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by K Post :: Rate this Message:

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I've found a bunch of issues with the email interface and replies to
whitelist addition/remval emails and spam/ham reporting replies.

1) Adding to whitelist via email interface not working 100%.   (some
simply reporting problems, but this is fairly urgent in that some
cases settings are stopping additions to the whitelist)

I originally wrote a while back that whitelist reports weren't showing
if an address was already on the whitelist.  I was a little off base
on this, it's worse than that.  First, I should mention that my
EmailAdmins address is different from the EmailWhitelistTo address.

a) Works fine: If the email is from a regular user and
EmailWhitelistReply is set to "REPLY TO SENDER," whitelist replies
work as expected.  Either showing that the address has been
whitelisted or already was.

b) Problem: If the email comes from an address in EmailAdmins, the
report is generated but no information on the addresses added or found
appear in the body of the message.  It doesn't indicate if the address
was added or if it already existed.

It doesn't even show the address.  After submission, I waited a bit
and checked the whitelist.  Big problem - the address isn't actually
whitelisted!

c) If you change EmailWhitelistReply to "Reply to EmailWhitelistTo",
and send a request from a regular user, it appears that no matter the
address in the body of the mail the message sent to the
EmailWhitelistTo address says:

nowaythisisalreadyon@...: already on whitelist
nowaythisisalreadyon@...: already on whitelist

The address entered by hand (in Outlook 2007) was
nowaythisisalreadyon@....  Outlook seems to link the
email address.  There's multiple issues:

c1- There's two addresses listed, the address submitted and a
truncated version of it, when there was only 1 address in the email
c2- It says that they're already whitelisted when they weren't.
c3- On top of that, even though the report says that the real address
and the truncated address are whitelisted, neither actually are.

I've been playing around a bunch, but I don't think that this problem
happens if EmailWhitelistReply is set to sender only.  There's
definitely something going on though...


2) Request: When reporting spam/ham, my users are seeing an analysis
report in the reply email.  These are very non-technical users.  Is
there a way that we can just give the "thanks for submitting your
report" email without doing an analysis?  Tech users could always sent
to the analysis address.

3) For clarity, I recommend changing the description of EmailErrorsTo, from:

Email sent from ASSP acknowledging your submissions will be sent to
this address. For example: admin@...

to something like:

This is the email address that will receive copies of Spam/Not-Spam
reports if EmailErrorsReply is set to "Reply to EmailErrorsTo" or
"Reply to Both"

Similar wording changes should be made for EmailWhitelistTo,
EmailRedlistTo, EmailSpamLoverTo, EmailNoProcessingTo, EmailBlackTo,
and EmailAnalyzeTo.  This will make it much clearer to admins that the
email address is only used if the cooresponding reply setting is set
appropriately.

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Re: Issues with Email Interface whitelist request, replies, and spam/ham report replies (fairly urgent)

by K Post :: Rate this Message:

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Update.

1a) Whitelisting actually isn't working perfectly if set to reply to
sender.  I just did a test from an exchange user.  The exchange box
connects to assp to send mail out via its acceptAllMail Ip address.

The user (not admin) DID get a reply and have the email address in the
body of the email, but it said that it was already on the whitelist,
which is wasn't.

It did only show the address once though.  This is with reply set to
sender only.


2)  I removed the EmailAdmins entry complete, but when I sent an
address from my address (which used to be an EmailAdmins and also goes
through exchange first), #2 in my first email still happened.
Addresses not shown in the email. So there's something else that is
causing that problem...  I can't understand why my, previously admin,
address would never show the email in the report, but the other
addresses to.  They all follow the same path.


These tests all come through exchange first and then to assp via an
acceptAllMail IP address.  Could that be the root cause of all of
this?

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Re: Issues with Email Interface whitelist request, replies, and spam/ham report replies (fairly urgent)

by Маллиндайн Стивен (Steve Mallindine) :: Rate this Message:

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Ken,

How have you got your ASSP/Exhange setup configured?

I'm running 2 assp servers connected to an Exchange 2007 edge  
transport server, and I don't remember ever setting acceptAllMail...

