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Intrepid Ibex Theme

by Joshua Booth-2 :: Rate this Message:

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This is the kind of thing Ubuntu needs to start making. The new Ibex theme is hideous and almost unusable for non-native applications, and and I disliked the last theme too.
 

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Re: Intrepid Ibex Theme

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It's known, thanks. That is just a mockup, so unless there's a real thing that the author can show, it doesn't help much...

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Re: Intrepid Ibex Theme

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From: Joshua Booth <mr.booth2145@...>
Date: Monday, August 11, 2008 14:39
Subject: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex Theme
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<div dir="ltr"><div><font style="font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; background-color: rgb(245, 248, 240); font-size: 14px;">> </font>This is the kind of thing Ubuntu needs to start making. The new Ibex theme is hideous and almost unusable for non-native applications, and and I disliked the last theme too.</div>
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<div><a href="http://fc02.deviantart.com/fs31/i/2008/215/e/1/Interpid_Ibex_Mockup_Part_1_by_willwill100.png" target="1"><font style="font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; background-color: rgb(245, 248, 240); font-size: 14px;">> </font>http://fc02.deviantart.com/fs31/i/2008/215/e/1/Interpid_Ibex_Mockup_Part_1_by_willwill100.png</a></div></div>
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that classy wooden theme is extremely beautiful... im not sure if you disapprove of it or love it, but this theme definitely takes the cake for me :)

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Re: Intrepid Ibex Theme

by Joshua Booth-2 :: Rate this Message:

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To me this looks much more modern and usable than the current Ibex theme in the making. So I like it.

On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Caputo, Luke A SPC RES USAR <luke.caputo@...> wrote:


----- Original Message -----
From: Joshua Booth <mr.booth2145@...>
Date: Monday, August 11, 2008 14:39
Subject: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex Theme
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<div dir="ltr"><div><font style="font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; background-color: rgb(245, 248, 240); font-size: 14px;">&gt; </font>This is the kind of thing Ubuntu needs to start making. The new Ibex theme is hideous and almost unusable for non-native applications, and and I disliked the last theme too.</div>
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<div><a href="http://fc02.deviantart.com/fs31/i/2008/215/e/1/Interpid_Ibex_Mockup_Part_1_by_willwill100.png" target="1"><font style="font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; background-color: rgb(245, 248, 240); font-size: 14px;">&gt; </font>http://fc02.deviantart.com/fs31/i/2008/215/e/1/Interpid_Ibex_Mockup_Part_1_by_willwill100.png</a></div></div>
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that classy wooden theme is extremely beautiful... im not sure if you disapprove of it or love it, but this theme definitely takes the cake for me :)

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Re: Intrepid Ibex Theme

by Vadim Peretokin :: Rate this Message:

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I like it too. Now just to have the real thing to test, not a mockup :)

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Re: Intrepid Ibex Theme

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The GDM mockup that guy made has a striking resemblance to New Wave,
so this may not be as far off as we assume. One issue with the mockup
is that it is hoping for rounded corners at the bottom of windows, but
there is no border to acomodate this. That can be overcome by having a
thicker bottom border, which is a good idea anyway for easily resizing
the window.

Forcing a round corner without adding a Metacity window border to
accommodate it (if it was possible within today's infrastructure,
which I do not believe is so) would need to cut off actual content. We
don't want that. MPlayer users, for example, would kill us.

Ideally, I think window decoration themes should be superceded by GTK
container widgets, which may afford us some interesting control along
these lines. Until then - if that is even possible or remotely
desirable, which is iffy - ... it wouldn't be looking like the mockup.

I think the colour scheme is pretty decent, though, and I appreciate
that this mockup keeps the actual software intact. There are some nice
ideas in here :)
Oh, cool background, too. And that wifi icon is actually useful; it
takes the extra step of actually using an antenna to describe what the
signal strength bars represent, which is Really Important yet
strangely never done. (Even in those operating systems that spend
millions on usability testing).

Bye,
-Dylan

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Re: Intrepid Ibex Theme

by Joshua Booth-2 :: Rate this Message:

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Someone made a flesh-and-bone GDM theme based off of the mock-up, and it has a rounded corner, too: http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Intrepid+Ibex+GDM?content=86712

On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 3:26 PM, Dylan McCall <dylanmccall@...> wrote:
The GDM mockup that guy made has a striking resemblance to New Wave,
so this may not be as far off as we assume. One issue with the mockup
is that it is hoping for rounded corners at the bottom of windows, but
there is no border to acomodate this. That can be overcome by having a
thicker bottom border, which is a good idea anyway for easily resizing
the window.

Forcing a round corner without adding a Metacity window border to
accommodate it (if it was possible within today's infrastructure,
which I do not believe is so) would need to cut off actual content. We
don't want that. MPlayer users, for example, would kill us.

Ideally, I think window decoration themes should be superceded by GTK
container widgets, which may afford us some interesting control along
these lines. Until then - if that is even possible or remotely
desirable, which is iffy - ... it wouldn't be looking like the mockup.

I think the colour scheme is pretty decent, though, and I appreciate
that this mockup keeps the actual software intact. There are some nice
ideas in here :)
Oh, cool background, too. And that wifi icon is actually useful; it
takes the extra step of actually using an antenna to describe what the
signal strength bars represent, which is Really Important yet
strangely never done. (Even in those operating systems that spend
millions on usability testing).

