Inkscape 0.47 on the horizon (Call for help)

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Inkscape 0.47 on the horizon (Call for help)

by Joshua A. Andler-2 :: Rate this Message:

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Hey All,

I think we closed out the last of the blocker bugs today!

So, will people please help ensure that the release notes are up to
date? I'm headed there in just a minute to document my latest changes.
http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Release_notes/0.47

Regarding PR, I am going to continue with what was started here:
http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/AnnouncePlanning047
If you are an inkscape user who wants to contribute, even if you can't
program, this is the perfect way to give back to the community. Please
help us flesh this out and refine it.

Packagers, please package up Pre3 if you have not already done so as a
practice run... and honestly, I think it would be safe to plan a release
for next week (between Monday the 5th and Friday the 9th), provided
packages are available and no new issues arise.

Any objections to this proposed plan? Any thoughts on if releasing on a
specific day of the week will get more notice?

Cheers,
Josh




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Re: Inkscape 0.47 on the horizon (Call for help)

by Jon Cruz :: Rate this Message:

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On Sep 27, 2009, at 3:42 PM, Joshua A. Andler wrote:

So, will people please help ensure that the release notes are up to
date? I'm headed there in just a minute to document my latest changes.
http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Release_notes/0.47

I also have started the page for the next release:


I'm doing a pass through the 0.47 page and moving things that were not quite finished on over to the new 0.48 page. Also if people have new things that come up, the 0.48 page is the place for them. Once we hit the main announcement, I'll update the wiki main page to link also to the 0.48 release notes.

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Parent Message unknown Re: Multipage support

by Joshua A. Andler-2 :: Rate this Message:

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Hello,

As of this time, no one that I am aware of is actively working on
multipage support. Unless someone surprises us after 0.47 is released, I
wouldn't expect it to be worked on until 0.49 at the soonest, and even
this is dependent on someone really having an itch to scratch to get it
implemented. Sorry that I can't give any real estimate on it, but that's
just due to not knowing of anyone working on it (or planning to).

Perhaps we could suggest it as a summer of code project for a student or
two to work on next year (provided that Google does SoC again and that
we're accepted).

Cheers,
Josh


On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 11:05 +1000, Philip Rhoades wrote:
> People,
>
>  From the Inkscape Wiki pages it looks like implementing multipage
> support is a major undertaking - is there any rough estimate on when
> this will be attempted?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Phil.



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Re: Multipage support

by Krzysztof Kosiński :: Rate this Message:

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> Perhaps we could suggest it as a summer of code project for a student or
> two to work on next year (provided that Google does SoC again and that
> we're accepted).
>
> Cheers,
> Josh

We should first think about how to do it :)

- numerical page field near the layer selector in the status bar which
is hidden / inactive when the document has only 1 page
- additional dialog that displays page thumbnails in a fashion similar
to OO.o Impress or Evince side bar as well as page names
- when saving formats which are not multipage capable we save them as
a ZIP archive (+ extension to open archives as multipage documents)
- multipage documents must give a choice of being opened in entirety,
or a subset of pages
- please no bottom tabs like in Corel Draw or Excel because it doesn't
scale at all
- before we do this the extension system and some of the SP tree
(especially SPDocument) must be refactored

Regards, Krzysztof

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Re: Multipage support

by Jon Cruz :: Rate this Message:

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On Sep 27, 2009, at 7:00 PM, Krzysztof Kosiński wrote:

>> Perhaps we could suggest it as a summer of code project for a  
>> student or
>> two to work on next year (provided that Google does SoC again and  
>> that
>> we're accepted).
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Josh
>
> We should first think about how to do it :)

Yes. Very much so.

I think before we focus on the details of *how* to implement, we first  
need to look at *what* we should be implementing.

"Multipage" can mean a few things. First is print work to go on  
multiple sheets of the same paper. An additional one, however, is  
animation. To many people (like classic animators) that is considered  
somewhat multipage. Also... despite probably needing to show up in the  
UI differently, we probably would want to structure some internals  
almost identically.

Do we also need to consider "N-Up" printing? Mail-merge badges? Hmm....
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Re: Multipage support

by Joshua A. Andler-2 :: Rate this Message:

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On Sun, 2009-09-27 at 19:13 -0700, Jon A. Cruz wrote:
> On Sep 27, 2009, at 7:00 PM, Krzysztof Kosiński wrote:
> > We should first think about how to do it :)
>
> Do we also need to consider "N-Up" printing? Mail-merge badges? Hmm....

If we do things properly, isn't N-Up left to the printing system (and
drivers on Win32 I would guess) of the OS?

Mail-merge support would be phenomenal imho.

Cheers,
Josh


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Re: Multipage support

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I have a real use case!

I am working on a stickers album. It has around 20 pages. In each pair of pages I want to have a single picture in the whole backgroud. So, I have several SVGs, such as pages1and2.svg pages3and4.svg, and so on.

When printing, though, I need to export the pages as they will be printed on paper. That means, half of the paper will have page 1 and the other half will have the last page.

This seems to be a common case for magazines and most of the multipage content for printing.


Another issue is that very often, pages have a common base layout (such as decorative margins, headers and page numbers). It would be awesome if we could provide a templating system (based on clones, perhaps?) for that.

