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JPA Eclipse Plugins vs JDev Toplink

by Frans Thamura-2 :: Rate this Message:

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hi there

we know that eclipselink now 1.0 and we know there is JPA Plugins in
Eclipse part of WTP

and we also know the cool click and drag toplink feature in JDev

anyone can share, is the eclipselink 1.0 feature mapped 100% in JPA
Plugins for Eclipse (WTP)

and will the JDev feature inside this WTP?

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Re: JPA Eclipse Plugins vs JDev Toplink

by tch :: Rate this Message:

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What do you mean click and drag toplink feature in JDev?

I never used toplink in Jdev, but if you're worried about Eclipse vs
JDev as far as IDE's go, it's hard to beat Eclipse for most projects.

./tch



On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 7:55 PM, Frans Thamura <frans@...> wrote:

> hi there
>
> we know that eclipselink now 1.0 and we know there is JPA Plugins in
> Eclipse part of WTP
>
> and we also know the cool click and drag toplink feature in JDev
>
> anyone can share, is the eclipselink 1.0 feature mapped 100% in JPA
> Plugins for Eclipse (WTP)
>
> and will the JDev feature inside this WTP?
>
> --
> --
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> Meruvian Foundation
>
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Re: JPA Eclipse Plugins vs JDev Toplink

by Gaurav Malhotra :: Rate this Message:

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Use best of both the world.

I used JDev to generate my entities i.e. JPA entities (Cool feature so called

and for the rest I used Eclipse/DALI

Frans Thamura-2 wrote:
hi there

we know that eclipselink now 1.0 and we know there is JPA Plugins in
Eclipse part of WTP

and we also know the cool click and drag toplink feature in JDev

anyone can share, is the eclipselink 1.0 feature mapped 100% in JPA
Plugins for Eclipse (WTP)

and will the JDev feature inside this WTP?

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Re: JPA Eclipse Plugins vs JDev Toplink

by Frans Thamura-2 :: Rate this Message:

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On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 7:12 PM, Gaurav Malhotra
<gaurav.malhotra@...> wrote:
>
> Use best of both the world.
>
> I used JDev to generate my entities i.e. JPA entities (Cool feature so
> called =)
>
> and for the rest I used Eclipse/DALI
>
>

this is cool steps also

can share the step

but that will be cool if directly on eclipse, will dali have this
feature in the future?

why.. i want this..

1. eclipse have more container support than JDev
2. JDev sounds like just oracle IDE for ADF run on OC4J and Weblogic,
which JBoss also there, but is there JBoss programmer use JDev???

the ADF is propietary on JSF, and US$ 5000 to deploy outside OC4J,


but the Toplink Wizard is amazing..
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Re: JPA Eclipse Plugins vs JDev Toplink

by tch :: Rate this Message:

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Dali does a perfectly serviceable job of generating entities, we've
used it for hundreds of complex tables with relationships, etc. and it
definitely beats doing it by hand.  It will only get better, and it's
open source so if there are features we want we can always contribute
them.

./tch



On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 7:42 PM, Frans Thamura <frans@...> wrote:

> On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 7:12 PM, Gaurav Malhotra
> <gaurav.malhotra@...> wrote:
>>
>> Use best of both the world.
>>
>> I used JDev to generate my entities i.e. JPA entities (Cool feature so
>> called =)
>>
>> and for the rest I used Eclipse/DALI
>>
>>
>
> this is cool steps also
>
> can share the step
>
> but that will be cool if directly on eclipse, will dali have this
> feature in the future?
>
> why.. i want this..
>
> 1. eclipse have more container support than JDev
> 2. JDev sounds like just oracle IDE for ADF run on OC4J and Weblogic,
> which JBoss also there, but is there JBoss programmer use JDev???
>
> the ADF is propietary on JSF, and US$ 5000 to deploy outside OC4J,
>
>
> but the Toplink Wizard is amazing..
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Re: JPA Eclipse Plugins vs JDev Toplink

by Frans Thamura-2 :: Rate this Message:

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On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 6:45 AM, Tim Hollosy <hollosyt@...> wrote:
> Dali does a perfectly serviceable job of generating entities, we've
> used it for hundreds of complex tables with relationships, etc. and it
> definitely beats doing it by hand.  It will only get better, and it's
> open source so if there are features we want we can always contribute


i tried it, and compare with my own JPA entity, there is an extra
class, (like common class for me)

any idea?

