Jazzmutant Lemur

[Hjalte Møller]

Hi,

I'm quite a happe Lemur user, and I'm looking for Classes for the lemur ?

Has anyone know if anything is written already ?

I'm about to start writing my own, but I'm quite new to writing classes.
So if somebody already did it better than I can, I shouldn't invent the wooden wheel again.

I'm also interested in sharing lemur patches and exchanging ideas...

Best,- Hjalte

[Axel Balley-3]

Hi Hjalte,
Have you checked out the SuperSampler example in the Lemur example  
package ?
Also be sure to read the "Colliding with the Lemur" workshop on our  
website : http://www.jazzmutant.com/workshop_tutorialslist.php?id=supercollider
I have a few patches of my own that I hope to finish and share when I  
find some time. In the mean time, I'll be glad to provide any  
assistance here or on the forum :)

Cheers,

--
Axel
JazzMutant

Le 22 avr. 09 à 14:04, Hjalte Møller a écrit :

> Hi,
>
> I'm quite a happe Lemur user, and I'm looking for Classes for the  
> lemur ?
>
> Has anyone know if anything is written already ?
>
> I'm about to start writing my own, but I'm quite new to writing  
> classes.
> So if somebody already did it better than I can, I shouldn't invent  
> the wooden wheel again.
>
> I'm also interested in sharing lemur patches and exchanging ideas...
>
> Best,- Hjalte

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[Martin Vognsen-4]

Hej Hjalte

If it's just about talking to the Lemur:

I may be mistaking, but I seem to remember that the class they  
provide is a bit  buggy (?)
I suppose it provides a slight convenience of managing NetAddr (not  
much to manage, really) and OSCresponderNode's.

But actually I think it's already so straight forward to communicate  
with the Lemur without any additional classes that I just didn't  
bother installing it. The combo works extremely well out of the box.  
I try to do as much of the scripting as possible in SC rather than on  
the Lemur, you really appreciate how smooth and stable SC is when  
you've been scripting the Lemur for a while, plus you quickly run out  
of memory on the Lemur. I guess it's also a question of temper, but I  
like to just connect the thing and start building, working in patches  
rather than class based systems, so that I can constantly change code  
without having to recompile. (Though classes can be convenient for  
sure, where would we be without them!)

Martin

ps - nice to see a local supercollidist, btw...


Den 22/04/2009 kl. 14.04 skrev Hjalte Møller:

> Hi,
>
> I'm quite a happe Lemur user, and I'm looking for Classes for the  
> lemur ?
>
> Has anyone know if anything is written already ?
>
> I'm about to start writing my own, but I'm quite new to writing  
> classes.
> So if somebody already did it better than I can, I shouldn't invent  
> the wooden wheel again.
>
> I'm also interested in sharing lemur patches and exchanging ideas...
>
> Best,- Hjalte

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[Hjalte Møller]

Hi all,

Thanks for the replies :)

I also find communication with lemur quite simple in sc, but still feel it could be easier. I thought writing classes would be hard, but my new LemurObject class is comming along nicely, and I've made an automatic lemur gui extention for the Patch class, which is really nice to :) It works like the patch, except the interface shows up on the lemur in a popup window...

LemurObject is almost self explanatory. It just takes a path to the object on the lemur,
and then all can be accesed thru methods.

I will share when I'm finished...

Axel - can we please have a hide attribute to the lemur objects ?
- and scriptable objects :P
i.e. a message to lemur
[ 'newObject', 'Fader', 'Interface', '/Container/Fader', 0, 10, 100, 100 ]
the four last items being rect...
and a delete also, which could work as an attribute, or just
[ 'delete', '/Container/Fader' ]

Hej Martin,

Hvor I danmark kommer du fra ?

Best, Hjalte

2009/4/22 Martin Vognsen <gnormaninvest@...>

Hej Hjalte

If it's just about talking to the Lemur:

I may be mistaking, but I seem to remember that the class they provide is a bit  buggy (?)
I suppose it provides a slight convenience of managing NetAddr (not much to manage, really) and OSCresponderNode's.

But actually I think it's already so straight forward to communicate with the Lemur without any additional classes that I just didn't bother installing it. The combo works extremely well out of the box. I try to do as much of the scripting as possible in SC rather than on the Lemur, you really appreciate how smooth and stable SC is when you've been scripting the Lemur for a while, plus you quickly run out of memory on the Lemur. I guess it's also a question of temper, but I like to just connect the thing and start building, working in patches rather than class based systems, so that I can constantly change code without having to recompile. (Though classes can be convenient for sure, where would we be without them!)

Martin

ps - nice to see a local supercollidist, btw...


Den 22/04/2009 kl. 14.04 skrev Hjalte Møller:

Hi,

I'm quite a happe Lemur user, and I'm looking for Classes for the lemur ?

Has anyone know if anything is written already ?

I'm about to start writing my own, but I'm quite new to writing classes.
So if somebody already did it better than I can, I shouldn't invent the wooden wheel again.

I'm also interested in sharing lemur patches and exchanging ideas...

Best,- Hjalte

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[Atte]

Martin Vognsen wrote:

> ps - nice to see a local supercollidist, btw...

I sandhed, ja :-)

Are there any networks, groups, gatherings for sc users in DK? I'd be
interested in some recurring informal meeting...

--
Atte

http://atte.dk    http://modlys.dk

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[Axel Balley-3]

Hi Hjalte,

You can setup a script on the Lemur that will be triggered by incoming OSC messages, and will show/hide the object passed as a string argument. The second argument will set the show/hide flag.

