Installing Knop on CentOS 5.x Error

[Steve Piercy]

I get a critical error:

Message:  Error loading on-demand library ///usr/local/Lasso Professional 8/LassoSites/mysite/LassoLibraries/knop/ for namespace knop_: -9956 Sub-types can not be made from type "knop_base" or it has not been defined. at: typep with params: 'lang', 'knop...

All 8 Knop .inc files are in that directory.  Files and directories up and down the tree have perms:

    755 lasso lasso
    or
    644 lasso lasso

Anyone got any ideas of where to start looking?

--steve

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[Jason Huck]

Make sure the files sort in the same order on Linux as they do on OS X
and Windows. I've found that file_listdirectory on Linux will
sometimes return results in a random order and I have to sort the
array explicitly. The on-demand loader probably uses that.

JLH





On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Steve Piercy - Web Site
Builder<Web@...> wrote:

> I get a critical error:
>
> Message:  Error loading on-demand library ///usr/local/Lasso Professional 8/LassoSites/mysite/LassoLibraries/knop/ for namespace knop_: -9956 Sub-types can not be made from type "knop_base" or it has not been defined. at: typep with params: 'lang', 'knop...
>
> All 8 Knop .inc files are in that directory.  Files and directories up and down the tree have perms:
>
>    755 lasso lasso
>    or
>    644 lasso lasso
>
> Anyone got any ideas of where to start looking?
>
> --steve
>
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[Steve Piercy]

They're all lower-case, and sort in the same order as Mac OS X.

So I tried the single-file knop.lasso:

Message:  Error loading on-demand library ///usr/local/Lasso Professional 8/LassoSites/mysite/LassoLibraries/knop.lasso for namespace knop_: -9951 Expected: a tag name but got: "<" at: LassoProcessTag on line 8562 at position 17. Expected: end of tag b...

But there is no line 8562!

Maybe I should try a simple include from the global config just to see if that will work?

--steve


On Monday, August 24, 2009, jason.huck@... (Jason Huck) pronounced:

>Make sure the files sort in the same order on Linux as they do on OS X
>and Windows. I've found that file_listdirectory on Linux will
>sometimes return results in a random order and I have to sort the
>array explicitly. The on-demand loader probably uses that.
>
>JLH
>
>
>
>
>
>On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Steve Piercy - Web Site
>Builder<Web@...> wrote:
>> I get a critical error:
>>
>> Message:  Error loading on-demand library ///usr/local/Lasso Professional
>8/LassoSites/mysite/LassoLibraries/knop/ for namespace knop_: -9956 Sub-types can
>not be made from type "knop_base" or it has not been defined. at: typep with params:
>'lang', 'knop...
>>
>> All 8 Knop .inc files are in that directory.  Files and directories up and down
>the tree have perms:
>>
>>    755 lasso lasso
>>    or
>>    644 lasso lasso
>>
>> Anyone got any ideas of where to start looking?
>>
>> --steve
>>
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[Steve Piercy]

D'oh, that was stupid.  I grabbed the wrong file.  It works as a single file library as knop.lasso, but not as a multi-file library.  Interesting.  Has anyone tried to get Knop to run on CentOS with the separate files?

--steve


On Monday, August 24, 2009, Web@... (Steve Piercy - Web Site Builder) pronounced:

>They're all lower-case, and sort in the same order as Mac OS X.
>
>So I tried the single-file knop.lasso:
>
>Message:  Error loading on-demand library ///usr/local/Lasso Professional
>8/LassoSites/mysite/LassoLibraries/knop.lasso for namespace knop_: -9951 Expected: a
>tag name but got: "<" at: LassoProcessTag on line 8562 at position 17. Expected: end
>of tag b...
>
>But there is no line 8562!
>
>Maybe I should try a simple include from the global config just to see if that will
>work?
>
>--steve
>
>
>On Monday, August 24, 2009, jason.huck@... (Jason Huck) pronounced:
>
>>Make sure the files sort in the same order on Linux as they do on OS X
>>and Windows. I've found that file_listdirectory on Linux will
>>sometimes return results in a random order and I have to sort the
>>array explicitly. The on-demand loader probably uses that.
>>
>>JLH
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Steve Piercy - Web Site
>>Builder<Web@...> wrote:
>>> I get a critical error:
>>>
>>> Message:  Error loading on-demand library ///usr/local/Lasso Professional
>>8/LassoSites/mysite/LassoLibraries/knop/ for namespace knop_: -9956 Sub-types can
>>not be made from type "knop_base" or it has not been defined. at: typep with
>params:
>>'lang', 'knop...
>>>
>>> All 8 Knop .inc files are in that directory.  Files and directories up and down
>>the tree have perms:
>>>
>>>    755 lasso lasso
>>>    or
>>>    644 lasso lasso
>>>
>>> Anyone got any ideas of where to start looking?
>>>
>>> --steve
>>>
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>>
>>
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[Jolle Carlestam-3]

I haven't actually considered the possibility to use the individual  
files. I thought they where just for preparation.
Why do you prefer to use them instead of the single knop.lasso file?

HDB
Jolle

24 aug 2009 kl. 17.58 skrev Steve Piercy - Web Site Builder:

