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Ibatis throttle - possible deadlock (ibatis 2.2, 2.3)All, I wanted to let you know my experience with this
issue. We saw the same issues and deadlocks that others have reported,
especially under heavy loads. As Clinton suggested, we looked to verify we were using the
proper transaction pattern (start, commit, end) in the right try…catch…finally
blocks. It was there that we noticed within the transaction block a bit
of code that took a lot of time to run and did not need to be in the
transaction block. Removing that code to outside the transaction and thus
tightening up the transaction block really helped. Just FYI in case
anyone else is seeing this issue. Regards, Eric |
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RE: Ibatis throttle - possible deadlock (ibatis 2.2, 2.3)Thanks Eric. If you’re seeing issues similar
to those Eric describes, also try building iBATIS from the trunk. It should
help draw out the problem because we’ve removed the object pools for sessions,
requests etc. So where you may have seen a deadlock before, now you should see
a big nasty exception from your app server that tells you that you’ve had a
connection open too long, or that you forgot to close a connection. Or perhaps
it will hang too, who knows. :-) I apologize for not getting a
release out yet. It’s simply a matter of finding the time in an insanely busy
year already! I’d suggest holding a vote for
which iBATIS developer should do the build, but I have a feeling I’d win (i.e.
lose). ;-) Cheers, Clinton From: Eric Floehr [mailto:Eric.Floehr@...] All, I wanted to let you know my experience with
this issue. We saw the same issues and deadlocks that others have
reported, especially under heavy loads. As Clinton suggested, we looked to verify
we were using the proper transaction pattern (start, commit, end) in the right
try…catch…finally blocks. It was there that we noticed within the
transaction block a bit of code that took a lot of time to run and did not need
to be in the transaction block. Removing that code to outside the
transaction and thus tightening up the transaction block really helped.
Just FYI in case anyone else is seeing this issue. Regards, Eric |
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Re: Ibatis throttle - possible deadlock (ibatis 2.2, 2.3)We just need to have an "iBATIS_Release_Bounty" paypal account that
people can use to *encourage* more frequent releases. ;-) Larry On Feb 5, 2008 9:24 AM, Clinton Begin <clinton.begin@...> wrote: > > > > > Thanks Eric. > > > > If you're seeing issues similar to those Eric describes, also try building > iBATIS from the trunk. It should help draw out the problem because we've > removed the object pools for sessions, requests etc. So where you may have > seen a deadlock before, now you should see a big nasty exception from your > app server that tells you that you've had a connection open too long, or > that you forgot to close a connection. Or perhaps it will hang too, who > knows. :-) > > > > I apologize for not getting a release out yet. It's simply a matter of > finding the time in an insanely busy year already! > > > > I'd suggest holding a vote for which iBATIS developer should do the build, > but I have a feeling I'd win (i.e. lose). ;-) > > > > Cheers, > > Clinton > > > > > > From: Eric Floehr [mailto:Eric.Floehr@...] > Sent: February-05-08 8:47 AM > To: user-java@... > Subject: Ibatis throttle - possible deadlock (ibatis 2.2, 2.3) > > > > > > All, > > > > I wanted to let you know my experience with this issue. We saw the same > issues and deadlocks that others have reported, especially under heavy > loads. > > > > As Clinton suggested, we looked to verify we were using the proper > transaction pattern (start, commit, end) in the right try…catch…finally > blocks. It was there that we noticed within the transaction block a bit of > code that took a lot of time to run and did not need to be in the > transaction block. Removing that code to outside the transaction and thus > tightening up the transaction block really helped. Just FYI in case anyone > else is seeing this issue. > > > > Regards, > > Eric > > |
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RE: Ibatis throttle - possible deadlock (ibatis 2.2, 2.3)LOL... that would be an excellent idea, if we weren't an Apache project.
