Invisible tags

[cvs_user2009]

Hello,
We are using MyEclipse 6.6 as IDE to develop J2ee apps. This tool is seamlessly integrated with CVS. In this case it is CVSNT. I am responsible for CM builds. It is pretty early in the game so the builds happened on the HEAD. Here is a problem: I've been assured that dev managers are creating tags on a regular basis (they are in a different location), but I don't see them. I do refresh and nothing. I've set a separate repository and put tags in a test module. All was perfect, I could see and check out my versions.

There's something else, when I go to the file level and request History for a file I can see that, yes, the tags are there. I tried to see if WinCVS will show me the tags. No, it was consistent with MyEclipse. Is there a way for me to be able to check the code out on these tags? What would be an issue here?

PS: I think I did my due diligence, but could not find an explanation.

Thank you

[Spiro Trikaliotis-7]

Hello,

* On Fri, Nov 06, 2009 at 07:00:22AM -0800 cvs_user2009 wrote:

> We are using MyEclipse 6.6 as IDE to develop J2ee apps. This tool is
> seamlessly integrated with CVS. In this case it is CVSNT.

So, do I understand it correctly: MyEclipse is the client, and CVSNT is
the server? BTW: Is MyEclipse a variant of Eclipse?

Note that Eclipse uses its own CVS client, which has its own problems.
Furthermore, CVSNT is NoT CVS, ;) as is WinCVS. WinCVS builds on top of
CVSNT, but CVSNT has diverged much from CVS. Thus, chances are higher
you will get good responses to your problem on a mailing list linked
from

  http://www.march-hare.com/cvsnt/

or some "MyEclipse" (or Eclipse) based mailing list.
 
> There's something else, when I go to the file level and request History for
> a file I can see that, yes, the tags are there. I tried to see if WinCVS
> will show me the tags. No, it was consistent with MyEclipse. Is there a way
> for me to be able to check the code out on these tags? What would be an
> issue here?

If the tags are actually there, you could check it out from the command
line:

  cvs co -r TAGNAME projectname

with CVSROOT set accordingly. However, this does not explain why your
setup does not show you the tags.

HTH,
Spiro.

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[cvs_user2009]

Hi Spiro,
Naturally, after the post I did not stop trying to solve my problem. And though I stand by my claim that I did my due diligence, I was a couple of hours way to fuguring it out on my own.

>So, do I understand it correctly: MyEclipse is the client, and CVSNT is
>the server? BTW: Is MyEclipse a variant of Eclipse?

Yes on both counts, MyEclipse is a variant of Eclipse and it is a client of the CVSNT server. But I think it is not crucial. What was crucial is how we set up out module/project/directory structure and how a client looks for tags (or how you form a request, to be exact). The structure has three layers:
Level 1
         |
          Level 2
                  |
                   Level 3
The actual projects are on the Level 3, and they were tagged. However, the Level 1 was the one I was trying to find tags at. It is a classical case of miscommunication (but it's a different story). Naturally, I could not see any, unless I specifically look at subfolders. When I was setting tags at the proper level (1) all was fine. And when I was looking at a file history (which was at the Level 3) I could see the tags. What was confusing is that at the module Level 3 I did not see the tags as versions. Well, that's the legacy of VSS and a confusingly good GUI of MyEclipse (when you look at a well designed GUI you expect it to be smart, but it ain't).

>Note that Eclipse uses its own CVS client, which has its own problems.
>Furthermore, CVSNT is NoT CVS, ;) as is WinCVS. WinCVS builds on top of
>CVSNT, but CVSNT has diverged much from CVS. Thus, chances are higher
>you will get good responses to your problem on a mailing list linked
>from

>  http://www.march-hare.com/cvsnt/

> or some "MyEclipse" (or Eclipse) based mailing list.

>If the tags are actually there, you could check it out from the command
l>ine:

>  cvs co -r TAGNAME projectname
yes, you're right. I would be able to do that, but I wanted to browse the tags via GUI.

>with CVSROOT set accordingly. However, this does not explain why your
>setup does not show you the tags.


>HTH,
>Spiro.

--
>Spiro R. Trikaliotis                              http://opencbm.sf.net/
>http://www.trikaliotis.net/                     http://www.viceteam.org/

Thank you for your reply, I hope I was coherent in my explanation of what had happened with MyEclipse. I just a little exceeded my expectations. Hope this thread will be helpful for somebody else in future.