Steve

Sent from my iPhone

On 06.11.2009, at 19:56, "K Post" <nntp.post@...> wrote:

> Update.
>
> 1a) Whitelisting actually isn't working perfectly if set to reply to
> sender.  I just did a test from an exchange user.  The exchange box
> connects to assp to send mail out via its acceptAllMail Ip address.
>
> The user (not admin) DID get a reply and have the email address in the
> body of the email, but it said that it was already on the whitelist,
> which is wasn't.
>
> It did only show the address once though.  This is with reply set to
> sender only.
>
>
> 2)  I removed the EmailAdmins entry complete, but when I sent an
> address from my address (which used to be an EmailAdmins and also goes
> through exchange first), #2 in my first email still happened.
> Addresses not shown in the email. So there's something else that is
> causing that problem...  I can't understand why my, previously admin,
> address would never show the email in the report, but the other
> addresses to.  They all follow the same path.
>
>
> These tests all come through exchange first and then to assp via an
> acceptAllMail IP address.  Could that be the root cause of all of
> this?
>
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Re: Issues with Email Interface whitelist request, replies, and spam/ham report replies (fairly urgent)

by K Post :: Rate this Message:

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Hi Steve.

This doesn't appear to be an exchange specific issue.  We're using
ASSP 2.0.1 rc 0.5.15 fyi.

I just did a test from a remote user who is using Eudora (yep, Eudora)
and sending via authenitcated SMTP.  We currently have white reporting
set to reply to sender only.

She got a reply that the address was already whitelisted, which it is
not.  The message never touched exchange nor was MSFT outlook to
blame.  I think there's a logic error somewhere in ASSP all of a
sudden.

Anyway, the exchange setup (2003) is pretty basic.

The users who are set up on the exchange servers (not all users are)
connect to exchange using Outlook 2007.  One their mail hits the
exchange server, it goes out via smtp to our ASSP server (smarthost),
which then sends to the main mail server.  So:

Exchange => ASSP port 25 => regular mail server port 25 (all separate machines).

We have the exchange IP setup as accept all mail so that all mail
coming from there gets added to the not spam folder.  We've been doing
it this way for 3-4 years.  Whitelist additions worked fine this way
when we were using 1.4x.  The problem started with 2.0.1, though I
don't know when.

Thanks.









On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 2:02 PM, Маллиндайн Стивен (Steve Mallindine)
<steve@...> wrote:

> Ken,
>
> How have you got your ASSP/Exhange setup configured?
>
> I'm running 2 assp servers connected to an Exchange 2007 edge
> transport server, and I don't remember ever setting acceptAllMail...
>
> Steve
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 06.11.2009, at 19:56, "K Post" <nntp.post@...> wrote:
>
>> Update.
>>
>> 1a) Whitelisting actually isn't working perfectly if set to reply to
>> sender.  I just did a test from an exchange user.  The exchange box
>> connects to assp to send mail out via its acceptAllMail Ip address.
>>
>> The user (not admin) DID get a reply and have the email address in the
>> body of the email, but it said that it was already on the whitelist,
>> which is wasn't.
>>
>> It did only show the address once though.  This is with reply set to
>> sender only.
>>
>>
>> 2)  I removed the EmailAdmins entry complete, but when I sent an
>> address from my address (which used to be an EmailAdmins and also goes
>> through exchange first), #2 in my first email still happened.
>> Addresses not shown in the email. So there's something else that is
>> causing that problem...  I can't understand why my, previously admin,
>> address would never show the email in the report, but the other
>> addresses to.  They all follow the same path.
>>
>>
>> These tests all come through exchange first and then to assp via an
>> acceptAllMail IP address.  Could that be the root cause of all of
>> this?
>>
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Antwort: Issues with Email Interface whitelist request, replies, and spam/ham report replies (fairly urgent)

by Thomas Eckardt/eck :: Rate this Message:

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>2) Request: When reporting spam/ham, my users are seeing an analysis
>report in the reply email.

An analysis report ? ?? Please show an example.

Thomas




K Post <nntp.post@...>
06.11.2009 17:26
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[Assp-test] Issues with Email Interface whitelist request, replies, and
spam/ham        report replies (fairly urgent)






I've found a bunch of issues with the email interface and replies to
whitelist addition/remval emails and spam/ham reporting replies.

