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by Frank Marchak :: Rate this Message:

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Food Pyramid versus MyPlate

Greetings.

The United States Department of Agriculture has replaced the Food Pyramid used to guide healthy food choices with MyPlate (www.choosemyplate.gov).

While some criticisms of the original pyramid still remain with the new design (e.g., presented only in English, takes no account of level of exercise), this is the first change since the pyramid replaced an equal quadrant square graphic developed in the 1980s.

I have my own opinions of the new approach, but wanted to query the café to get the views of other members. Does this design present a less complicated approach that can be understood by a wider audience? Can people more readily comprehend a pie chart approach versus a pyramidal representation? Does the plate better reflect new findings in nutrition (e.g., perhaps carbohydrates should not form the base of a balanced diet)? Are circles better received than triangles?

Thoughts?

Regards,

Frank

--------------------------------------

Frank M. Marchak, Ph.D.

Veridical Research and Design Corporation

211 West Main Street - Lower Level

PO Box 6503

Bozeman, MT 59771-6503 USA

406.522.9045 : tel

406.522.9048 : fax

406.581.0870 : cel

www.vradc.com


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Re: InfoD-Cafe: Food Pyramid versus MyPlate

by Rob Waller-2 :: Rate this Message:

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This looks to me like a very interesting design and I'll seek out the research that no doubt lies behind it. I am impressed that something as simple as this has been negotiated, as it is fairly memorable and also simple enough to be reproduced on food packaging and menus. I can also see it's potential power as a template against which to compare your actual plate, and I can see it used for nutrition education - actual plates can be judged against it, card sorts used and meals planned. 

I believe people are pretty attuned to comparing portions of a circle (trained as children to monitor the fair slicing of cakes), whereas pyramids involve comparing different sizes and shapes. Pyramids also have the inherent problem of unreliable symbolism. Although they are intended to reflect different proportions, so less necessary foods are at the top, in other circumstances the top signifies high attainment - self-fulfillment in Maslow, the winner's podium... and of course the foods at the bottom are peasant fare, while the sugar, cream and chocolate at the top is the food of kings. No data, just conjecture.

In terms of what the proportions should actually be, that's down to the nutritionists to debate. Some issues that occur to me are:

- I was interested to see how dairy is treated as a side dish or drink, which may be how it comes in the form of milk, yogurt or ice cream, but people may have a problem knowing where cheese fits in. Gastronomically it is probably seen as part of the protein component in a meal.

- I wonder why fruit is not similarly treated. Including it on the main plate reduces the power of the plate as a template. 

- I wonder where potatoes fit in (vegetable? or playing the same gastronomic role as pasta or rice which are from grains?). Perhaps it is different the USA but in the UK I don't think 'grains' would be accurately understood.

But it's important not to be too picky about simplified solutions, if they do a good job in moving people in the right direction. The UK's five-a-day campaign (refers to portions of fruit or veg) has caught on well and entered into the public consciousness, although I don't what actual effect on consumption has resulted.

I was involved with the development of the UK's national food guide in the early 90s. A pyramid was compared with a plate, and no significant difference in comprehension was found in a fairly comprehensive task-based study involving over 2000 participants. A plate was chosen based on a marginal preference rather than performance.

The design we used (the result of extensive negotations involving health professionals, designers, government and the food industry, rather than an  inspired creative process) was extremely detailed in its portrayal of food, and was very compromised by political lobbying by the food industry. In particular, fatty/sugary snacks were heavily defended and so included in what purports to show a healthy diet. 

The UK's plate was poorly promoted, did not catch on widely, and has now virtually disappeared from view. Google struggled to find any trace, except for this website: http://www.bdaweightwise.com/eating/eating_diet.html
and some journal articles such as this one: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17539873


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Rob Waller 
The Simplification Centre

07850 665933
rob.waller@...
www.simplificationcentre.org.uk



On 3 Jun 2011, at 04:15, Frank Marchak wrote:

Greetings.

The United States Department of Agriculture has replaced the Food Pyramid used to guide healthy food choices with MyPlate (www.choosemyplate.gov).

While some criticisms of the original pyramid still remain with the new design (e.g., presented only in English, takes no account of level of exercise), this is the first change since the pyramid replaced an equal quadrant square graphic developed in the 1980s.

I have my own opinions of the new approach, but wanted to query the café to get the views of other members. Does this design present a less complicated approach that can be understood by a wider audience? Can people more readily comprehend a pie chart approach versus a pyramidal representation? Does the plate better reflect new findings in nutrition (e.g., perhaps carbohydrates should not form the base of a balanced diet)? Are circles better received than triangles?


Thoughts?

