Jini.org

[Jim Hurley-4]

This is just a heads up that we have to decide if we want to
keep Jini.org around.  The site has been around since the
inception of the Jini Community in 1999, and has gone through
a number of transformations over the years.  It's current state
is that it is wiki-based and hosted by Dreamhost.  We have an
outstanding bill for $239.40 that is due by July 8th to keep
the site going.

In the past Sun has solely funded the site -- I'm assuming that's
not going to be the case going forward.

We can either:
  - try to consolidate and move the content to Apache River,
  - figure out how to fund the Jini.org site, or
  - just let the site (and content) expire.

Thoughts?

thanks -Jim

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[Alexander R. Krapf]

What are the cost details on the account? Codemesh would definitely chip in if
people thought there was a benefit to keeping it alive.  I could see different
opinions on it though.  Maybe it would be better to consolidate under the River
name.  Maybe keeping Jini.org up is a temporary fix while content is migrated
over.

Alex


 >>  This is just a heads up that we have to decide if we want to
 >>  keep Jini.org around.  The site has been around since the
 >>  inception of the Jini Community in 1999, and has gone through
 >>  a number of transformations over the years.  It's current state
 >>  is that it is wiki-based and hosted by Dreamhost.  We have an
 >>  outstanding bill for $239.40 that is due by July 8th to keep
 >>  the site going.

 >>  In the past Sun has solely funded the site -- I'm assuming that's
 >>  not going to be the case going forward.

 >>  We can either:
 >>    - try to consolidate and move the content to Apache River,
 >>    - figure out how to fund the Jini.org site, or
 >>    - just let the site (and content) expire.

 >>  Thoughts?

 >>  thanks -Jim

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[Brian Pontarelli]

I'm a big fan of consolidation. It helps make things easier to get into.

-bp


On Jun 25, 2009, at 6:36 AM, Alexander R. Krapf wrote:

> What are the cost details on the account? Codemesh would definitely  
> chip in if
> people thought there was a benefit to keeping it alive.  I could see  
> different
> opinions on it though.  Maybe it would be better to consolidate  
> under the River
> name.  Maybe keeping Jini.org up is a temporary fix while content is  
> migrated
> over.
>
> Alex
>
>
>>> This is just a heads up that we have to decide if we want to
>>> keep Jini.org around.  The site has been around since the
>>> inception of the Jini Community in 1999, and has gone through
>>> a number of transformations over the years.  It's current state
>>> is that it is wiki-based and hosted by Dreamhost.  We have an
>>> outstanding bill for $239.40 that is due by July 8th to keep
>>> the site going.
>
>>> In the past Sun has solely funded the site -- I'm assuming that's
>>> not going to be the case going forward.
>
>>> We can either:
>>>   - try to consolidate and move the content to Apache River,
>>>   - figure out how to fund the Jini.org site, or
>>>   - just let the site (and content) expire.
>
>>> Thoughts?
>
>>> thanks -Jim
>
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[Patrick Wright]

It may be obvious, but--the most important thing in my mind is that
the jini.org domain name be retained. It can point to the Apache River
servers. Old links still in search engines will then at least hit a
live server (and perhaps we can set up the webserver to redirect to a
page explaining the name change).

If we can host the wiki content somewhere we could scrape it for
goodies afterwards. My recollection is that the content on jini.org
was fairly mixed, with quite a bit being outdated. I haven't looked in
awhile, since last year at least, though. I would volunteer to help
look through the wiki for usable content. What software is hosting the
wiki itself?

If we do keep the domain name, then we just have to figure out how to
fund the domain-name registration, for which I'm happy to contribute
(for the time being, anyhow!).


Patrick

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[Jeff Ramsdale-2]

jini.org is currently hosted at Dreamhost and is run on Mediawiki.

I'm open to whatever the community decides. It's been frustrating combating the spammers while trying to keep jini.org as open as possible (per wiki culture). I'd be more defensive of keeping the site if the community had taken greater ownership of it, but a lot of the content is stuff I copied from the previous site (like the Jini specs and all the content from Jini Community Meetings). I'd really hate to lose the JCM stuff, in particular.

-jeff

On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Rick Innis <rick@...> wrote:

This is just a heads up that we have to decide if we want to
keep Jini.org around.  The site has been around since the
inception of the Jini Community in 1999, and has gone through
a number of transformations over the years.  It's current state
is that it is wiki-based and hosted by Dreamhost.

I use Dreamhost for my own hosting, and I'd be happy to add the jini.org site to that.

We have an outstanding bill for $239.40 that is due by July 8th to keep
the site going.

I' also happy to chip in towards this.

We can either:
- try to consolidate and move the content to Apache River,
- figure out how to fund the Jini.org site, or
- just let the site (and content) expire.

I agree with Patrick that the domain name should be kept up. I think migrating the useful content to the Apache River project is probably a good idea, and eventually redirecting jini.org there - it makes it clear that there's one source for the project.

R.

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