Is there an install CD for 64Studio 2.0?

[david-602]

I'm trying to install onto a laptop that has a problematic DVD drive.
The drive reliably reads CDs but has problems with DVDs. 64Studio 2.1 is
DVD only, and installation fails partway through when it's trying to
read the disks. 64Studio 2.0 is a Live CD that works just fine, but
offers no installation option. I thought perhaps I could install
64Studio 2.0 and update it to 64Studio 2.1.

I've already tried various ways of installing from USB drives with no
luck (the installation always wants to read the packages from a CD or
DVD, running into the same drive problem). There may be some way to
tweak a USB installation drive to have it look at the USB device instead
of the CD, but I haven't figured out how to do it.

So is there an install CD for 64Studio? They don't seem to offer a
netinstall option.

Or maybe I should just extract the hard drive from the laptop, put it in
my external USB drive housing, install to that from the other laptop,
then put it back ...

Anyway- any sources for a 64Studio 2.0 install CD?

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[James Cameron]

I've experienced DVD drives that don't read particular DVD media that I
burn on other drives.  Sometimes fixable by either burning the DVD
slower, burning in another drive, or using another type of DVD media,
even DVD-RW.  Sometimes also fixable by running my finger around the
spindle hole or whistling that machine tune from Close Encounters.

Another workaround I've used is to obtain a reliable DVD drive and place
it in a 133.350mm USB to IDE casing.  This requires BIOS support for
boot from USB attached DVD.

On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 01:42:02PM -1000, david wrote:
> Or maybe I should just extract the hard drive from the laptop, put it in
> my external USB drive housing, install to that from the other laptop,
> then put it back ...

Been there, done that.  Only in desperation.  The connectors on hard
drives have a limited design lifetime in terms of mating and removal.

Your approach sounds good ... find if there is another installation
method.

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[david-602]

James Cameron wrote:
> I've experienced DVD drives that don't read particular DVD media that I
> burn on other drives.  Sometimes fixable by either burning the DVD
> slower, burning in another drive, or using another type of DVD media,
> even DVD-RW.  Sometimes also fixable by running my finger around the
> spindle hole or whistling that machine tune from Close Encounters.

I did try the burning slower process (8x). I'd already tried that with
no success. I did discover that both of my 64Studio DVDs were bad - at
the same place, so I guess my download of the ISO was bad. Will try
downloading it again.

> Another workaround I've used is to obtain a reliable DVD drive and place
> it in a 133.350mm USB to IDE casing.  This requires BIOS support for
> boot from USB attached DVD.

This old laptop doesn't appear to recognize USB devices. I made some
bootable USB Flash drives and they don't even power up or appear as
devices. I also don't have any money to spend on another external drive
case.

> On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 01:42:02PM -1000, david wrote:
>> Or maybe I should just extract the hard drive from the laptop, put it in
>> my external USB drive housing, install to that from the other laptop,
>> then put it back ...
>
> Been there, done that.  Only in desperation.  The connectors on hard
> drives have a limited design lifetime in terms of mating and removal.

I think that makes the first time that drive has been outside the
laptop. It's a replacement hard drive for the original drive.

Actually, I pulled the laptop drive out, hooked it to an adapter I have
here for hooking notebook hard drives into desktop PCs, booted the
install DVDs, and installed to the notebook drive. I installed
UbuntuStudio 8.10 and ArtistX 0.7. Then I shutdown, did a test boot from
each of them to make sure they worked, put the hard drive back into the
notebook and both work.

Next step - get rid of Pulseaudio to see if that eliminates the annoying
break in the output of Aeolus ... Or maybe it's the stupid ComPiz OpenGL
stuff overloading the Intel video chipset. UbuntuStudio 2.0 doesn't use
Compiz that I recall.

> Your approach sounds good ... find if there is another installation
> method.

I'd like to figure out how to make a Flash device that would enable me
to install *from the Flash device*. Every one I've tried so far will
*boot and run* from the Flash device, but the moment you try to install,
it's looking for a CD drive ... :-(

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[James Cameron]

On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 11:48:41PM -1000, david wrote:
> I'd like to figure out how to make a Flash device that would enable me
> to install *from the Flash device*. Every one I've tried so far will
> *boot and run* from the Flash device, but the moment you try to install,
> it's looking for a CD drive ... :-(

This is quite doable.  I worked on something vaguely similar for One
Laptop Per Child and debxo.  It just takes remastering of the content so
that it looks for USB drives instead.  It is much easier if the people
who make the original distribution do it.

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[david-602]

James Cameron wrote:

> On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 11:48:41PM -1000, david wrote:
>> I'd like to figure out how to make a Flash device that would enable me
>> to install *from the Flash device*. Every one I've tried so far will
>> *boot and run* from the Flash device, but the moment you try to install,
>> it's looking for a CD drive ... :-(
>
> This is quite doable.  I worked on something vaguely similar for One
> Laptop Per Child and debxo.  It just takes remastering of the content so
> that it looks for USB drives instead.  It is much easier if the people
> who make the original distribution do it.

That's sad. I was hoping it would be something so simple as changing a
config file somewhere on the Flash drive, not having to delve into the
ISOs. I'd like to be able to do this with any distro, not having to
tweak each one separately. Sigh.

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[James Cameron]

On Sat, Jul 04, 2009 at 03:07:29PM -1000, david wrote:
> That's sad. I was hoping it would be something so simple as changing a
> config file somewhere on the Flash drive, not having to delve into the
> ISOs. I'd like to be able to do this with any distro, not having to
> tweak each one separately. Sigh.

Yes, sad, but it's a side-effect of "not invented here", every distro
can and does do it differently.  There's very little need to collaborate
on installation methodology.

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