Introduction

[David MacIver]

2009/5/12 Stepan Koltsov <yozh@...>:

> On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 19:47, David MacIver <david.maciver@...> wrote:
>> 2009/5/12 Jorge Ortiz <jorge.ortiz@...>:
>>> I consistently find myself coming back to Scalax for the IO stuff. It's
>>> better than Source, but I don't know if it's ready to go in the standard
>>> library (don't ask me how that's in any way logical...).
>>
>> I like scalax.io, but I think I wouldn't want it in the standard
>> library. It's too transparently a wrapper around java.io (it's
>> basically a great big pimp my library), and I'd much rather scala.io
>> was an independent library in its own right. I think including the
>> scalax.io stuff in the standard library would doom chances of that
>> happening.
>
> Disagree. IO is a very basic thing that is needed in everyday
> programming. Having external library is not a problem for a large
> project, but when you write something small, the need of having
> several extra libraries is a headache.
>
> One of reasons of Python success is its great (but not big) standard library.
>
> java.io is very basic and inconvenient library, I don't use it
> directly even in Java.

Um.

You appear to be disagreeing with something that bears no resemblance
to anything I actually said?

[David MacIver]

2009/5/12 David MacIver <david.maciver@...>:

> 2009/5/12 Stepan Koltsov <yozh@...>:
>> On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 19:47, David MacIver <david.maciver@...> wrote:
>>> 2009/5/12 Jorge Ortiz <jorge.ortiz@...>:
>>>> I consistently find myself coming back to Scalax for the IO stuff. It's
>>>> better than Source, but I don't know if it's ready to go in the standard
>>>> library (don't ask me how that's in any way logical...).
>>>
>>> I like scalax.io, but I think I wouldn't want it in the standard
>>> library. It's too transparently a wrapper around java.io (it's
>>> basically a great big pimp my library), and I'd much rather scala.io
>>> was an independent library in its own right. I think including the
>>> scalax.io stuff in the standard library would doom chances of that
>>> happening.
>>
>> Disagree. IO is a very basic thing that is needed in everyday
>> programming. Having external library is not a problem for a large
>> project, but when you write something small, the need of having
>> several extra libraries is a headache.
>>
>> One of reasons of Python success is its great (but not big) standard library.
>>
>> java.io is very basic and inconvenient library, I don't use it
>> directly even in Java.
>
> Um.
>
> You appear to be disagreeing with something that bears no resemblance
> to anything I actually said?

Ok. I see the confusion. "independent library in its own right" meant
"not a thin wrapper around java.io" (as might have been inferred from
the fact that it immediately followed my explaining how scalax.io
*was* a thin wrapper around java.io), not "not part of the standard
Scala distribution".