Regards,

Frank

--------------------------------------

Frank M. Marchak, Ph.D.

Veridical Research and Design Corporation

211 West Main Street - Lower Level

PO Box 6503

Bozeman, MT 59771-6503 USA

406.522.9045 : tel

406.522.9048 : fax

406.581.0870 : cel

www.vradc.com



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Re: InfoD-Cafe: Food Pyramid versus MyPlate

by Jose Marconi Bezerra de Souza :: Rate this Message:

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Frank,

You should contact Isabel Meirelles (she might be reading us), her presentation "Health Information: A Critique of the US 2005 Food Pyramid Graphic”
(Information Design Conference 2007. Organized by the UK Information Design Association. London, March 29–30)
will be useful.

Visit Isabel´s web site http://isabelmeirelles.com/?page_id=2

José.



On 3 June 2011 00:15, Frank Marchak <fmarchak@...> wrote:

Greetings.

The United States Department of Agriculture has replaced the Food Pyramid used to guide healthy food choices with MyPlate (www.choosemyplate.gov).

While some criticisms of the original pyramid still remain with the new design (e.g., presented only in English, takes no account of level of exercise), this is the first change since the pyramid replaced an equal quadrant square graphic developed in the 1980s.

I have my own opinions of the new approach, but wanted to query the café to get the views of other members. Does this design present a less complicated approach that can be understood by a wider audience? Can people more readily comprehend a pie chart approach versus a pyramidal representation? Does the plate better reflect new findings in nutrition (e.g., perhaps carbohydrates should not form the base of a balanced diet)? Are circles better received than triangles?

Thoughts?

Regards,

Frank

--------------------------------------

Frank M. Marchak, Ph.D.

Veridical Research and Design Corporation

211 West Main Street - Lower Level

PO Box 6503

Bozeman, MT 59771-6503 USA

406.522.9045 : tel

406.522.9048 : fax

406.581.0870 : cel

www.vradc.com


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Consultor em design da informação e professor do Mestrado e Graduação de Design da UFPR
Information design consultant  and university lecturer (Brazil)
PhD
- Department of Typography & Graphic Communication, The University of Reading (UK, 2008)
Master of Arts - Department of Three-Dimensional Design, The Birmingham City University (UK, 1992)


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Re: InfoD-Cafe: Food Pyramid versus MyPlate

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Dear all.

If I understand it correctly a pyramid has been used in USA to visualize the proportion of a standard meal.

Now these days a plate is used instead of the pyramid.

 

I totally agree with Rob Waller.

The plate-model  requires  probably less cognitive efforts, since we are used to read circle diagrams.

Furthermore, the plate has a iconic similarity to how it really looks at our dinner table.   

 

In Sweden the plate-model has been used for ages. And it has a variety of “looks”.

The major difference is actually the content. We do not separate vegetables and fruit.

 

I think the plate-model would be easier to interpret if symbols/images of foods where combined with text.

And I wonder, just as Rob mentioned, where does potatoes fit in?

Dairy is a great thing to have in the plate-model. We do not have that in Sweden.

It may be because it is called the Pate-model.

 

In this link you may see the plate-model presented by FDA in Sweden.  

http://www.slv.se/sv/grupp1/Mat-och-naring/Matcirkeln-och-tallriksmoddellen/Tallriksmodellen/

 

All the best

Carina

 

 

PhD, Senior Lecture

Carina Andersson

School of Innovation, Design and Engineering

Mälardalen University

Box 325

631 05 Eskilstuna

Sweden

 

Tfn. arb. +46 16 15 36 89

Tfn. mob. +46  700 91 1234

 

 

 

 

Från: infodesign-cafe-bounces@... [mailto:infodesign-cafe-bounces@...] För Rob Waller
Skickat: den 3 juni 2011 11:16
Till: Discussions about information design
Ämne: Re: InfoD-Cafe: Food Pyramid versus MyPlate

 

This looks to me like a very interesting design and I'll seek out the research that no doubt lies behind it. I am impressed that something as simple as this has been negotiated, as it is fairly memorable and also simple enough to be reproduced on food packaging and menus. I can also see it's potential power as a template against which to compare your actual plate, and I can see it used for nutrition education - actual plates can be judged against it, card sorts used and meals planned. 

 

I believe people are pretty attuned to comparing portions of a circle (trained as children to monitor the fair slicing of cakes), whereas pyramids involve comparing different sizes and shapes. Pyramids also have the inherent problem of unreliable symbolism. Although they are intended to reflect different proportions, so less necessary foods are at the top, in other circumstances the top signifies high attainment - self-fulfillment in Maslow, the winner's podium... and of course the foods at the bottom are peasant fare, while the sugar, cream and chocolate at the top is the food of kings. No data, just conjecture.