> D'oh, that was stupid.  I grabbed the wrong file.  It works as a  
> single file library as knop.lasso, but not as a multi-file library.  
> Interesting.  Has anyone tried to get Knop to run on CentOS with the  
> separate files?
>
> --steve
>
>
> On Monday, August 24, 2009, Web@... (Steve Piercy - Web  
> Site Builder) pronounced:
>
>> They're all lower-case, and sort in the same order as Mac OS X.
>>
>> So I tried the single-file knop.lasso:
>>
>> Message:  Error loading on-demand library ///usr/local/Lasso  
>> Professional
>> 8/LassoSites/mysite/LassoLibraries/knop.lasso for namespace knop_:  
>> -9951 Expected: a
>> tag name but got: "<" at: LassoProcessTag on line 8562 at position  
>> 17. Expected: end
>> of tag b...
>>
>> But there is no line 8562!
>>
>> Maybe I should try a simple include from the global config just to  
>> see if that will
>> work?
>>
>> --steve
>>
>>
>> On Monday, August 24, 2009, jason.huck@... (Jason Huck)  
>> pronounced:
>>
>>> Make sure the files sort in the same order on Linux as they do on  
>>> OS X
>>> and Windows. I've found that file_listdirectory on Linux will
>>> sometimes return results in a random order and I have to sort the
>>> array explicitly. The on-demand loader probably uses that.
>>>
>>> JLH
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Steve Piercy - Web Site
>>> Builder<Web@...> wrote:
>>>> I get a critical error:
>>>>
>>>> Message:  Error loading on-demand library ///usr/local/Lasso  
>>>> Professional
>>> 8/LassoSites/mysite/LassoLibraries/knop/ for namespace knop_:  
>>> -9956 Sub-types can
>>> not be made from type "knop_base" or it has not been defined. at:  
>>> typep with
>> params:
>>> 'lang', 'knop...
>>>>
>>>> All 8 Knop .inc files are in that directory.  Files and  
>>>> directories up and down
>>> the tree have perms:
>>>>
>>>>    755 lasso lasso
>>>>    or
>>>>    644 lasso lasso
>>>>
>>>> Anyone got any ideas of where to start looking?
>>>>
>>>> --steve
>>>>
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[Johan Solve-2]

I have actually never tried loading knop as separate files in a knop namespace folder in LassoLibraries on any platform (if that's what you meant).

At 08.58 -0700 2009-08-24, Steve Piercy - Web Site Builder wrote:

>D'oh, that was stupid.  I grabbed the wrong file.  It works as a single file library as knop.lasso, but not as a multi-file library.  Interesting.  Has anyone tried to get Knop to run on CentOS with the separate files?
>
>--steve
>
>
>On Monday, August 24, 2009, Web@... (Steve Piercy - Web Site Builder) pronounced:
>
>>They're all lower-case, and sort in the same order as Mac OS X.
>>
>>So I tried the single-file knop.lasso:
>>
>>Message:  Error loading on-demand library ///usr/local/Lasso Professional
>>8/LassoSites/mysite/LassoLibraries/knop.lasso for namespace knop_: -9951 Expected: a
>>tag name but got: "<" at: LassoProcessTag on line 8562 at position 17. Expected: end
>>of tag b...
>>
>>But there is no line 8562!
>>
>>Maybe I should try a simple include from the global config just to see if that will
>>work?
>>
>>--steve
>>
>>
>>On Monday, August 24, 2009, jason.huck@... (Jason Huck) pronounced:
>>
>>>Make sure the files sort in the same order on Linux as they do on OS X
>>>and Windows. I've found that file_listdirectory on Linux will
>>>sometimes return results in a random order and I have to sort the
>>>array explicitly. The on-demand loader probably uses that.
>>>
>>>JLH
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Steve Piercy - Web Site
>>>Builder<Web@...> wrote:
>>>> I get a critical error:
>>>>
>>>> Message:  Error loading on-demand library ///usr/local/Lasso Professional
>>>8/LassoSites/mysite/LassoLibraries/knop/ for namespace knop_: -9956 Sub-types can
>>>not be made from type "knop_base" or it has not been defined. at: typep with
>>params:
>>>'lang', 'knop...
>>>>
>>>> All 8 Knop .inc files are in that directory.  Files and directories up and down
>>>the tree have perms:
>>>>
>>>>    755 lasso lasso
>>>>    or
>>>>    644 lasso lasso
>>>>
>>>> Anyone got any ideas of where to start looking?
>>>>
>>>> --steve
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>
>>>
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[Steve Piercy]

The single file relies on it being built then checked into the repo.  If the build step is missed, then results will differ from using the individual files.

--steve


On Monday, August 24, 2009, list@... (Jolle Carlestam) pronounced:

>I haven't actually considered the possibility to use the individual  
>files. I thought they where just for preparation.
>Why do you prefer to use them instead of the single knop.lasso file?
>
>HDB
>Jolle
>
>24 aug 2009 kl. 17.58 skrev Steve Piercy - Web Site Builder:
>
>> D'oh, that was stupid.  I grabbed the wrong file.  It works as a  
>> single file library as knop.lasso, but not as a multi-file library.  
>> Interesting.  Has anyone tried to get Knop to run on CentOS with the  
>> separate files?
>>
>> --steve
>>
>>
>> On Monday, August 24, 2009, Web@... (Steve Piercy - Web  
>> Site Builder) pronounced:
>>
>>> They're all lower-case, and sort in the same order as Mac OS X.
>>>
>>> So I tried the single-file knop.lasso:
>>>
>>> Message:  Error loading on-demand library ///usr/local/Lasso  
>>> Professional
>>> 8/LassoSites/mysite/LassoLibraries/knop.lasso for namespace knop_:  
>>> -9951 Expected: a
>>> tag name but got: "<" at: LassoProcessTag on line 8562 at position  
>>> 17. Expected: end
>>> of tag b...
>>>
>>> But there is no line 8562!
>>>
>>> Maybe I should try a simple include from the global config just to  
>>> see if that will
>>> work?
>>>
>>> --steve
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, August 24, 2009, jason.huck@... (Jason Huck)  
>>> pronounced:
>>>
>>>> Make sure the files sort in the same order on Linux as they do on  
>>>> OS X
>>>> and Windows. I've found that file_listdirectory on Linux will
>>>> sometimes return results in a random order and I have to sort the
>>>> array explicitly. The on-demand loader probably uses that.
>>>>
>>>> JLH
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Steve Piercy - Web Site
>>>> Builder<Web@...> wrote:
>>>>> I get a critical error:
>>>>>
>>>>> Message:  Error loading on-demand library ///usr/local/Lasso  
>>>>> Professional
>>>> 8/LassoSites/mysite/LassoLibraries/knop/ for namespace knop_:  
>>>> -9956 Sub-types can
>>>> not be made from type "knop_base" or it has not been defined. at:  
>>>> typep with
>>> params:
>>>> 'lang', 'knop...
>>>>>
>>>>> All 8 Knop .inc files are in that directory.  Files and  
>>>>> directories up and down
>>>> the tree have perms:
>>>>>
>>>>>    755 lasso lasso
>>>>>    or
>>>>>    644 lasso lasso
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone got any ideas of where to start looking?
>>>>>
>>>>> --steve
>>>>>
>>>>> -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --  
>>>>> --
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>>>>> CA
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>>>>>
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[Steve Piercy]

Yeah, that's what I meant.