Bye,
-Dylan

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Re: Intrepid Ibex Theme

by Dylan McCall :: Rate this Message:

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> Someone made a flesh-and-bone GDM theme based off of the mock-up, and it has
> a rounded corner, too:
> http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Intrepid+Ibex+GDM?content=86712
>
> On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 3:26 PM, Dylan McCall <dylanmccall@...> wrote:
>>
>> The GDM mockup that guy made has a striking resemblance to New Wave,
>> so this may not be as far off as we assume. One issue with the mockup
>> is that it is hoping for rounded corners at the bottom of windows, but
>> there is no border to acomodate this. That can be overcome by having a
>> thicker bottom border, which is a good idea anyway for easily resizing
>> the window.
>>
>> Forcing a round corner without adding a Metacity window border to
>> accommodate it (if it was possible within today's infrastructure,
>> which I do not believe is so) would need to cut off actual content. We
>> don't want that. MPlayer users, for example, would kill us.
>>
>> Ideally, I think window decoration themes should be superceded by GTK
>> container widgets, which may afford us some interesting control along
>> these lines. Until then - if that is even possible or remotely
>> desirable, which is iffy - ... it wouldn't be looking like the mockup.
>>
>> I think the colour scheme is pretty decent, though, and I appreciate
>> that this mockup keeps the actual software intact. There are some nice
>> ideas in here :)
>> Oh, cool background, too. And that wifi icon is actually useful; it
>> takes the extra step of actually using an antenna to describe what the
>> signal strength bars represent, which is Really Important yet
>> strangely never done. (Even in those operating systems that spend
>> millions on usability testing).
>>
>> Bye,
>> -Dylan
>>
>> PS: *Sniff* *Sniff* I smell HTML!

Oops, I totally misorganized my thoughts there. When I mention "the
mockup" with rounded borders, I mean the one with a full desktop, not
the GDM mockup. In fact, I only meant the GDM mockup when I was
mentioning New Wave, then completely forgot about it :/

Sorry!

Bye,
-Dylan

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Re: Intrepid Ibex Theme

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On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 3:53 PM, Joshua Booth <mr.booth2145@...> wrote:
Someone made a flesh-and-bone GDM theme based off of the mock-up, and it has a rounded corner, too: http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Intrepid+Ibex+GDM?content=86712


Now that is a totally different story!

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Re: Intrepid Ibex Theme

by Joshua Booth-2 :: Rate this Message:

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To me the rounded edges aren't an issue at all in the long run. If the developers could get something remotely like that theme it would be a vast improvement.

On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 4:18 PM, Vadim Peretokin <vperetokin@...> wrote:


On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 3:53 PM, Joshua Booth <mr.booth2145@...> wrote:
Someone made a flesh-and-bone GDM theme based off of the mock-up, and it has a rounded corner, too: http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Intrepid+Ibex+GDM?content=86712


Now that is a totally different story!

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Re: Intrepid Ibex Theme

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..on or around Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 02:38:30PM -0400 Joshua Booth wrote:
> This is the kind of thing Ubuntu needs to start making. The new Ibex theme
> is hideous and almost unusable for non-native applications, and and I
> disliked the last theme too.
>
> http://fc02.deviantart.com/fs31/i/2008/215/e/1/Interpid_Ibex_Mockup_Part_1_by_willwill100.png

IMO the panel in the above mockup looks quite washed-out. who agrees
translucent panels look a little milky somehow? what material is the
panel and the window title supposed to be made of, polyethylene? why are
they transparent, what use does it serve other than proving it's
possible?

that said i think the yellow tabs and notifiers are better in the above
mockup than seen elsewhere, offset nicely by the grey-brown.

overall, where that Ibex mockup lacks in vibrance it makes up in class,
save the dock at the bottom, which is simply unimaginative.

my 2 bytes,

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Re: Intrepid Ibex Theme

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Julian Oliver wrote:
> ..on or around Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 02:38:30PM -0400 Joshua Booth wrote:
>> This is the kind of thing Ubuntu needs to start making. The new Ibex theme
>> is hideous and almost unusable for non-native applications, and and I
>> disliked the last theme too.
>>
>>
http://fc02.deviantart.com/fs31/i/2008/215/e/1/Interpid_Ibex_Mockup_Part_1_by_willwill100.png

>
> IMO the panel in the above mockup looks quite washed-out. who agrees
> translucent panels look a little milky somehow? what material is the
> panel and the window title supposed to be made of, polyethylene? why are
> they transparent, what use does it serve other than proving it's
> possible?
>
> that said i think the yellow tabs and notifiers are better in the above
> mockup than seen elsewhere, offset nicely by the grey-brown.
>
> overall, where that Ibex mockup lacks in vibrance it makes up in class,
> save the dock at the bottom, which is simply unimaginative.
>
> my 2 bytes,
I agree that it's washed out, yes. But personally I have my top panel
100% transparent. I do this because I like to have striking background
images and I don't want a top panel to disrupt that. Perhaps that's
probably more of a KDE-appropriate mentality, but hey, I have a thing
for GNOME!

I will throw in my vote that I find this mockup gorgeous. The rounded
corners might have technical limitations but that's going to be a hard
sell with newbies. This groundbreaking OS Linux doesn't have a window
manager that can round corners on windows? Right-angle corners will
look pretty Redmond, era 98.

Conor
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Re: Intrepid Ibex Theme

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I kind of missed this discussion on rounded windows.. why aren't they possible? I have such a theme that does them right now.

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Re: Intrepid Ibex Theme

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I think more widgets need to be shown. I can't judge a GTK theme that shows no GTK widgets.

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