1) Adding to whitelist via email interface not working 100%.   (some
simply reporting problems, but this is fairly urgent in that some
cases settings are stopping additions to the whitelist)

I originally wrote a while back that whitelist reports weren't showing
if an address was already on the whitelist.  I was a little off base
on this, it's worse than that.  First, I should mention that my
EmailAdmins address is different from the EmailWhitelistTo address.

a) Works fine: If the email is from a regular user and
EmailWhitelistReply is set to "REPLY TO SENDER," whitelist replies
work as expected.  Either showing that the address has been
whitelisted or already was.

b) Problem: If the email comes from an address in EmailAdmins, the
report is generated but no information on the addresses added or found
appear in the body of the message.  It doesn't indicate if the address
was added or if it already existed.

It doesn't even show the address.  After submission, I waited a bit
and checked the whitelist.  Big problem - the address isn't actually
whitelisted!

c) If you change EmailWhitelistReply to "Reply to EmailWhitelistTo",
and send a request from a regular user, it appears that no matter the
address in the body of the mail the message sent to the
EmailWhitelistTo address says:

nowaythisisalreadyon@...: already on whitelist
nowaythisisalreadyon@...: already on whitelist

The address entered by hand (in Outlook 2007) was
nowaythisisalreadyon@....  Outlook seems to link the
email address.  There's multiple issues:

c1- There's two addresses listed, the address submitted and a
truncated version of it, when there was only 1 address in the email
c2- It says that they're already whitelisted when they weren't.
c3- On top of that, even though the report says that the real address
and the truncated address are whitelisted, neither actually are.

I've been playing around a bunch, but I don't think that this problem
happens if EmailWhitelistReply is set to sender only.  There's
definitely something going on though...


2) Request: When reporting spam/ham, my users are seeing an analysis
report in the reply email.  These are very non-technical users.  Is
there a way that we can just give the "thanks for submitting your
report" email without doing an analysis?  Tech users could always sent
to the analysis address.

3) For clarity, I recommend changing the description of EmailErrorsTo,
from:

Email sent from ASSP acknowledging your submissions will be sent to
this address. For example: admin@...

to something like:

This is the email address that will receive copies of Spam/Not-Spam
reports if EmailErrorsReply is set to "Reply to EmailErrorsTo" or
"Reply to Both"

Similar wording changes should be made for EmailWhitelistTo,
EmailRedlistTo, EmailSpamLoverTo, EmailNoProcessingTo, EmailBlackTo,
and EmailAnalyzeTo.  This will make it much clearer to admins that the
email address is only used if the cooresponding reply setting is set
appropriately.

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Re: Antwort: Issues with Email Interface whitelist request, replies, and spam/ham report replies (fairly urgent)

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still an issue with 0.5.16.  Full details in that release thread.

On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 5:13 AM, Thomas Eckardt/eck
<Thomas.Eckardt@...> wrote:

>>2) Request: When reporting spam/ham, my users are seeing an analysis
>>report in the reply email.
>
> An analysis report ? ?? Please show an example.
>
> Thomas
>
>
>
>
> K Post <nntp.post@...>
> 06.11.2009 17:26
> Bitte antworten an
> ASSP development mailing list <assp-test@...>
>
>
> An
> ASSP development mailing list <assp-test@...>
> Kopie
>
> Thema
> [Assp-test] Issues with Email Interface whitelist request, replies, and
> spam/ham        report replies (fairly urgent)
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I've found a bunch of issues with the email interface and replies to
> whitelist addition/remval emails and spam/ham reporting replies.
>
> 1) Adding to whitelist via email interface not working 100%.   (some
> simply reporting problems, but this is fairly urgent in that some
> cases settings are stopping additions to the whitelist)
>
> I originally wrote a while back that whitelist reports weren't showing
> if an address was already on the whitelist.  I was a little off base
> on this, it's worse than that.  First, I should mention that my
> EmailAdmins address is different from the EmailWhitelistTo address.
>
> a) Works fine: If the email is from a regular user and
> EmailWhitelistReply is set to "REPLY TO SENDER," whitelist replies
> work as expected.  Either showing that the address has been
> whitelisted or already was.
>
> b) Problem: If the email comes from an address in EmailAdmins, the
> report is generated but no information on the addresses added or found
> appear in the body of the message.  It doesn't indicate if the address
> was added or if it already existed.
>
> It doesn't even show the address.  After submission, I waited a bit
> and checked the whitelist.  Big problem - the address isn't actually
> whitelisted!
>
> c) If you change EmailWhitelistReply to "Reply to EmailWhitelistTo",
> and send a request from a regular user, it appears that no matter the
> address in the body of the mail the message sent to the
> EmailWhitelistTo address says:
>
> nowaythisisalreadyon@...: already on whitelist
> nowaythisisalreadyon@...: already on whitelist
>
> The address entered by hand (in Outlook 2007) was
> nowaythisisalreadyon@....  Outlook seems to link the
> email address.  There's multiple issues:
>
> c1- There's two addresses listed, the address submitted and a
> truncated version of it, when there was only 1 address in the email
> c2- It says that they're already whitelisted when they weren't.
> c3- On top of that, even though the report says that the real address
> and the truncated address are whitelisted, neither actually are.
>
> I've been playing around a bunch, but I don't think that this problem
> happens if EmailWhitelistReply is set to sender only.  There's
> definitely something going on though...
>
>
> 2) Request: When reporting spam/ham, my users are seeing an analysis
> report in the reply email.  These are very non-technical users.  Is
> there a way that we can just give the "thanks for submitting your
> report" email without doing an analysis?  Tech users could always sent
> to the analysis address.
>
> 3) For clarity, I recommend changing the description of EmailErrorsTo,
> from:
>
> Email sent from ASSP acknowledging your submissions will be sent to
> this address. For example: admin@...
>
> to something like:
>
> This is the email address that will receive copies of Spam/Not-Spam
> reports if EmailErrorsReply is set to "Reply to EmailErrorsTo" or
> "Reply to Both"
>
> Similar wording changes should be made for EmailWhitelistTo,
> EmailRedlistTo, EmailSpamLoverTo, EmailNoProcessingTo, EmailBlackTo,
> and EmailAnalyzeTo.  This will make it much clearer to admins that the
> email address is only used if the cooresponding reply setting is set
> appropriately.
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Re: Antwort: Issues with Email Interface whitelist request, replies, and spam/ham report replies (fairly urgent)

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sorry, I meant ONLY the analysis report embedded is still an issue.

On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 10:12 AM, K Post <nntp.post@...> wrote:

> still an issue with 0.5.16.  Full details in that release thread.
>
> On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 5:13 AM, Thomas Eckardt/eck
> <Thomas.Eckardt@...> wrote:
>>>2) Request: When reporting spam/ham, my users are seeing an analysis
>>>report in the reply email.
>>
>> An analysis report ? ?? Please show an example.
>>
>> Thomas
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> K Post <nntp.post@...>
>> 06.11.2009 17:26
>> Bitte antworten an
>> ASSP development mailing list <assp-test@...>
>>
>>
>> An
>> ASSP development mailing list <assp-test@...>
>> Kopie
>>
>> Thema
>> [Assp-test] Issues with Email Interface whitelist request, replies, and
>> spam/ham        report replies (fairly urgent)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I've found a bunch of issues with the email interface and replies to
>> whitelist addition/remval emails and spam/ham reporting replies.
>>
>> 1) Adding to whitelist via email interface not working 100%.   (some
>> simply reporting problems, but this is fairly urgent in that some
>> cases settings are stopping additions to the whitelist)
>>
>> I originally wrote a while back that whitelist reports weren't showing
>> if an address was already on the whitelist.  I was a little off base
>> on this, it's worse than that.  First, I should mention that my
>> EmailAdmins address is different from the EmailWhitelistTo address.
>>
>> a) Works fine: If the email is from a regular user and
>> EmailWhitelistReply is set to "REPLY TO SENDER," whitelist replies
>> work as expected.  Either showing that the address has been
>> whitelisted or already was.
>>
>> b) Problem: If the email comes from an address in EmailAdmins, the
>> report is generated but no information on the addresses added or found
>> appear in the body of the message.  It doesn't indicate if the address
>> was added or if it already existed.
>>
>> It doesn't even show the address.  After submission, I waited a bit
>> and checked the whitelist.  Big problem - the address isn't actually
>> whitelisted!
>>
>> c) If you change EmailWhitelistReply to "Reply to EmailWhitelistTo",
>> and send a request from a regular user, it appears that no matter the
>> address in the body of the mail the message sent to the
>> EmailWhitelistTo address says:
>>
>> nowaythisisalreadyon@...: already on whitelist
>> nowaythisisalreadyon@...: already on whitelist
>>
>> The address entered by hand (in Outlook 2007) was
>> nowaythisisalreadyon@....  Outlook seems to link the
>> email address.  There's multiple issues:
>>
>> c1- There's two addresses listed, the address submitted and a
>> truncated version of it, when there was only 1 address in the email
>> c2- It says that they're already whitelisted when they weren't.
>> c3- On top of that, even though the report says that the real address
>> and the truncated address are whitelisted, neither actually are.
>>
>> I've been playing around a bunch, but I don't think that this problem
>> happens if EmailWhitelistReply is set to sender only.  There's
>> definitely something going on though...
>>
>>
>> 2) Request: When reporting spam/ham, my users are seeing an analysis
>> report in the reply email.  These are very non-technical users.  Is
>> there a way that we can just give the "thanks for submitting your
>> report" email without doing an analysis?  Tech users could always sent
>> to the analysis address.
>>
>> 3) For clarity, I recommend changing the description of EmailErrorsTo,
>> from:
>>
>> Email sent from ASSP acknowledging your submissions will be sent to
>> this address. For example: admin@...
>>
>> to something like:
>>
>> This is the email address that will receive copies of Spam/Not-Spam
>> reports if EmailErrorsReply is set to "Reply to EmailErrorsTo" or
>> "Reply to Both"
>>
>> Similar wording changes should be made for EmailWhitelistTo,
>> EmailRedlistTo, EmailSpamLoverTo, EmailNoProcessingTo, EmailBlackTo,
>> and EmailAnalyzeTo.  This will make it much clearer to admins that the
>> email address is only used if the cooresponding reply setting is set
>> appropriately.
>>
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Re: Issues with Email Interface whitelist request, replies, and spam/ham report replies (fairly urgent)