Which of the individual files contains the tag loader?  I can look into the source and compare the results between CentOS and Mac to see if there are any differences.

--steve


On Monday, August 24, 2009, inbox_js@... (Johan Solve) pronounced:

>I have actually never tried loading knop as separate files in a knop namespace
>folder in LassoLibraries on any platform (if that's what you meant).
>
>At 08.58 -0700 2009-08-24, Steve Piercy - Web Site Builder wrote:
>>D'oh, that was stupid.  I grabbed the wrong file.  It works as a single file
>library as knop.lasso, but not as a multi-file library.  Interesting.  Has anyone
>tried to get Knop to run on CentOS with the separate files?
>>
>>--steve
>>
>>
>>On Monday, August 24, 2009, Web@... (Steve Piercy - Web Site Builder)
>pronounced:
>>
>>>They're all lower-case, and sort in the same order as Mac OS X.
>>>
>>>So I tried the single-file knop.lasso:
>>>
>>>Message:  Error loading on-demand library ///usr/local/Lasso Professional
>>>8/LassoSites/mysite/LassoLibraries/knop.lasso for namespace knop_: -9951 Expected:
>a
>>>tag name but got: "<" at: LassoProcessTag on line 8562 at position 17. Expected:
>end
>>>of tag b...
>>>
>>>But there is no line 8562!
>>>
>>>Maybe I should try a simple include from the global config just to see if that
>will
>>>work?
>>>
>>>--steve
>>>
>>>
>>>On Monday, August 24, 2009, jason.huck@... (Jason Huck) pronounced:
>>>
>>>>Make sure the files sort in the same order on Linux as they do on OS X
>>>>and Windows. I've found that file_listdirectory on Linux will
>>>>sometimes return results in a random order and I have to sort the
>>>>array explicitly. The on-demand loader probably uses that.
>>>>
>>>>JLH
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Steve Piercy - Web Site
>>>>Builder<Web@...> wrote:
>>>>> I get a critical error:
>>>>>
>>>>> Message:  Error loading on-demand library ///usr/local/Lasso Professional
>>>>8/LassoSites/mysite/LassoLibraries/knop/ for namespace knop_: -9956 Sub-types can
>>>>not be made from type "knop_base" or it has not been defined. at: typep with
>>>params:
>>>>'lang', 'knop...
>>>>>
>>>>> All 8 Knop .inc files are in that directory.  Files and directories up and down
>>>>the tree have perms:
>>>>>
>>>>>    755 lasso lasso
>>>>>    or
>>>>>    644 lasso lasso
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone got any ideas of where to start looking?
>>>>>
>>>>> --steve
>>>>>
>>>>> -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
>>>>> Steve Piercy               Web Site Builder               Soquel, CA
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>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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[Johan Solve-2]

Tee tee... That only happened once or twice, right? ;-)

At 15.57 -0700 2009-08-24, Steve Piercy - Web Site Builder wrote:

>The single file relies on it being built then checked into the repo.  If the build step is missed, then results will differ from using the individual files.
>
>--steve
>
>
>On Monday, August 24, 2009, list@... (Jolle Carlestam) pronounced:
>
>>I haven't actually considered the possibility to use the individual
>>files. I thought they where just for preparation.
>>Why do you prefer to use them instead of the single knop.lasso file?
>>
>>HDB
>>Jolle
>>
>>24 aug 2009 kl. 17.58 skrev Steve Piercy - Web Site Builder:
>>
>>> D'oh, that was stupid.  I grabbed the wrong file.  It works as a
>>> single file library as knop.lasso, but not as a multi-file library.
>>> Interesting.  Has anyone tried to get Knop to run on CentOS with the
>>> separate files?
>>>
>>> --steve
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, August 24, 2009, Web@... (Steve Piercy - Web
>>> Site Builder) pronounced:
>>>
>>>> They're all lower-case, and sort in the same order as Mac OS X.
>>>>
>>>> So I tried the single-file knop.lasso:
>>>>
>>>> Message:  Error loading on-demand library ///usr/local/Lasso
>>>> Professional
>>>> 8/LassoSites/mysite/LassoLibraries/knop.lasso for namespace knop_:
>>>> -9951 Expected: a
>>>> tag name but got: "<" at: LassoProcessTag on line 8562 at position
>>>> 17. Expected: end
>>>> of tag b...
>>>>
>>>> But there is no line 8562!
>>>>
>>>> Maybe I should try a simple include from the global config just to
>>>> see if that will
>>>> work?
>>>>
>>>> --steve
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, August 24, 2009, jason.huck@... (Jason Huck)
>>>> pronounced:
>>>>
>>>>> Make sure the files sort in the same order on Linux as they do on
>>>>> OS X
>>>>> and Windows. I've found that file_listdirectory on Linux will
>>>>> sometimes return results in a random order and I have to sort the
>>>>> array explicitly. The on-demand loader probably uses that.
>>>>>
>>>>> JLH
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Steve Piercy - Web Site
>>>>> Builder<Web@...> wrote:
>>>>>> I get a critical error:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message:  Error loading on-demand library ///usr/local/Lasso
>>>>>> Professional
>>>>> 8/LassoSites/mysite/LassoLibraries/knop/ for namespace knop_:
>>>>> -9956 Sub-types can
>>>>> not be made from type "knop_base" or it has not been defined. at:
>>>>> typep with
>>>> params:
>>>>> 'lang', 'knop...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All 8 Knop .inc files are in that directory.  Files and
>>>>>> directories up and down
>>>>> the tree have perms:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    755 lasso lasso
>>>>>>    or
>>>>>>    644 lasso lasso
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyone got any ideas of where to start looking?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --steve
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
>>>>>> --
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>>>>>> CA
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>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>
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>>
>>
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[Steve Piercy]

Heh, yeah, and now I'm permanently scarred.  ;)

--steve


On Tuesday, August 25, 2009, inbox_js@... (Johan Solve) pronounced:

