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Re: JDeveloper - Can I get a show of hands?
by Scott Swank
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And if you're an Oracle DBA your main tool is called "SQL Plus".
On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 8:58 PM, James Carman<jcarman@...> wrote: > +1 to sqldeveloper (java or native). For developers (not DBAs), it's a very > nice tool and does what you need for the majority of the cases. > > On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 11:28 PM, Vasu Srinivasan <vasya10@...> wrote: > >> JDeveloper is good to target a narrow Oracle infrastructure. We use it for >> Oracle soa suite, and there are no other IDEs / plugins which can match >> that, it has good integration for ADF too. And thats pretty much it. >> >> Otherwise, it doesn't come half close to IDEA or Eclipse. The project >> structure it generates is pretty un-intuitive. Bad IDE is indirectly >> proportional to Productivity. Lack of good plugins is another major reason. >> >> Our team has only a few licenses for TOAD, so I use sql developer (the >> windows native version, not the java version).. Pretty happy with it, >> though >> it gets a bit slow at times. Last I used the java version was buggy and >> sssslllllow. >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 9:09 PM, Daniel Toffetti <dtoffe@... >> >wrote: >> >> > Juan Carlos Garcia M. <jcgarciam <at> gmail.com> writes: >> > > >> > > I always thought God used only in LISP :) >> > > >> > > Nicolas Melendez wrote: >> > > > >> > > > god used Eclipse 1.0 to develop universe. >> > > > >> > > > NM >> > > > Software Developer - Buenos aires, Argentina. >> > > > >> > >> > No. Sadly, He didn't: >> > >> > http://xkcd.com/224/ >> > >> > Daniel >> > >> > >> > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@... >> > For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@... >> > >> > >> >> >> -- >> Regards, >> Vasu Srinivasan >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@... For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@... |
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Re: JDeveloper - Can I get a show of hands?
by James Carman-3
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As a DBA, you use SQL Plus? I would think most DBAs would either use the
console thingy that comes with Oracle or Toad. SQL Plus always seemed a bit limiting to me, but that's probably because of my limited knowledge of all the commands, so I need the nice GUI stuff to guide me along. :) On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 1:04 PM, Scott Swank <scott.swank@...> wrote: > And if you're an Oracle DBA your main tool is called "SQL Plus". > > On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 8:58 PM, James > Carman<jcarman@...> wrote: > > +1 to sqldeveloper (java or native). For developers (not DBAs), it's a > very > > nice tool and does what you need for the majority of the cases. > > > > On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 11:28 PM, Vasu Srinivasan <vasya10@...> > wrote: > > > >> JDeveloper is good to target a narrow Oracle infrastructure. We use it > for > >> Oracle soa suite, and there are no other IDEs / plugins which can match > >> that, it has good integration for ADF too. And thats pretty much it. > >> > >> Otherwise, it doesn't come half close to IDEA or Eclipse. The project > >> structure it generates is pretty un-intuitive. Bad IDE is indirectly > >> proportional to Productivity. Lack of good plugins is another major > reason. > >> > >> Our team has only a few licenses for TOAD, so I use sql developer (the > >> windows native version, not the java version).. Pretty happy with it, > >> though > >> it gets a bit slow at times. Last I used the java version was buggy and > >> sssslllllow. > >> > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 9:09 PM, Daniel Toffetti <dtoffe@... > >> >wrote: > >> > >> > Juan Carlos Garcia M. <jcgarciam <at> gmail.com> writes: > >> > > > >> > > I always thought God used only in LISP :) > >> > > > >> > > Nicolas Melendez wrote: > >> > > > > >> > > > god used Eclipse 1.0 to develop universe. > >> > > > > >> > > > NM > >> > > > Software Developer - Buenos aires, Argentina. > >> > > > > >> > > >> > No. Sadly, He didn't: > >> > > >> > http://xkcd.com/224/ > >> > > >> > Daniel > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@... > >> > For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@... > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Regards, > >> Vasu Srinivasan > >> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@... > For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@... > > |
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Re: JDeveloper - Can I get a show of hands?