 

In terms of what the proportions should actually be, that's down to the nutritionists to debate. Some issues that occur to me are:

 

- I was interested to see how dairy is treated as a side dish or drink, which may be how it comes in the form of milk, yogurt or ice cream, but people may have a problem knowing where cheese fits in. Gastronomically it is probably seen as part of the protein component in a meal.

 

- I wonder why fruit is not similarly treated. Including it on the main plate reduces the power of the plate as a template. 

 

- I wonder where potatoes fit in (vegetable? or playing the same gastronomic role as pasta or rice which are from grains?). Perhaps it is different the USA but in the UK I don't think 'grains' would be accurately understood.

 

But it's important not to be too picky about simplified solutions, if they do a good job in moving people in the right direction. The UK's five-a-day campaign (refers to portions of fruit or veg) has caught on well and entered into the public consciousness, although I don't what actual effect on consumption has resulted.

 

I was involved with the development of the UK's national food guide in the early 90s. A pyramid was compared with a plate, and no significant difference in comprehension was found in a fairly comprehensive task-based study involving over 2000 participants. A plate was chosen based on a marginal preference rather than performance.

 

The design we used (the result of extensive negotations involving health professionals, designers, government and the food industry, rather than an  inspired creative process) was extremely detailed in its portrayal of food, and was very compromised by political lobbying by the food industry. In particular, fatty/sugary snacks were heavily defended and so included in what purports to show a healthy diet. 

 

The UK's plate was poorly promoted, did not catch on widely, and has now virtually disappeared from view. Google struggled to find any trace, except for this website: http://www.bdaweightwise.com/eating/eating_diet.html

and some journal articles such as this one: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17539873

 

 

__________________________________

Rob Waller 
The Simplification Centre

07850 665933
rob.waller@...
www.simplificationcentre.org.uk

 

On 3 Jun 2011, at 04:15, Frank Marchak wrote:



Greetings.

The United States Department of Agriculture has replaced the Food Pyramid – used to guide healthy food choices – with MyPlate (www.choosemyplate.gov).

While some criticisms of the original pyramid still remain with the new design (e.g., presented only in English, takes no account of level of exercise), this is the first change since the pyramid replaced an equal quadrant square graphic developed in the 1980s.

I have my own opinions of the new approach, but wanted to query the café to get the views of other members. Does this design present a less complicated approach that can be understood by a wider audience? Can people more readily comprehend a pie chart approach versus a pyramidal representation? Does the plate better reflect new findings in nutrition (e.g., perhaps carbohydrates should not form the base of a balanced diet)? Are circles better received than triangles?

 

Thoughts?

Regards,

Frank

--------------------------------------

Frank M. Marchak, Ph.D.

Veridical Research and Design Corporation

211 West Main Street - Lower Level

PO Box 6503

Bozeman, MT 59771-6503 USA

406.522.9045 : tel

406.522.9048 : fax

406.581.0870 : cel

www.vradc.com

 

 

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Re: InfoD-Cafe: Food Pyramid versus MyPlate

by Jose Marconi Bezerra de Souza :: Rate this Message:

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Dear all,


I found Isabel´s article link
Visual Representations of Health Information: A Critique of the 2005 Food Pyramid. American Communication Journal, vol. 10, Special Issue 2008: Aesthetics in an Experimental Age. American Communication Association. Guest editor: S. H. Grey. Lead Author, written in collaboration with C. Noland, Health Communication (75% my work).


José.

On 3 June 2011 07:10, Carina Andersson <carina.andersson@...> wrote:

Dear all.

If I understand it correctly a pyramid has been used in USA to visualize the proportion of a standard meal.

Now these days a plate is used instead of the pyramid.

 

I totally agree with Rob Waller.

The plate-model  requires  probably less cognitive efforts, since we are used to read circle diagrams.

Furthermore, the plate has a iconic similarity to how it really looks at our dinner table.   

 

In Sweden the plate-model has been used for ages. And it has a variety of “looks”.

The major difference is actually the content. We do not separate vegetables and fruit.

 

I think the plate-model would be easier to interpret if symbols/images of foods where combined with text.

And I wonder, just as Rob mentioned, where does potatoes fit in?

Dairy is a great thing to have in the plate-model. We do not have that in Sweden.

It may be because it is called the Pate-model.