>Tee tee... That only happened once or twice, right? ;-)
>
>At 15.57 -0700 2009-08-24, Steve Piercy - Web Site Builder wrote:
>>The single file relies on it being built then checked into the repo.  If the build
>step is missed, then results will differ from using the individual files.
>>
>>--steve
>>
>>
>>On Monday, August 24, 2009, list@... (Jolle Carlestam) pronounced:
>>
>>>I haven't actually considered the possibility to use the individual
>>>files. I thought they where just for preparation.
>>>Why do you prefer to use them instead of the single knop.lasso file?
>>>
>>>HDB
>>>Jolle
>>>
>>>24 aug 2009 kl. 17.58 skrev Steve Piercy - Web Site Builder:
>>>
>>>> D'oh, that was stupid.  I grabbed the wrong file.  It works as a
>>>> single file library as knop.lasso, but not as a multi-file library.  
>>>> Interesting.  Has anyone tried to get Knop to run on CentOS with the
>>>> separate files?
>>>>
>>>> --steve
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, August 24, 2009, Web@... (Steve Piercy - Web
>>>> Site Builder) pronounced:
>>>>
>>>>> They're all lower-case, and sort in the same order as Mac OS X.
>>>>>
>>>>> So I tried the single-file knop.lasso:
>>>>>
>>>>> Message:  Error loading on-demand library ///usr/local/Lasso
>>>>> Professional
>>>>> 8/LassoSites/mysite/LassoLibraries/knop.lasso for namespace knop_:
>>>>> -9951 Expected: a
>>>>> tag name but got: "<" at: LassoProcessTag on line 8562 at position
>>>>> 17. Expected: end
>>>>> of tag b...
>>>>>
>>>>> But there is no line 8562!
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe I should try a simple include from the global config just to
>>>>> see if that will
>>>>> work?
>>>>>
>>>>> --steve
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, August 24, 2009, jason.huck@... (Jason Huck)
>>>>> pronounced:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Make sure the files sort in the same order on Linux as they do on
>>>>>> OS X
>>>>>> and Windows. I've found that file_listdirectory on Linux will
>>>>>> sometimes return results in a random order and I have to sort the
>>>>>> array explicitly. The on-demand loader probably uses that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> JLH
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Steve Piercy - Web Site
>>>>>> Builder<Web@...> wrote:
>>>>>>> I get a critical error:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Message:  Error loading on-demand library ///usr/local/Lasso
>>>>>>> Professional
>>>>>> 8/LassoSites/mysite/LassoLibraries/knop/ for namespace knop_:
>>>>>> -9956 Sub-types can
>>>>>> not be made from type "knop_base" or it has not been defined. at:
>>>>>> typep with
>>>>> params:
>>>>>> 'lang', 'knop...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All 8 Knop .inc files are in that directory.  Files and
>>>>>>> directories up and down
>>>>>> the tree have perms:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    755 lasso lasso
>>>>>>>    or
>>>>>>>    644 lasso lasso
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyone got any ideas of where to start looking?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --steve
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Steve Piercy               Web Site Builder               Soquel,
>>>>>>> CA
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>>>>>>> www.StevePiercy.com/>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
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>>>>>> <http://tagSwap.net/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
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>>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>
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[Johan Solve-2]

Tag loader? Lasso handles that by itself (as of 8.5). Autoload a namespace folder, that is.

This reminds me of something similar, someone somewhere asked in what order LassoStartup files are executed and I think it was revealed that on Linux the load order is a bit unpredictable instead of alphabetical as it is on Mac and Windows, if I recall.

For the correct load order for the Knop files you should look at the load order in Buildnamespace.lasso. I think util.inc loads first (it contains custom tags that the ctypes rely on), then base.inc needs to load since it's the mother of the other Knop ctypes. This load order luckily happens to match alphabetical order if you take the containing folders into account.


At 15.59 -0700 2009-08-24, Steve Piercy - Web Site Builder wrote:

>Yeah, that's what I meant.
>
>Which of the individual files contains the tag loader?  I can look into the source and compare the results between CentOS and Mac to see if there are any differences.
>
>--steve
>
>
>On Monday, August 24, 2009, inbox_js@... (Johan Solve) pronounced:
>
>>I have actually never tried loading knop as separate files in a knop namespace
>>folder in LassoLibraries on any platform (if that's what you meant).
>>
>>At 08.58 -0700 2009-08-24, Steve Piercy - Web Site Builder wrote:
>>>D'oh, that was stupid.  I grabbed the wrong file.  It works as a single file
>>library as knop.lasso, but not as a multi-file library.  Interesting.  Has anyone
>>tried to get Knop to run on CentOS with the separate files?
>>>
>>>--steve
>>>
>>>
>>>On Monday, August 24, 2009, Web@... (Steve Piercy - Web Site Builder)
>>pronounced:
>>>
>>>>They're all lower-case, and sort in the same order as Mac OS X.
>>>>
>>>>So I tried the single-file knop.lasso:
>>>>
>>>>Message:  Error loading on-demand library ///usr/local/Lasso Professional
>>>>8/LassoSites/mysite/LassoLibraries/knop.lasso for namespace knop_: -9951 Expected:
>>a
>>>>tag name but got: "<" at: LassoProcessTag on line 8562 at position 17. Expected:
>>end
>>>>of tag b...
>>>>
>>>>But there is no line 8562!
>>>>
>>>>Maybe I should try a simple include from the global config just to see if that
>>will
>>>>work?
>>>>
>>>>--steve
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On Monday, August 24, 2009, jason.huck@... (Jason Huck) pronounced:
>>>>
>>>>>Make sure the files sort in the same order on Linux as they do on OS X
>>>>>and Windows. I've found that file_listdirectory on Linux will
>>>>>sometimes return results in a random order and I have to sort the
>>>>>array explicitly. The on-demand loader probably uses that.
>>>>>
>>>>>JLH
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Steve Piercy - Web Site
>>>>>Builder<Web@...> wrote:
>>>>>> I get a critical error:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message:  Error loading on-demand library ///usr/local/Lasso Professional
>>>>>8/LassoSites/mysite/LassoLibraries/knop/ for namespace knop_: -9956 Sub-types can
>>>>>not be made from type "knop_base" or it has not been defined. at: typep with
>>>>params:
>>>>>'lang', 'knop...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All 8 Knop .inc files are in that directory.  Files and directories up and down
>>>>>the tree have perms:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    755 lasso lasso
>>>>>>    or
>>>>>>    644 lasso lasso
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyone got any ideas of where to start looking?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --steve
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
>>>>>> Steve Piercy               Web Site Builder               Soquel, CA
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>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>
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[Steve Piercy]

I followed option (4) for the install:

    4. In Lasso 8.5 and later (actually 8.1.1 and later) you can put
    each source file separately in a folder named "knop" in
    LassoLibraries. The files must be directly in the namespace
    folder, there can be no sub folders. This method does not work
    with Lasso 8.0 or 8.1.