Apache is a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization. Although, they could hire us as consultants to do the deploy for a service fee. But then we'd have to get out resumes, and they'd have to hire us. Maybe I'll just release this weekend for free. :-) Clinton -----Original Message----- From: larry.meadors@... [mailto:larry.meadors@...] On Behalf Of Larry Meadors Sent: February-05-08 11:18 AM To: user-java@... Subject: Re: Ibatis throttle - possible deadlock (ibatis 2.2, 2.3) We just need to have an "iBATIS_Release_Bounty" paypal account that people can use to *encourage* more frequent releases. ;-) Larry On Feb 5, 2008 9:24 AM, Clinton Begin <clinton.begin@...> wrote: > > > > > Thanks Eric. > > > > If you're seeing issues similar to those Eric describes, also try building > iBATIS from the trunk. It should help draw out the problem because we've > removed the object pools for sessions, requests etc. So where you may > seen a deadlock before, now you should see a big nasty exception from your > app server that tells you that you've had a connection open too long, or > that you forgot to close a connection. Or perhaps it will hang too, who > knows. :-) > > > > I apologize for not getting a release out yet. It's simply a matter of > finding the time in an insanely busy year already! > > > > I'd suggest holding a vote for which iBATIS developer should do the build, > but I have a feeling I'd win (i.e. lose). ;-) > > > > Cheers, > > Clinton > > > > > > From: Eric Floehr [mailto:Eric.Floehr@...] > Sent: February-05-08 8:47 AM > To: user-java@... > Subject: Ibatis throttle - possible deadlock (ibatis 2.2, 2.3) > > > > > > All, > > > > I wanted to let you know my experience with this issue. We saw the same > issues and deadlocks that others have reported, especially under heavy > loads. > > > > As Clinton suggested, we looked to verify we were using the proper > transaction pattern (start, commit, end) in the right try.catch.finally > blocks. It was there that we noticed within the transaction block a bit > code that took a lot of time to run and did not need to be in the > transaction block. Removing that code to outside the transaction and thus > tightening up the transaction block really helped. Just FYI in case anyone > else is seeing this issue. > > > > Regards, > > Eric > > |
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Re: Ibatis throttle - possible deadlock (ibatis 2.2, 2.3)What? Apache is non-profit...but I try not to be. ;-)
I'm not suggesting Apache pay us to do it, I'm suggesting that the people who need the release have 3 options: (1) wait, (2) roll their own, or (3) buy time from people who can deploy it (no Apache involvement). :-) Larry On Feb 5, 2008 1:33 PM, Clinton Begin <clinton.begin@...> wrote: > LOL... that would be an excellent idea, if we weren't an Apache project. > Apache is a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization. Although, they could hire us > as consultants to do the deploy for a service fee. But then we'd have to > get out resumes, and they'd have to hire us. > > Maybe I'll just release this weekend for free. :-) > > Clinton > > -----Original Message----- > From: larry.meadors@... [mailto:larry.meadors@...] On Behalf Of > Larry Meadors > Sent: February-05-08 11:18 AM > To: user-java@... > > Subject: Re: Ibatis throttle - possible deadlock (ibatis 2.2, 2.3) > > We just need to have an "iBATIS_Release_Bounty" paypal account that > people can use to *encourage* more frequent releases. ;-) > > Larry > > > On Feb 5, 2008 9:24 AM, Clinton Begin <clinton.begin@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Eric. > > > > > > > > If you're seeing issues similar to those Eric describes, also try building > > iBATIS from the trunk. It should help draw out the problem because we've > > removed the object pools for sessions, requests etc. So where you may > have > > seen a deadlock before, now you should see a big nasty exception from your > > app server that tells you that you've had a connection open too long, or > > that you forgot to close a connection. Or perhaps it will hang too, who > > knows. :-) > > > > > > > > I apologize for not getting a release out yet. It's simply a matter of > > finding the time in an insanely busy year already! > > > > > > > > I'd suggest holding a vote for which iBATIS developer should do the build, > > but I have a feeling I'd win (i.e. lose). ;-) > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > Clinton > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Eric Floehr [mailto:Eric.Floehr@...] > > Sent: February-05-08 8:47 AM > > To: user-java@... > > Subject: Ibatis throttle - possible deadlock (ibatis 2.2, 2.3) > > > > > > > > > > > > All, > > > > > > > > I wanted to let you know my experience with this issue. We saw the same > > issues and deadlocks that others have reported, especially under heavy > > loads. > > > > > > > > As Clinton suggested, we looked to verify we were using the proper > > transaction pattern (start, commit, end) in the right try.catch.finally > > blocks. It was there that we noticed within the transaction block a bit > of > > code that took a lot of time to run and did not need to be in the > > transaction block. Removing that code to outside the transaction and thus > > tightening up the transaction block really helped. Just FYI in case > anyone > > else is seeing this issue. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Eric > > > > > > |
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RE: Ibatis throttle - possible deadlock (ibatis 2.2, 2.3)LOL... dude, I was kidding!