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Re: JPA Eclipse Plugins vs JDev Toplink

by tch :: Rate this Message:

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You like to use a base class for your entities and Dali doesn't have a
way to create one? If that's the problem, you're right at this time
Dali doesn't support that at this time, though I'm sure it'll be
coming soon.  In the mean time it's not hard to make those changes
using the Eclipse IDE tools...refactoring, etc.

./tch



On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 8:29 PM, Frans Thamura <frans@...> wrote:

> On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 6:45 AM, Tim Hollosy <hollosyt@...> wrote:
>> Dali does a perfectly serviceable job of generating entities, we've
>> used it for hundreds of complex tables with relationships, etc. and it
>> definitely beats doing it by hand.  It will only get better, and it's
>> open source so if there are features we want we can always contribute
>
>
> i tried it, and compare with my own JPA entity, there is an extra
> class, (like common class for me)
>
> any idea?
>
> F
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Re: JPA Eclipse Plugins vs JDev Toplink

by Frans Thamura-2 :: Rate this Message:

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On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 7:47 AM, Tim Hollosy <hollosyt@...> wrote:
> You like to use a base class for your entities and Dali doesn't have a
> way to create one? If that's the problem, you're right at this time
> Dali doesn't support that at this time, though I'm sure it'll be
> coming soon.  In the mean time it's not hard to make those changes
> using the Eclipse IDE tools...refactoring, etc.
>

i want a POJO and JPA that exactly same . so make it efficient

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Re: JPA Eclipse Plugins vs JDev Toplink

by Gaurav Malhotra :: Rate this Message:

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My Aim:- Generate the initial entity from the DB schema

I have been using eclipse for so long almost 6 year know. (IDE of my first choice)

I tried DALI to generate the entity classes but I was not successful. That is the reason, I used JDev

[I am using Dali Java Persistence API (JPA) Tools v 1.0.2]

Could you please point me to the tutorial, which tells how to reverse engineer/generate entity from the db schema? Or I am using the wrong version!!!!

I will really appreciate any pointers in this regard.

GM

Frans Thamura-2 wrote:
hi there

we know that eclipselink now 1.0 and we know there is JPA Plugins in
Eclipse part of WTP

and we also know the cool click and drag toplink feature in JDev

anyone can share, is the eclipselink 1.0 feature mapped 100% in JPA
Plugins for Eclipse (WTP)

and will the JDev feature inside this WTP?

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Re: JPA Eclipse Plugins vs JDev Toplink

by tch :: Rate this Message:

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You create a new JPA project, then right click on the project and go
to JPA Tools->Generate Entities...

./tch



On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 3:18 AM, Gaurav Malhotra
<gaurav.malhotra@...> wrote:

>
> My Aim:- Generate the initial entity from the DB schema
>
> I have been using eclipse for so long almost 6 year know. (IDE of my first
> choice)
>
> I tried DALI to generate the entity classes but I was not successful. That
> is the reason, I used JDev
>
> [I am using Dali Java Persistence API (JPA) Tools v 1.0.2]
>
> Could you please point me to the tutorial, which tells how to reverse
> engineer/generate entity from the db schema? Or I am using the wrong
> version!!!!
>
> I will really appreciate any pointers in this regard.
>
> GM
>
>
> Frans Thamura-2 wrote:
>>
>> hi there
>>
>> we know that eclipselink now 1.0 and we know there is JPA Plugins in
>> Eclipse part of WTP
>>
>> and we also know the cool click and drag toplink feature in JDev
>>
>> anyone can share, is the eclipselink 1.0 feature mapped 100% in JPA
>> Plugins for Eclipse (WTP)
>>
>> and will the JDev feature inside this WTP?
>>
>> --
>> --
>> Frans Thamura
>> Meruvian Foundation
>>
>> Mobile: +62 855 7888 699
>> YM: fthamura@...
>> GTalk: frans@...
>> Skype: fthamura
>> Linkedin: http://www.linkedin.com/in/fthamura
>>
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Re: JPA Eclipse Plugins vs JDev Toplink