All the individual files are contained in:

///usr/local/Lasso Professional 8/LassoSites/mysite/LassoLibraries/knop/

Lasso's namespace.lasso loads files in ASCII sort order on CentOS (case-sensitive).  So it attempts to load in this order:

base.inc
database.inc
form.inc
grid.inc
lang.inc
nav.inc
user.inc
util.inc

But that makes no sense!  This should method should fail the same on both Mac and Linux since there is no case sensitivity issue.

I guess the single knop.lasso file is the way to go.

--steve


On Tuesday, August 25, 2009, inbox_js@... (Johan Solve) pronounced:

>Tag loader? Lasso handles that by itself (as of 8.5). Autoload a namespace folder,
>that is.
>
>This reminds me of something similar, someone somewhere asked in what order
>LassoStartup files are executed and I think it was revealed that on Linux the load
>order is a bit unpredictable instead of alphabetical as it is on Mac and Windows, if
>I recall.
>
>For the correct load order for the Knop files you should look at the load order in
>Buildnamespace.lasso. I think util.inc loads first (it contains custom tags that the
>ctypes rely on), then base.inc needs to load since it's the mother of the other Knop
>ctypes. This load order luckily happens to match alphabetical order if you take the
>containing folders into account.
>
>
>At 15.59 -0700 2009-08-24, Steve Piercy - Web Site Builder wrote:
>>Yeah, that's what I meant.
>>
>>Which of the individual files contains the tag loader?  I can look into the source
>and compare the results between CentOS and Mac to see if there are any differences.
>>
>>--steve
>>
>>
>>On Monday, August 24, 2009, inbox_js@... (Johan Solve) pronounced:
>>
>>>I have actually never tried loading knop as separate files in a knop namespace
>>>folder in LassoLibraries on any platform (if that's what you meant).
>>>
>>>At 08.58 -0700 2009-08-24, Steve Piercy - Web Site Builder wrote:
>>>>D'oh, that was stupid.  I grabbed the wrong file.  It works as a single file
>>>library as knop.lasso, but not as a multi-file library.  Interesting.  Has anyone
>>>tried to get Knop to run on CentOS with the separate files?
>>>>
>>>>--steve
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On Monday, August 24, 2009, Web@... (Steve Piercy - Web Site Builder)
>>>pronounced:
>>>>
>>>>>They're all lower-case, and sort in the same order as Mac OS X.
>>>>>
>>>>>So I tried the single-file knop.lasso:
>>>>>
>>>>>Message:  Error loading on-demand library ///usr/local/Lasso Professional
>>>>>8/LassoSites/mysite/LassoLibraries/knop.lasso for namespace knop_: -9951
>Expected:
>>>a
>>>>>tag name but got: "<" at: LassoProcessTag on line 8562 at position 17. Expected:
>>>end
>>>>>of tag b...
>>>>>
>>>>>But there is no line 8562!
>>>>>
>>>>>Maybe I should try a simple include from the global config just to see if that
>>>will
>>>>>work?
>>>>>
>>>>>--steve
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>On Monday, August 24, 2009, jason.huck@... (Jason Huck) pronounced:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Make sure the files sort in the same order on Linux as they do on OS X
>>>>>>and Windows. I've found that file_listdirectory on Linux will
>>>>>>sometimes return results in a random order and I have to sort the
>>>>>>array explicitly. The on-demand loader probably uses that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>JLH
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Steve Piercy - Web Site
>>>>>>Builder<Web@...> wrote:
>>>>>>> I get a critical error:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Message:  Error loading on-demand library ///usr/local/Lasso Professional
>>>>>>8/LassoSites/mysite/LassoLibraries/knop/ for namespace knop_: -9956 Sub-types
>can
>>>>>>not be made from type "knop_base" or it has not been defined. at: typep with
>>>>>params:
>>>>>>'lang', 'knop...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All 8 Knop .inc files are in that directory.  Files and directories up and
>down
>>>>>>the tree have perms:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    755 lasso lasso
>>>>>>>    or
>>>>>>>    644 lasso lasso
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyone got any ideas of where to start looking?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --steve
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
>>>>>>> Steve Piercy               Web Site Builder               Soquel, CA
>>>>>>> <web@...>                  <http://www.StevePiercy.com/>
>>>>>>>
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>> >>>>> Google Code has the latest downloads at http://code.google.com/p/knop/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>--
>>>>>>tagSwap.net :: Open Source Lasso Code
>>>>>><http://tagSwap.net/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
>>>>>Steve Piercy               Web Site Builder               Soquel, CA
>>>>><web@...>                  <http://www.StevePiercy.com/>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
>>>>Steve Piercy               Web Site Builder               Soquel, CA
>>>><web@...>                  <http://www.StevePiercy.com/>
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>--
>>>     Johan Sölve    [FSA Member, Lasso Partner]
>>>     Web Application/Lasso/FileMaker Developer
>>>     MONTANIA SOFTWARE & SOLUTIONS
>>>http://www.montania.se   mailto:joh-n@...
>>> (spam-safe email address, replace '-' with 'a')
>>>
>>
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>>
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>
>
>--
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>     Web Application/Lasso/FileMaker Developer
>     MONTANIA SOFTWARE & SOLUTIONS
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[Jolle Carlestam-3]

I have faint recollection that the namespace loading only work with  
files that use .lasso as a suffix. Could be that you need to rename  
the files.