Felipe "Juca" Sanches

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Re: Multipage support

by Alexandre Prokoudine :: Rate this Message:

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On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 7:06 AM, Felipe Sanches wrote:

> I am working on a stickers album. It has around 20 pages. In each pair of
> pages I want to have a single picture in the whole backgroud. So, I have
> several SVGs, such as pages1and2.svg pages3and4.svg, and so on.
>
> When printing, though, I need to export the pages as they will be printed on
> paper. That means, half of the paper will have page 1 and the other half
> will have the last page.

Just use master pages in Scribus, eh? :)

Alexandre

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Re: Multipage support

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Hello,

multipage !

I prepared a wikipage about that. Showing the different options.
pls also support this page with your information.

Also there is a launchpad blueprint that links to the wiki.

I do a lot of technical drawings and the C0rel Way fits for me perfectly.

I would like multipage more sooner than later but if we do a 0.48
quickly then it will not happen. Will it?

Thx, Adib.
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On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine
<alexandre.prokoudine@...> wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 7:06 AM, Felipe Sanches wrote:
>
>> I am working on a stickers album. It has around 20 pages. In each pair of
>> pages I want to have a single picture in the whole backgroud. So, I have
>> several SVGs, such as pages1and2.svg pages3and4.svg, and so on.
>>
>> When printing, though, I need to export the pages as they will be printed on
>> paper. That means, half of the paper will have page 1 and the other half
>> will have the last page.
>
> Just use master pages in Scribus, eh? :)
>
> Alexandre
>
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Re: Multipage support

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the wiki page is http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Multipage


On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 12:44 PM, the Adib <theadib@...> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> multipage !
>
> I prepared a wikipage about that. Showing the different options.
> pls also support this page with your information.
>
> Also there is a launchpad blueprint that links to the wiki.
>
> I do a lot of technical drawings and the C0rel Way fits for me perfectly.
>
> I would like multipage more sooner than later but if we do a 0.48
> quickly then it will not happen. Will it?
>
> Thx, Adib.
> ---
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine
> <alexandre.prokoudine@...> wrote:
>> On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 7:06 AM, Felipe Sanches wrote:
>>
>>> I am working on a stickers album. It has around 20 pages. In each pair of
>>> pages I want to have a single picture in the whole backgroud. So, I have
>>> several SVGs, such as pages1and2.svg pages3and4.svg, and so on.
>>>
>>> When printing, though, I need to export the pages as they will be printed on
>>> paper. That means, half of the paper will have page 1 and the other half
>>> will have the last page.
>>
>> Just use master pages in Scribus, eh? :)
>>
>> Alexandre
>>
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Re: Multipage support

by Alexandre Prokoudine :: Rate this Message:

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On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 2:44 PM, the Adib wrote:

> I would like multipage more sooner than later but if we do a 0.48
> quickly then it will not happen. Will it?

How can it possibly be in 0.48 when we don't even have a single patch? :)

Alexandre

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Re: Inkscape 0.47 on the horizon (Call for help)

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On 28/9/09 00:42, Joshua A. Andler wrote:

> Packagers, please package up Pre3 if you have not already done so as a
> practice run... and honestly, I think it would be safe to plan a release
> for next week (between Monday the 5th and Friday the 9th), provided
> packages are available and no new issues arise.

Do you have any news about the state of OS X 10.4 Tiger builds since
0.47pre1?

There has been one tiger-specific bug reported with 0.47pre1 that
unfortunately didn't get much attention, but IMHO impacts its usability:
Not only the integration with the system clipboard (i.e. X11) is
reported broken - the internal clipboard seems limited to bitmap copies
only.

This issue looks unrelated to the known clipboard bug on Leopard+ which
only happens with recent X11/XQuartz versions >= 2.3.2 (bug #307005).

OS X Tiger uses an ancient version of Apple's X11 (1.1.3, based on
XFree86 4.4.0). I could not find any hints whether the new system
clipboard integration code was ever tested in Tiger development builds.

Bug #396754 “Erratic copy/paste in OSX 10.4 0.47pre1”:
<https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/396754>

earlier posting on the mailing list:
<http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.graphics.inkscape.devel/30621/focus=30678>

Are the plans to fully support OS X Tiger still current?

~suv

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Re: Inkscape 0.47 on the horizon (Call for help)

by Joshua A. Andler-2 :: Rate this Message:

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On Sat, 2009-10-03 at 09:20 +0200, ~suv wrote:
> On 28/9/09 00:42, Joshua A. Andler wrote:
>
> > Packagers, please package up Pre3 if you have not already done so as a
> > practice run... and honestly, I think it would be safe to plan a release
> > for next week (between Monday the 5th and Friday the 9th), provided
> > packages are available and no new issues arise.
>
> Do you have any news about the state of OS X 10.4 Tiger builds since
> 0.47pre1?

I've got nothing on Tiger builds... Anyone care to step up?

This is just like 7z, exe, deb, rpm, etc... we have volunteers to help
with them and if there is no one to fill the void, well, it's like being
a slackware user. ;)

Cheers,
Josh


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Re: Inkscape 0.47 on the horizon (Call for help)

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On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 09:20, ~suv <suv-sf@...> wrote:
> Are the plans to fully support OS X Tiger still current?

Ash Josh said, this is a matter of having someone to compile on Tiger.
I have no resources around to do it. Before leaving, Michael told me
he might be able to do it but it will probably be for the release
version only. I thought this bug was related to the other one you
mention. If there is something specific to fix for Tiger, then I hope
Michael will have enough time and 0.47.1 will be available for Tiger.
Otherwise it will indeed stay unsupported.
As an indication, Tiger is still representing 20 to 40% of the Mac user base.

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