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by Marc Khouzam :: Rate this Message:

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Hi,
 
I noticed that the two new plugins cdt.build and cdt.build.ui require Java 6.
I was wondering if that was a concious decision?  Are we requiring Java 6 for the CDT for Helios?
If not necessary, I would suggest we stick with java 5.
 
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Re: Java 5 vs Java 6

by Doug Schaefer-4 :: Rate this Message:

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I'm just whipping those together, it's just what PDE set them to. I'm not doing anything Java 6 specific in there. Feel free to change it if you need.

We should take notice though that Java 5 has been end of life'd by Sun as of Oct 31.

Doug.

On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Marc Khouzam <marc.khouzam@...> wrote:
Hi,
 
I noticed that the two new plugins cdt.build and cdt.build.ui require Java 6.
I was wondering if that was a concious decision?  Are we requiring Java 6 for the CDT for Helios?
If not necessary, I would suggest we stick with java 5.
 
Thanks
 
Marc
 
 

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Re: Java 5 vs Java 6

by Nayna Jain-2 :: Rate this Message:

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Hi all,


There are two tables listed here giving details about J2SE release and
support dates - http://java.sun.com/products/archive/eol.policy.html

Which dates among these actually matters ?


Thanks & Regards,
Nayna Jain



                                                                       
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I'm just whipping those together, it's just what PDE set them to. I'm not
doing anything Java 6 specific in there. Feel free to change it if you
need.

We should take notice though that Java 5 has been end of life'd by Sun as
of Oct 31.

Doug.

On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Marc Khouzam <marc.khouzam@...>
wrote:
  Hi,

  I noticed that the two new plugins cdt.build and cdt.build.ui require
  Java 6.
  I was wondering if that was a concious decision?  Are we requiring Java 6
  for the CDT for Helios?
  If not necessary, I would suggest we stick with java 5.

  Thanks

  Marc



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by John Cortell-4 :: Rate this Message:

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Doug, the build.ui plugin also has a dependency on org.eclipse.ui with a min version of 3.6. But CDT HEAD does not yet official require 3.6(M?)...this was suggested a while back but we said we weren't ready.

Basically, developers are running into problems because these plugins you're whipping up are in the 'all' grouping in cvs. Shouldn't these experimental plugins be in a dedicated area (as was done with various other projects, e.g., edc, jtag, dsf), thus not being part of what everyone automatically downloads from cvs?

John

At 12:56 PM 11/13/2009, Doug Schaefer wrote:
I'm just whipping those together, it's just what PDE set them to. I'm not doing anything Java 6 specific in there. Feel free to change it if you need.

We should take notice though that Java 5 has been end of life'd by Sun as of Oct 31.

Doug.

On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Marc Khouzam <marc.khouzam@...> wrote:
Hi,
 
I noticed that the two new plugins cdt.build and cdt.build.ui require Java 6.
I was wondering if that was a concious decision?  Are we requiring Java 6 for the CDT for Helios?
If not necessary, I would suggest we stick with java 5.
 
Thanks
 
Marc
 
 

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Re: Java 5 vs Java 6

by Doug Schaefer-4 :: Rate this Message:

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Hmm. The all folder wasn't intended to be a downloadable unit. In fact we had the refactoring plug-ins in there for quite a while after their contents moved to the core. We have a team project set up on the wiki (which may be old by now) at http://wiki.eclipse.org/CDT/projectSets. Please update it if it is incorrect. It is the official way for developers to set up their workspaces.

I don't want to have to move the plug-ins later which is a pain on it's own, that's why I put them in the all folder. While they are experimental now, my intention is to make them real later, or delete them if we don't like them.

Doug.

On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 4:04 PM, John Cortell <rat042@...> wrote:
Doug, the build.ui plugin also has a dependency on org.eclipse.ui with a min version of 3.6. But CDT HEAD does not yet official require 3.6(M?)...this was suggested a while back but we said we weren't ready.

Basically, developers are running into problems because these plugins you're whipping up are in the 'all' grouping in cvs. Shouldn't these experimental plugins be in a dedicated area (as was done with various other projects, e.g., edc, jtag, dsf), thus not being part of what everyone automatically downloads from cvs?

John


At 12:56 PM 11/13/2009, Doug Schaefer wrote:
I'm just whipping those together, it's just what PDE set them to. I'm not doing anything Java 6 specific in there. Feel free to change it if you need.

We should take notice though that Java 5 has been end of life'd by Sun as of Oct 31.

Doug.

On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Marc Khouzam <marc.khouzam@...> wrote:
Hi,
 
I noticed that the two new plugins cdt.build and cdt.build.ui require Java 6.
I was wondering if that was a concious decision?  Are we requiring Java 6 for the CDT for Helios?
If not necessary, I would suggest we stick with java 5.
 
Thanks
 
Marc
 
 

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by John Cortell-4 :: Rate this Message:

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Ah. OK; wasn't aware of that project set. I always just grabbed what was in 'all'. I'll use the project set from now on.