 

In this link you may see the plate-model presented by FDA in Sweden.  

http://www.slv.se/sv/grupp1/Mat-och-naring/Matcirkeln-och-tallriksmoddellen/Tallriksmodellen/

 

All the best

Carina

 

 

PhD, Senior Lecture

Carina Andersson

School of Innovation, Design and Engineering

Mälardalen University

Box 325

631 05 Eskilstuna

Sweden

 

Tfn. arb. +46 16 15 36 89

Tfn. mob. +46  700 91 1234

 

 

 

 

Från: infodesign-cafe-bounces@... [mailto:infodesign-cafe-bounces@...] För Rob Waller
Skickat: den 3 juni 2011 11:16
Till: Discussions about information design
Ämne: Re: InfoD-Cafe: Food Pyramid versus MyPlate

 

This looks to me like a very interesting design and I'll seek out the research that no doubt lies behind it. I am impressed that something as simple as this has been negotiated, as it is fairly memorable and also simple enough to be reproduced on food packaging and menus. I can also see it's potential power as a template against which to compare your actual plate, and I can see it used for nutrition education - actual plates can be judged against it, card sorts used and meals planned. 

 

I believe people are pretty attuned to comparing portions of a circle (trained as children to monitor the fair slicing of cakes), whereas pyramids involve comparing different sizes and shapes. Pyramids also have the inherent problem of unreliable symbolism. Although they are intended to reflect different proportions, so less necessary foods are at the top, in other circumstances the top signifies high attainment - self-fulfillment in Maslow, the winner's podium... and of course the foods at the bottom are peasant fare, while the sugar, cream and chocolate at the top is the food of kings. No data, just conjecture.

 

In terms of what the proportions should actually be, that's down to the nutritionists to debate. Some issues that occur to me are:

 

- I was interested to see how dairy is treated as a side dish or drink, which may be how it comes in the form of milk, yogurt or ice cream, but people may have a problem knowing where cheese fits in. Gastronomically it is probably seen as part of the protein component in a meal.

 

- I wonder why fruit is not similarly treated. Including it on the main plate reduces the power of the plate as a template. 

 

- I wonder where potatoes fit in (vegetable? or playing the same gastronomic role as pasta or rice which are from grains?). Perhaps it is different the USA but in the UK I don't think 'grains' would be accurately understood.

 

But it's important not to be too picky about simplified solutions, if they do a good job in moving people in the right direction. The UK's five-a-day campaign (refers to portions of fruit or veg) has caught on well and entered into the public consciousness, although I don't what actual effect on consumption has resulted.

 

I was involved with the development of the UK's national food guide in the early 90s. A pyramid was compared with a plate, and no significant difference in comprehension was found in a fairly comprehensive task-based study involving over 2000 participants. A plate was chosen based on a marginal preference rather than performance.

 

The design we used (the result of extensive negotations involving health professionals, designers, government and the food industry, rather than an  inspired creative process) was extremely detailed in its portrayal of food, and was very compromised by political lobbying by the food industry. In particular, fatty/sugary snacks were heavily defended and so included in what purports to show a healthy diet. 

 

The UK's plate was poorly promoted, did not catch on widely, and has now virtually disappeared from view. Google struggled to find any trace, except for this website: http://www.bdaweightwise.com/eating/eating_diet.html

and some journal articles such as this one: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17539873

 

 

__________________________________

Rob Waller 
The Simplification Centre

07850 665933
rob.waller@...
www.simplificationcentre.org.uk

 

On 3 Jun 2011, at 04:15, Frank Marchak wrote:



Greetings.

The United States Department of Agriculture has replaced the Food Pyramid – used to guide healthy food choices – with MyPlate (www.choosemyplate.gov).

While some criticisms of the original pyramid still remain with the new design (e.g., presented only in English, takes no account of level of exercise), this is the first change since the pyramid replaced an equal quadrant square graphic developed in the 1980s.

I have my own opinions of the new approach, but wanted to query the café to get the views of other members. Does this design present a less complicated approach that can be understood by a wider audience? Can people more readily comprehend a pie chart approach versus a pyramidal representation? Does the plate better reflect new findings in nutrition (e.g., perhaps carbohydrates should not form the base of a balanced diet)? Are circles better received than triangles?

 

Thoughts?

Regards,

Frank

--------------------------------------

Frank M. Marchak, Ph.D.

Veridical Research and Design Corporation

211 West Main Street - Lower Level

PO Box 6503

Bozeman, MT 59771-6503 USA

406.522.9045 : tel

406.522.9048 : fax

406.581.0870 : cel

www.vradc.com

 

 

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José Marconi Bezerra de Souza (PhD, 2008)
Consultor em design da informação e professor do Mestrado e Graduação de Design da UFPR
Information design consultant  and university lecturer (Brazil)
PhD
- Department of Typography & Graphic Communication, The University of Reading (UK, 2008)
Master of Arts - Department of Three-Dimensional Design, The Birmingham City University (UK, 1992)


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