I'll see if I can get it in this weekend. I've been running a facebook app off of the trunk for months now, so it's worthy. Clinton -----Original Message----- From: larry.meadors@... [mailto:larry.meadors@...] On Behalf Of Larry Meadors Sent: February-05-08 1:47 PM To: user-java@... Cc: Clinton Begin Subject: Re: Ibatis throttle - possible deadlock (ibatis 2.2, 2.3) What? Apache is non-profit...but I try not to be. ;-) I'm not suggesting Apache pay us to do it, I'm suggesting that the people who need the release have 3 options: (1) wait, (2) roll their own, or (3) buy time from people who can deploy it (no Apache involvement). :-) Larry On Feb 5, 2008 1:33 PM, Clinton Begin <clinton.begin@...> wrote: > LOL... that would be an excellent idea, if we weren't an Apache project. > Apache is a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization. Although, they could hire us > as consultants to do the deploy for a service fee. But then we'd have to > get out resumes, and they'd have to hire us. > > Maybe I'll just release this weekend for free. :-) > > Clinton > > -----Original Message----- > From: larry.meadors@... [mailto:larry.meadors@...] On Behalf Of > Larry Meadors > Sent: February-05-08 11:18 AM > To: user-java@... > > Subject: Re: Ibatis throttle - possible deadlock (ibatis 2.2, 2.3) > > We just need to have an "iBATIS_Release_Bounty" paypal account that > people can use to *encourage* more frequent releases. ;-) > > Larry > > > On Feb 5, 2008 9:24 AM, Clinton Begin <clinton.begin@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Eric. > > > > > > > > If you're seeing issues similar to those Eric describes, also try > > iBATIS from the trunk. It should help draw out the problem because we've > > removed the object pools for sessions, requests etc. So where you may > have > > seen a deadlock before, now you should see a big nasty exception from your > > app server that tells you that you've had a connection open too long, or > > that you forgot to close a connection. Or perhaps it will hang too, who > > knows. :-) > > > > > > > > I apologize for not getting a release out yet. It's simply a matter of > > finding the time in an insanely busy year already! > > > > > > > > I'd suggest holding a vote for which iBATIS developer should do the > > but I have a feeling I'd win (i.e. lose). ;-) > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > Clinton > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Eric Floehr [mailto:Eric.Floehr@...] > > Sent: February-05-08 8:47 AM > > To: user-java@... > > Subject: Ibatis throttle - possible deadlock (ibatis 2.2, 2.3) > > > > > > > > > > > > All, > > > > > > > > I wanted to let you know my experience with this issue. We saw the same > > issues and deadlocks that others have reported, especially under heavy > > loads. > > > > > > > > As Clinton suggested, we looked to verify we were using the proper > > transaction pattern (start, commit, end) in the right try.catch.finally > > blocks. It was there that we noticed within the transaction block a bit > of > > code that took a lot of time to run and did not need to be in the > > transaction block. Removing that code to outside the transaction and > > tightening up the transaction block really helped. Just FYI in case > anyone > > else is seeing this issue. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Eric > > > > > > |
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Consulting...Connection is invalid (still)Clinton, If you remember, I contacted you
in early 2008 regarding some “Connection is invalid” issues we were seeing.