HDB
Jolle

25 aug 2009 kl. 02.48 skrev Steve Piercy - Web Site Builder:

> I followed option (4) for the install:
>
>    4. In Lasso 8.5 and later (actually 8.1.1 and later) you can put
>    each source file separately in a folder named "knop" in
>    LassoLibraries. The files must be directly in the namespace
>    folder, there can be no sub folders. This method does not work
>    with Lasso 8.0 or 8.1.
>
> All the individual files are contained in:
>
> ///usr/local/Lasso Professional 8/LassoSites/mysite/LassoLibraries/
> knop/
>
> Lasso's namespace.lasso loads files in ASCII sort order on CentOS  
> (case-sensitive).  So it attempts to load in this order:
>
> base.inc
> database.inc
> form.inc
> grid.inc
> lang.inc
> nav.inc
> user.inc
> util.inc
>
> But that makes no sense!  This should method should fail the same on  
> both Mac and Linux since there is no case sensitivity issue.
>
> I guess the single knop.lasso file is the way to go.
>
> --steve
>
>
> On Tuesday, August 25, 2009, inbox_js@... (Johan Solve)  
> pronounced:
>
>> Tag loader? Lasso handles that by itself (as of 8.5). Autoload a  
>> namespace folder,
>> that is.
>>
>> This reminds me of something similar, someone somewhere asked in  
>> what order
>> LassoStartup files are executed and I think it was revealed that on  
>> Linux the load
>> order is a bit unpredictable instead of alphabetical as it is on  
>> Mac and Windows, if
>> I recall.
>>
>> For the correct load order for the Knop files you should look at  
>> the load order in
>> Buildnamespace.lasso. I think util.inc loads first (it contains  
>> custom tags that the
>> ctypes rely on), then base.inc needs to load since it's the mother  
>> of the other Knop
>> ctypes. This load order luckily happens to match alphabetical order  
>> if you take the
>> containing folders into account.
>>
>>
>> At 15.59 -0700 2009-08-24, Steve Piercy - Web Site Builder wrote:
>>> Yeah, that's what I meant.
>>>
>>> Which of the individual files contains the tag loader?  I can look  
>>> into the source
>> and compare the results between CentOS and Mac to see if there are  
>> any differences.
>>>
>>> --steve
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, August 24, 2009, inbox_js@... (Johan Solve)  
>>> pronounced:
>>>
>>>> I have actually never tried loading knop as separate files in a  
>>>> knop namespace
>>>> folder in LassoLibraries on any platform (if that's what you  
>>>> meant).
>>>>
>>>> At 08.58 -0700 2009-08-24, Steve Piercy - Web Site Builder wrote:
>>>>> D'oh, that was stupid.  I grabbed the wrong file.  It works as a  
>>>>> single file
>>>> library as knop.lasso, but not as a multi-file library.  
>>>> Interesting.  Has anyone
>>>> tried to get Knop to run on CentOS with the separate files?
>>>>>
>>>>> --steve
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, August 24, 2009, Web@... (Steve Piercy -  
>>>>> Web Site Builder)
>>>> pronounced:
>>>>>
>>>>>> They're all lower-case, and sort in the same order as Mac OS X.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So I tried the single-file knop.lasso:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message:  Error loading on-demand library ///usr/local/Lasso  
>>>>>> Professional
>>>>>> 8/LassoSites/mysite/LassoLibraries/knop.lasso for namespace  
>>>>>> knop_: -9951
>> Expected:
>>>> a
>>>>>> tag name but got: "<" at: LassoProcessTag on line 8562 at  
>>>>>> position 17. Expected:
>>>> end
>>>>>> of tag b...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But there is no line 8562!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe I should try a simple include from the global config just  
>>>>>> to see if that
>>>> will
>>>>>> work?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --steve
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Monday, August 24, 2009, jason.huck@... (Jason Huck)  
>>>>>> pronounced:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Make sure the files sort in the same order on Linux as they do  
>>>>>>> on OS X
>>>>>>> and Windows. I've found that file_listdirectory on Linux will
>>>>>>> sometimes return results in a random order and I have to sort  
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> array explicitly. The on-demand loader probably uses that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> JLH
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Steve Piercy - Web Site
>>>>>>> Builder<Web@...> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I get a critical error:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Message:  Error loading on-demand library ///usr/local/Lasso  
>>>>>>>> Professional
>>>>>>> 8/LassoSites/mysite/LassoLibraries/knop/ for namespace knop_:  
>>>>>>> -9956 Sub-types
>> can
>>>>>>> not be made from type "knop_base" or it has not been defined.  
>>>>>>> at: typep with
>>>>>> params:
>>>>>>> 'lang', 'knop...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> All 8 Knop .inc files are in that directory.  Files and  
>>>>>>>> directories up and
>> down
>>>>>>> the tree have perms:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   755 lasso lasso
>>>>>>>>   or
>>>>>>>>   644 lasso lasso
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Anyone got any ideas of where to start looking?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --steve
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --  
>>>>>>>> -- -- --
>>>>>>>> Steve Piercy               Web Site Builder                
>>>>>>>> Soquel, CA
>>>>>>>> <web@...>                  <http://www.StevePiercy.com/ 
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> Project homepage http://montania.se/projects/knop/
>>>>>>>> Google Code has the latest downloads at http://code.google.com/p/knop/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> tagSwap.net :: Open Source Lasso Code
>>>>>>> <http://tagSwap.net/>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --  
>>>>>> -- --
>>>>>> Steve Piercy               Web Site Builder                
>>>>>> Soquel, CA
>>>>>> <web@...>                  <http://www.StevePiercy.com/ 
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --  
>>>>> -- --
>>>>> Steve Piercy               Web Site Builder                
>>>>> Soquel, CA
>>>>> <web@...>                  <http://www.StevePiercy.com/ 
>>>>> >
>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>    Johan Sölve    [FSA Member, Lasso Partner]
>>>>    Web Application/Lasso/FileMaker Developer
>>>>    MONTANIA SOFTWARE & SOLUTIONS
>>>> http://www.montania.se   mailto:joh-n@...
>>>> (spam-safe email address, replace '-' with 'a')
>>>>
>>>
>>> -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
>>> Steve Piercy               Web Site Builder               Soquel, CA
>>> <web@...>                  <http://www.StevePiercy.com/>
>>>
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>>
>>
>> --
>>    Johan Sölve    [FSA Member, Lasso Partner]
>>    Web Application/Lasso/FileMaker Developer
>>    MONTANIA SOFTWARE & SOLUTIONS
>> http://www.montania.se   mailto:joh-n@...
>> (spam-safe email address, replace '-' with 'a')
>>
>
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[Johan Solve-2]

Oh, I didn't remember that... Apparently I didn't consider the load order for that case.

