JB Rainsberger's "Integration Tests are a Scam" presentation

[Voris, John]

AgilePhilly is having J.B. Rainsberger repeat his "Integration Tests are
a Scam" presentation on Thursday Oct 29th, so if you are in the
Philadelphia area, come to it.  It's free, and J.B. is always
thought-provoking and entertaining.
RSVP http://www.agilephilly.com/events/integration-tests-are-a-scam-j

We are also having a Java Code Retreat in downtown Philly on Sunday Nov
1st.  It is an all day coding dojo with J.B. and a group using pair
programming, TDD, and other methods to tackle a problem
http://coderetreat.ning.com/xn/detail/2712512:Event:2735


> ... I'm using c#. I was trying to be strict about isolating each
layer.
> (I liked JB Rainsberger's "Integration Tests are a Scam"
presentation).
> At each layer there are a bunch of tests in which the next layer is
mocked.
> So, lots of dependency injection. And occasionally I'm injecting
several dependencies.
> So, it seemed to me I was starting to violate SRP.

[Donaldson, John (GEO)]

I wish! It's a long way from Geneva, CH though...

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Subject: [TDD] JB Rainsberger's "Integration Tests are a Scam" presentation


AgilePhilly is having J.B. Rainsberger repeat his "Integration Tests are
a Scam" presentation on Thursday Oct 29th, so if you are in the
Philadelphia area, come to it.  It's free, and J.B. is always
thought-provoking and entertaining.
RSVP http://www.agilephilly.com/events/integration-tests-are-a-scam-j

We are also having a Java Code Retreat in downtown Philly on Sunday Nov
1st.  It is an all day coding dojo with J.B. and a group using pair
programming, TDD, and other methods to tackle a problem
http://coderetreat.ning.com/xn/detail/2712512:Event:2735


> ... I'm using c#. I was trying to be strict about isolating each
layer.
> (I liked JB Rainsberger's "Integration Tests are a Scam"
presentation).
> At each layer there are a bunch of tests in which the next layer is
mocked.
> So, lots of dependency injection. And occasionally I'm injecting
several dependencies.
> So, it seemed to me I was starting to violate SRP.


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