John

At 03:15 PM 11/16/2009, Doug Schaefer wrote:
Hmm. The all folder wasn't intended to be a downloadable unit. In fact we had the refactoring plug-ins in there for quite a while after their contents moved to the core. We have a team project set up on the wiki (which may be old by now) at http://wiki.eclipse.org/CDT/projectSets. Please update it if it is incorrect. It is the official way for developers to set up their workspaces.

I don't want to have to move the plug-ins later which is a pain on it's own, that's why I put them in the all folder. While they are experimental now, my intention is to make them real later, or delete them if we don't like them.

Doug.

On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 4:04 PM, John Cortell <rat042@...> wrote:
Doug, the build.ui plugin also has a dependency on org.eclipse.ui with a min version of 3.6. But CDT HEAD does not yet official require 3.6(M?)...this was suggested a while back but we said we weren't ready.

Basically, developers are running into problems because these plugins you're whipping up are in the 'all' grouping in cvs. Shouldn't these experimental plugins be in a dedicated area (as was done with various other projects, e.g., edc, jtag, dsf), thus not being part of what everyone automatically downloads from cvs?

John


At 12:56 PM 11/13/2009, Doug Schaefer wrote:
I'm just whipping those together, it's just what PDE set them to. I'm not doing anything Java 6 specific in there. Feel free to change it if you need.

We should take notice though that Java 5 has been end of life'd by Sun as of Oct 31.

Doug.

On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Marc Khouzam <marc.khouzam@...> wrote:
Hi,
 
I noticed that the two new plugins cdt.build and cdt.build.ui require Java 6.
I was wondering if that was a concious decision?  Are we requiring Java 6 for the CDT for Helios?
If not necessary, I would suggest we stick with java 5.
 
Thanks
 
Marc
 
 
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Re: Java 5 vs Java 6

by Marc-Andre Laperle-2 :: Rate this Message:

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I think it would be great to have the project set on the project page
like that:

http://eclipsesource.com/blogs/2009/11/13/wheres-your-project-set-getting-eclipse-sources-easily/

Also, the update site is still Ganymede.

Marc-Andre

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> Ah. OK; wasn't aware of that project set. I always just grabbed what
> was in 'all'. I'll use the project set from now on.
>
> John
>
> At 03:15 PM 11/16/2009, Doug Schaefer wrote:
>> Hmm. The all folder wasn't intended to be a downloadable unit. In
>> fact we had the refactoring plug-ins in there for quite a while after
>> their contents moved to the core. We have a team project set up on
>> the wiki (which may be old by now) at
>> http://wiki.eclipse.org/CDT/projectSets. Please update it if it is
>> incorrect. It is the official way for developers to set up their
>> workspaces.
>>
>> I don't want to have to move the plug-ins later which is a pain on
>> it's own, that's why I put them in the all folder. While they are
>> experimental now, my intention is to make them real later, or delete
>> them if we don't like them.
>>
>> Doug.
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 4:04 PM, John Cortell <rat042@...
>> <mailto:rat042@...>> wrote:
>>
>>     Doug, the build.ui plugin also has a dependency on org.eclipse.ui
>>     with a min version of 3.6. But CDT HEAD does not yet official
>>     require 3.6(M?)...this was suggested a while back but we said we
>>     weren't ready.
>>
>>     Basically, developers are running into problems because these
>>     plugins you're whipping up are in the 'all' grouping in cvs.
>>     Shouldn't these experimental plugins be in a dedicated area (as
>>     was done with various other projects, e.g., edc, jtag, dsf), thus
>>     not being part of what everyone automatically downloads from cvs?
>>
>>     John
>>
>>
>>     At 12:56 PM 11/13/2009, Doug Schaefer wrote:
>>>         I'm just whipping those together, it's just what PDE set
>>>         them to. I'm not doing anything Java 6 specific in there.
>>>         Feel free to change it if you need.
>>>
>>>         We should take notice though that Java 5 has been end of
>>>         life'd by Sun as of Oct 31.
>>>
>>>         Doug.
>>>
>>>         On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Marc Khouzam <
>>>         marc.khouzam@...
>>>         <mailto:marc.khouzam@...>> wrote:
>>>
>>>             Hi,
>>>              
>>>             I noticed that the two new plugins cdt.build and
>>>             cdt.build.ui require Java 6.
>>>             I was wondering if that was a concious decision?  Are we
>>>             requiring Java 6 for the CDT for Helios?
>>>             If not necessary, I would suggest we stick with java 5.
>>>              
>>>             Thanks
>>>              
>>>             Marc
>>>              
>>>              
>>>             _______________________________________________
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Re: Java 5 vs Java 6

by Doug Schaefer-4 :: Rate this Message:

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Agreed. The web site really needs some attention. We get it in spurts, but falls out of date easily.

2009/11/16 Marc-Andre Laperle <malaperle@...>
I think it would be great to have the project set on the project page like that:

http://eclipsesource.com/blogs/2009/11/13/wheres-your-project-set-getting-eclipse-sources-easily/

Also, the update site is still Ganymede.