by Маллиндайн Стивен (Steve Mallindine) :: Rate this Message:

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Ken,

Just checked my setup, and I’m definitely not using ‘acceptAllMail’

I’m also using:

Smarthost -> ASSP -> Exchange
Exchange -> ASSP -> Smarthost

However, you mention that its going to ASSP port 25....is that the standard port 25 in SMTP Listen Port (listenPort) (in Network Setup) or is it Relay Port (relayPort) (in Relaying)



Steve


On 11/6/09 11:34 PM, "K Post" <nntp.post@...> wrote:

> Hi Steve. This doesn't appear to be an exchange specific issue.  We're
> using ASSP 2.0.1 rc 0.5.15 fyi. I just did a test from a remote user who is
> using Eudora (yep, Eudora) and sending via authenitcated SMTP.  We currently
> have white reporting set to reply to sender only. She got a reply that the
> address was already whitelisted, which it is not.  The message never touched
> exchange nor was MSFT outlook to blame.  I think there's a logic error
> somewhere in ASSP all of a sudden. Anyway, the exchange setup (2003) is
> pretty basic. The users who are set up on the exchange servers (not all users
> are) connect to exchange using Outlook 2007.  One their mail hits the exchange
> server, it goes out via smtp to our ASSP server (smarthost), which then sends
> to the main mail server.  So: Exchange => ASSP port 25 => regular mail server
> port 25 (all separate machines). We have the exchange IP setup as accept all
> mail so that all mail coming from there gets added to the not spam folder.
> We've been doing it this way for 3-4 years.  Whitelist additions worked fine
> this way when we were using 1.4x.  The problem started with 2.0.1, though
> I don't know when. Thanks. On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 2:02 PM,
> Маллиндайн Стивен (Steve Mallindine) <steve@...> wrote: > Ken, > > How
> have you got your ASSP/Exhange setup configured? > > I'm running 2 assp
> servers connected to an Exchange 2007 edge > transport server, and I don't
> remember ever setting acceptAllMail... > > Steve > > Sent from my iPhone > >
> On 06.11.2009, at 19:56, "K Post" <nntp.post@...> wrote: > >>
> Update. >> >> 1a) Whitelisting actually isn't working perfectly if set to
> reply to >> sender.  I just did a test from an exchange user.  The exchange
> box >> connects to assp to send mail out via its acceptAllMail Ip
> address. >> >> The user (not admin) DID get a reply and have the email address
> in the >> body of the email, but it said that it was already on the
> whitelist, >> which is wasn't. >> >> It did only show the address once though.
>  This is with reply set to >> sender only. >> >> >> 2)  I removed the
> EmailAdmins entry complete, but when I sent an >> address from my address
> (which used to be an EmailAdmins and also goes >> through exchange first), #2
> in my first email still happened. >> Addresses not shown in the email. So
> there's something else that is >> causing that problem...  I can't understand
> why my, previously admin, >> address would never show the email in the report,
> but the other >> addresses to.  They all follow the same path. >> >> >> These
> tests all come through exchange first and then to assp via an >> acceptAllMail
> IP address.  Could that be the root cause of all of >> this? >> >> --- >>
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Re: Issues with Email Interface whitelist request, replies, and spam/ham report replies (fairly urgent)