by Scott Swank
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I'm at best 50% DBA, by training. You end up with multi-step
operations that work very well as sql*plus scripts. I also run analogous queries in TOAD, PL/SQL Dev or SQL Dev -- but no DBA worth hiring works in the click-and-drag world. But then I suppose this has gotten off topic. On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 10:37 AM, James Carman<jcarman@...> wrote: > As a DBA, you use SQL Plus? I would think most DBAs would either use the > console thingy that comes with Oracle or Toad. SQL Plus always seemed a bit > limiting to me, but that's probably because of my limited knowledge of all > the commands, so I need the nice GUI stuff to guide me along. :) > > On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 1:04 PM, Scott Swank <scott.swank@...> wrote: > >> And if you're an Oracle DBA your main tool is called "SQL Plus". >> >> On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 8:58 PM, James >> Carman<jcarman@...> wrote: >> > +1 to sqldeveloper (java or native). For developers (not DBAs), it's a >> very >> > nice tool and does what you need for the majority of the cases. >> > >> > On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 11:28 PM, Vasu Srinivasan <vasya10@...> >> wrote: >> > >> >> JDeveloper is good to target a narrow Oracle infrastructure. We use it >> for >> >> Oracle soa suite, and there are no other IDEs / plugins which can match >> >> that, it has good integration for ADF too. And thats pretty much it. >> >> >> >> Otherwise, it doesn't come half close to IDEA or Eclipse. The project >> >> structure it generates is pretty un-intuitive. Bad IDE is indirectly >> >> proportional to Productivity. Lack of good plugins is another major >> reason. >> >> >> >> Our team has only a few licenses for TOAD, so I use sql developer (the >> >> windows native version, not the java version).. Pretty happy with it, >> >> though >> >> it gets a bit slow at times. Last I used the java version was buggy and >> >> sssslllllow. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 9:09 PM, Daniel Toffetti <dtoffe@... >> >> >wrote: >> >> >> >> > Juan Carlos Garcia M. <jcgarciam <at> gmail.com> writes: >> >> > > >> >> > > I always thought God used only in LISP :) >> >> > > >> >> > > Nicolas Melendez wrote: >> >> > > > >> >> > > > god used Eclipse 1.0 to develop universe. >> >> > > > >> >> > > > NM >> >> > > > Software Developer - Buenos aires, Argentina. >> >> > > > >> >> > >> >> > No. Sadly, He didn't: >> >> > >> >> > http://xkcd.com/224/ >> >> > >> >> > Daniel >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@... >> >> > For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@... >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Regards, >> >> Vasu Srinivasan >> >> >> > >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@... >> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@... >> >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@... For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@... |
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Re: JDeveloper - Can I get a show of hands?
by Richard Allen-4
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Now that Oracle bought Sun I wonder if JDev and Netbeans will cross paths.
A great free, cross-platform SQL tool is SQuirreL ( http://squirrel-sql.sourceforge.net/). On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Scott Swank <scott.swank@...> wrote: > I'm at best 50% DBA, by training. You end up with multi-step > operations that work very well as sql*plus scripts. I also run > analogous queries in TOAD, PL/SQL Dev or SQL Dev -- but no DBA worth > hiring works in the click-and-drag world. But then I suppose this has > gotten off topic. > > On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 10:37 AM, James > Carman<jcarman@...> wrote: > > As a DBA, you use SQL Plus? I would think most DBAs would either use the > > console thingy that comes with Oracle or Toad. SQL Plus always seemed a > bit > > limiting to me, but that's probably because of my limited knowledge of > all > > the commands, so I need the nice GUI stuff to guide me along. :) > > > > On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 1:04 PM, Scott Swank <scott.swank@...> > wrote: > > > >> And if you're an Oracle DBA your main tool is called "SQL Plus". > >> > >> On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 8:58 PM, James > >> Carman<jcarman@...> wrote: > >> > +1 to sqldeveloper (java or native). For developers (not DBAs), it's > a > >> very > >> > nice tool and does what you need for the majority of the cases. > >> > > >> > On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 11:28 PM, Vasu Srinivasan <vasya10@...> > >> wrote: > >> > > >> >> JDeveloper is good to target a narrow Oracle infrastructure. We use > it > >> for > >> >> Oracle soa suite, and there are no other IDEs / plugins which can > match > >> >> that, it has good integration for ADF too. And thats pretty much it. > >> >> > >> >> Otherwise, it doesn't come half close to IDEA or Eclipse. The project > >> >> structure it generates is pretty un-intuitive. Bad IDE is indirectly > >> >> proportional to Productivity. Lack of good plugins is another major > >> reason. > >> >> > >> >> Our team has only a few licenses for TOAD, so I use sql developer > (the > >> >> windows native version, not the java version).. Pretty happy with it, > >> >> though > >> >> it gets a bit slow at times. Last I used the java version was buggy > and > >> >> sssslllllow. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 9:09 PM, Daniel Toffetti < > dtoffe@... > >> >> >wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > Juan Carlos Garcia M. <jcgarciam <at> gmail.com> writes: > >> >> > > > >> >> > > I always thought God used only in LISP :) > >> >> > > > >> >> > > Nicolas Melendez wrote: > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > god used Eclipse 1.0 to develop universe. > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > NM > >> >> > > > Software Developer - Buenos aires, Argentina. > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > >> >> > No. Sadly, He didn't: > >> >> > > >> >> > http://xkcd.com/224/ > >> >> > > >> >> > Daniel > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@... > >> >> > For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@... > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> Regards, > >> >> Vasu Srinivasan > >> >> > >> > > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@... > >> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@... > >> > >> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@... > For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@... > > |
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Re: JDeveloper - Can I get a show of hands?
by John Armstrong-3
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Since we are plugging our favorite DB tools I swear by Database
Workbench Pro (http://www.upscene.com/). The author is extremely responsive (he'll give you a custom build, usually in 48 hours, when you find a bug), it supports a nice variety of databases and has some killer tools like cross-database data migration, schema migration, schema differentiation, ERD generation etc etc. Check it out, well worth the money but Windows only so I find myself in VMWare with it these days. John- On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 4:55 AM, Richard Allen<richard.l.allen@...> wrote: > Now that Oracle bought Sun I wonder if JDev and Netbeans will cross paths. > > A great free, cross-platform SQL tool is SQuirreL ( > http://squirrel-sql.sourceforge.net/). > > > On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Scott Swank <scott.swank@...> wrote: > >> I'm at best 50% DBA, by training. You end up with multi-step >> operations that work very well as sql*plus scripts. I also run >> analogous queries in TOAD, PL/SQL Dev or SQL Dev -- but no DBA worth >> hiring works in the click-and-drag world. But then I suppose this has >> gotten off topic. >> >> On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 10:37 AM, James >> Carman<jcarman@...> wrote: >> > As a DBA, you use SQL Plus? I would think most DBAs would either use the >> > console thingy that comes with Oracle or Toad. SQL Plus always seemed a >> bit >> > limiting to me, but that's probably because of my limited knowledge of >> all >> > the commands, so I need the nice GUI stuff to guide me along. :) >> > >> > On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 1:04 PM, Scott Swank <scott.swank@...> >> wrote: >> > >> >> And if you're an Oracle DBA your main tool is called "SQL Plus". >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 8:58 PM, James >> >> Carman<jcarman@...> wrote: >> >> > +1 to sqldeveloper (java or native). For developers (not DBAs), it's >> a >> >> very >> >> > nice tool and does what you need for the majority of the cases. >> >> > >> >> > On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 11:28 PM, Vasu Srinivasan <vasya10@...> >> >> wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> JDeveloper is good to target a narrow Oracle infrastructure. We use >> it >> >> for >> >> >> Oracle soa suite, and there are no other IDEs / plugins which can >> match >> >> >> that, it has good integration for ADF too. And thats pretty much it. >> >> >> >> >> >> Otherwise, it doesn't come half close to IDEA or Eclipse. The project >> >> >> structure it generates is pretty un-intuitive. Bad IDE is indirectly >> >> >> proportional to Productivity. Lack of good plugins is another major >> >> reason. >> >> >> >> >> >> Our team has only a few licenses for TOAD, so I use sql developer >> (the >> >> >> windows native version, not the java version).. Pretty happy with it, >> >> >> though >> >> >> it gets a bit slow at times. Last I used the java version was buggy >> and >> >> >> sssslllllow. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 9:09 PM, Daniel Toffetti < >> dtoffe@... >> >> >> >wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> > Juan Carlos Garcia M. <jcgarciam <at> gmail.com> writes: >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > I always thought God used only in LISP :) >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > Nicolas Melendez wrote: >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > god used Eclipse 1.0 to develop universe. >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > NM >> >> >> > > > Software Developer - Buenos aires, Argentina. >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > No. Sadly, He didn't: >> >> >> > >> >> >> > http://xkcd.com/224/ >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Daniel >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@... >> >> >> > For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@... >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> Regards, >> >> >> Vasu Srinivasan >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@... >> >> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@... >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@... >> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@... >> >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@... For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@... |
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Re: JDeveloper - Can I get a show of hands?