Marc-Andre

John Cortell wrote:
Ah. OK; wasn't aware of that project set. I always just grabbed what was in 'all'. I'll use the project set from now on.

John

At 03:15 PM 11/16/2009, Doug Schaefer wrote:
Hmm. The all folder wasn't intended to be a downloadable unit. In fact we had the refactoring plug-ins in there for quite a while after their contents moved to the core. We have a team project set up on the wiki (which may be old by now) at http://wiki.eclipse.org/CDT/projectSets. Please update it if it is incorrect. It is the official way for developers to set up their workspaces.

I don't want to have to move the plug-ins later which is a pain on it's own, that's why I put them in the all folder. While they are experimental now, my intention is to make them real later, or delete them if we don't like them.

Doug.

On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 4:04 PM, John Cortell <rat042@... <mailto:rat042@...>> wrote:

   Doug, the build.ui plugin also has a dependency on org.eclipse.ui
   with a min version of 3.6. But CDT HEAD does not yet official
   require 3.6(M?)...this was suggested a while back but we said we
   weren't ready.

   Basically, developers are running into problems because these
   plugins you're whipping up are in the 'all' grouping in cvs.
   Shouldn't these experimental plugins be in a dedicated area (as
   was done with various other projects, e.g., edc, jtag, dsf), thus
   not being part of what everyone automatically downloads from cvs?

   John


   At 12:56 PM 11/13/2009, Doug Schaefer wrote:
       I'm just whipping those together, it's just what PDE set
       them to. I'm not doing anything Java 6 specific in there.
       Feel free to change it if you need.

       We should take notice though that Java 5 has been end of
       life'd by Sun as of Oct 31.

       Doug.

       On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Marc Khouzam <
       marc.khouzam@...
       <mailto:marc.khouzam@...>> wrote:

           Hi,                          I noticed that the two new plugins cdt.build and
           cdt.build.ui require Java 6.            I was wondering if that was a concious decision?  Are we
           requiring Java 6 for the CDT for Helios?            If not necessary, I would suggest we stick with java 5.                          Thanks                          Marc                                      _______________________________________________            cdt-dev mailing list            cdt-dev@... <mailto:cdt-dev@...>            https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/cdt-dev


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I added the project-set reference to the site. I also tested the set; all the plugins checked out by the psf build successfully. Of course, it's possible new plugins have come along that should be in the set but no one has updated the psf.

John

At 03:51 PM 11/16/2009, Doug Schaefer wrote:
Agreed. The web site really needs some attention. We get it in spurts, but falls out of date easily.

2009/11/16 Marc-Andre Laperle <malaperle@... >
I think it would be great to have the project set on the project page like that:

http://eclipsesource.com/blogs/2009/11/13/wheres-your-project-set-getting-eclipse-sources-easily/

Also, the update site is still Ganymede.

Marc-Andre

John Cortell wrote:
Ah. OK; wasn't aware of that project set. I always just grabbed what was in 'all'. I'll use the project set from now on.

John

At 03:15 PM 11/16/2009, Doug Schaefer wrote:
Hmm. The all folder wasn't intended to be a downloadable unit. In fact we had the refactoring plug-ins in there for quite a while after their contents moved to the core. We have a team project set up on the wiki (which may be old by now) at http://wiki.eclipse.org/CDT/projectSets. Please update it if it is incorrect. It is the official way for developers to set up their workspaces.

I don't want to have to move the plug-ins later which is a pain on it's own, that's why I put them in the all folder. While they are experimental now, my intention is to make them real later, or delete them if we don't like them.

Doug.

On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 4:04 PM, John Cortell <rat042@... <rat042@...>> wrote:

   Doug, the build.ui plugin also has a dependency on org.eclipse.ui
   with a min version of 3.6. But CDT HEAD does not yet official
   require 3.6(M?)...this was suggested a while back but we said we
   weren't ready.

   Basically, developers are running into problems because these
   plugins you're whipping up are in the 'all' grouping in cvs.
   Shouldn't these experimental plugins be in a dedicated area (as
   was done with various other projects, e.g., edc, jtag, dsf), thus
   not being part of what everyone automatically downloads from cvs?

   John


   At 12:56 PM 11/13/2009, Doug Schaefer wrote:
       I'm just whipping those together, it's just what PDE set
       them to. I'm not doing anything Java 6 specific in there.
       Feel free to change it if you need.

       We should take notice though that Java 5 has been end of
       life'd by Sun as of Oct 31.

       Doug.

       On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Marc Khouzam <
       marc.khouzam@...
       <marc.khouzam@...>> wrote:

           Hi,                          I noticed that the two new plugins cdt.build and
           cdt.build.ui require Java 6.            I was wondering if that was a concious decision?  Are we
           requiring Java 6 for the CDT for Helios?            If not necessary, I would suggest we stick with java 5.                          Thanks                          Marc                                      _______________________________________________            cdt-dev mailing list            cdt-dev@... <cdt-dev@... >            https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/cdt-dev


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