On the other hand, it's possible that the util tags don't need to be defined when defining the custom types as long as they aren't prototypes, since they are not instantiated until runtime in that case.


At 17.48 -0700 2009-08-24, Steve Piercy - Web Site Builder wrote:

>I followed option (4) for the install:
>
>    4. In Lasso 8.5 and later (actually 8.1.1 and later) you can put
>    each source file separately in a folder named "knop" in
>    LassoLibraries. The files must be directly in the namespace
>    folder, there can be no sub folders. This method does not work
>    with Lasso 8.0 or 8.1.
>
>All the individual files are contained in:
>
>///usr/local/Lasso Professional 8/LassoSites/mysite/LassoLibraries/knop/
>
>Lasso's namespace.lasso loads files in ASCII sort order on CentOS (case-sensitive).  So it attempts to load in this order:
>
>base.inc
>database.inc
>form.inc
>grid.inc
>lang.inc
>nav.inc
>user.inc
>util.inc
>
>But that makes no sense!  This should method should fail the same on both Mac and Linux since there is no case sensitivity issue.
>
>I guess the single knop.lasso file is the way to go.
>
>--steve
>
>
>On Tuesday, August 25, 2009, inbox_js@... (Johan Solve) pronounced:
>
>>Tag loader? Lasso handles that by itself (as of 8.5). Autoload a namespace folder,
>>that is.
>>
>>This reminds me of something similar, someone somewhere asked in what order
>>LassoStartup files are executed and I think it was revealed that on Linux the load
>>order is a bit unpredictable instead of alphabetical as it is on Mac and Windows, if
>>I recall.
>>
>>For the correct load order for the Knop files you should look at the load order in
>>Buildnamespace.lasso. I think util.inc loads first (it contains custom tags that the
>>ctypes rely on), then base.inc needs to load since it's the mother of the other Knop
>>ctypes. This load order luckily happens to match alphabetical order if you take the
>>containing folders into account.
>>
>>
>>At 15.59 -0700 2009-08-24, Steve Piercy - Web Site Builder wrote:
>>>Yeah, that's what I meant.
>>>
>>>Which of the individual files contains the tag loader?  I can look into the source
>>and compare the results between CentOS and Mac to see if there are any differences.
>>>
>>>--steve
>>>
>>>
>>>On Monday, August 24, 2009, inbox_js@... (Johan Solve) pronounced:
>>>
>>>>I have actually never tried loading knop as separate files in a knop namespace
>>>>folder in LassoLibraries on any platform (if that's what you meant).
>>>>
>>>>At 08.58 -0700 2009-08-24, Steve Piercy - Web Site Builder wrote:
>>>>>D'oh, that was stupid.  I grabbed the wrong file.  It works as a single file
>>>>library as knop.lasso, but not as a multi-file library.  Interesting.  Has anyone
>>>>tried to get Knop to run on CentOS with the separate files?
>>>>>
>>>>>--steve
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>On Monday, August 24, 2009, Web@... (Steve Piercy - Web Site Builder)
>>>>pronounced:
>>>>>
>>>>>>They're all lower-case, and sort in the same order as Mac OS X.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>So I tried the single-file knop.lasso:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Message:  Error loading on-demand library ///usr/local/Lasso Professional
>>>>>>8/LassoSites/mysite/LassoLibraries/knop.lasso for namespace knop_: -9951
>>Expected:
>>>>a
>>>>>>tag name but got: "<" at: LassoProcessTag on line 8562 at position 17. Expected:
>>>>end
>>>>>>of tag b...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>But there is no line 8562!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Maybe I should try a simple include from the global config just to see if that
>>>>will
>>>>>>work?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>--steve
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On Monday, August 24, 2009, jason.huck@... (Jason Huck) pronounced:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Make sure the files sort in the same order on Linux as they do on OS X
>>>>>>>and Windows. I've found that file_listdirectory on Linux will
>>>>>>>sometimes return results in a random order and I have to sort the
>>>>>>>array explicitly. The on-demand loader probably uses that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>JLH
> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Steve Piercy - Web Site
>>>>>>>Builder<Web@...> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I get a critical error:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Message:  Error loading on-demand library ///usr/local/Lasso Professional
>>>>>>>8/LassoSites/mysite/LassoLibraries/knop/ for namespace knop_: -9956 Sub-types
>>can
>>>>>>>not be made from type "knop_base" or it has not been defined. at: typep with
>>>>>>params:
>>>>>>>'lang', 'knop...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> All 8 Knop .inc files are in that directory.  Files and directories up and
>>down
>>>>>>>the tree have perms:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    755 lasso lasso
>>>>>>>>    or
>>>>>>>>    644 lasso lasso
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Anyone got any ideas of where to start looking?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --steve
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
>>>>>>>> Steve Piercy               Web Site Builder               Soquel, CA
>>>>>>>> <web@...>                  <http://www.StevePiercy.com/>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> Project homepage http://montania.se/projects/knop/
>>> >>>>> Google Code has the latest downloads at http://code.google.com/p/knop/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>tagSwap.net :: Open Source Lasso Code
>>>>>>><http://tagSwap.net/>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
>>>>>>Steve Piercy               Web Site Builder               Soquel, CA
>>>>>><web@...>                  <http://www.StevePiercy.com/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
>>>>>Steve Piercy               Web Site Builder               Soquel, CA
>>>>><web@...>                  <http://www.StevePiercy.com/>
>>>>>
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>>>>
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[Steve Piercy]

If that is the case, then it should fail on Mac, too.  Either that or namespace.lasso in Lasso is different between Mac and Linux, and I really doubt that.  As far as what is in the Documentation folders, namespace.lasso is identical between platforms in the critical area:

    iterate(file_listdirectory(#pathToUse), (local: 'path'));
        if: #path->(endswith: '.lasso') || #path->(endswith: '.las') || #path->(endswith: '.html') || #path->(endswith: '.htm') || #path->(endswith: '.incl') || #path->(endswith: '.inc');
            \process->invoke(file_read(#pathToUse + #path), -name=#path);
        else: #path->(endswith: '.lassoapp');
            \lassoapp_process->invoke(file_read(#pathToUse + #path));
        /if;
    /iterate;

Oh well.  I'll just have to keep this in mind for the future.