by K Post :: Rate this Message:

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I'm going to reply in a separate post so that Thomas and Fritz don't
need to parse through this stuff worrying that the interface is still
having trouble.  That's been fixed.

Subject will be "Discussion: Exchange / ASSP / acceptAllMail"

2009/11/9 Маллиндайн Стивен (Steve Mallindine) <steve@...>:

> Ken,
>
> Just checked my setup, and I’m definitely not using ‘acceptAllMail’
>
> I’m also using:
>
> Smarthost -> ASSP -> Exchange
> Exchange -> ASSP -> Smarthost
>
> However, you mention that its going to ASSP port 25....is that the standard port 25 in SMTP Listen Port (listenPort) (in Network Setup) or is it Relay Port (relayPort) (in Relaying)
>
>
>
> Steve
>
>
> On 11/6/09 11:34 PM, "K Post" <nntp.post@...> wrote:
>
>> Hi Steve. This doesn't appear to be an exchange specific issue.  We're
>> using ASSP 2.0.1 rc 0.5.15 fyi. I just did a test from a remote user who is
>> using Eudora (yep, Eudora) and sending via authenitcated SMTP.  We currently
>> have white reporting set to reply to sender only. She got a reply that the
>> address was already whitelisted, which it is not.  The message never touched
>> exchange nor was MSFT outlook to blame.  I think there's a logic error
>> somewhere in ASSP all of a sudden. Anyway, the exchange setup (2003) is
>> pretty basic. The users who are set up on the exchange servers (not all users
>> are) connect to exchange using Outlook 2007.  One their mail hits the exchange
>> server, it goes out via smtp to our ASSP server (smarthost), which then sends
>> to the main mail server.  So: Exchange => ASSP port 25 => regular mail server
>> port 25 (all separate machines). We have the exchange IP setup as accept all
>> mail so that all mail coming from there gets added to the not spam folder.
>> We've been doing it this way for 3-4 years.  Whitelist additions worked fine
>> this way when we were using 1.4x.  The problem started with 2.0.1, though
>> I don't know when. Thanks. On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 2:02 PM,
>> Маллиндайн Стивен (Steve Mallindine) <steve@...> wrote: > Ken, > > How
>> have you got your ASSP/Exhange setup configured? > > I'm running 2 assp
>> servers connected to an Exchange 2007 edge > transport server, and I don't
>> remember ever setting acceptAllMail... > > Steve > > Sent from my iPhone > >
>> On 06.11.2009, at 19:56, "K Post" <nntp.post@...> wrote: > >>
>> Update. >> >> 1a) Whitelisting actually isn't working perfectly if set to
>> reply to >> sender.  I just did a test from an exchange user.  The exchange
>> box >> connects to assp to send mail out via its acceptAllMail Ip
>> address. >> >> The user (not admin) DID get a reply and have the email address
>> in the >> body of the email, but it said that it was already on the
>> whitelist, >> which is wasn't. >> >> It did only show the address once though.
>>  This is with reply set to >> sender only. >> >> >> 2)  I removed the
>> EmailAdmins entry complete, but when I sent an >> address from my address
>> (which used to be an EmailAdmins and also goes >> through exchange first), #2
>> in my first email still happened. >> Addresses not shown in the email. So
>> there's something else that is >> causing that problem...  I can't understand
>> why my, previously admin, >> address would never show the email in the report,
>> but the other >> addresses to.  They all follow the same path. >> >> >> These
>> tests all come through exchange first and then to assp via an >> acceptAllMail
>> IP address.  Could that be the root cause of all of >> this? >> >> --- >>
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