Something like : 

--

show_my_object() - On OSC - /show_my_object

// find object based on its string path

decl obj = findobject(OSC_ARGS[0]);

show(obj, OSC_ARGS[1]);

--

You can then show/hide any object from SC by sending these OSC messages : 

['/show_my_object', '/Container/Fader', '1']

['/show_my_object', '/Container/Pads', '0']

There are also unsupported functions for object creation/deletion. You can use the same trick to trigger them from OSC.

They may or may not disappear in future updates, as they are quite dangerous to use (e.g deleting an object whose script is currently running).

I'm sending you the jzlib offlist.

Cheers,

Axel

Le 23 avr. 09 à 02:09, Hjalte Møller a écrit :

Hi all,

Thanks for the replies :)

I also find communication with lemur quite simple in sc, but still feel it could be easier. I thought writing classes would be hard, but my new LemurObject class is comming along nicely, and I've made an automatic lemur gui extention for the Patch class, which is really nice to :) It works like the patch, except the interface shows up on the lemur in a popup window...

LemurObject is almost self explanatory. It just takes a path to the object on the lemur,
and then all can be accesed thru methods.

I will share when I'm finished...

Axel - can we please have a hide attribute to the lemur objects ?
- and scriptable objects :P
i.e. a message to lemur
[ 'newObject', 'Fader', 'Interface', '/Container/Fader', 0, 10, 100, 100 ]
the four last items being rect...
and a delete also, which could work as an attribute, or just
[ 'delete', '/Container/Fader' ]

Hej Martin,

Hvor I danmark kommer du fra ?

Best, Hjalte

2009/4/22 Martin Vognsen <gnormaninvest@...>

Hej Hjalte

If it's just about talking to the Lemur:

I may be mistaking, but I seem to remember that the class they provide is a bit  buggy (?)
I suppose it provides a slight convenience of managing NetAddr (not much to manage, really) and OSCresponderNode's.

But actually I think it's already so straight forward to communicate with the Lemur without any additional classes that I just didn't bother installing it. The combo works extremely well out of the box. I try to do as much of the scripting as possible in SC rather than on the Lemur, you really appreciate how smooth and stable SC is when you've been scripting the Lemur for a while, plus you quickly run out of memory on the Lemur. I guess it's also a question of temper, but I like to just connect the thing and start building, working in patches rather than class based systems, so that I can constantly change code without having to recompile. (Though classes can be convenient for sure, where would we be without them!)

Martin

ps - nice to see a local supercollidist, btw...


Den 22/04/2009 kl. 14.04 skrev Hjalte Møller:

Hi,

I'm quite a happe Lemur user, and I'm looking for Classes for the lemur ?

Has anyone know if anything is written already ?

I'm about to start writing my own, but I'm quite new to writing classes.
So if somebody already did it better than I can, I shouldn't invent the wooden wheel again.

I'm also interested in sharing lemur patches and exchanging ideas...

Best,- Hjalte

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[Martin Vognsen-4]

Nice - the more Lemur scripting can be done from SC, the better, it seems. It's great to have a scriptable OSC controller at all, but of course Lemur scripting will never be a match to SC. Of course there is always a balance between what is more convenient and what is more efficient in terms of performance, but it seems to me Lemur memory is often the bottleneck.

I really appreciate that people will spend time writing more general tools, I tend to just think about the music I'm working on. So don't mind my anti-class / anti-gui dogmatism :-)

Greetings from Vesterbro

Martin

Den 23/04/2009 kl. 2.09 skrev Hjalte Møller:

Hi all,

Thanks for the replies :)

I also find communication with lemur quite simple in sc, but still feel it could be easier. I thought writing classes would be hard, but my new LemurObject class is comming along nicely, and I've made an automatic lemur gui extention for the Patch class, which is really nice to :) It works like the patch, except the interface shows up on the lemur in a popup window...

LemurObject is almost self explanatory. It just takes a path to the object on the lemur,
and then all can be accesed thru methods.

I will share when I'm finished...

Axel - can we please have a hide attribute to the lemur objects ?
- and scriptable objects :P
i.e. a message to lemur
[ 'newObject', 'Fader', 'Interface', '/Container/Fader', 0, 10, 100, 100 ]
the four last items being rect...
and a delete also, which could work as an attribute, or just
[ 'delete', '/Container/Fader' ]

Hej Martin,

Hvor I danmark kommer du fra ?

Best, Hjalte

2009/4/22 Martin Vognsen <gnormaninvest@...>

Hej Hjalte

If it's just about talking to the Lemur:

I may be mistaking, but I seem to remember that the class they provide is a bit  buggy (?)
I suppose it provides a slight convenience of managing NetAddr (not much to manage, really) and OSCresponderNode's.

But actually I think it's already so straight forward to communicate with the Lemur without any additional classes that I just didn't bother installing it. The combo works extremely well out of the box. I try to do as much of the scripting as possible in SC rather than on the Lemur, you really appreciate how smooth and stable SC is when you've been scripting the Lemur for a while, plus you quickly run out of memory on the Lemur. I guess it's also a question of temper, but I like to just connect the thing and start building, working in patches rather than class based systems, so that I can constantly change code without having to recompile. (Though classes can be convenient for sure, where would we be without them!)

Martin

ps - nice to see a local supercollidist, btw...


Den 22/04/2009 kl. 14.04 skrev Hjalte Møller:

Hi,

I'm quite a happe Lemur user, and I'm looking for Classes for the lemur ?

Has anyone know if anything is written already ?

I'm about to start writing my own, but I'm quite new to writing classes.
So if somebody already did it better than I can, I shouldn't invent the wooden wheel again.

I'm also interested in sharing lemur patches and exchanging ideas...

Best,- Hjalte

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