by Peter Ertl
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looks nice, but no support for postgresql :-(
Am 02.07.2009 um 21:54 schrieb John Armstrong: > Since we are plugging our favorite DB tools I swear by Database > Workbench Pro (http://www.upscene.com/). The author is extremely > responsive (he'll give you a custom build, usually in 48 hours, when > you find a bug), it supports a nice variety of databases and has some > killer tools like cross-database data migration, schema migration, > schema differentiation, ERD generation etc etc. > > Check it out, well worth the money but Windows only so I find myself > in VMWare with it these days. > > John- > > On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 4:55 AM, Richard Allen<richard.l.allen@... > > wrote: >> Now that Oracle bought Sun I wonder if JDev and Netbeans will cross >> paths. >> >> A great free, cross-platform SQL tool is SQuirreL ( >> http://squirrel-sql.sourceforge.net/). >> >> >> On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Scott Swank >> <scott.swank@...> wrote: >> >>> I'm at best 50% DBA, by training. You end up with multi-step >>> operations that work very well as sql*plus scripts. I also run >>> analogous queries in TOAD, PL/SQL Dev or SQL Dev -- but no DBA worth >>> hiring works in the click-and-drag world. But then I suppose this >>> has >>> gotten off topic. >>> >>> On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 10:37 AM, James >>> Carman<jcarman@...> wrote: >>>> As a DBA, you use SQL Plus? I would think most DBAs would either >>>> use the >>>> console thingy that comes with Oracle or Toad. SQL Plus always >>>> seemed a >>> bit >>>> limiting to me, but that's probably because of my limited >>>> knowledge of >>> all >>>> the commands, so I need the nice GUI stuff to guide me along. :) >>>> >>>> On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 1:04 PM, Scott Swank >>>> <scott.swank@...> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> And if you're an Oracle DBA your main tool is called "SQL Plus". >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 8:58 PM, James >>>>> Carman<jcarman@...> wrote: >>>>>> +1 to sqldeveloper (java or native). For developers (not >>>>>> DBAs), it's >>> a >>>>> very >>>>>> nice tool and does what you need for the majority of the cases. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 11:28 PM, Vasu Srinivasan <vasya10@... >>>>>> > >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> JDeveloper is good to target a narrow Oracle infrastructure. >>>>>>> We use >>> it >>>>> for >>>>>>> Oracle soa suite, and there are no other IDEs / plugins which >>>>>>> can >>> match >>>>>>> that, it has good integration for ADF too. And thats pretty >>>>>>> much it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Otherwise, it doesn't come half close to IDEA or Eclipse. The >>>>>>> project >>>>>>> structure it generates is pretty un-intuitive. Bad IDE is >>>>>>> indirectly >>>>>>> proportional to Productivity. Lack of good plugins is another >>>>>>> major >>>>> reason. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Our team has only a few licenses for TOAD, so I use sql >>>>>>> developer >>> (the >>>>>>> windows native version, not the java version).. Pretty happy >>>>>>> with it, >>>>>>> though >>>>>>> it gets a bit slow at times. Last I used the java version was >>>>>>> buggy >>> and >>>>>>> sssslllllow. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 9:09 PM, Daniel Toffetti < >>> dtoffe@... >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Juan Carlos Garcia M. <jcgarciam <at> gmail.com> writes: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I always thought God used only in LISP :) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Nicolas Melendez wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> god used Eclipse 1.0 to develop universe. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> NM >>>>>>>>>> Software Developer - Buenos aires, Argentina. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> No. Sadly, He didn't: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://xkcd.com/224/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Daniel >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@... >>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> Vasu Srinivasan >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@... >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@... >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@... >>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@... >>> >>> >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@... > For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@... For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@... |
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