2664 years have 136 cells that are not counted making up a total of 2665*136 cells, which is 2665 years with all cells counted. Karl 10(10(29 -----Original Message----- From: East Carolina University Calendar discussion List [mailto:CALNDR-L@...] On Behalf Of Helios Sent: 20 July 2009 10:49 To: CALNDR-L@... Subject: Re: 3663 lunisolar year cycle One more thing on this. By the parameters of the 3663y luni-solar cycle, which is 111 33y cycles, the mean year of the 11-year luni-solar cycle evidently drifts through the seasons every 2664 years. Therefore = 1 drift cycle = 2664 solar years = 2665 luni-solar years ( 11y-cycle ) I have now made a web-page for the IM calender http://www.helios.netne.net/ivymike.htm -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/IVY-MIKE-CALENDAR-tp24214208p24566802.html Sent from the Calndr-L mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Scanned by iCritical. |
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30-year cycle drift cycle RE: 3663 lunisolar year cycleDear Helios and Calendar People
Helios has reckoned the drift cycle for a year of exactly 136/11 lunations, which arises from an 11-year cycle. This has got me thinking of the drift cycle for a year of exactly 371/30 lunations, which arises from a 30-year cycle. I then realised that a lunisolar cycle whose length is equal to one of these drift cycles would have 371 saltus lunae corrections. I list such cycles below: Years Leap Months Year/Month Years/Truncations 7679 2828 12.368277 365.667 (exactly 365 2/3) 7709 2839 12.368271 350.409 7739 2850 12.368265 336.478 7769 2861 12.368258 323.708 Note that the number of days in the cycle does not affect the number of saltus lunae, so is not shown or even calculated. I've shown the number of years per truncation of the 19-year cycle to 11 years to enable comparison with the 334-year and 353-year cycles. For a given mean month, the 7739-year cycle has a slightly longer mean year than the 334-year cycle and the 7709-year cycle has a slightly shorter mean year than the 353-year cycle. So if we use the 7709-year cycle as the drift cycle we have = 1 drift cycle = 7709 solar years = 7710 years of the 30-year cycle (of 371/30 lunations). This fits in with there being 7710*371/30 = 95347 = 12*7709 + 2839 lunar months in the cycle. A 30 year cycle can be generated by dividing each lunar month into 30 tithis and each year into 371 tithis. Each tithi can be set equal to a day except for six tithis every common year or five tithis every leap year, which have no duration (I expect Charles Moyer has been cleaning up after his most recent uruz bull sacrifice). This 30-year cycle is corrected by occasionally adding a tithi to a year, which gives rise to a saltus lunae. Then the number of 'leap' years (with five tithis of zero duration) needs to be reduced by the number of these saltus lunae corrections to become equal to the number of abundant years as in column C in my lunisolar spreadsheets http://www.the-light.com/cal/kp_Lunisolar_xls.html . Karl 10(11(01 -----Original Message----- From: East Carolina University Calendar discussion List [mailto:CALNDR-L@...] On Behalf Of Helios Sent: 20 July 2009 10:49 To: CALNDR-L@... Subject: Re: 3663 lunisolar year cycle One more thing on this. By the parameters of the 3663y luni-solar cycle, which is 111 33y cycles, the mean year of the 11-year luni-solar cycle evidently drifts through the seasons every 2664 years. Therefore = 1 drift cycle = 2664 solar years = 2665 luni-solar years ( 11y-cycle ) I have now made a web-page for the IM calender http://www.helios.netne.net/ivymike.htm -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/IVY-MIKE-CALENDAR-tp24214208p24566802.html Sent from the Calndr-L mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Scanned by iCritical. |
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