--steve


On Tuesday, August 25, 2009, list@... (Jolle Carlestam) pronounced:

>I have faint recollection that the namespace loading only work with  
>files that use .lasso as a suffix. Could be that you need to rename  
>the files.
>
>HDB
>Jolle
>
>25 aug 2009 kl. 02.48 skrev Steve Piercy - Web Site Builder:
>
>> I followed option (4) for the install:
>>
>>    4. In Lasso 8.5 and later (actually 8.1.1 and later) you can put
>>    each source file separately in a folder named "knop" in
>>    LassoLibraries. The files must be directly in the namespace
>>    folder, there can be no sub folders. This method does not work
>>    with Lasso 8.0 or 8.1.
>>
>> All the individual files are contained in:
>>
>> ///usr/local/Lasso Professional 8/LassoSites/mysite/LassoLibraries/
>> knop/
>>
>> Lasso's namespace.lasso loads files in ASCII sort order on CentOS  
>> (case-sensitive).  So it attempts to load in this order:
>>
>> base.inc
>> database.inc
>> form.inc
>> grid.inc
>> lang.inc
>> nav.inc
>> user.inc
>> util.inc
>>
>> But that makes no sense!  This should method should fail the same on  
>> both Mac and Linux since there is no case sensitivity issue.
>>
>> I guess the single knop.lasso file is the way to go.
>>
>> --steve
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 25, 2009, inbox_js@... (Johan Solve)  
>> pronounced:
>>
>>> Tag loader? Lasso handles that by itself (as of 8.5). Autoload a  
>>> namespace folder,
>>> that is.
>>>
>>> This reminds me of something similar, someone somewhere asked in  
>>> what order
>>> LassoStartup files are executed and I think it was revealed that on  
>>> Linux the load
>>> order is a bit unpredictable instead of alphabetical as it is on  
>>> Mac and Windows, if
>>> I recall.
>>>
>>> For the correct load order for the Knop files you should look at  
>>> the load order in
>>> Buildnamespace.lasso. I think util.inc loads first (it contains  
>>> custom tags that the
>>> ctypes rely on), then base.inc needs to load since it's the mother  
>>> of the other Knop
>>> ctypes. This load order luckily happens to match alphabetical order  
>>> if you take the
>>> containing folders into account.
>>>
>>>
>>> At 15.59 -0700 2009-08-24, Steve Piercy - Web Site Builder wrote:
>>>> Yeah, that's what I meant.
>>>>
>>>> Which of the individual files contains the tag loader?  I can look  
>>>> into the source
>>> and compare the results between CentOS and Mac to see if there are  
>>> any differences.
>>>>
>>>> --steve
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, August 24, 2009, inbox_js@... (Johan Solve)  
>>>> pronounced:
>>>>
>>>>> I have actually never tried loading knop as separate files in a  
>>>>> knop namespace
>>>>> folder in LassoLibraries on any platform (if that's what you  
>>>>> meant).
>>>>>
>>>>> At 08.58 -0700 2009-08-24, Steve Piercy - Web Site Builder wrote:
>>>>>> D'oh, that was stupid.  I grabbed the wrong file.  It works as a  
>>>>>> single file
>>>>> library as knop.lasso, but not as a multi-file library.  
>>>>> Interesting.  Has anyone
>>>>> tried to get Knop to run on CentOS with the separate files?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --steve
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Monday, August 24, 2009, Web@... (Steve Piercy -  
>>>>>> Web Site Builder)
>>>>> pronounced:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They're all lower-case, and sort in the same order as Mac OS X.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So I tried the single-file knop.lasso:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Message:  Error loading on-demand library ///usr/local/Lasso  
>>>>>>> Professional
>>>>>>> 8/LassoSites/mysite/LassoLibraries/knop.lasso for namespace  
>>>>>>> knop_: -9951
>>> Expected:
>>>>> a
>>>>>>> tag name but got: "<" at: LassoProcessTag on line 8562 at  
>>>>>>> position 17. Expected:
>>>>> end
>>>>>>> of tag b...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But there is no line 8562!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maybe I should try a simple include from the global config just  
>>>>>>> to see if that
>>>>> will
>>>>>>> work?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --steve
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Monday, August 24, 2009, jason.huck@... (Jason Huck)  
>>>>>>> pronounced:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Make sure the files sort in the same order on Linux as they do  
>>>>>>>> on OS X
>>>>>>>> and Windows. I've found that file_listdirectory on Linux will
>>>>>>>> sometimes return results in a random order and I have to sort  
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> array explicitly. The on-demand loader probably uses that.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> JLH
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Steve Piercy - Web Site
>>>>>>>> Builder<Web@...> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I get a critical error:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Message:  Error loading on-demand library ///usr/local/Lasso  
>>>>>>>>> Professional
>>>>>>>> 8/LassoSites/mysite/LassoLibraries/knop/ for namespace knop_:  
>>>>>>>> -9956 Sub-types
>>> can
>>>>>>>> not be made from type "knop_base" or it has not been defined.  
>>>>>>>> at: typep with
>>>>>>> params:
>>>>>>>> 'lang', 'knop...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> All 8 Knop .inc files are in that directory.  Files and  
>>>>>>>>> directories up and
>>> down
>>>>>>>> the tree have perms:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   755 lasso lasso
>>>>>>>>>   or
>>>>>>>>>   644 lasso lasso
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Anyone got any ideas of where to start looking?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --steve
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