by Neil Hauge :: Rate this Message:

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See section 3.7 in the Dali User Guide - http://www.eclipse.org/dali/docs/dali_user_guide.pdf.

You could upgrade to Dali 2.0 (in WTP 3.0), available here - http://download.eclipse.org/webtools/downloads/ or via the Update Manager, but this functionality is also available in 1.0.2.

What type of problem did you run into?  Also, feel free to take this discussion to the Dali newsgroups.

http://www.eclipse.org/newsportal/thread.php?group=eclipse.technology.dali
news://news.eclipse.org/eclipse.technology.dali

Neil


Gaurav Malhotra wrote:
My Aim:- Generate the initial entity from the DB schema

I have been using eclipse for so long almost 6 year know. (IDE of my first
choice)

I tried DALI to generate the entity classes but I was not successful. That
is the reason, I used JDev

[I am using Dali Java Persistence API (JPA) Tools v 1.0.2]

Could you please point me to the tutorial, which tells how to reverse
engineer/generate entity from the db schema? Or I am using the wrong
version!!!!

I will really appreciate any pointers in this regard.

GM


Frans Thamura-2 wrote:
  
hi there

we know that eclipselink now 1.0 and we know there is JPA Plugins in
Eclipse part of WTP

and we also know the cool click and drag toplink feature in JDev

anyone can share, is the eclipselink 1.0 feature mapped 100% in JPA
Plugins for Eclipse (WTP)

and will the JDev feature inside this WTP?

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Re: JPA Eclipse Plugins vs JDev Toplink

by Neil Hauge :: Rate this Message:

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Link Correction:

For Dali 1.x - See section 3.8 in the Dali 1.0 User Guide - http://www.eclipse.org/webtools/dali/docs/dali_user_guide_1.0.pdf

For Dali 2.x - See section 3.10 in the Dali 2.0 User Guide - http://www.eclipse.org/webtools/dali/docs/dali_user_guide.pdf


Neil Hauge wrote:
See section 3.7 in the Dali User Guide - http://www.eclipse.org/dali/docs/dali_user_guide.pdf.

You could upgrade to Dali 2.0 (in WTP 3.0), available here - http://download.eclipse.org/webtools/downloads/ or via the Update Manager, but this functionality is also available in 1.0.2.

What type of problem did you run into?  Also, feel free to take this discussion to the Dali newsgroups.

http://www.eclipse.org/newsportal/thread.php?group=eclipse.technology.dali
news://news.eclipse.org/eclipse.technology.dali

Neil


Gaurav Malhotra wrote:
My Aim:- Generate the initial entity from the DB schema

I have been using eclipse for so long almost 6 year know. (IDE of my first
choice)

I tried DALI to generate the entity classes but I was not successful. That
is the reason, I used JDev

[I am using Dali Java Persistence API (JPA) Tools v 1.0.2]

Could you please point me to the tutorial, which tells how to reverse
engineer/generate entity from the db schema? Or I am using the wrong
version!!!!

I will really appreciate any pointers in this regard.

GM


Frans Thamura-2 wrote:
  
hi there

we know that eclipselink now 1.0 and we know there is JPA Plugins in
Eclipse part of WTP

and we also know the cool click and drag toplink feature in JDev

anyone can share, is the eclipselink 1.0 feature mapped 100% in JPA
Plugins for Eclipse (WTP)

and will the JDev feature inside this WTP?

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