Information required, what is the state of the source code in Bazaar? Can this source be built into new packages? why do we not have release cycles?

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Information required, what is the state of the source code in Bazaar? Can this source be built into new packages? why do we not have release cycles?

by Adam Horden :: Rate this Message:

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Hi All,


You all might know or not know that I have been packaging the mspgcc
project for Ubuntu over the past few months. The packages I created work
fine on Ubuntu 9.04 (Jaunty Jackalope) but fail to build for Ubuntu 9.10
(Karmic Koala).

https://launchpad.net/~adamhorden/+archive/msp430


I have hit a brick wall for now as I built these packages by creating a
patch from the files in CVS and the relevant upstream source. In CVS we
use GCC 3.4. This has now been dropped in Ubuntu 9.10 (Karmic Koala).
This is where I noticed some discussion here over source code in Bazaar.
Last night I checked this out and I could compile a package fine for
Karmic using any gcc version. So I now have a list of questions, and as
packager I can rebuild my packages with the new source in Bazaar as well
as keeping the current packages created from source in CVS:

1.) Having a bit of confusion at the moment with the mspgcc project. I
built the packages by creating a patch of the files that are currently
in CVS against the relevant upstream source. I did not look at the new
code in Bazaar originally until yesterday. My Karmic packages fail to
build as the CVS files depend on GCC 3.3 and that has now been dropped
unless I back port it and I do not want to do that. I did a test with
the stuff in Bazaar and it works fine on Karmic, problem is what is the
state of the source in Bazaar? but from my testing it would work well
for development packages possibility built each day automatically for
Karmic and I can modify my build system to get code from Bazaar and
create packages. It seems more stable and can be built with any GCC
version. But there is very little documentation about what should be
used and what patches should be applied.


2.) My second problem is I need a list of all devices that are supported
at the moment for the CVS source and Bazaar source and I have been
looking through the source but it does not give me much clues.

My build system builds patches that could be used in any package. Not
just Ubuntu.

3.) Why do we not have regular releases? Rob Spanton seems to agree we
both need to push for mspgcc to have a regular release cycle. This way
we can get the changes upstream.

Thanks,

Adam Horden



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Re: Information required, what is the state of the source code in Bazaar? Can this source be built into new packages? why do we not have release cycles?

by Robert Spanton-4 :: Rate this Message:

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Hi Adam,

On Mon, 2009-11-02 at 21:37 +0000, Adam Horden wrote:
> 2.) My second problem is I need a list of all devices that are
> supported at the moment for the CVS source and Bazaar source and I
> have been looking through the source but it does not give me much
> clues.

`msp430-as --help` will output a list of targets supported by the
assembler.  Maybe that'll help you.

> 3.) Why do we not have regular releases? Rob Spanton seems to agree we
> both need to push for mspgcc to have a regular release cycle. This way
> we can get the changes upstream.

It would be good to at least have releases of the C library, so that
there's a clear message to us packagers about when we should update the
packages.

Since the GCC and GDB stuff will one day be merged into mainline, their
regular release is not quite as important.  However, as Adam said, it
has been fairly unclear what should be shipped out in packages.
Updating the packages on every commit to CVS/BZR/whatever doesn't sound
like the best option, as I'm sure there are some commits that break
stuff from time to time.

Cheers,

Rob


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Re: Information required, what is the state of the source code in Bazaar? Can this source be built into new packages? why do we not have release cycles?

by Grant Edwards-6 :: Rate this Message:

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On 2009-11-03, Robert Spanton <rspanton@...> wrote:

> Since the GCC and GDB stuff will one day be merged into
> mainline,

Are there actually real plans/expectations for that to happen?

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