First you recommended making sure in all transactions we were using the correct
try/except/finally pattern, which we did. Then using the latest version which
removed object pools, etc. Unfortunately, while the problem may have improved,
we are still seeing it on a couple of our most heavily loaded database
instances. We are using iBatis 2.3.4.726,
and it’s definitely related to load. On our more lightly instances we never
see it, but on a few that are heavily used we see it much more frequently. The
stack trace is: --- Cause:
java.lang.RuntimeException: Error accessing SimplePooledConnection. Connection
is invalid. at
com.ibatis.sqlmap.engine.mapping.statement.MappedStatement.executeUpdate(MappedStatement.java:110) at
com.ibatis.sqlmap.engine.impl.SqlMapExecutorDelegate.update(SqlMapExecutorDelegate.java:457) at
com.ibatis.sqlmap.engine.impl.SqlMapSessionImpl.update(SqlMapSessionImpl.java:90) at
com.ibatis.sqlmap.engine.impl.SqlMapClientImpl.update(SqlMapClientImpl.java:66) ...our code... Caused by:
java.lang.RuntimeException: Error accessing SimplePooledConnection. Connection
is invalid. at
com.ibatis.common.jdbc.SimpleDataSource$SimplePooledConnection.getValidConnection(SimpleDataSource.java:913) at
com.ibatis.common.jdbc.SimpleDataSource$SimplePooledConnection.invoke(SimpleDataSource.java:958) at $Proxy0.prepareStatement(Unknown
Source) at
com.ibatis.sqlmap.engine.execution.SqlExecutor.prepareStatement(SqlExecutor.java:497) at
com.ibatis.sqlmap.engine.execution.SqlExecutor.executeUpdate(SqlExecutor.java:75) at
com.ibatis.sqlmap.engine.mapping.statement.MappedStatement.sqlExecuteUpdate(MappedStatement.java:216) at
com.ibatis.sqlmap.engine.mapping.statement.MappedStatement.executeUpdate(MappedStatement.java:94) ... 28 more I was wondering if you have any
expertise in troubleshooting such a tough problem, and if so, if you are
available for some consulting to help resolve. I think we’ve eliminated all
the easy causes, and would like some guidance as to putting in hooks or statements
to help narrow down the root cause. If you are not available, do you know
anyone you can recommend who could? Thanks so much for any help you
can provide! Best Regards, Eric From: Clinton Begin
[mailto:clinton.begin@...] Thanks Eric. If you’re seeing
issues similar to those Eric describes, also try building iBATIS from the
trunk. It should help draw out the problem because we’ve removed the
object pools for sessions, requests etc. So where you may have seen a
deadlock before, now you should see a big nasty exception from your app server
that tells you that you’ve had a connection open too long, or that you forgot
to close a connection. Or perhaps it will hang too, who knows. :-) I apologize for not
getting a release out yet. It’s simply a matter of finding the time in an
insanely busy year already! I’d suggest holding a
vote for which iBATIS developer should do the build, but I have a feeling I’d
win (i.e. lose). ;-) Cheers, Clinton From: Eric Floehr
[mailto:Eric.Floehr@...] All, I wanted to let you know my experience with this
issue. We saw the same issues and deadlocks that others have reported,
especially under heavy loads. As Clinton suggested, we looked to verify we were using the
proper transaction pattern (start, commit, end) in the right try…catch…finally
blocks. It was there that we noticed within the transaction block a bit
of code that took a lot of time to run and did not need to be in the
transaction block. Removing that code to outside the transaction and thus
tightening up the transaction block really helped. Just FYI in case
anyone else is seeing this issue. Regards, Eric |
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